Teach your dog to down - Troubleshooting
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2024
- This video is for those of you struggling to teach your dog to initially get into the down position so you can start training a down stay.
Tricks for teaching a down when simply luring it doesn’t work:
1 Lure the dog under something like your leg or a chair to get the behavior started. (I learned this trick about 15 years ago from dog trainer Kate Palese. Not sure who came up with this clever trick.)
2 Use non-slip flooring. You can also try using his dog bed or a soft couch.
3 When you see your dog lay down during everyday life, mark it by saying “yes!” or simply act very happy and go and get him a treat. This will cause the behavior to increase and make your dog more likely to offer the down in training sessions.
Some reasons dogs might not want to lay down:
1 They don’t understand what you want
2 The reinforcement is not of high enough value in that situation
3 The flooring is slippery or hard
4 The dog is worried about something in the environment
5 The dog could have an injury or pain in his body that you are unaware of
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OMG YES!! Finally something that actually taught my pup down. The leg bridge!!! Thank you🙏🏻
Yay!!!!
Your channel and expertise just saved me $700 for 3 , 1 hr sessions with a local dog trainer. These are all the things we want her to learn and you make it so easy to do it yourself. Thank you SO much.
well I am glad you had success! Well done!
I've been training dogs for over 9 years and I've never thought of this and I feel stupid lol. This is excellent. Thank you so much!!
Well I probably never would have either accept for someone showing me
Same thanks for the tip.
I've been going bonkers trying to get Juno to do a "down" with a lure, and we were both getting frustrated. Three passes under my leg and she got it!!! Thank you so much!
Thanks, this is wonderful. I start to teach my 3 months old puppy to lay down with very good progress. I don’t need to force/ push her down and worry she gets hurt. This is a wonderful tip and it works!!
Just wanted to say this video was very helpful. I’ve been trying for months to get my puppy to lay down with little success. After watching your video, I was able to get my dog to lay down on command within 30 minutes. Thank you so so much!!!
oh yay!
You’re a lifesaver! My 3m old puppy was just NOT getting down and with this he figured it out in one session!! 🎉🎉
OMG i was having soooo much trouble getting my puppy to learn laydown! I tried this and in like 20 minutes he was getting it down!! youre the best!!
This video was so helpful! Our dog just didn’t understand what we were asking when doing the luring from sit. The chair helped make things much clearer and we were able to quickly fade it out!
Woow! This was super useful! A lot of videos recommend starting in a sitting position and then lower the treat so the dog reachs it on the floor level but my dog was simply lowing his head and not the whole body. After I tried the leg thing it took no longer than 15 minutes for my dog to learn laying down!
Well done!
You channel has really helped me with a dog I just got from a shelter. Thank you!
Thank you for your tutorial and the description. I find this very helpful with 'problem' dogs. Wonderful that you share your experiences with us.
Thank you so much for making this video. Been trying this on and off for about a month and a half. My pup kept jumping over my legs and not really focusing when we were practicing down. Today I knew she was tired so I gave it another go, and we even were able to transition out from under my legs!! I am SOOO happy!! And my dog is relieved to finally know what I was asking for that whole time!
That was INSTANTLY helpful!!! Thank you!!
So glad!
thank you so much!!! my dog was NOT getting down at all but this just helped me teach him!!! yay!!
Amazing! Really struggling with this and this tip was so helpful! My dog figured it out like this super quickly
Omg this is gold! Thankyou!!!
This is how I trained a hard one. Thanks
You are super creative! Thanks for your videos.
Thanks! These tricks I learned about 15 years ago helping another trainer Kate Palese with her puppy class. I do add the step of having the dog go under something a little taller first before something lower to make sure they are learning in small approximations.
Great idea!
I had so much trouble training my cane Corso to lay down. whenever I tried luring she would lean down to get it, she just could not figure out what I wanted her to do
I eventually trained her with something similar to the method you mentioned at the end. I’d watched some videos on shaping behavior so I put her on a leash, sat down and waited till she got bored enough to lay down.
Treat, then throw a treat to get her back up, rinse and repeat until it clicked that I wanted her to lie down
Thank you so much, my pinscher is smart in her own ways...this was a really hard thing for her
Thank you for the "last resort" option!! My puppy has so many commands memorized but this one just doesn't get through. Another trainer recommended using my leg and on my own Ive tried furniture but he just seems to connect the part about being under something. I'm gonna try method 3 this week!
You're awesome! I'm finding your videos extremely helpful; thank you!
You are welcome!
Wish I knew about this trick a year ago...
I had the biggest troubles of all signals with the down cue because my dog wouldnt lie down anywhere if the surface was either too hard or too dirty. She is a hairless dog so it makes sense in a way that she would find a hard floor less inviting to lie down on. She always just reached down with her long neck whenever I tried to lure her into a down position.
So what I did was lure her up on a cushioned chair or seat and lower a treat in front of her down between her front legs, slightly below the surface she was standing on, so she couldn't reach the food by just lowering her neck down. It took longer than anything else to get her to lie down on cue but now we're finally there. Using small pieces of cooked chicken breast helped a lot in this.
Love your tips..gonna try this next but without a clicker (my pup is frightened by the clicker even when it's in a pocket)
Another great, informative video. Thank you for all you share. I am dog sitting for a family. The dog is a mixed breed but looks like Border Collie. She is obviously very smart and is about 1-1/2 years old, I think. She does not like water/bath and the vet said that was OK. However, she does not like being brushed either. She sheds a ridiculous amount of hair and you can see dander on her coat when you play with her and "mess up" her hair. With their permission, I bought some finely shredded cheddar cheese. I have a slicker brush. I have been doing a couple of sessions a day for about five minutes each, where if she touches the brush with her nose (not foot) she gets ONE shred of cheese (if the pieces are not "whole" I will give her a couple of shreds to equal one good one). She is doing very well with that. I sometimes act like I am going to brush her foot and she jumps back. Do you have a video of what to do to get her to the next stage? I am keeping the sessions short and ending with her getting praised for doing a good job. There is NO scolding or harsh tones used, EVER, with this exercise. The amount of cheese per session ends up being about a teaspoon or two. (I don't have scales here to weigh it.) I believe she will feel better with that shedding hair being off her, as well as the extra dander being gone. What advice do you have for me please? Oh! She gets cheese ONLY with this exercise and ONLY when she touches the brush with her nose. NO CHEATING! Thank you. I am going to send a copy of this to Pam (Dog Academy).
I suggest using Kathy sdaos method of touching her where she is comfortable then moving your hand slowly to the area she isn't. So place your hand on her shoulder and stroke down her leg with some pressure as not to tickle her, in approximations until you can stroke all the way to her feet. Dont keep making it harder and harder. If you make it all the way down to her foot, then the next trial make it much easier, say just a few inches from the shoulder. SO your dog doesnt find the training getting harder and harder.
You could also try Chirag Patels Bucket game
Great video
Thank you
Great tips!!
Thanks, this was very helpful!
Thank you for these. I’ve had a hard time trying to train my mini dachshund the down command. I’m gonna look and see if you have other videos on troubleshooting with “stay” because she’s also very quick and not learning stay very well. She knows sit lol. But with them short legs and long body, down with a lure is not working. She either backs up or something. So thank you for this video
I'm going to have to try this. I never thought about using my legs. I just started training my pup to lie down from the sip position and she just won't do it.
You can first teach down from a stand, use non slip floor or a dog bed and your legs, and then after youve had a bit of success you can try down from a sit which might be harder for some dogs
Wow this is super helpful in going to try it tomorrow. I have two Aussie puppies and one got down super fast and the other try’s to dig at my hand when I put my hand tithe ground 🤣thank you
good luck!
Awesome, love your breed! I got a obedient Amstaff & a lazy Staffy 😂
A great video, thank you!
Great tips 👏🏻🐾♥️😊
Brava brava...bel lavoro...!👍
I’ve had great results rewarding a down when it occurs naturally! I can’t seem to effectively communicate to my foster pal what I want her to do when luring, but she definitely offers it much more since I started marking and rewarding it. How would you suggest adding a verbal cue to this once you’re getting fairly consistent downs offered?
I love the sound of your clicker :)
Awesome vid! What do you typically recommend for 8-12 week old puppies for treats (for training). Mine has a pretty sensitive stomach. Thanks!
I would use very soft treats, that are easily breakable and see how your puppy responds. You can also use chicken turkey, or pastrami, no seasoning. If your puppy has a sensitive stomach you can introduce one new treat at a time, and then see how he responds. if his poo is good and he is very responsive thats a good sign. it might be best to avoid dairy products that cause diarrhea in sensitive pups.
I would try boiled chicken at first. Make sure not to over feed when using treats, cause that can cause loose stool as well. So reduce the amount of food. You can also take some of the food for a meal and use that - if your puppy finds it reinforcing. You can also mix some of the kibble (if you use kibble) with smelly treats in a baggie so that you can use some of his food as treats.
@@kikopup Thanks so much! Big help!
Great information...but...how many times did she say "lay" or "laying" instead of "lie" or "lying". I cringed each time it was said! 😞
Yeah I don’t know what happened that I learned it that way as a child and so I forget it’s incorrect. Thanks for the reminder 🙏
Very nice 😊 I'm teaching shapes game for my dog. Do you have any video about? Thanks.
shaping? Or discrimination of shapes?
Dog Training by Kikopup discrimination, sorry my English is very bad😟
I adopted a feral terrier mix and I can’t get him house broken - he marks a lot. Anyone with feral dog experience? I also would like him to learn to walk on a leash but it’s been a disaster.
Thank you for your videos they are helpful
Id keep him in a large pen when you dont watch him, where everywhere is a toilet- pads everywhere, then over time shrink the area to the corner away from the front door of the pen or where he walks towards to see you. Then take him outside like you would housetrain a new puppy, frequently and reinforce him for going outside. Id add a cue to him going to the bathroom too.
With male dogs I see some owners using a wide band that goes around the lower abdomen and keeps the penis close to the body. These can be purchased at pet stores. The idea is it makes the dog pee on itself and he doesn't like that. Also it stops him from getting urine onto furniture etc so there will not be a urine smell prompting him to go in the same spot again. Certainly something to be used with caution, but for difficult indoor marking behavior it might be more humane (and effective) than for example crating.
Ideally the dog should get used to not peeing inside and being rewarded for doing it outside so you don't have to use the belly band forever.
@@emmamemma4162 be careful with this one. While some dogs don't like it, others don't mind it. I have seen some horrible instances of dog diaper rash as a result of improper use.
That's a good point, @@alexandrawest1344!
By the way, West was my maiden name :)
I hope you see this comment.
I can lure my dog (Aussie puppy 16 weeks today) to a nice down. I've added a verbal cue to it. But if I don't lure, he just sits and looks at me.
What am I doing wrong?
Thanks for your great videos!
Most likely you are doing nothing wrong but that it will just take more time and repetition to fade your hand signal. You can do this by doing a very blatant gesture and then making the gesture from higher up in small approximations.
@@kikopup Thank you! I will keep at it. :)
@@kikopup Here's another great tip I got from the good folks over at Simpawtico:
"So you probably need an intermediate step. We have one called "The bait and switch." Have food in both hands. Lure with one, but reward with the other consistently. You'll see your dog start to focus on the other hand, and then you can remove the lure. Once they learn "I don't have to see food to get it," you'll move quickly through the remaining steps. Good luck!"
My puppy knows down but he continues to lean on one hip or the other (lazy!??). Do you have any troubleshooting tips to correct this behavior?
most people dont notice this. yes, its smart to teach a settle where the dog relaxes like that on a different cue and a lion down where the dog lays down with each back leg tucked nicely, so that the dog is building each side of the body equally. Use a non slip surface and practice luring the dog from a stand to a down to a stand and from a sit to a down to a sit. its normal for puppies to do this and its just a matter of a few weeks of appropriate exercise
WOAH my puppy girl will NOT lay down when I life her down with a treat, she just puts her head down and down until it is in between her own legs. I will try this technique
This is a great idea to teach down and also to use for therapy for dogs who have to do various movements to get strong, I have a lazy dog but loves food so going under and walking and crawling will be good. Love the tips on the environment and floor surface especially for rescues, there is so much we don't know about them and they need time. Blessings.
So far my pup will only do this if i have a treat and I physically touch the ground. She will not do it with just the command.
I’m loving these videos, but my bull terrier puppy is still struggling with down. The treat lure from sit didn’t work but I’ll keep trying this method
Some times dogs really struggle to figure out this one. Don't give up! You can also every time you see your puppy lay down in real life mark and reinforce. You can also try on a surface that is really cushy like a bed with a comforter or dog bed.
@@kikopup I will definitely keep trying! He started going under my leg today and I was so proud! I've shared your channel with my sister who has my puppies brother. Thank you kikopup 🖤
Oh good!
Do you recommend using brief play time as a way to reinforce?
Great upload as always :)
I would but I would not use play for behaviors you want your dog to be calm during.
@@kikopupThank you!
You can, but you have to teach the rules of playtime so you can regain control. I’d recommend looking at Leerburg’s videos to gain a good understanding of this
How do you reset the dog after down? What’s the word
I use “free” and feed a treat for coming to me.
This is sooooo helpful! Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you. After almost a year of on off trying and giving up, in 20 mins this tip had my dog lying down xx
My dog would just go under, grab the treat and back out!😂 How to keep her from popping back up immediately after going down?
What do I do if my dog won't go down, and won't go under my leg or table or anything 🙃
Thank you..I'll try it.
Any recommendations what to do when a dog seeks you out, sits on your lap, and then growls at you when you try to move/get up? Or when you try to push the dog away? The same dog is perfectly comfortable letting me pinch her cheeks, play with her lips, pretty much do anything with her; she just loves the attention. But apparently I'm not allowed to stop cuddling until she says so...
I suggest teaching the cue "Free" to mean jump off furniture or your lap- first training it as a release from a stay. Train for 2 weeks a short 1 min lesson a day, then use the cue when she is sitting on your lap for a short period of time, then for a longer period where she is more comfortable. Usually the longer the dog sits, or the more tired the dog is the more likely they will be annoyed if you move (the same with people lol) Here is a tutorial on training what you need- th-cam.com/video/hwEkjJBU2e0/w-d-xo.html
Thanks Emily. Such a great way of helping my dog with Down.
Oh yay! I am glad it helped!
Great idea !!👍👍
Actually its a trick I learned as a beginning dog trainer from Kate Palese like 17 years ago when I was helping her with her puppy class
I have a corgi and it's always been hard to go from sit to lay down for her. This just made her training a lot easier thank YOU