Yep, definitely needs the tank and plastic goodies. If you can find some similar colored plastic to extend the front bottom of the tank, it would probably look even better. Plus that expanse of sheet metal on the back of the battery cover would probably be ideal to mount the controller and keep your power leads fairly short! This is turning out really nice Chris! Electro-Suzi lives!😂👍👍
I love what you have done. Mad respect. I wish my surron ultra had at least a low-hi gear. If only someone would make a planetary 2 speed to replace the jackshaft along with a solenoid shift. This would allow me to run a large rear sprocket for gear reduction and shift to a high gear when the motor runs out of RPM.
I’ve never been a fan of all the chains on everything but this build has made me me me take a second look. You can build anything! Just because others have done the same thing doesn’t mean you can’t do it better. Keep up the work
Def the shroud. Although your work is exemplary and should be displayed, the shock value of a stock looking machine will be much greater. This is an awesome, inspiring build.
Keep in mind, your using a 2 stroke transmission which is a very close ratio because 2 strokes don't have torque. You would have been better off using wide ratio transmission. The electric motor had all the torque. You could use the wider ratio and use more of the gears.
I’d do a bolt on piece across the top of the battery box connecting the upper frame rails right at the upper bend and a set of tubes coming directly from the rear shock upper mount to as high on the new frame rails as practicable.
Have you thought about putting 2 smaller battery packs and just mounting them on the sides of the frame or even just another pack the same size as a reserve mounted on the other side?
Hello, big fan of your builds , I'm not sure of the terminology on electric bike motors , but on RC's I always go into the ESC programming and turn the "punch" level down to about 50% ( it acts like a soft start-up , ) it also makes it ( the RC ) way more controllable and puts way less stress on the drive train when you punch it , it's not as quick to respond , but I'll take that over replacing broken parts any day . P.S. If you mention this comment on air , my name is Scott not Joe .
Get those 1/4 of circle chamfering bits to your handmill. Some of them have a bearing at the tip that you can lean on and just mill off the chamfer edge of sheet. Those are widely used to make alu products for more appealing and nicer to humans as the edge is smooth and round.
I like it with the plastics on, I have stealth bomber clone and I added CRF50 shrouds. it works well to have something plastic to squeeze your legs onto when hitting whoops.
I think it'd look better without any of the plastic at all, and just make custom sheet metal panels for it. But that's just me. Edit: And I'd definitely go without the diamond plate. Make the battery box with flat panels facing outward.
I really love your channel and admire your garage! I took some welding classes and have been making custom frames just like you! I would love to for you to make a video on your shop, tools n hardware you use/have and use regularly for welding. where you store your bare metals. And possibly hacks that make custom fab work easier. Thanks again and great channel!!
I like both versions. An I would change them depending on what kind of riding I was doin. If I was doin more wet or muddy riding I would put the gas tank an gas tank flares plastics on because there goin to block a lil more stuff from flying up in ur face then without them.👍
This is gonna be the most practical electric bike ever once you get the gearing just right. I vote keep the plastics. The charge port idea in the cap from @jacobthebluesman is a great one!
Keep the plastics. It’s cool when it looks like something and then isn’t. I would be geeking out on the trail if you pulled up on that and I had to do a double take.
Great content really look forward to each post - must be so much work to provide this so thank you - and I love that's its just garage engineering rather than flashy new workshop and new tools. Also I like it better without the plastics - keep the radiator plastics but make a custom shroud to replace the gas tank?
Your doing a beautiful job man. If I'm not mistaken I do believe batteries under a heavy load like that need cooling or they will explode. Especially while charging.
I like it both ways also, but I think you should make some diamond plate tank panels to give the same shroud look while keeping it fully custom and eye-grabbing
There should be a setting in the controller taking care of the rpm. If you just switched from hub motor to mid drive motor on the same controller, then you have to adjust the parameters to suit that. Also a lot of controllers supports flux weakening aloowing the motor to take even more rpms.
More Volts=more motor RPMs. You can probably add a bit more flux weakening, but that won't get you much more. It honestly needs a better battery and controller to make that motor really sing. Plus a higher voltage for more RPMs. something like a 40s10p of molicel p42A which would get you a 144v battery, 450A continuous discharge and 42Ah of capacity
Good thing about steel frames is that they rarely snap or if they do you really missed warning signs, usually they will bend and the welds will develop cracks if there's not enough gussets before snapping from repeated abuse.
You should be able to get more rpm's by adding some Field Weakening in the controller settings. That way you can get higher top speeds with no loss of low end power.
For next possible project, could you build a kayak that has the back portion cut off and build a mount for an outboard motor make an electric outboard and put it on the back and test it has been one of my dreams to try this, it would mean the world
Keep the plastics and put a charge port in the fuel cap 😊
Agreed.
Agreed
Agreed
Yup, this.
just what i was thinking
Shroud and full plastics are definitely much better
Full plastic set most definitely. Looks professionally done with everything on it.
Your the guy they needed for all the building shows that died out because they all became ads only no builds ❤your are tv (TH-cam) gold 🎉🎉🎉
Jesus. Try to keep your shorts on pal
I like it with the plastic !!!!
Sleeper electric ⚡
Definitely looks better WITH the tank and shroud.
Yep, definitely needs the tank and plastic goodies. If you can find some similar colored plastic to extend the front bottom of the tank, it would probably look even better. Plus that expanse of sheet metal on the back of the battery cover would probably be ideal to mount the controller and keep your power leads fairly short! This is turning out really nice Chris! Electro-Suzi lives!😂👍👍
I like both looks, but the plastics concealing the electronics speaks volumes about the build quality. And that’s a good look.
With the shroud looks alot better to me
Would have been great to integrate the battery box into the design of the frame. Make it a structural piece, and functional.
Yup
I love what you have done. Mad respect. I wish my surron ultra had at least a low-hi gear. If only someone would make a planetary 2 speed to replace the jackshaft along with a solenoid shift. This would allow me to run a large rear sprocket for gear reduction and shift to a high gear when the motor runs out of RPM.
I’ve never been a fan of all the chains on everything but this build has made me me me take a second look. You can build anything! Just because others have done the same thing doesn’t mean you can’t do it better. Keep up the work
Def the shroud. Although your work is exemplary and should be displayed, the shock value of a stock looking machine will be much greater. This is an awesome, inspiring build.
Full plastics looks good and if it’s leaking oil it’s just letting you know it still has some
I like it with the plastic And Gas tank
Keep in mind, your using a 2 stroke transmission which is a very close ratio because 2 strokes don't have torque. You would have been better off using wide ratio transmission. The electric motor had all the torque. You could use the wider ratio and use more of the gears.
I like the plastics as it hides the battery box and closes up the big gaps.
Watched a kid a few years back that built a functional mini tank. I feel like your rendition of that would be epic!
I’d do a bolt on piece across the top of the battery box connecting the upper frame rails right at the upper bend and a set of tubes coming directly from the rear shock upper mount to as high on the new frame rails as practicable.
Have you thought about putting 2 smaller battery packs and just mounting them on the sides of the frame or even just another pack the same size as a reserve mounted on the other side?
Hello, big fan of your builds , I'm not sure of the terminology on electric bike motors , but on RC's I always go into the ESC programming and turn the "punch" level down to about 50% ( it acts like a soft start-up , ) it also makes it ( the RC ) way more controllable and puts way less stress on the drive train when you punch it , it's not as quick to respond , but I'll take that over replacing broken parts any day .
P.S.
If you mention this comment on air , my name is Scott not Joe .
Get those 1/4 of circle chamfering bits to your handmill. Some of them have a bearing at the tip that you can lean on and just mill off the chamfer edge of sheet. Those are widely used to make alu products for more appealing and nicer to humans as the edge is smooth and round.
Ones with two flutes for wood work fine with alu.
See the video ”workpieces in the aluminium material do the chamfering”. There are others too, just search.
You always got the dopest background music
Yes this project is back! I can't wait to see this thing rip
I like it with the plastics on, I have stealth bomber clone and I added CRF50 shrouds. it works well to have something plastic to squeeze your legs onto when hitting whoops.
I think it'd look better without any of the plastic at all, and just make custom sheet metal panels for it. But that's just me. Edit: And I'd definitely go without the diamond plate. Make the battery box with flat panels facing outward.
Dang that thing weighs a ton, I want to see a rider ride this cool as hell..
Shrouds and gas tank might help out with cooling forcing air around the battery box down to the motor
Tank an shrouds is definitely better looking. But batter alone looks presentable
I really love your channel and admire your garage! I took some welding classes and have been making custom frames just like you! I would love to for you to make a video on your shop, tools n hardware you use/have and use regularly for welding. where you store your bare metals. And possibly hacks that make custom fab work easier. Thanks again and great channel!!
I vote keep the tank and shrouds! Looks awesome. Also you might want to loosen the chain. It looks tight
With or w/o gas tank look great. If you go w/o gas tank paint the battery box and it would look great!
Looking good 👍 ludicrous mode coming up 😮☮️
The airbox would be a great spot for the controller 👌
Your knees will want those shrouds on trust me.
Personally i do without plastic. Could paint it black or try to match the other colors.and for the frame Yes thats strong enough. Good job so far
All the plastics look the best in my opinion
I like both versions. An I would change them depending on what kind of riding I was doin. If I was doin more wet or muddy riding I would put the gas tank an gas tank flares plastics on because there goin to block a lil more stuff from flying up in ur face then without them.👍
Rally interested what it felt like in low range on the kart.
Can't wait to see how it works with improved gearing.
It definitely looks better with the plastics on
I like the plastics on looks like a sleeper
Definitely looks better with the tank and plastics. electric sleeper starts better convos
Keep it stripped, it's your best looking bike, yet. Like the gears, too.
It defo looks better with the plastics bro keep them on
Supermoto path would look really cool. You could use it more day to day.
Keep the tank and plastic on that looks better and you have done a amazing job with this bike amazing.
I'd definitely test ride before changing sprockets, it might feel fast enough when your riding, especially given the torque of an electric motor.
so glad I came across this channel
Thank you for all the hard work in making these excellent videos.
This is gonna be the most practical electric bike ever once you get the gearing just right. I vote keep the plastics. The charge port idea in the cap from @jacobthebluesman is a great one!
I liked the blooper reel you did at the end of your previous video. You should do those more!
Back at it again with the rather and the B welding
I think keeping the plastics will make it more comfortable to ride.
Love all the plastics, sleeper look.
Thanks for filming again Chris. 😁👍🏼
Keep the plastics. It’s cool when it looks like something and then isn’t. I would be geeking out on the trail if you pulled up on that and I had to do a double take.
If you decide to use the gas tank you should put the on/off switch under that gas cap! I think that would be kinda cool!!
Great content really look forward to each post - must be so much work to provide this so thank you - and I love that's its just garage engineering rather than flashy new workshop and new tools. Also I like it better without the plastics - keep the radiator plastics but make a custom shroud to replace the gas tank?
Your doing a beautiful job man. If I'm not mistaken I do believe batteries under a heavy load like that need cooling or they will explode. Especially while charging.
Awesomeness dripping awesomeness all over the place . Cool
Looks best with the plastics, little bit of a sleeper look. Epically once you figure out the gearing.
Find a round meter to fit in the gas tank neck for the battery level! Would be funny to open the gas cap to see the battery level. 🤣
Well done . It turned out really well . Would like to see the upper part of the frame getting more reinforcement and triangulating the frame .
I like it both ways also, but I think you should make some diamond plate tank panels to give the same shroud look while keeping it fully custom and eye-grabbing
I would definitely keep the plastics!!
The stealth effect is fantastic
Leave the tank you made it look so sick people will be amazed on your work
Full plastic looks way better!
I like this rather be welding channel
There should be a setting in the controller taking care of the rpm. If you just switched from hub motor to mid drive motor on the same controller, then you have to adjust the parameters to suit that. Also a lot of controllers supports flux weakening aloowing the motor to take even more rpms.
Keep the tank, your frame is very strong
Looks better with plastics and tank. Will surely want a 15 tooth front sprocket at least
thank for building this, its awesome i hope to this to my 1978 honda 250s when ever the motor goes.
More Volts=more motor RPMs. You can probably add a bit more flux weakening, but that won't get you much more. It honestly needs a better battery and controller to make that motor really sing. Plus a higher voltage for more RPMs. something like a 40s10p of molicel p42A which would get you a 144v battery, 450A continuous discharge and 42Ah of capacity
It will be a torque monster in first and second gear
Could of used the airbox to hide the battery
Or have 2 smaller batteries, half in the airbox and the other under the tank
Full plastics definitely 👍🏽👍🏽
Good thing about steel frames is that they rarely snap or if they do you really missed warning signs, usually they will bend and the welds will develop cracks if there's not enough gussets before snapping from repeated abuse.
You should be able to get more rpm's by adding some Field Weakening in the controller settings. That way you can get higher top speeds with no loss of low end power.
I personally like it with not all of the plastics
Definitely with the plastics it looks cleaner. Still a great bike tho.
That would be cool in a 4 wheeler too so cool 😁
Give up sleeping and put out more videos! Cheers
Definitely with all of the plastics!
Your killing it bud damn you are the tip of the spear keep up the good work
4:15 this is crazy how much the chassis flexed when you cut the top bar… I hope you made some measurements
Definitely keep the tank and the plastics.
I vote keep all the original plastics and tank so it looks like a real dirt bike
11t:32t is how my RC's were always geared. Could be a sweet spot for electric motors 👀
but i know your trying to keep the weight distribution as even as possible, this is by far my favorite project of yours
For next possible project, could you build a kayak that has the back portion cut off and build a mount for an outboard motor make an electric outboard and put it on the back and test it has been one of my dreams to try this, it would mean the world
Remove the fill cap portion radius to top of seat ,so you have side plastics and you show the metal fab on top part
Keep tank and all the plastics 🔥
Should be able to add a ramping curve to that esc. Should smooth it out. Awesome build bud.
MAN !!!! what a build i love it
Definitely keep the tank and shrouds.
Quedo hermosa hermano. paso siguiente hacer planos y empezar a producir en masa.
With the tank and plastics for sure
Great build, keep tank and plastics. Make sure you have air for batteries. 😊😊😊😊
i love this project! your super talented brother