Graduates Leaning Towards Trade Schools Over Traditional Colleges
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ต.ค. 2024
- For some recent high school graduates, the path to a well-paying job doesn’t necessarily include a four-year college experience. NBC’s Stephanie Ruhle reports in this week’s Sunday Spotlight.
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College is not meant for everyone. It's okay to go on a different path than others
These are smart kids. My plumber, electrician, etc make more than I do. Plus you are not stuck behind a desk all day slowing killing you. We desperately need more trades people.
Every high school should have an apprenticeship program. College shouldn’t be the only option after high school. Teens should be free to choose where they want to go after graduation. Going to a trade school does not mean you aren’t smart enough to go to college, it just means you want to pursue different things that don’t require a college degree. There are a ton of trades both in the US and around the world that need new people to continue. If these trades are not revitalized, the knowledge passed down from master to apprentice will be lost.
The apprenticeship program is an awesome idea. 👍
@@onelove6177 thank you
2:38 " Students as early as 9th grade learn about carpentry , plumbing and masonry. " Well, metal and wood shop used to start in 7 and 8th grade where you used actual tools not a plastic tool set from Fisher Price.
@@bobroberts2371 schools should bring back shop and home ec. Classes that taught real life skills, and not just history, etc.
@@WanderingRationalist History has some merit but not how it was taught when I was in school ( mindless memorization of places and dates ) . The channel " The History Guy " is the way history should be taught. Give students a vast array of 10 to 15 min engaging lessons then have them pick one that interests them for further investigation / report / testing .
As a retired teacher, I encourage all my nieces and nephews to go to a trade school rather than college. All of my nieces and nephews who went to a trade school are making far more money than I did as a teacher. If I knew then what I know now, I would have gone into a trade rather than college. I made CRAP as a teacher. I even made more money working a second job as a part time server than a full time teacher.......go figure......
High schools need to do a better job with this. We can't find enough plumbers, mechanics, welders, heating and air conditioning people, carpenters, electricians. No debt and great paying jobs. Start with an apprenticeship.
@Karen Hardie I'm from the South. Down here, not all those jobs pay that well. I'm sure this is due to the Indigenous Mexicans (legal or not). They're known for working hard, doing quality work, and are willing to work for less. This keeps them employed throughout my state. There are far more men capable of doing the jobs than there is demand. Plus, you really have to know someone to get in with the best companies. They like to keep things "all in the family."
@@chocolateangel8743 We are up north. It probably does vary where you live.
$100k+ for a worthless piece of paper and a job at a coffee shop or much less money for a skill that will always be in demand and pay six figures after a few years.
It depends on what you want to do. If you want to be a lawyer, doctor, accounting or tech then college is for you. Everything else is pretty much pointless.
@@asdfghjkl3003 when to college for cis and do desktop support for a school now
It’s not a bad job at all and less stressful on the body
As someone who finish a degree program in computer info system this is definitely true
Do help desk now and it’s not a bad job by any means
It beats McDonald’s at least
Don't worry, Biden just passed a 10 K loan forgiveness for people earning under 125 K per year. Expect another round when 2024 gets near
In the Philippines, we have this trade school called TESDA, it's a 6 month government funded program and they offer vocational courses like this,
cooking, massage therapy, care giving/nursing aide , repair technician, bookkeeping etc.
This, this and other trade programs are what's needed ! WOW!
I think whatever is comfortable for the student they should go for what they want in life
I did this 47 years ago. I was an Ironworker welder.
I recently saw a news piece where a high school senior signed a letter of commitment to a Plumbing or construction company. It’s was just like a university signing. Press was there, parents proudly next to him. I thought it was brilliant.
I did plumbing in high school and I loved it and I graduated from High school in 2014
This story is so important for students to know there are many routes to find pride in self and build a solid foundation to grow a life. Having a trade allows you to stand up and say I know how to offer the services needed , and I can continue to grow in my trade over the coming years to be an example and be a success. My father came to Canada with no family and no english but he was a master jeweller and watch maker and was employable through the language of his trade. He went on to own his business for over 40 years. Peace to the World.
A trade will keep you employed a lifetime
Or anything in tech too
@@bryanc1772 Tech as in IT / computers changes so rapidly that a skill you had a year go is long gone. And, if you do some research, some employers pretty much expect you to have 5 years experience in a technology that is 6 months old.
@@bobroberts2371 It doesn’t matter , someone has to keep tech running ( repair , coding , systems etc)
Many CSS/ Help desk people still have to help troubleshoot even the most basic computer problems and it pays decently
Go trade school students ! ❤️❤️❤️ get skills so you can sustain yourself and your community !
110% on this piece!
Trade school is fantastic, however the college system needs to be restructed and improved
I did the college thing and I have a degree and a cert when I leave my degree off my resume I get called for interviews when I put in on there I get crickets. I will tell any kid out there graduating…. You don’t “NEED” college!!! But you need goals and you need passion for what you want to do.
Just had a terrific experience with highly skilled HVAC techs. Terrific folks.
Four year colleges are mainly good for STEM careers and personal enrichment such as health/nutrition and learning about arts/cultures. If you’re not doing one of those things it is certainly a waste of time and money in my opinion.
This is a great story indeed!
About time traditional levelheaded trades get the respect they deserve.
Depends on what degree program you chose
If you go for a Technology degree , you can find a decent paying job always even Help desk
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I graduated with a mechanical engineering degree and ended up being fortunate enough to work within the field and earn what I'm supposed to when I got out (maybe even more), but I found that whether you go to college for engineering/medicine or you go to the trades for welding, both were equally screwed as far as pay, opportunities when they graduated, and work/life balance. The skills you learn in trades are things you should learn how to do regardless of what field you go in, fixing your car, carpentry, plumbing, cooking, etc.
With this trend though, maybe there will be less and less people with a college degree and thus an uptick in demand and with it hopefully pay.
I never regret learning a trade. I make far more money than the people working Starbucks with a Masters degree. Several people I know spent 8 years going to school and working in retail/service industry just to go towork in their field (or not) making peanuts. Book smart. Common sense not so much.
Well, whatever route you take, you need to do research and to have a plan. A person that goes into the trades could end up making the same money as someone with a stupid college degree. The simple truth is that there are only a handful of degrees or trades that pay really well. If you don't go into one of them, you will end up struggling your entire life.
Annie you are so right. I have literally sat next to people at a call center making $12 an hour and they had a PH.D. Sad but true.
@@warrenwilson70 WOW! What you study in school really does matter.
Thank you so much because I have certain family members on my grandson family that putting pressure on him and that is so true to let him decide his future and what he wants to do then later if he wants to go to college that's great thank you Stephanie I agree 👍 😊❤️🙋♀️🌅
i think i’m going to trade school instead. i don’t want to have to pay off a debt for the rest of my life lol
This is not always the case it really depends.
I went to university for an IT Program and do Desktop support
Only took me 6 months to pay off student loans after graduation
@@bryanc1772 that's not true for everyone, especially with today's options and tuition rates for degree programs. That's nice though
@@nlibby5549 that’s why I said that’s not always the case.
I went to a local state university and got financial aid and turned out right
If your aiming to go to a more prestigious school like USC or get a masters program then yes that will be costly
Worked construction after high school. Done it all, flooring, framing, painting and was miserable specially during hot or cold weather. The project managers and builders were also miserbale sitting in their trucks because they didnt want to be outside in the cold or hot weather. Go to college and find you a job in a cozy office. You will not regret it when summer or winter comes
regret debt
Trade Schools should send recruiters to high schools every year, just like the military services.👍🌄😃
I joined the Army after high school. I am planning to complete a full army career, then go to trade school.
Here's another thing that needs to be brought up more: the four year bachelor degree is rapidly losing value. You need at least a Master's degree to be competitive in today's job market.
College is becoming more and more useless because so many people have a bachelors degree now it's value isn't as good anymore
I went to community college studied Mechanical Engineering Technology and was hired by GE as apprentice machinist. This was 1978 had a great career and will be retiring soon, I will actually miss not working. As I look back it was a great choice for me.
Depends what you go college for. Anything health and tech related will pay off. I went the tech route and was making close to 80k before I was even finished with my degree. And this is for an entry level security analyst position.
when i was in high school, people would tell you to go to college and it will change your life. time is change fast
Im going to a trade school after I graduate.
I went to trade school I have my degree in culinary arts
Trades are only good if your going to have your business . I was in the plumbers union and it was a nightmare. We were always reprimanded that we were behind schedule and that we need to speed things up . Contractors were never happy no matter how hard you worked.
The problem with trade schools is you only learn a trade, you don't get a well-rounded education. Smart enough to use some machines, but not smart enough to think.
If college makes people smart enough to think, then why are there so many graduates crying to have their debt cancelled/forgiven? Surely they used their thinking skills to become rich.
@@VisionT You have to be smart to survive being homeless with that useless degree!
Good! We need tradespeople!!
Wonderful! 💪😎
To start with, calling them trade schools is a put down. After 2 tours in Vietnam, my first post high school education was to get a Federal Aviation Mechanic's license. I am now retired with a box full of degrees including an Industrial Arts Ed BS and a PhD in Vocational Education. I have been preaching that the majority of students don't need a college degree for 50 years. 🥴 I spent more years as a "blue-collar" worker than I did as an educator and made better money working with my hands. Due to special circumstances, it cost me nothing to get a PhD. I only got that so that college graduate managers would listen to me when I explained what additional skills and knowledge their employees needed. It didn't make me any better working with their employees but it did get the stupids to listen. The level of ignorance and stupidity in management is unbelievable! 🤯 I think they keep their 🧠 in their briefcases 💼.
If you want to see a joke, take some online college classes. You get "taught" by attending zoom meetings with professors that spend the first thirty minutes of class trying to share the screen with the rest of the class. Almost everyone cheats on the homework because they can, then they fail the exams because they are proctored by screen-recording spyware that they are forced to install on their computers.
It's housing that's the biggest killer. If your house is paid off, you and your kids can do whatever work you guys want (with college or not) and you can still live a good life!
The younger generation is going to ask AI 😮😮😮 how to build a house, fix the leaky sink, fix lights, or repair a car. We need trades school.
1:00 to 1:05 I don't see any sheet metal here, just wood.
2:00
Have you ever considered becoming a monk?
Ah cool the back of my head came on
Skilled Trade IS employment. In fact, its a step ABOVE regular employment & BELOW Owning your own business.
Production work is what regular employment is, but you're passing the buck. SKilled Trade is where YOu are there from start to finish.
i like college over trade school. i tried to get in a trade school and was told college is a better fit for me.
And your degree and present job is?
@@bobroberts2371 I have a degree in accounting with computer science minor. I am studying math and artificial intelligence. I think many jobs can be automated more. Some jobs will be completely be eliminated. People may have jobs that pay good. For example there is a transition in the transportation industry to go all electric then full self driving.. I am studying to see if I can help in the transition. Another area I like is cognitive automation. People look at doing a job I look at automating that job or eliminating the job. I have no college debt. My job was computer programing. Payed for my house in 5 years. Bought a new Tesla took 2 years to pay for it.
Hey pal,
I am Barbender and fixer by trade. What it is called in USA?
I have searched in Google but could not find out about it.I want to take courses related to Barbending in USA or skills acknowledging course so that I can transfer my 7+ experiences , do you have any suggestions?
And how much they make in USA on an average?
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Colleges/Universities need to stop these useless majors that pay nothing and only sets one up for debt and no job. Start teaching skill specific needs that sets people up for a lifetime of success and little to no debt. Stop shaming people that do not have that "college degree." Looks who's laughing now? The trade, vocational and community college graduates!
Company HR and hiring departments are part of the problem. Some state " college degree required " but either don't state what type of degree or the job really does not need a degree. I saw a horse trainer job that required " college degree , any " . I think I'd rather hire someone that grew up on a farm than someone with a degree in German Polka History with a minor in Aztek Household Studies.
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