guy leaves society to get away from the government, thinks they are attacking him. government keeps going to the middle of nowhere to attack him. government calls him crazy. okay then.
The government did leave him alone until he started stealing other hunters supplies , making death threats , then someone goes missing !? And stealing a mans supplies in the middle of know where that's low !
@@stevedavis9462 Again, it'll never happen, there "WILL" always be someone or some entity that wants to take something from you. I'm sure you know this fact, just saying. If someone wants "at you" you'll NEVER ever left alone. Never fear evil.....j.m.o.
try living with them. it's not like Hollywood. they are neither omnipotent nor omniscient, nor benevolent. and they sure as hell aren't endowed with mystical wisdom let alone metaphysical powers
Helping to create an image of "supernatural powers" has been used effectively before. By individuals as well as governments. A prime example being the Duvalier regime of Haiti, who played on the natives' fear of voodoo to terrorize the populace into submission.
There was real "black magic" in our Tlingit history. Christianity wiped most of it out. My grandfather was the last one I've known to watch a shape-shifting Shaman turn into a crane. That is against nature and God's order. Thank God for the light of His Son! ✝️ ☦️
@@ernstschrandt3676 Actually "bat shit crazy" brings about an image that technical terms couldn't. Whatever the words are that work best are the correct choice,
😂 very myopic viewpoint considering what happened here. Lol another dip💩 chiming in with not 1 but 2 fallacies in just 1 sentence and doesn't have the mental capacity to grasp them.
He just wanted to be free. There are those that cannot fathom the concept of freedom. I envy the experiences and the talent this man had to exist in such an adverse environment. Leave it to some government authority to defy the very concept of freedom.
@XXNerdzillaXX me and my friends have a saying. the difference between a conspiracy theory and the truth nowadays appears to be 3-6 months 😂 because whats a conspiracy theory today, governments seem to admit to later.
@@keltongillanders5736 There's nothing new under the sun. When I was a kid, just even mentioning that stuff would get ya completely ejected from social groups. It's come a long way, but not far enough. It's too slow and it's only gonna get worse before it gets worse.
Government killed the Weavers dog and Gordon Kahls dog trying to provoke a gun fight. It worked with the Weavers because they shot the 13 year old Sammy weavers dog right infront of him. Then they sprayed him up his back as he ran away. They killed a 13 year old child with a machine gun. Then a sniper took his mother out as she nursed her 5 month old baby
@@Spooky_515 From The Dirt! Vote For Proper Representation! Run For Office! Working Together as Americans Under The Constitution lawfully with respect to the law and the Constitution is the only way from the ground up to Protect each other and evoke Favorable Change. The System is in Place as WE THE PEOPLE to Take Charge and Elect Representatives that Do Exactly What We Want Them to do! There is no "Them".Unless you sit on your ass and do nothing, whilst your Opponents elect their dude,Dude.
Right? “Oh we can’t catch theses dogs living in the wilderness who are only familiar with one human being… better just kill them” Big government logic for sure.
@@66Bunn We do not know the circumstances of that murder. What is absolutely sure is that law enforcement killed his dogs for no reason just for the hell of it. Does that make anybody empathetic to law enforcement?
The only good choice Oros made was dodging that draft. Everything else he did afterwards was entirely uncalled for and a product of his paranoid schizophrenia. Clearly anti-establishment bias if you believe otherwise.
Hello Shredmur. I've heard this story from other sources and they're usually from interviews of RCMP and people in nearby cities. When the indigenous people are mentioned it's usually the Tlingit people. But in truth Mike Oros has spent most of his time in northern BC which is mostly Tahltan territory where I am from. My dad has stories of my grandpa befriending him when he was just a young harmless man looking to live in the bush. Sometimes he would be found sleeping in the church when he passed through. Oros has spent a lot of his early years living with people from Telegraph and Iskut where he learned to survive in the north. He spent five years with a couple from telegraph until he got kicked out for uttering death threats after an altercation with their dogs. Another story was someone coming home one morning and finding someone broke into their house, cooked a meal and washed the dishes and left. Everyone knew it was him because that behavior was out of character of everyone else but him.
him and fletcher had fights about him up in chesly using/breaking in his hunting cabins, lots of people knew him from atlin to iskut, he use the telegraph trail as highway
@@vicdelange2634 Yes he did frequently used the trail. And not everyone was afraid of him. Back then, a lot of people were willing to shoot him if they got in a hostile encounter with him once he became a known killer. Also Fletcher Day was a legend himself just like all the old elders those days.
Just goes to show that you're never free. Sometimes you mess with the wrong person. They killed his dogs which would have pissed me off too. All that grief and the charges didn't stick. No one bothered to see that his mental illness was treated.
@@miraxus6264 I’m not trying to be insulting. Just trying to inspire thought. It’s easy to kinda place blame. Someone obviously dropped the ball somewhere. But even before the dogs were gone he’d killed right? How do we check, guys living like this, mental health? I think a lot of this falls on Mikes shoulders. I don’t think that’s victim blaming.
@StLMikie maybe I heard it wrong. But..how do we know he killed that 1 guy? It said he shot him..but they then said the defense could argue that this guy had dissapeared before...so apparently no one witnessed that..and they shot and killed oros..he didn't confess to it...hard to say how his mental health really was..to be fair..he lived in one of the harshest environments and lived alone...
@@miraxus6264 you’re absolutely right. And maybe I’m the one who misunderstood, but I thought that in the end they were able to connect his gun to the murder? Years after his death they did some science to figure it out?
@@jturtle5318 if you read yourself what your writing about "pushing people off their traditional lands." being "afraid and scared" after harassment and bodily harm is a normal reaction.
I got harassed by a US Federal park rangers. I told him hey I just want to be left alone! so he said I feel threatened!! they demanded I get out of my truck even though I wasn't driving and it wasn't running!!!.... I was parked on a dirt road by the river fishing they gave me a entire sobriety test!agenst my will. I passed it all ! even though I'm wearing leg braces with a spinal cord injury!!!! then they searched my truck!!!! illegally !!!and found an empty smashed flat beer can,under the truck seat, and """"lied """"and said it was half full of an=== Amber frothy liquid=== and gave me a fine for $140 bucks they detain me for over an hour humiliating me in front of people. all because I told him I want to be"""" left alone""""" these guys are super assholes,today!. that ain't the first time they've drew first blood. These corrupt Federal Park Rangers LYDE on the probable cause report! because I had a copy of it sent to me! it's perjury
@@stevenroper3577 it does. My sentence structure indicates that there was something off with me when I wrote it, as I didn’t proofread it. In my case, it was a lack of sufficient sleep due to personal stress.
@@stevenroper3577I don't have anything against people f from Denmark but this person obviously was raised in a subservient state of limitation. probably sobbed and bowed to the queen after forfeiting their own life and existence in trade for a small brain
Just read the book, for the second time. Hard to put down. He went mad from living in the bush by himself for too long, especially in the winter, when it’s dark just about all the time.
@markliebrock4268, That is not true, his paranoia is a genetic chemical imbalance in his brain and was only destined to deteriorate without medical treatment, I know because my brother in law became schizophrenic following his use of drugs when he was around 19 years old and could function fairly well until he would quit his medication. Luckily, he has never been violent, just hard to deal with. He is currently doing well in the only assisted living home in our state that will accept schizophrenic patients. That is a sad statement on our healthcare system! I see mentally ill people living on the streets every time that I go out.
Sounds like his paranoia was only furthered by "government officials" confirming every paranoid thought that he had. They essentially proved that he wasn't crazy. They relentlessly harassed this man .
@@clanrobertson7200 Ok but you really have no idea if it's true or not it just sounds like what happened to someone close to you. It's not like solitary confinement to the unbelievable extreme couldn't drive someone to snap. Solid minded or not.
Sounds like he got the waco ruby ridge railroad treatment, with no evidence of a crime and not convicted in any court of law. Which means he was innocent until proven guilty, instead he was murdered by clown enforcement
Yes it is ...but I think the mad trappers story is more degrading of the gov than this 1... when they started chasing him after the 1st shooting he went full on fight to the death mode! Wild
You are over confident in thinking there were NOT people in the woods...perhaps not people, but beings who can talk and very skilled at remaining hidden.
You are not hidden, I see you every morning when you climb down from your treehouse. Also, if you want to be hidden, stop dressing in all yellow clothing. Yellow is the most visible color. Try green or brown.
@@hopsta5628 At one time I believed they were....critters....no longer. They are beings, if you will, persons...They exhibit too many amazing abilities to be mere animals.
I worked at Sheslay area in 88, knew Fletcher & a few of his sons. Heard quite a bit about ‘Sheslay Mike’ & the unfortunate loss of the Constable. The Sheslay river & the Sheslay airstrip are notable features of the west Tahltan country
No one is more dangerous than a man who just wants to be LEFT ALONE. This man moved as far away from people as he could move and idiots still pursued him w weapons but zero probabl cause that he had committed a crime. Murdered him. Then hailed the govt murderer as a hero. Makes sense to who? 6 out
@@user-li3qf3nn8s I disagree. I don't have a ruler that decides my fate. I wud never submit to that line of thought. Only KING I have is Jesus. I do believe that we all have an appointment with death. And no matter where we go or what we do, we won't miss that appointment. I watched my soldiers travel 15000 miles to make that appointment. I have to believe that or the guilt wud drive me insane. I make this comment, not to start drama but just to relay another view point. Regards, 6 out
Followed you. Great presentation I had an acquaintance who lived in the arctic of Canada in the 1970s , he lived in a small tent and would spy on oil exploration of competitors of his employers, He would document the depth of the drilling , and other details, I was amazed that he would do that type of work, However he was very well paid and obviously had the knowledge and skills
I know a trucker who was stopped by mike on the side of the road. Holding a rifle, hatchet and a machete. He denied the man a ride and kept going. (Edit: y’all probably been throat fuckin Mike eh? So y’all know where driver was and where Michael was eh? If so where and what colour was drivers cab over peterbilt?)
its painfully obvious now that we cant just trust governments...some people/organizations have self serving agendas...too many documented cases of governance testing things on people including spray from a variety of aircraft...its too easy and comfortable to dismiss anomalous incidentals as delusion or madness... ...we all want things to fit neatly into the boxes of our comfort zone and personal or group mentalities... ... sometimes we need a modified or bigger box to readily fit increasing/evolving realities...
I had a lee enfield.303 for a bit . Problem was during that time all I could find was old ww1 ammunition made from that stick propellant cordon or whatever it was called . It wasn’t reliable. It would hang fire at best. It was the worst ammo I ever had . It usually fired but always hang fired. I bet he had the same ammo. This was before the internet so we didn’t have options for ammunition. He’d already been arrested so he probably only had his crappy backup rifle
I believe it's called cordite. Smokeless powder mix formed intro strands and packed vertically inside the brass. Produces a slow burn effect or something like that, I'm too lazy to google it right now.
It's actually more sad that everything oros suspected came true. They hunted down a sick man who actually needed help. Its sickening that you sympathize for the oppressors.
Having worked in acute-care psychiatry for 20 years, I just want to confirm that what you say about people with delusions can be true. Sometimes, and certainly not all the time, but sometimes a person with delusions can have a fully normal conversation and unless you bring up the topic that their delusions are steeped in, you will never realize they're delusional because they are fully lucid on all other topics.
This whole story feels like a movie to me. Kudos 👏 for your narration. Although half of the time I must admit I thought about moving on bc it's a long story but I am very happy I stayed for the end ☺️. Your a great story teller! You certainly have my Sub. ❤
Around the first question psychiatrists ask you when trying to determine if you're sane or insane or going insane is "Do you hear voices speaking when no one is there?"
Laws where stupid back then and today the laws are still stupid depends where you come from , ie in Australia we have the high court letting the worst criminals out in public with no ankle tracking bracelet attached they are roaming free , rapists murders , pediphiles etc , imagin that, this is our government in 2024 allowing this ,unbelievable disgusting so yeah all this time and we still have incompetent authorities Around the world .
That hit me the most as well. Mike Buday sounded like a quite a rare gem. The kind of man you want as a best friend. Rough around the edges, but a blast to be around and someone you can rely on to have your back when things get hairy. A rare type in today’s society. RIP Mounty Buday.
The man in the documentary "Willard" whom lived in the Canadian wilderness for 60 years also was a ' draft dodger'. He jumped from a troop train during WW II.
I enjoyed listening to this , mad man’s story , I could imagine this in a book , I would have really enjoyed reading that , real life stories of events of what ever kind in a book I can read and enjoy , thanks for sharing.
duuuuuuuude lol which one? Jk but I hear ya. George Lishi aka Dead-walking German Baron fellow-who died & denied his inheritance 😁 Oros was not wrong when he wrote 'untrustful- geoge, hiding here'
Great story. I completely understand Oros's desire to live to himself away from the things of man. I have done shorter stints in the wilder places of North America myself for the same reasons. That being said, I also know how crucial it is to be courteous and hospitable to other people you meet in that setting. Paranoia will destroy ya.
My best friend was the same, except he still remains aloof in his home,it became harder to see him,he also had super human strength.i could not feel safe in his presence any longer.
He wasn't a "draft dodger". He was a free man. Nowhere was our government granted the authority to force someone to fight in forien wars. The draft is completely unconstitutional.
Alright, I was on the RCMP's side up until they shot his dogs because he killed some old runaway Nazi who faked his own death decades prior. That was just revenge by the RCMP because Oros was acquitted on all charges initially.
So you don't think it was sad that Michael Oros was also murdered? At least he was able to take out the guy that came into his cell when he was in custody and "whooped his ass". One man versus three teams of thugs sent to capture or kill him, and he might've succeeded in dispatching them all had it not been for that dud round failure to fire.
Lol imagine siding with the violent paranoid schizophrenic. The man was mentally ill and very dangerous. I agree the situation sucks and might have been handled better with modern gear and training. But Monday morning quarterbacking an almost 45 years old conflict isn't going to help anything.
you have a vary diplomatic way of saying Lishy was an actual N4z1... i feel way more sympathy for Oros and his dogs that the rcmp executed then i do for the ex-n4z1 that was known to start s**t with other trappers.. also when Oros was freaking out in his cell i can just imagine why.. cops had probably just told him about what happened to his dogs. not defending the man or his actions but that thing about the dogs made my blood boil.
Why you censor word nazi, and in all likelihood he was 16 yo kid who just had to join the war. He also very likely ended up living in north american wilderness because of his war experiences leaving massive fortune behind. Why you feel so sorry for Oros? Like sure he clearly needed to be locked up in some mental health hospital, and its unfortunate, but he also was absolute terror of the region. It was just pure chanse this n4z1 like you call him ended up been his first victim as we know of. Oros for example routinely terrorized the native trappers out of their lands, even the native couple that taught him survival skills received constant death threats, and he raided pretty much everyones cabins, and hunting grounds leaving his mark supposedly marking them as "his land"
Lishy was 16 when a gun was forced into his hands and shoved towards the oncoming Soviet hordes, I imagine his time in combat was very short and brutal before he was captured and packed off to a Siberian gulag. No nazi.
@@antonrudenham3259 The Germans attacked the Russians "On the 22nd of June 1941, Adolf Hitler launched Operation Barbarossa, Germany's invasion of the Soviet Union. It was the beginning of a campaign that would ultimately decide the Second World War." and 24 million or so died. For all we know he could have worked at a camp past 16. The baddies hid out till the 50s in forests. It was probably his rigid nature and perhaps prejudice that pissed off the hippy bushman killer.
Very interesting version of the story, I know Mike’s brother, Bob Buday and heard his own version. Unfortunately they both had the same ending which was very hard on Bob to tell. RIP.
So a guy who previously disappeared and considered dead , was supposedly killed with zero proof. Then they lied to this guy they set up for killing a dead guy, and took him, then stole his stuff, and killed his dogs , then went after him again for shooting at the people who kid napped him and killed his dogs. Sounds a little like maybe he was an asset that got away and they wanted him back doing what they wanted or killed . Oros. Got the drop on one group but didn’t kill then, but someone thinks he was gonna go kill the other team first. He was hunting the people he didn’t kill when he had a chance??
It's just too bad he murdered an innocent man. And destroy other folks property, absolutely go in and make use of anything in it, including living there until you have it together. But murder and destruction of your own property. Feller was dangerous. And sick. I honestly feel bad for all involved.
@@jturtle5318 Shit man thank YOU! I have really bad eyes, so wouldn't of picked up on that. Just sounded like the same word to me. Thank goodness for that poor man and his relatives that live on under the same surname that is what is really important here.
guy leaves society to get away from the government, thinks they are attacking him. government keeps going to the middle of nowhere to attack him. government calls him crazy. okay then.
Leave alone those that want to be left alone.
The government did leave him alone until he started stealing other hunters supplies , making death threats , then someone goes missing !?
And stealing a mans supplies in the middle of know where that's low !
sounds like oros waa selected from youth to be a project ritual. " flower of life" using mkultra agents. 39:39
Hey schmuck ,the guy was a thief murder of people not even looking for him. Not to mention he sounds f- cking crazy.
@@stevedavis9462 Again, it'll never happen, there "WILL" always be someone or some entity that wants to take something from you. I'm sure you know this fact, just saying. If someone wants "at you" you'll NEVER ever left alone. Never fear evil.....j.m.o.
It's pretty impressive to intimidate a tribe from going into an area because you're batshit crazy.
Great terminology, LOL.
try living with them. it's not like Hollywood. they are neither omnipotent nor omniscient, nor benevolent. and they sure as hell aren't endowed with mystical wisdom let alone metaphysical powers
Helping to create an image of "supernatural powers" has been used effectively before. By individuals as well as governments. A prime example being the Duvalier regime of Haiti, who played on the natives' fear of voodoo to terrorize the populace into submission.
There was real "black magic" in our Tlingit history. Christianity wiped most of it out. My grandfather was the last one I've known to watch a shape-shifting Shaman turn into a crane. That is against nature and God's order. Thank God for the light of His Son! ✝️ ☦️
@@ernstschrandt3676 Actually "bat shit crazy" brings about an image that technical terms couldn't. Whatever the words are that work best are the correct choice,
If you know someone wants to be left alone, LEAVE THEM ALONE !!!
It'll NEVER happen, there WILL always be someone willing to f..k. with us.......Just saying
😂 very myopic viewpoint considering what happened here. Lol another dip💩 chiming in with not 1 but 2 fallacies in just 1 sentence and doesn't have the mental capacity to grasp them.
That’s the worst thing you could possibly do when you’re dealing with someone suffering from a severe mental illness like Oros.
Kind of hard when he takes over your cabin.
@Stevedavis
“Finding a home and being free” are what most people are looking for I think. But those things change shape and meaning over time
Yes those things instantly change when you commit violent felonies.
He just wanted to be free. There are those that cannot fathom the concept of freedom. I envy the experiences and the talent this man had to exist in such an adverse environment. Leave it to some government authority to defy the very concept of freedom.
@@geraldcalderone7190 men are what you make them
Its lazy, pie in the sky escapism. Face your life. Running from it is just bs
Being free is still a possibility. Don't knock it because wea aren't there yet. @@tamatirogerson6421
And of course the CIA would never give mind altering drugs to american civilians....
Riiiiiiiiiiiight?! Cause that would NEVER happen... That's "conspiracy theory".
@XXNerdzillaXX me and my friends have a saying. the difference between a conspiracy theory and the truth nowadays appears to be 3-6 months 😂 because whats a conspiracy theory today, governments seem to admit to later.
@@keltongillanders5736 Yup, that saying has been around for a few decades. Makes sense.
@@XXNerdzillaXX i dont know where i first heard it but i didnt knpw itd been around THAT long, thats crazy lol
@@keltongillanders5736 There's nothing new under the sun. When I was a kid, just even mentioning that stuff would get ya completely ejected from social groups. It's come a long way, but not far enough. It's too slow and it's only gonna get worse before it gets worse.
If you kill a mans dog you'll be hunted.
A man shouldn't ever give anyone an opportunity to kill his dog.
Or A Reason
@@renegade2556 He didn't. They promised him they'd look after them. I'm fairly certain the original agreement didn't include just shooting them.
Government killed the Weavers dog and Gordon Kahls dog trying to provoke a gun fight. It worked with the Weavers because they shot the 13 year old Sammy weavers dog right infront of him. Then they sprayed him up his back as he ran away. They killed a 13 year old child with a machine gun. Then a sniper took his mother out as she nursed her 5 month old baby
@@Spooky_515 From The Dirt! Vote For Proper Representation! Run For Office! Working Together as Americans Under The Constitution lawfully with respect to the law and the Constitution is the only way from the ground up to Protect each other and evoke Favorable Change. The System is in Place as WE THE PEOPLE to Take Charge and Elect Representatives that Do Exactly What We Want Them to do! There is no "Them".Unless you sit on your ass and do nothing, whilst your Opponents elect their dude,Dude.
They can make up story when no witness
I bet you they will
They killed his dogs?!?
It's on now.
Just like the FBI and ATF they will always go after your pets
For sure. Government agents cannot be classified as human beings.
Right? “Oh we can’t catch theses dogs living in the wilderness who are only familiar with one human being… better just kill them” Big government logic for sure.
@@ComboMuster True keyboard warriors. Hate the agents who killed the dogs, but not the psychopath who killed an innocent person.
@@66Bunn We do not know the circumstances of that murder. What is absolutely sure is that law enforcement killed his dogs for no reason just for the hell of it. Does that make anybody empathetic to law enforcement?
You have alot of confidence in the government being the good guy in the story 😅
The only good choice Oros made was dodging that draft. Everything else he did afterwards was entirely uncalled for and a product of his paranoid schizophrenia. Clearly anti-establishment bias if you believe otherwise.
Well listen to him. He clearly does not have a high IQ.
drawing some lines there aren't you.
@@Lifted001 Getting away to live secluded and off grid is 1 thing but he definitely took it to a whole other level. He invited his problems for sure
The government put a lot off effort in for a stolen boat worth probably under 100 dollars.
Hello Shredmur. I've heard this story from other sources and they're usually from interviews of RCMP and people in nearby cities. When the indigenous people are mentioned it's usually the Tlingit people. But in truth Mike Oros has spent most of his time in northern BC which is mostly Tahltan territory where I am from. My dad has stories of my grandpa befriending him when he was just a young harmless man looking to live in the bush. Sometimes he would be found sleeping in the church when he passed through.
Oros has spent a lot of his early years living with people from Telegraph and Iskut where he learned to survive in the north. He spent five years with a couple from telegraph until he got kicked out for uttering death threats after an altercation with their dogs. Another story was someone coming home one morning and finding someone broke into their house, cooked a meal and washed the dishes and left. Everyone knew it was him because that behavior was out of character of everyone else but him.
him and fletcher had fights about him up in chesly using/breaking in his hunting cabins, lots of people knew him from atlin to iskut, he use the telegraph trail as highway
@@vicdelange2634 Yes he did frequently used the trail. And not everyone was afraid of him. Back then, a lot of people were willing to shoot him if they got in a hostile encounter with him once he became a known killer.
Also Fletcher Day was a legend himself just like all the old elders those days.
@@vicdelange2634all of you were afraid of him. when oros came to town,you all pissed yer pants.
@@JohnnyDanger36963sure buddy keep fantasizing 😂
@JohnnyDanger36963 rumor has it, he was a distant relative of Chuck Norris.
I howling run around with the pack of dogs everyday so much better than conversing with humans and 10 times more loyal and truthful
Just goes to show that you're never free. Sometimes you mess with the wrong person. They killed his dogs which would have pissed me off too. All that grief and the charges didn't stick. No one bothered to see that his mental illness was treated.
Whose responsibility is it to have Mikes mental health in check?
@StLMikie that is a great point
@@miraxus6264 I’m not trying to be insulting. Just trying to inspire thought. It’s easy to kinda place blame. Someone obviously dropped the ball somewhere. But even before the dogs were gone he’d killed right? How do we check, guys living like this, mental health? I think a lot of this falls on Mikes shoulders. I don’t think that’s victim blaming.
@StLMikie maybe I heard it wrong. But..how do we know he killed that 1 guy? It said he shot him..but they then said the defense could argue that this guy had dissapeared before...so apparently no one witnessed that..and they shot and killed oros..he didn't confess to it...hard to say how his mental health really was..to be fair..he lived in one of the harshest environments and lived alone...
@@miraxus6264 you’re absolutely right. And maybe I’m the one who misunderstood, but I thought that in the end they were able to connect his gun to the murder? Years after his death they did some science to figure it out?
Canada has a lot of land where men like him could thrive.
Only if you know how to survive there, ie trapping etc , it’s not for everyone , men can die there to.
It isn't "thriving" if you're pushing local people off their traditional lands.
@@jturtle5318
what people? there's nobody except foxes, rabbits and deer.😂
Even Pocahontas didn't live in the woods
@@MrUzminiNu if you listen to the video, he explains that local trappers and hunters were afraid of him.
@@jturtle5318
if you read yourself what your writing about "pushing people off their traditional lands."
being "afraid and scared" after harassment and bodily harm is a normal reaction.
I'd never heard this story, very interesting, and excellent storytelling.
He was cursed by that cheap cordite powder used in the 303 british.
The sneekarounds were likely Sasquatch.
Or dogman they can get in your head or maybe skinwalker!
@@jasonmcmanus6169first thing I thought, Skinwalker.
Or hallucinations.
I'm Cherokee, we call them lookarounds.
Must have been Martians!
I got harassed by a US Federal park rangers. I told him hey I just want to be left alone! so he said I feel threatened!! they demanded I get out of my truck even though I wasn't driving and it wasn't running!!!.... I was parked on a dirt road by the river fishing they gave me a entire sobriety test!agenst my will. I passed it all ! even though I'm wearing leg braces with a spinal cord injury!!!! then they searched my truck!!!! illegally !!!and found an empty smashed flat beer can,under the truck seat, and """"lied """"and said it was half full of an=== Amber frothy liquid=== and gave me a fine for $140 bucks
they detain me for over an hour humiliating me in front of people. all because I told him I want to be"""" left alone""""" these guys are super assholes,today!. that ain't the first time they've drew first blood. These corrupt Federal Park Rangers LYDE on the probable cause report! because I had a copy of it sent to me! it's perjury
Local police wrongfully arrested me. Humiliated me infront of me neighbors and then the body cam footage was hacked lol
And yet you write your wrote this story as one sentence. Which is, in itself, an indication that you are not doing that well.
@@jdenmark1287 Look at your first sentence. (?)
Does it matter?
@@stevenroper3577 it does. My sentence structure indicates that there was something off with me when I wrote it, as I didn’t proofread it.
In my case, it was a lack of sufficient sleep due to personal stress.
@@stevenroper3577I don't have anything against people f from Denmark but this person obviously was raised in a subservient state of limitation.
probably sobbed and bowed to the queen after forfeiting their own life and existence in trade for a small brain
Just read the book, for the second time. Hard to put down. He went mad from living in the bush by himself for too long, especially in the winter, when it’s dark just about all the time.
@markliebrock4268,
That is not true, his paranoia is a genetic chemical imbalance in his brain and was only destined to deteriorate without medical treatment, I know because my brother in law became schizophrenic following his use of drugs when he was around 19 years old and could function fairly well until he would quit his medication. Luckily, he has never been violent, just hard to deal with. He is currently doing well in the only assisted living home in our state that will accept schizophrenic patients. That is a sad statement on our healthcare system! I see mentally ill people living on the streets every time that I go out.
@@clanrobertson7200yes, it sounds like he had paranoid schizophrenia.
Isolation drives you mad when you were already fucked up in the head to begin with. Nothing wrong with isolating yourself if you're not a nutcase.
Sounds like his paranoia was only furthered by "government officials" confirming every paranoid thought that he had.
They essentially proved that he wasn't crazy. They relentlessly harassed this man .
@@clanrobertson7200 Ok but you really have no idea if it's true or not it just sounds like what happened to someone close to you. It's not like solitary confinement to the unbelievable extreme couldn't drive someone to snap. Solid minded or not.
This story is in a book called “Descent into Madness” by Cpl. Vernon Frolick 8:45
Sounds like he got the waco ruby ridge railroad treatment, with no evidence of a crime and not convicted in any court of law. Which means he was innocent until proven guilty, instead he was murdered by clown enforcement
Sounds almost identical
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This video is missing one thing- a lone, bare lightbulb swinging slowly from the ceiling 😂😂
😅🤣😂😅 Oh God, that was perfect!!
Right, that would add a lot more😮
With "Tupelo" playing
Ok
😂👍🏻
This is why you never write anything down, or keep a journal. Only the cops are really interested.
VARY SIMULAR TO THE MAD TRAPPER OF RAT RIVER STORY.
Yes it is ...but I think the mad trappers story is more degrading of the gov than this 1... when they started chasing him after the 1st shooting he went full on fight to the death mode! Wild
And Malcolm naden in Australia. Roped and killed his cousin and then fled into the Australian bush for nearly 10 years.
They really don’t like people that live off grid that’s for sure
You are over confident in thinking there were NOT people in the woods...perhaps not people, but beings who can talk and very skilled at remaining hidden.
You are not hidden, I see you every morning when you climb down from your treehouse. Also, if you want to be hidden, stop dressing in all yellow clothing. Yellow is the most visible color. Try green or brown.
Indeed there IS !!
@@shanghunter7697 sabe...sasquatch
I know for a fact that the critters exist, I've had a few encounters with the critters that frequent a forest about 5 miles from my home.
@@hopsta5628 At one time I believed they were....critters....no longer. They are beings, if you will, persons...They exhibit too many amazing abilities to be mere animals.
I worked at Sheslay area in 88, knew Fletcher & a few of his sons. Heard quite a bit about ‘Sheslay Mike’ & the unfortunate loss of the Constable. The Sheslay river & the Sheslay airstrip are notable features of the west Tahltan country
Looked it up on satellite images (google). There is NOTHING out there. Now that’s rural.
@@npalmi88 that is an understatement, as remote & untamed as it gets. Incredibly beautiful magnificent country
No one is more dangerous than a man who just wants to be LEFT ALONE. This man moved as far away from people as he could move and idiots still pursued him w weapons but zero probabl cause that he had committed a crime. Murdered him. Then hailed the govt murderer as a hero.
Makes sense to who?
6 out
He was a constant threat to other people who had a right to be in the woods. Isolation doesn't alleviate the symptoms of schizophrenia.
That's how the world works, our rulers decide our fate.
@@user-li3qf3nn8s I disagree. I don't have a ruler that decides my fate. I wud never submit to that line of thought.
Only KING I have is Jesus.
I do believe that we all have an appointment with death. And no matter where we go or what we do, we won't miss that appointment.
I watched my soldiers travel 15000 miles to make that appointment. I have to believe that or the guilt wud drive me insane.
I make this comment, not to start drama but just to relay another view point.
Regards,
6 out
@@commanderman_64 6 out??? What does that mean, 6 out?
@@gabyvansant4533 it's military radio jargon.
6 is the commander call sign. Out means he's done sending message.
6 out
Followed you.
Great presentation
I had an acquaintance who lived in the arctic of Canada in the 1970s , he lived in a small tent and would spy on oil exploration of competitors of his employers,
He would document the depth of the drilling , and other details,
I was amazed that he would do that type of work,
However he was very well paid and obviously had the knowledge and skills
I know a trucker who was stopped by mike on the side of the road. Holding a rifle, hatchet and a machete. He denied the man a ride and kept going.
(Edit: y’all probably been throat fuckin Mike eh? So y’all know where driver was and where Michael was eh? If so where and what colour was drivers cab over peterbilt?)
Saw
@@lachlan1971 Means the same thing
@@AlbertanPeterbilt379You’re grammatically incorrect. 🙄🤦🏼♂️
Stay in school.
@@AlbertanPeterbilt379 past or present ffs
Alan, I don't think most people care about grammar on TH-cam comments.
Thr content of their comment is what matters.
Q: Hey you! are you breaking any laws?..
A: Maybe, is that level 4 body armor?🤣🤣
That’s a funny video
It’s called a squib. When the primer doesn’t ignite the gunpowder or the powder doesn’t burn all the way and the bullet doesn’t exit the rifle.
He got even with the guy who beat him up and killed his dogs.
As I always, say, dogs are man's best Friend. That's how you know cops aren't men.
Congrats on the response to this video dude! You’re doing somethin right! I personally loved the video
its painfully obvious now that we cant just trust governments...some people/organizations have self serving agendas...too many documented cases of governance testing things on people including spray from a variety of aircraft...its too easy and comfortable to dismiss anomalous incidentals as delusion or madness... ...we all want things to fit neatly into the boxes of our comfort zone and personal or group mentalities... ... sometimes we need a modified or bigger box to readily fit increasing/evolving realities...
Another schizo heard from.
Very well put my friend.
Aerosol disbursement program U.S.Gov.
You should add more pictures of the people you are referring to and any evidence or locations you are talking about. Good story though.
Thank you, I enjoyed the video!
I had a lee enfield.303 for a bit . Problem was during that time all I could find was old ww1 ammunition made from that stick propellant cordon or whatever it was called . It wasn’t reliable. It would hang fire at best. It was the worst ammo I ever had . It usually fired but always hang fired. I bet he had the same ammo. This was before the internet so we didn’t have options for ammunition. He’d already been arrested so he probably only had his crappy backup rifle
I believe it's called cordite. Smokeless powder mix formed intro strands and packed vertically inside the brass. Produces a slow burn effect or something like that, I'm too lazy to google it right now.
There's this zombie hunting WWII game. And one of the rifles was a Lee Enfield. Nice gun to use in the game
On top of everything else, solitude can truly fuck a person up too.
Only the weak or sick
It's actually more sad that everything oros suspected came true. They hunted down a sick man who actually needed help. Its sickening that you sympathize for the oppressors.
Naive to think everyone can be helped. Why don't you go try to help a scitzophrentic murderer and tell me how that goes for you
If some one shot my dogs, stole my shit knowing it was winter time , well it would no doubt have turned out a similar way.
Having worked in acute-care psychiatry for 20 years, I just want to confirm that what you say about people with delusions can be true. Sometimes, and certainly not all the time, but sometimes a person with delusions can have a fully normal conversation and unless you bring up the topic that their delusions are steeped in, you will never realize they're delusional because they are fully lucid on all other topics.
trump supporters explained.
Great job with this video. Keep it up
This whole story feels like a movie to me. Kudos 👏 for your narration. Although half of the time I must admit I thought about moving on bc it's a long story but I am very happy I stayed for the end ☺️. Your a great story teller! You certainly have my Sub. ❤
I truly enjoyed the way you narrated this story. Subscribed now and looking forward to more.
"Didnt have evidence, at this point."
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Sums up the criminal justice SYSTEM.
Reminds me of another Canadian manhunt story Albert Johnson aka The Mad Trapper of Rat River.
A very interesting story very well written and told. Many thanks.
I felt like you covered this story like a pro. Best wishes on your channel's growth.
Around the first question psychiatrists ask you when trying to determine if you're sane or insane or going insane is "Do you hear voices speaking when no one is there?"
Schizophrenia. It’s probably more common than most people think.
@@djquinn11Without a doubt... I've heard a few myself
I get songs stuck in my head at times, over and over again. It is maddening. eventually I just listen to another tune.
All psychologists are paranoid scitzoids.
Such crazy story. Really most people even living in the wilderness are nice folk, but also it draws in all kinds of crazies
Great story.. very moving presentation.
Great story, you're really good at this btw. I'm subbed and look forward to you telling more great stories in the future!
Sad about police officer. Oross should not have been released from a mental hospital
Laws where stupid back then and today the laws are still stupid depends where you come from , ie in Australia we have the high court letting the worst criminals out in public with no ankle tracking bracelet attached they are roaming free , rapists murders , pediphiles etc , imagin that, this is our government in 2024 allowing this ,unbelievable disgusting so yeah all this time and we still have incompetent authorities Around the world .
That hit me the most as well. Mike Buday sounded like a quite a rare gem. The kind of man you want as a best friend. Rough around the edges, but a blast to be around and someone you can rely on to have your back when things get hairy. A rare type in today’s society. RIP Mounty Buday.
The man in the documentary "Willard" whom lived in the Canadian wilderness for 60 years also was a ' draft dodger'.
He jumped from a troop train during WW II.
Mighty fine story telling.
Great narration, I enjoyed that.
Wow this story held my attention the entire time...Subscribed and looking forward to more content like this.
Nice job mate. Keep it up. From New Zealand..
That’s name phobic calling him his real name 😂
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Dick Proennecke could actually live in peace off grid
That man's been my hero for decades now, a REAL man !!
Idk where your sudden video output came from, but I'm digging it! Thanks and keep it up!
Great telling of this story..
Certain Lee Enfield .303 ammo was notoriously unreliable.
Yeah cordite propellant didn't age well, tons of ww1 surplus around back then.
@@wymonwatson1309 no offence to our Indian Brethren, but I've bought packs of rounds from the Subcontinent and the failure rate of ammo is ridiculous.
And now expensive as hell!
He doesn't seem like much of a survivalist if he is having to raid for food.
You don’t know shit
I enjoyed listening to this , mad man’s story , I could imagine this in a book , I would have really enjoyed reading that , real life stories of events of what ever kind in a book I can read and enjoy , thanks for sharing.
Great video ty
I'm subscribing just cuz i am hoping to find out where u found that nifty wall paper in some future episode.
Great job man. A far better delivery than a lot of bigger budgeting channels using ai inserted non relevant video. Im subscribing.
Cheers
Great story thanks!
Old ammo. Old rifle. Theres your miracle.
If he accepted induction into the Army, he would have been issued a modern weapon and all of the brand new ammunition that he could carry.
What a story!
Fantastic stories! Subscribed!!
Interesting story. thanks for the video.
Interesting story with a sad outcome
Shoulda just left him alone
Excellent video!
Great stuff!
Don't we all howl like Wolf?I howl like a wolf
Only crazy people don't howl.
Good Job Narrating man, better than alot of bigger channels who sensationalise events and add BS!
Good narration!
It is possible govt specialists studied Oros because they like to learn stealth tactics.
Is it wrong that I was rooting for the lunatic?
No sir you were not!
duuuuuuuude lol which one? Jk but I hear ya.
George Lishi aka Dead-walking German Baron fellow-who died & denied his inheritance 😁
Oros was not wrong when he wrote 'untrustful- geoge, hiding here'
Me too,as 50 says I root for the bad guy and turn off before the end cos the bad guy dies 😂
He was a thieving murderer who you wouldn’t want dating your sister. He asked for it , and he got it.
Yep definitely wrong lol
Soon to be forty years ago.
Great story. I completely understand Oros's desire to live to himself away from the things of man. I have done shorter stints in the wilder places of North America myself for the same reasons. That being said, I also know how crucial it is to be courteous and hospitable to other people you meet in that setting. Paranoia will destroy ya.
My best friend was the same, except he still remains aloof in his home,it became harder to see him,he also had super human strength.i could not feel safe in his presence any longer.
Great job with the story!
Canadian SWAT can only defeat American draft dodgers through miracles.
😂
He wasn't a "draft dodger". He was a free man. Nowhere was our government granted the authority to force someone to fight in forien wars. The draft is completely unconstitutional.
Canada burned your capital the last time you tried fighting them.
Rambo wasn't a draft dodger.
@@amirlach he was also fictional
Alright, I was on the RCMP's side up until they shot his dogs because he killed some old runaway Nazi who faked his own death decades prior.
That was just revenge by the RCMP because Oros was acquitted on all charges initially.
Thanks for sharing subscribed great video
So you don't think it was sad that Michael Oros was also murdered? At least he was able to take out the guy that came into his cell when he was in custody and "whooped his ass". One man versus three teams of thugs sent to capture or kill him, and he might've succeeded in dispatching them all had it not been for that dud round failure to fire.
Lol imagine siding with the violent paranoid schizophrenic. The man was mentally ill and very dangerous. I agree the situation sucks and might have been handled better with modern gear and training.
But Monday morning quarterbacking an almost 45 years old conflict isn't going to help anything.
38:14 DING DING DING!! MAGIC***33***DING,DING!!SPELL CAST!!
you have a vary diplomatic way of saying Lishy was an actual N4z1... i feel way more sympathy for Oros and his dogs that the rcmp executed then i do for the ex-n4z1 that was known to start s**t with other trappers.. also when Oros was freaking out in his cell i can just imagine why.. cops had probably just told him about what happened to his dogs. not defending the man or his actions but that thing about the dogs made my blood boil.
Why you censor word nazi, and in all likelihood he was 16 yo kid who just had to join the war. He also very likely ended up living in north american wilderness because of his war experiences leaving massive fortune behind. Why you feel so sorry for Oros? Like sure he clearly needed to be locked up in some mental health hospital, and its unfortunate, but he also was absolute terror of the region. It was just pure chanse this n4z1 like you call him ended up been his first victim as we know of. Oros for example routinely terrorized the native trappers out of their lands, even the native couple that taught him survival skills received constant death threats, and he raided pretty much everyones cabins, and hunting grounds leaving his mark supposedly marking them as "his land"
Lishy was 16 when a gun was forced into his hands and shoved towards the oncoming Soviet hordes, I imagine his time in combat was very short and brutal before he was captured and packed off to a Siberian gulag.
No nazi.
@@antonrudenham3259 The Germans attacked the Russians "On the 22nd of June 1941, Adolf Hitler launched Operation Barbarossa, Germany's invasion of the Soviet Union. It was the beginning of a campaign that would ultimately decide the Second World War." and 24 million or so died. For all we know he could have worked at a camp past 16. The baddies hid out till the 50s in forests. It was probably his rigid nature and perhaps prejudice that pissed off the hippy bushman killer.
@@lalli8152wack jobs sympathize with wack jobs
@@antonrudenham3259he doesn't know if he was one and you didn't know if he wasn't one
Very interesting version of the story, I know Mike’s brother, Bob Buday and heard his own version. Unfortunately they both had the same ending which was very hard on Bob to tell. RIP.
Great job
Great job ! Really enjoyed the story 👍
Great video. Do more
I definitely believe him in regards too this! I belive the government was antagonizing him!!!!
So a guy who previously disappeared and considered dead , was supposedly killed with zero proof. Then they lied to this guy they set up for killing a dead guy, and took him, then stole his stuff, and killed his dogs , then went after him again for shooting at the people who kid napped him and killed his dogs.
Sounds a little like maybe he was an asset that got away and they wanted him back doing what they wanted or killed . Oros. Got the drop on one group but didn’t kill then, but someone thinks he was gonna go kill the other team first. He was hunting the people he didn’t kill when he had a chance??
It's just too bad he murdered an innocent man.
And destroy other folks property, absolutely go in and make use of anything in it, including living there until you have it together. But murder and destruction of your own property. Feller was dangerous. And sick. I honestly feel bad for all involved.
unfortunate name of the tragically killed RCMP officer. Bidet. isn't that like a toilet that flushes out of the toilet instead of into it?
It washes your rectum. Bidet wanted to wash the crap out of Canada.
His name was Buday. It's even spelled out in some of the graphics.
@@jturtle5318 Shit man thank YOU! I have really bad eyes, so wouldn't of picked up on that. Just sounded like the same word to me. Thank goodness for that poor man and his relatives that live on under the same surname that is what is really important here.
THEY PUT HIM IN A MENTAL HOME AGAINST HIS WILL AND SHOT HIS DOGS!!! Fuck meeee...'They' were provoking him.