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Update 43's Livestream Has Me WORRIED For The Upcoming PVP Update!
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Great Ideas! One thing that would make every PVPer happy. Let us mount in Combat. The Combat bug is the single most infuriating thing in all of PVP
I would absolutely love a huge pvp upgrade to this game. This game has soooo much potential. If they made it cool I could see the hype even bringing people from other pvp games.
I don’t think update 43 is going to reflect update 44. I went back and looked at last years Q3 and it was basically teeny tiny bug fixes. This years Q4 I’m hoping is some sort of arena based content but I feel like it will be an update to Cyrodiil in some capacity because during a QA panel a developer said it uses Cyrodiil as a back bone but then retracted it later in the panel. Granted that could still mean anything and that was all the way back in Q1 times of this year
Fingers crossed dude! I wouldn’t expect Q3 to normally reflect anything about Q4 just for the reason you said - it’s usually just nice QOL changes and isn’t even close to the size of a systems addition.
The degree to which they were being secretive and kinda hyping it up is why I said that. Cautiously optimistic though, I’m ready for some awesome new PvP content, no doubt about it!
@@Cooperharley0204 I was surprised how much they hyped Q3 I think that’s why everyone is like wtf 😂. I hope and pray Q4 is good I’m curious to see what they even do.
🤣 yea for real dude. Update 43 after looking at these patch notes actually looks super sick regardless of home tours so pretty excited nonetheless 🤙🏻
@Cooperharley0204 they hyped up the housing update and look how that turned out
The PVP update won't be anything special, it'll probably be some more addons getting turned into features
the easiest thing they could do would be to make the cyro starting positions change each campaign so that people aren't travelling the same terrain all the time.
New PvP update: dodge timers for attacks
I would love to see a PVP mode that uses the whole map set up like imperial city having to rank up your character to advance to a new zone until you reach imperial city. Like vikings, board a boat to go to enemy territory and sack towns and claim resources, getting steadily more difficult until you get to cyrodiil and all hell breaks loose against the most experienced players
I would not mind for the PVP folks to see some love. BUT, there are 2 things, that I absolutely dislike. 1. The idea of driving PVE folks to PVP. Sorry, nope. PVP is an activity for those who want it, leave the rest of us alone with it. Make rewards PVO specific, not general specific. And 2. The idea of tying the fighter's guilt to PVP. Again: nope. The fighter's guild is a PVE faction. Make an entire PVP faction for those who want one, but keep PVE and PVP separate. Most players are PVE Players, and there is a reason for it.
I think you may have misunderstood my statement. I in no way want to force players into PvP, that’s ridiculous.
I stated that I would like the content to be so cool and so good that it makes us WANT to PvP even though we typically don’t. There are also plenty of crossovers between PvE and PvP content from a story perspective. The PVE questing side of the entire Ebonheart Pact is tied to bringing the 3 races of dark elves, argonians and nords together to literally fight in the 3 banner war, which is why I mentioned it’d be cool from a lore perspective to have fighters guild members practice against each other in the form of dueling tournaments.
They make a Menu to Tour battlegrounds arena x'D
I really hope the PvP Update is going to be good. PvP is what keeps me coming back. It is evergreen-content. Sure, Cyrodiil/IC is still just this one map but you always have to adapt to the circumstances. In PvE I know exactly how boss X plays after some tries. It doesn't change.
Ranked PvP is honestly the thing that would get me more into. Make it level 50+ only, and put a ranking system like they do with the archive leaderboards with a natural decay to keep the top end people playing and everyone pushing. Even if just the leaderboard as a reward, at least there would be some reason to do bgs other than being tired of Pve
I think ranked would be dope! But, just like everything, the reward structure REALLY needs to improve, otherwise I think it’d be short lived.
Season-unique titles, mounts, and exclusive cosmetics 👍🏻
No leaderboard is not enough of a reward. Sorry but we are a decade into the game with abysmal reward structures. Anything less than stellar content should and must be met with massive criticism or they will never change, they might not anyways. 😂
I haven't finished the pve in ic for a reason. XD
It’s really not THAT bad, just gotta figure out when to not go in if you don’t like the PVP side of it.
@@Chrysaphius86 ye, i can see it. Most of my play time is around "prime time", so i have very little wiggle room.
@@Eeehnamesarehard I usually go in in the mornings myself
Instance Seige would be cool... though wouldn't be a deathnail to overland PvP? I agree, though. The idea would be awesome! I have always loved the seige battles in PvP. However I really feel the same way as you. I have no hope for the update being anything other something the devs and ESO Stream Team members are excited to see..... remember a few years ago when WoW Devs got in trouble for saying something at a BlizzCon along the lines of "We hear you fans loud and clear. We know what you say you think want but the devs know what you really want. Even if you don't realize it is what you want. And we will give you what you really want, not what you think you want." It was delivered very cringe, but honestly ESO devs have done the exact same thing through their actions over the years. They are just super nice and 1000x more releatable than WoW devs (then, not now)... so the community gives them a pass.
Stuck in combat is a feature lol. Especially when you are wearing death dealers fete or some kind of pre buff set that you need to be in combat for😅
1:00 they've added two battleground maps since BGs release
2 maps in 7 years is hardly more than zero. It’s basically zero lets be real
Yea my point here, while not exact and I thank you for the correction, is there has been essentially nothing done for PvP for a long time. An exceedingly long time at that.
Hope it’s a good update, I’m counting on it. PVP has kept me playing for 10 years, but it definitely need some love.
I hope so too!! I’d love to get more into PvP!
PvP ideas are excellent 👍
Perfect ideas
Lets pray the house update was underwhelming because they invested all into the PvP update
Okay one more PvP complaint for the list: merchant gear boxes
I hate farming stones for hours just to buy a box that has a repeat drop. I don't mind grinding and I don't mind playing for the rewards, but it's not a grind if it's random. Grinding is working toward something but it's possible to never get the piece you're looking for and once you start calculating the number of stones and hours of play v. the cost at a guild trader, the smarter option is to just buy the gear rather than "earn" it anyway
Make all loot boxes curated so players know that they'll eventually get what they want. I like a lot of the Imperial City set but at the end of the day I feel like I'm losing rewards, not gaining them because of the merchant system
Good news for ya! Part of Update 43’s QOL additions includes curation of PvP loot boxes and the monster set shoulder coffers (specifically the ones that cost 5 keys; not the 1 key coffer).
The patch notes should be coming out here shortly and we’ll be able to see more about it! Super pumped 👍🏻
@@Cooperharley0204 good because i needed that!
They need instanced keep seige like Dark Age of Camelot had, that was fun PvP
Another no faction switch campaign (like Greyhost on the NA server) and fix the the combat bug. That would be so nice.
Guaranteed to just update the campaign names since they have been the same for years
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Hell we still have lag spikes and server issues now lol.i get booted from the pvp server everyday
Isn't it true that Cyrodiil used to be 300v300v300 at launch and now its only like 100v100v100
I don’t know about the exact numbers, but it’s definitely much less than it used to be!
I disagree with some of your statements regarding ZOS responding to players requests. Here are some of the issues:
1. I think the housing item limit for housing is a legacy console issue which would push things beyond the tech capability.??
2. I think the 3 team PvP is something that was written in the core of the game (via Cyrodiil) and I'm not sure it will be easy to fix??
3. ZOS has been pretty good delivering QoL issues in recent years (Stickerbook, Armory, Chromium platings changes)
I think the real exception to this has been the ZOS combat dev team. They are out of touch with the playerbase and don't even seem to understand the game itself (See the patently wrong statements about Necro debuffs on reddit which you reported). And as bad as they are with PvE, the Combat devs are far worse with PvP.
I think ZOS has been killing it in the QOL department! No doubt about it.
What I criticized is implementation of certain features that nobody has generally asked for in place of things the community has asked for for ages.
Your first point is true! They stated that a while ago, but I doubt it’s as present modern day. The 3 team PvP issue being a core code of the game doesn’t make too much sense to me as we’re still able to duel? They designed their battleground maps to be consistent with the 3 team stuff from the get go.
Definitely, definitely agree with the combat team statement :)
Yes!
Lots of comments saying ZOS can't add more coffers or housing furniture limits due to limitations on older consoles.
To which I ask, Will ZOS maintain the same. limitation in another 10 years? How about 20 more years? So 30 years after launch will the game be stuck in ps4 generstion when we are in ps8 generstion?
At some point people have to get better hardware to play more modern games.
News is alrwady stirring around the PS6. And we should all be limited because people play on the ps4? Which by the way was HORRBLE to play on!! The loading screen on my console was,i kid you not, 3 to 5 minutes when i switched toons or moved to new zones.
And if you click on the wrong toon or zone, that could easily be 10 minutes ill you get to playing the game again.
Then you have the death screen of this lading scree taking longer. Which was over half of the time! Then you have to close the game and that can be another 7 minutes till you play again!
And my internet was over 1 Gig/s. So it was 100% on ZOS and my console.
I was about to quit the game before getting it in ps5. Thats how bad it was. And that was years ago now.
So if i can't get more coffers and more storage when the game has doubled tripled in equipment because ZOS is holding onto ps4 players, its time to let them go.
The thing with last gen console support is that there clearly is a large enough population playing on last gen consoles to warrant them not dropping support - trust me, they’d definitely rather not have to support it if barely anyone was playing on them.
I suspect eventually we’ll cross a certain threshold and that support will drop - possibly around when the PS6 is becoming mainstream in discussions and such and the launch is within an arms reach (and the next Xbox console obviously).
@@Cooperharley0204 How many players are on last gen consoles?
Because it's very small now. I rarely come across ps4 players. The switch to ps5 was made quickly by eso players. That load screen time was a huge reason why. The games practically unplayable on ps4 now if you are a daily player. All the equipment and sets now are insane.
Watch them add the Pvpmeter add-on as the BIG NEW UPDATE for pvp 😂 Seems like something ZoS would do. It's lazy, it affects almost nothing, and the source code already exist via the players
Two things.. #1 Zos has said Ad-Nausium that they can't add more housing slots and still support older gen consoles and older PCs. I'm not sure why people keep asking, yes I too would like more.. and even came up with a system idea for it.. but it requires people to not be stupid.... yep..
#2... I am 100% convinced that the 'Tour' was only part of the housing features. IMO at 1: 22: 11 on the live stream.. they are showing what would have been the main feature...BUT it still has glitches/ bugs to work out.
As for the PvP update, I seriously could care less if they come up with a new system, arena or whatever...IF they fix the lag, stuck in combat bug and get Cyro back to being able to have huge azz battles...300 v 300 or more.
I won't argue with something new would be nice, but I would like the old shite fixed!
My son says he'd like to see Craglorn turned into a PvO area. IMO that would go over like a lead balloon... but heck, I could farm me some bots!
You’re right about the housing limits, but the last time I saw them mention the console limitations for housing was a while back. They also used this reasoning for not being able to implement new animations and a new class, but with scribing and the arcanist last year, I’m hesitant to say this is still the ONLY reason per se. Regardless, it’s still a feature the general housing population wants.
If they’re secretly hiding MORE about the housing update, I feel like that’d be pretty odd considering the central focus of the livestream was to announce this big new feature, but id be more than excited to be wrong about that! We shall see when the patch notes are released later today, but I’m not getting my hopes up for that 👍🏻
@@Cooperharley0204 I don't think they were hiding it, just didn't spotlight it. Cullen's voice was so low I didn't catch everything he said the 1st time, I had to go back in Vod cast and listen again.
Even the live stream was telling them to turn Cullen up.
The feature will be there on the house in PTS.. and I'd already planned to buy it PTS. But I can see a lot of Housing Streamers will be there also.
What they showed, toggling the flowering vines gone... IS a feature, that IMO is the tip of an iceberg, that Cullen said they were having issues with.
The ability to change set housing items with a toggle... choice in ??? This case a flowering vine, but IMO that's not all it was meant to be.
But yeah, for once I'll actually read the patch notes, ahead of listening to them from a Streamer TH-cam.
Efit: Most of the animations I've seen aren't 'new' per-se. Take the free animation we just got. What 'your' character does is very close to the animations the Khajiit make in the Martial schooling areas. The leaves moving is very close to the same one that one of the mounts uses. The firey disappear, now that might be 100% new.. or I just can't think of where it's used.
But they also streamlined a few things, which might not make a huge difference new gen console or newer PC.. but I saw a huge impact on my Old PC in performance. Which is IMO how they added new things without tanking older consoles and pc's.
But that is of course just my opinion and I could be 100% off base.
They should either make the weapons stronger or bring back individual zone leveling to make the lack of combat updates worthwhile instead of fighting each NPC for 5 mins
Imo, Zos just dropped a MAJOR updated (if it works or not, a different convo), but how are you dropping something already when this MAJOR updated isn't even 6 months old?
They’ve had a quarterly update system for quite a while at this point! Nothing new here and one of the many reasons people have stuck around for so long!
Nerf heal stacking via Battle Spirit. Unkillable ball groups have soured me on Cyrodiil more than the dreaded stuck-in-combat feature
After making a $1 billion last year. They better bring it and soon, because funding isn't the problem.
Where’d you see the $1 billion last year?
The numbers from GDC that they gave us were $2 billion over the past 10 years combined, meaning roughly $200 million per year. They’re definitely making some bank, but we don’t know how much of that is net profit - meaning after paying the devs, other generalized bills, and also how much of that is going towards their new IP that they’re developing.
"better bring it and soon" or what? lol
I am actually chasing Grand Overlord at the moment, but not for the title just for the furnishings. Housing is the true endgame 😂
I am a meat bag on PVP but i got and get SO MUCH FUN ON IT! But i am a farmer too. I know each inch of Cyrodiil [I don't like IC except sewers, i feel me really fine there but not in surface] and to me is DISGUSTING, DEPRESING AND SAD to see all those amazing places around Cyro abandoned, empty, without a mote of life. Maybe i am one of the few how made ALL CYRO QUEST the overland ones. I know each NPC in all three territories. Why ZoS don't create events for some Cyrodiil places. The lame Dolmens are broken and u don't feel the danger from daedra invasion. Why not create powerful hordes comming out IC to attack the six big keeps [Roe, Lessy, BRK, Chal, Alles and Ash] or a random huge daedra who attack them? Or big daedra hordes who attack the three far keeps [Brin, Dragon and Draken?] Or a timer, if any alliance left any keep alone for so much time that keep get ABANDONED STATUS and u need retake it but that keep gets daedra keepers. That could bring life to back posts [BM, BB, Farra, KC, Warden and Rayles]. PVP is su much fun, but it could more fun if just ZoS programmers use a little imagination to make us feel like in a real war zone. Today 90% of all Cyro land is always ALONE.
I bet the "big new PvP feature" will be them renaming the alliance war campaign names
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no lies told here , i’ve recently started PVP’ing this yr and when i first started i had a blast , as of now it’s gotten kind of repetitive. And don’t even get me started on capture the relic game mode !!
This will be an extremely unpopular take. I don't think PvP and PvE should coexist in MMOs. That divides the players into 2 camps, it halves the development team into 2 efforts and it ensures half your player base is not going to be happy with any update. Pick your lane and stick with it. Make a PvP centered Elder Scrolls MMO and axe PvP in ESO.
Love the music in the background 👍🏾❤️
I dislike cyridil very much. And when they made it randomn only in bg's i basically stopped pvp all together. Altho I really do like pvp alot there just isnt much fun it right now. I agree bring back specific bg option and make it 2 teams. Adding 2v2 or 3v3 arenas would be awesome. Heck even adding the option to make ones self pvp open in overland would be cool. But whatever i really hope they don't drop the ball on this one.
A dueling mode would be sick for PVP
I agree. I have no hope for eso pvp. I just want to get to Grandmaster so that I can buy elder scrolls for my house. I want to put three elder scrolls on a rope hanging in my victory hall. This way I can say "I own elder scrolls on line".
Eso pvp can be saved if the devs put in the effort. They don't want to put in the effort because the community is smaller than the pve community. The lack of effort drives away a larger pvp community. It is a self perpetuating problem and it won't last forever. It is why I have no hope for pvp outside of the one joke I stated above.
Pvp update is gonna be something nobody wants.
Hopefully not! I’m remaining cautiously optimistic 👍🏻
Give us ranked duelling arenas...
There is a reason PVP games fail, unfortunate to see.
I dont give a horse's anus about PVP, but i know yall who do are running on bonemeal and vampire dust. This just wont be that kind of game.
I’ve been playing this on and off for these 10 years and even took a 4 year break from the game because of this exact reason. The PvP was super laggy and repetitive and they weren’t doing much to improve it. Adding more pve for people that play just to PvP felt like a slap in the face. ESO pvp combat system is one of the best I’ve played and truly feels rewarding to kill an opponent using your skills and experience. Since returning to eso I’ve enjoyed being in cyrodil and battlegrounds but it’s truly because I’ve been gone from it for so long. But now that I’ve been back playing for almost a year again i feel that want for more PvP options like there is for Pve. You have questing dungeons delves arenas trails world bosses ia and the options to do those things at a higher level but with PvP there’s, well you know what they are. I hope they see that the PvP is worthy of love cause the community for it is vast and starving for something fresh and new. 🫡👍🏽