Expelled Calvary Chapel Bible College - CCBC - Part 2 of 3

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  • @jonathanbouler5604
    @jonathanbouler5604 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Standing fast in the truth! It really does seem as if genuine Bible believers are a very small group.

    • @Right.Divider
      @Right.Divider  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, we are small compared to the people who claim to be Bible believers.

  • @davidmisner6372
    @davidmisner6372 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im late to the party, did you continue your education after this?

    • @Right.Divider
      @Right.Divider  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, I try to read God's Word every day.

  • @MrWhitelightning73
    @MrWhitelightning73 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wrongly dividing the word of truth? I think that is called mixing law and grace🙄

    • @Right.Divider
      @Right.Divider  8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yep. I have written a rebuttal of Ironside's paper of wrongly dividing the word of truth.

  • @johnrobinson6421
    @johnrobinson6421 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My question is, why would you want to attend a bible college, you don't believe in?

    • @Right.Divider
      @Right.Divider  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think I answered that in the video. If not, the reason was it motivated me to study the Bible, and I did learn a whole lot from the first teacher I had in the college.

  • @jongle9261
    @jongle9261 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brian Brodersen [spell] resigned later on from the calvary association from the actual Council and I wonder if some way this is why that he saw things but it can be a coincidence too/ he is now heading the split off organization which has lots of churches in it , but i wonder about it because the way the now association condemns Brodersen . A lot of people will only go by what one side says like if a leading pastor gives others their conclusion since they are looked up to for all answers . A CC member would say I am not right with the Lord just like I would do several years ago in my attitude towards someone against calvary chapel .
    They had that attitude towards me when I merely called on the phone one day talking about God's grace that we are saved by grace , which I was bothered by churches in general rejecting it seems . I saw CC will use other local denominations against you that you were a part of because they threatened to me with that by saying they will look into my background , but I left church groups elsewhere because of false Christians/ apostates there since the 1980's . Seems like correspondence was going on between one group in my rural town and CC about me as a problem from what a southern baptist elder said about me contacting CC WHEN CALVARY chapel was still okay enough . And I am simply in scripture to grow in knowledge and love studying God's word as I did when I was part of CC years ago when I defended them if necessary . Sadly in that I will not have very many friends and I am almost on my own in this .I cannot expect an apology to myself from this . Because many regular churches will use a harsh discipline on people or treat one like if they are apostate . If CC is in cohoots with Roman Catholic groups that is a red flag and in that idea I remember when they spoke against the RCC years ago and was very clear . My attitude now at the world in general is because I reject all things part of post modernism and reject all neo-paganism / I now recall that there were Wiccan 'Christians' and neo -pagans ones in Crosswalk dot com allowed to almost teach their ideas , which was alarming and of the apostasy we are seeing .People talk like WICCA is harmless and a few Christians did . I am taking a wild guess Wicca infiltrated churches is why .BUT you will get flak for going against Wicca without being defended by those against it. I think many claiming to be so spiritual will worship the Antichrist soon .

  • @carrienottingham5215
    @carrienottingham5215 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude, they just don't want the move of the Spirit there! You exposed it with your paper on Acts 2. By you pressing your stance, they must have figured you would be a holy roller hot head and were going to wash their hands of you. Get ovet it and move on. I am sorry this happened to you. But you weren't the only one. Hope you are in a good place now. God bless!

  • @eddiemoney61
    @eddiemoney61 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    talk about religion & politics you going to always come up with a disagreement.

  • @bror.9044
    @bror.9044 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I guess what you said in this video answers partly what I asked in the first video. Sorry you were kicked to the curb about something you didn't even agree to in the beginning. I believe if you accept something, then you accept it and even if you do not fully agree, you accept something as long as something is not harming the congregation. For example some congregations are more strict on dress code, to me that isn't a problem, Bible principals are clear about how our modesty should reflect in our clothing. But other churches are very loose on that almost a bit too lax, like CC. However to me its not a big deal either way, I prefer to dress fine to church to promote a dignified look, like I actually care about serving God in a Holy way. Jesus said we clean the inside, and the outside would become beautified also. This is just an example.

    • @Right.Divider
      @Right.Divider  10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for your comments. At the time, I did not have a church that agreed with me, so, I just kept quiet about my disagreements. The only reason the issue was brought to the forefront was because they did it. I never sought to make a big deal out of the difference.

  • @johnrobinson6421
    @johnrobinson6421 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You haven't proven you interpretation of rhe scriptures presented

    • @Right.Divider
      @Right.Divider  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This video was about me being expelled, not about proving the scriptures to be true. I have 4,000 preaching videos on this channel. I'm sure at least one of them covers the scriptures mentioned. If not, let me know. You will also need to let me know what scriptures I covered, since it has been 11 years since I made this video.

  • @MrWhitelightning73
    @MrWhitelightning73 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Catholic lawyer ... Yikes😳

    • @Right.Divider
      @Right.Divider  8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah, Calvary Chapel is a mixture of Pentecostal, Baptist, and Catholic all rolled into one.

  • @aragornsargonath6793
    @aragornsargonath6793 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    They don't have a problem with "doctrinal differences" with you. You're bringing disunity with your personality. You have a very black and white attitude towards scripture and life in general. Your point of view is a very legalistic point of view of Christianity and that's the issue they have. You're not expressing mercy, grace, forgiveness, etc. I actually find (from what you described) that Calvary Chapel followed the scriptures in how they approached you. You mentioned that you sued them and the Bible is very, very clear about believers not suing each other.

    • @Right.Divider
      @Right.Divider  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Actually, the situation is quite the opposite. When I joined, they had me sign a statement of faith, and they said in that statement that they welcome everyone who has a sincere love for Jesus, even if they do not agree with all points in the statement. I agreed with all points in the statement and I have a sincere love for Jesus. Yet, they kicked me out. Psalm 15:4 says that the one who shall dwell upon the Lord's holy hill is the one who "sweareth to his own hurt, and changeth not." Therefore, Calvary Chapel should have kept me in the college, because they swore to me that they would do so.
      I did not bring disunity. I never brought up any doctrinal differences. The differences were discovered in a paper I wrote after having attended for 7 years. I wanted to continue in the college and never bring up any differences, but they are the ones who tried to force me to change my beliefs and kicked me out when I would not, even though their own statement said that I was welcome. That is showing a lack of mercy, grace, forgiveness, and a lack of keeping their word.
      I only sued them so that the head of Calvary Chapel, Chuck Smith, would find out and right the wrong of me being kicked out. This is a very honorable thing to do so that he would be aware of the Bible College breaking their word toward me. Instead, he discarded the case and had the dean of the college handle it. I then dropped the suit. With regarding to lawsuits, I Corinthians 6:7 says, "Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded?" This shows that Calvary Chapel, even if I was wrong, should have allowed me to continue in the college. I did not mind myself being defrauded and suffering wrong, but I wanted to give Calvary Chapel the opportunity to obey God's Word, and I wanted a chance to correct false doctrine so that they would teach correct doctrine. Doctrine is of utmost importance since God's will is for all men to be saved and come unto the knowledge of the truth (I Timothy 2:4).

    • @aragornsargonath6793
      @aragornsargonath6793 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Right.Divider Your response just proved my point on why they expelled you. You're more focused on a piece of paper that you signed other than focusing on what the Bible says. Did it just fly over your head I just told you that the Bible expressly states for believers not to use each other? Look up 1 Corinthians 6.

    • @Right.Divider
      @Right.Divider  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@aragornsargonath6793 The Bible says that the one who shall dwell upon the Lord's holy hill is the one who "sweareth to his own hurt, and changeth not." (Psalm 15:4). Calvary Chapel swore to me that I could stay in their college as long as I had a sincere love for Jesus. They kicked me out. Therefore, Calvary Chapel disobeyed scripture.

    • @aragornsargonath6793
      @aragornsargonath6793 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Right.Divider Start singing the song from Frozen, "Let It Go" and that's the spiritual message that Calvary Chapel expelled you for....you can't simply let it go.

    • @Right.Divider
      @Right.Divider  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So, if Calvary Chapel disobeys scripture, it is no big deal. It is only if I disobey scripture that counts. Calvary Chapel is never wrong.

  • @ZechCarter
    @ZechCarter 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wow you are just so amazing. i would love to have it all figured out like you do.... you're full of pride.

    • @Right.Divider
      @Right.Divider  10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's called having confidence in God's Word.

    • @ZechCarter
      @ZechCarter 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's called not knowing what you're talking about and being blinded by truth. You go against your own logic so many times in your story. You're nuts dude

    • @Right.Divider
      @Right.Divider  10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Zech Carter
      Please show me from scripture where I am "nuts".

    • @jongle9261
      @jongle9261 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The reason why people who believe in Christ want to know much of truth when they do is so in the future they guard themselves against against being reprobate themselves to stay tight with the Lord and close to Him . This is what I had to do in my military town as a civilian . It is possible that those following all wrong teachings will be made reprobate by God one day if they stay in it when he has warned them a time or two . People might have pride , but many are trying to stay true or check things out enough and not thinking to compromise or get flaky and wishy washy.

  • @MrGonzalezGT
    @MrGonzalezGT 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You sound like you are lying man. You should've just turned the other cheek just like Jesus did if you were indeed exelled from CC Bible College, did not Jesus called us to be humble and meek?.. What is your point of making these videos btw? Is it a way of revenge against CC??

    • @Right.Divider
      @Right.Divider  10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The point of making these videos is to expose false doctrine being taught by Calvary Chapel and to show the truth of God's Word rightly divided to a Calvary Chapel audience.

    • @uriellacortez1268
      @uriellacortez1268 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Right Divider