The Problem With Elliot.

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  • Elliot, a very popular Stardew Valley Husband. But something isn't right. So today, we're going to figure out the problem with Elliot.
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  • @yawaka400
    @yawaka400 ปีที่แล้ว +9049

    His toxic trait is that he's always facing sideways

    • @nosecultakathenorthernstar
      @nosecultakathenorthernstar ปีที่แล้ว +445

      IKR
      LIKR BRO WHAT ARE YOU HIDING

    • @jieyeyeyeeeyeye
      @jieyeyeyeeeyeye ปีที่แล้ว +422

      @@nosecultakathenorthernstar bros probably asymmetric as fuck fr

    • @nosecultakathenorthernstar
      @nosecultakathenorthernstar ปีที่แล้ว +551

      @@jieyeyeyeeeyeye just like “GASP THE FARMERS COMING” *turns his head to the side*

    • @perfectheart7010
      @perfectheart7010 ปีที่แล้ว +268

      @@nosecultakathenorthernstar "Hey sweetie...how come I never get to see the other half of your face-"

    • @LocalSimp2744
      @LocalSimp2744 ปีที่แล้ว +123

      It's all about the dramatic flair LOL

  • @mocha8323
    @mocha8323 ปีที่แล้ว +3423

    Elliott: HOLY SH** THE FARMER IS COMING
    *turns sideways*

    • @hitsugatatsuro9978
      @hitsugatatsuro9978 ปีที่แล้ว +499

      "You will see my good side, and my good side ONLY."

    • @somebodyspetbug
      @somebodyspetbug ปีที่แล้ว +57

      LMAO

    • @darcysv
      @darcysv 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

      HE GIVES US THE SIDE EYE

    • @OmniOrchid
      @OmniOrchid 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@hitsugatatsuro9978funniest joke ever (100% legit, my evidence? Trust me bro)

    • @Jesicaah
      @Jesicaah 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@hitsugatatsuro9978 LMAOO

  • @dragonlily187
    @dragonlily187 ปีที่แล้ว +1850

    Elliot is actually the best husband because when you get married he tells you to just let him know if there are any spiders in the house so he can catch them and bring them outside

    • @Rip.Kurt-1994
      @Rip.Kurt-1994 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      but i love spiders-

    • @Jalarena
      @Jalarena 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Spiders are my favourite though

    • @Imauser88
      @Imauser88 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Bruh u can do that yourself

    • @dragonlily187
      @dragonlily187 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

      @@Imauser88 I have never seen a spider in my Stardew valley house there is no alternative than taking his word for it

    • @Imauser88
      @Imauser88 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@dragonlily187 loll

  • @alleydoesstuff4147
    @alleydoesstuff4147 ปีที่แล้ว +2134

    the thing about Elliot’s boat scene is that you won’t even get that scene unless you’re already dating him and pursuing his ten heart event, so the assumption that you want to kiss your fictional boyfriend is kinda implied

    • @grossberglawoffices9910
      @grossberglawoffices9910 ปีที่แล้ว +170

      Yes! But also after the trembling line and the option to say you’re uncomfortable can also put it in a different context, so I guess whatever option you pick can be interpreted in different ways.

    • @imsotiredofthiscrap2341
      @imsotiredofthiscrap2341 ปีที่แล้ว +162

      i agree that the “you’re making me uncomfortable” dialogue option is what makes the whole thing creepy to me

    • @meiru2453
      @meiru2453 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +67

      @@grossberglawoffices9910 Isnt that because the game lets you choose to bail?

    • @sqolk
      @sqolk 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      ​@@meiru2453Most townies come closer slowly, that's the option to bail.
      Elliot straight up kisses you or whatever he did in a heartbeat without consent or a way to bail- there's a difference, sadly. :/

    • @satunbreeze
      @satunbreeze 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +129

      However, if you choose to say you're uncomfortable he immediately backs off and apologizes. I think he's just living with his head in the clouds- doing what he thinks is the most romantic in the moment. In real life obviously that's pretty toxic- but this is pretty clearly an idealized romance considering the whole "you're trembling" part. Your character doesn't need to have been written to do that in the first place 😂

  • @fr0gmouthz
    @fr0gmouthz ปีที่แล้ว +2004

    It's definitely like an internal voice thing, I always read Elliott as sweet and caring, but just socially awkward when it comes to new people. But I see a lot of people think he's really a pretentious asshole. Also, about the boat thing, a lot of love interests do that. Harvey literally brings you up in a small airballoon thousands of feet in the air. Sebastian brings you to the middle of nowhere, Haley locks you in her room, Shane brings you to a city, you know nothing about. It's a weird thing to get mad about when Elliott is probably the kindest about the rejection.

    • @lazer_kat_4673
      @lazer_kat_4673 ปีที่แล้ว +221

      FINALLY SOMEONE WHO GETS IT

    • @truthseeker9249
      @truthseeker9249 ปีที่แล้ว +365

      THANK YOU!!!!! And besides everyone should be happy that Elliott is the only person we can express CONSENT to. Elliott is the only person we are allowed to say no to when they go for that first kiss. And again he takes it like a man and immediately backtracks. He doesn't get aggressive or anything like that. He truly is a gentleman.

    • @semidecent4395
      @semidecent4395 ปีที่แล้ว +176

      @@truthseeker9249 exactly, I think the fact you’re able to back out is a testament to how understand Elliott as a person actually is, despite dating you up until that point he immediately listens to the player and stops. I’ll admit it was a strange gameplay choice to only have that option for his event, it makes me wonder how Concerned Ape goes about writing them

    • @YAHOOYIPPEE
      @YAHOOYIPPEE 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

      Doesn't Shane take you to Zuzu City? He also apologized for jumping at kissing you and your character initiates the second kiss.

    • @languid-4535
      @languid-4535 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

      @@truthseeker9249you know, that’s actually a great point and I now agree- I didn’t even think about how the others get upset you’re right he’s kind and is more worried about your comfort than getting rejected.

  • @theoryfoxes1879
    @theoryfoxes1879 ปีที่แล้ว +3557

    Since this video is pretty much a why you dislike Elliott, here are my reasons for liking him:
    1. I like the way he speaks.
    2. He is very sweet, even before you marry him.
    3. Follows his dream of being a writer even after you marry him.
    4. He does become less of an asshole with others.
    5. Has a bloody miniture crab in his pocket.
    6. Cares for the enviroment.
    7. Plays the piano.
    8. He is pretty romantic.
    9. Elliott is pretty much the typical love interest in a book and I've read a lot of books. He kinda reminds me of the book version of Howl from Howls Moving Castle.

    • @froggy5748
      @froggy5748 ปีที่แล้ว +525

      And my favorite reason, he has long hair and long haired boys are extra cute fr

    • @mskittygemma
      @mskittygemma ปีที่แล้ว +366

      10. He has long hair

    • @HeyIAmAlex
      @HeyIAmAlex ปีที่แล้ว +208

      He also helps around farm a lot after you marry him

    • @Rikrobat
      @Rikrobat ปีที่แล้ว +140

      As a non-Elliot person, I always love reading the reasons he resonates with other people. Makes me appreciate the details I might have missed due to first-impression issues. ❤️

    • @swaglord102
      @swaglord102 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@froggy5748 fr

  • @vanyadolly
    @vanyadolly 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +505

    It blows my mind how people can be upset about Elliot kissing the farmer on a romantic date, after you've asked him to date you. 😭 Why are we assuming it's nonconsensual? If it is, you can tell him as much and he stops.

    • @MindSamurai94
      @MindSamurai94 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +99

      Literally some people have never been on a date or been spontaneously kissed and it shows. He’s not an alien facehugger, he’s a romantic date who’s kissing you and it even gives the option to reject him for it. I can’t with people.

    • @pinku9749
      @pinku9749 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      fr also that comment about how he doesn't help with the farm when he literally does just not everyday lmao

    • @mlp-violet-star
      @mlp-violet-star 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I've literally gotten this cutscene after proposing to him.

    • @vanyadolly
      @vanyadolly 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@pinku9749My fences were pristine while I was married to Elliot

    • @thatoneelfnamedaiko4737
      @thatoneelfnamedaiko4737 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      I think it more of how fast and sudden it was compared to others with a slow kiss as well as the replies to can give him in that scene that just puts some off. Plus, different people move at different paces in their relationships. Also dude states he purposefully over exaggerates in this video to try to add to the commentary to make an entertaining video.

  • @uwufemboyuwu5658
    @uwufemboyuwu5658 ปีที่แล้ว +1382

    Reading all the comments hating on him for the way he talks or missing social cues confused me so much because I’m autistic and loved that about his character and it made him my immediate favourite.

    • @npc-333
      @npc-333 ปีที่แล้ว +94

      im autistic too, but god i hate elliot
      it’s mostly because he seriously reminds me of Lucius Malfoy and i cant forgive him calling Gus “bartender”
      like his dramatic flair is cute honestly but hes out of touch with reality imo /nm

    • @clawcakes
      @clawcakes ปีที่แล้ว

      he's the strange autistic /j

    • @lazer_kat_4673
      @lazer_kat_4673 ปีที่แล้ว +177

      @@npc-333 i always saw his dramatic flair more as him trying to seem cool and like less of a nerd, aswell as him trying to mimic charachers from stories he likes bc he doesn't understand social cues and is trying to seem more "normal"

    • @npc-333
      @npc-333 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      @@lazer_kat_4673 thats totally fair! and i love how he follows his dreams even after marriage, his storyline is pretty good as well. however, i picked the alcoholic chicken guy and cant force myself to pick someone else :,) /lh

    • @lazer_kat_4673
      @lazer_kat_4673 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@npc-333 honestly, i can respect that

  • @lauraalaughing671
    @lauraalaughing671 ปีที่แล้ว +893

    I mean Harvey does it worse. You can swim away, but you can't fly away

  • @erikapotgieter2221
    @erikapotgieter2221 ปีที่แล้ว +546

    Honestly, Elliot is the least problematic of the Stardew bachelors. Yeah he uses big words and is, honestly, socially inept, but once you marry him, he's pretty positive in general. There's no jealousy or codependency. He's low maintenance considering the only things you actually need to give him loved gifts is a crabpot and a pomegranate tree. As someone who reads a lot and also writes as a career, I find his dialogue pretty charming.

    • @Bushwhack-lmao_xD
      @Bushwhack-lmao_xD 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      yeah hes the reason i have a big ol pomagranite tree on my farm
      i uhhh
      i logged onto the wrong save and as soon as i realized that the tree was already fully grown 😅
      soooo i hope shane likes pomagranites :)

    • @Justyournomalmusic
      @Justyournomalmusic 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      Finally someone who actually love his dialogues because I'm a novelist myself I just rant to him all day when we are married 😭

    • @leighsnerdlife
      @leighsnerdlife หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      What I loved was the letters he sent home while on his book tour. So sweet!

  • @maddkatclare1320
    @maddkatclare1320 ปีที่แล้ว +2579

    Nino: “omg it’s so amazing that Leah keeps her artistic endeavors after you marry her, perfect wife.”
    Also Nino: “ELLIOT, HOW DARE YOU WRITE AFTER MARRYING ME, YOU PRETENTIOUS A$$HOLE?!”
    Lololol
    In all seriousness, I get the issues people have with Elliott, and this may be unpopular, but I never read him as pretentious when I played. Dramatic, yes, and a bit over-the-top, but I honestly took a lot of what he says as not quite knowing how to act socially, so his “gentleman act” is more a safety blanket. I compared the kiss on the boat Elliott does to the kiss the farmer does with Haley in her dark room - he just goes for kissing his partner on a romantic boat ride, which I (as the farmer) wanted for them lol.
    He mentions later on that he’d been there for a year but didn’t really feel close to anyone and wanted a friend, and I got the impression it’s because people think he’s weird/probably too dramatic lol. As someone who got rebuffed for coming off as “too intense” or “weird” a lot growing up, I related.
    I like that if you don’t like what he says or how he acts, he apologizes, and when you marry him, he’s an incredibly sweet husband. He compliments the farmer all the time on their talents/looks, expresses gratitude for what the farmer does, and helps out like the other spouses too.
    AND IM JUST A SUCKER FOR THOSE LUSCIOUS LONG LOCKS, OKAY?! LET ME LIVE!!! 😂
    Thank you for the vids ❤

    • @Rikrobat
      @Rikrobat ปีที่แล้ว +114

      Thank you for this interpretation! I’m one of those people who considers Elliot pretentious, and the scene with Gus always bothered me. Even if he doesn’t have many friends after a year, he goes to the bar every week; speaking to Gus that way when he’s already said that he’s busy, I just couldn’t bring myself to like this character (not even with the mindset that he’d improve his ways). But still, I always appreciate reading different perspectives on other characters to see if there’s something I was missing~ 😊

    • @maddkatclare1320
      @maddkatclare1320 ปีที่แล้ว +135

      @@Rikrobat totally valid! Thanks for your point of view too. :)
      I don’t like Shane for similar reasons - it’s hard for me to get past how much of a jerk he is for so long, and even if you push through it, I had a hard time talking to him repeatedly when he very clearly tells you to leave him alone. 😂 like OKAY ILL RESPECT YOUR BOUNDARIES, GEEZ.
      But true - not a good scene for Elliott. Trying to be chivalrous to the farmer, came off as insensitive and rude to Gus. Like Thor smashing the cup. ANOTHAAA.
      Honestly, it feels like Elliott was written for all the girls who grew up wanting like a Mr. Darcy gentleman figure, and I totally fell for that lol.

    • @Rikrobat
      @Rikrobat ปีที่แล้ว +77

      @@maddkatclare1320 - I feel you on the Shane thing. I empathize with his struggles and would want to help him because he’s a human who deserves kindness and understanding, but I don’t vibe with the idea of romance with him. At least not without a long time where he works through his struggles while single.
      Well, that’s just it, right? Elliot isn’t much different than a lot of male love interests in the romance genre. He’s literally designed to resemble Fabio, a well-known heartthrob character. I had a very warped sense of “romance” and how to “be romantic” growing up because of the way most media handles romance, especially the romance genre itself. Part of me wonders if that’s an interpretation with Elliot: maybe takes lessons from books a little too seriously without considering how those responses don’t always fly in reality. 🙂

    • @SFulton
      @SFulton ปีที่แล้ว +58

      Yessss! I loved his cute poems, making [the farmer] coffee, feeding the animals, like he is the sweetest.

    • @lizard8749
      @lizard8749 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      I feel the same way. I'm quite pretentious myself. I've always had my head in the clouds and so I relate deeply with Elliot. He's got a good heart his friendship with willy is sweet. I don't think he's rich as much as he's poor but good at managing money. I mean his house is dusty as hell and small. He talks about crabs getting into his pockets and the like. He's like a Disney princess.
      Elliot isn't my favorite but he is my first romance. Personally I'm a massive Harvey fan so my type is weird.

  • @bagelhope4747
    @bagelhope4747 ปีที่แล้ว +706

    honestly i love that u can say stop kissing me im uncomfortable and it doesnt stop elliots path. it makes u not feel bad for choosing it

    • @user89389
      @user89389 ปีที่แล้ว +175

      Agreed! The penalty for it isn't even that big. You can make it back in like, 2-3 conversations. I don't really like to marry Elliot, but you gotta give the man some credit where it's due, he understands words like "stop", is okay with them, acknowledges it if he goes too far and apologises immediately instead of making up excuses. 👌You gotta love a man who understands consent even though he's fictional.

    • @hitsugatatsuro9978
      @hitsugatatsuro9978 ปีที่แล้ว +96

      Exactly! Fictional or no, people in the comments hating on him for making some mistakes, as if people never ever do that, screams judgemental to me. The guy is literally one of the most mature and emotionally well-adjusted bachelors in game. He's sweet, passionate, loyal to his dreams, caring to his friends, cheerful, thoughtful, and friendly. He can take a no, doesn't take slights too much to heart, and is just a big ol' fuddy duddy once you look beyond how dramatic he can be. It takes a helluva lot of effort and love to keep being romantic with someone that consistently for that long as well. Especially after kids. It's why I chose him over Shane and don't regret it.

    • @Bushwhack-lmao_xD
      @Bushwhack-lmao_xD 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      its a choice thatdoesnt matter cos the penalty is less than a heart sooooooo

    • @malayshamorgan3918
      @malayshamorgan3918 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Girl the farmer and Elliot are DATING at that point of the boat ride idk what the comments expected after you give him gifts and a bouquet???

    • @alejandrasanchez3022
      @alejandrasanchez3022 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      it wouldnt be weird though cause its supposed you two are dating

  • @Unfortunateghosts
    @Unfortunateghosts ปีที่แล้ว +501

    For some reason, when I first played, I instantly fell for him. He was so sweet, and I like the idea that he doesn't really know how to act more polite socially, because he grew up with an extremely posh family. I don't think him calling Gus "Bartender" was meant to be a "I'm better than you" thing or something, but it DID make me look sideways at him until I learned his full story lol.
    And he has a crab in his pocket.

    • @somebodyspetbug
      @somebodyspetbug ปีที่แล้ว +47

      The crab in the pocket best character in the game

    • @J4CKS0N_D34R3ST
      @J4CKS0N_D34R3ST ปีที่แล้ว +65

      Tbh I only just now learned that that was rude, I thought it was creepy to call workers by name if you aren't friends. Seeing as Elliott doesn't seem close to any of the other townspeople I assumed it would be seen as the normal title.
      Honestly, to me he read as someone who is extremely bad at social cues due to coming from an upper class family and for spending most of his time on passions. Thus, the only real reference for normal interaction he had would be books and poetry, which aren't the best reference, I learned most my personality from movie and shows when I was younger and I came across similarly pretentious.

    • @Bushwhack-lmao_xD
      @Bushwhack-lmao_xD 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      wait thats rude?
      he could just not know gus name
      bro it literally says he only has one friend and its willy
      poor dude :(

    • @Death_Is_Inevitable
      @Death_Is_Inevitable 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      yeah like, if i'm unfamiliar with someone or somewhere like a bar, I wouldn't call the bartender by anything else other than "bartender", too. That's how I, personally, was taught to be polite (also because I'm terrified of getting a stranger's name wrong lol)

    • @BikiBikiBoom
      @BikiBikiBoom 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You guys were sideways twins. I love that.

  • @AB-gh5be
    @AB-gh5be ปีที่แล้ว +452

    elliott's way of speech always seemed to me like someone who'd learned more from books than other people, truthfully. formal, flowery, unavoidably atypical, but not insincerely delivered. like, is it really pretense if it isn't an act? idk.
    i find elliott's treatment by the fanbase really interesting, honestly-he seems to court divisiveness simply by existing, and i can't help but wonder the why of it all. what is it, precisely, that makes this man such a contentious character? where does my reading diverge from that of someone with a more negative opinion? what _is_ that secret sauce?

    • @hitsugatatsuro9978
      @hitsugatatsuro9978 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      My thoughts exactly. The man is awkward, but let it not be said he was ever disingenuous. It seems to me that he must have led a charmed life before moving to the Valley. A rich family, very likely, but unsupportive of pursuing the arts professionally or at least, if it isn't lucrative. Wish CA expounded on his bg more. I truly think an air of mystique could have made him more likeable, even by a smidge. Or maybe the few lines that did describe his past *was* supposed to be that. Oof.

    • @vinnypizza
      @vinnypizza ปีที่แล้ว

      I always thought he had autism or a social disorder (lives alone in a shack, speaks to one person((maybe two counting willy)), has a strange way of speaking/missing cues, spends his days writing. Rather than communicating with people regularly he spends a lot of time writing and reading, you could assume that this has been a habit within his youth, thus he lacks the socialization skills that are important throughout the rest of your life)

    • @vinnypizza
      @vinnypizza ปีที่แล้ว +32

      It's a tiny bit ableist to dislike the way he speaks or make fun of it tbh, maybes it's a strange or biased take tho bc I have problems with the way I talk

    • @fluffyphoenix8082
      @fluffyphoenix8082 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      @@vinnypizza no as someone neurodivergent myself, I think you're right. Why is it okay to hate Elliott's way of talking, but suddenly if you hated someone for having a stutter, it's bad? Shouldn't BOTH of the above be bad? It feels a little ableist to me too, like Elliott is just socially awkward and talks in a somewhat unique way and... he's hated for it. Ugh.

    • @wonderlandzer0
      @wonderlandzer0 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This was side perfectly and exactly how I feel about him!

  • @finchblue7322
    @finchblue7322 ปีที่แล้ว +361

    People call him pretentious when he really isn't, tbh. He is very humble, and not trying to say he is better than anyone else.

    • @hitsugatatsuro9978
      @hitsugatatsuro9978 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      Exactly! He's a lil out of touch with reality and social convention (a big awkward nerd after my own heart), but when you tell him directly what's up, Elliott doesn't hesitate to own up and improve. I feel like CA made him to be a very verbal, communicative, "say it like it is" guy, which is how I like 'em.

    • @Windmelodie
      @Windmelodie หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I like how during the ice fishing festival, he's like "yeah I'm taking part, though I know I'm not gonna win, it's just more fun the more people join". He's brave enough to compete, knowing he can't outfish the literal fisherman of the town just for the sake of having a fun competition for others to watch. It's not much of a competition of only 2 people fish.

  • @undyingpixie
    @undyingpixie ปีที่แล้ว +352

    elliott did absolutely nothing wrong and you guys can never convince me that he deserves the hate he gets 👎👎

    • @BunnyLove5763
      @BunnyLove5763 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Fr the hate feels so forced and I don’t understand it at all.

    • @Justyournomalmusic
      @Justyournomalmusic 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      ​​@@BunnyLove5763highly agree I personally think that Elliot's over the top dialogue(so the Elliot haters called but I personally like it) is because he never spent time in the town much as we can see his visiting places
      -forest
      -beach
      -house
      He doesn't know anyone else much except for Leah who goes to the beach to paint and probably willy because they might have bumped to eachother for times or so but that's it the way he called Gus "bartender" is probably they don't know eachother much....and to Elliot probably it's not "appropriate" to call gus his name....and just called him as "bartender" as a safety blanket his a stressed and probably just probably has anxiety since we can see on how he acts his stuck in a fantasy world he wants to create with the farmer his just a stressed man who planned out his dreams
      + He waters our plants and give us coffee and crab cakes

    • @heyfella5217
      @heyfella5217 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      They just hate his magical fairylike whimsy

    • @keannabueno4903
      @keannabueno4903 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah but it's his opinion

  • @kiyotaka4388
    @kiyotaka4388 ปีที่แล้ว +140

    The thing with Elliott is that while most of the other characters allow for more insight into who they are and thus let you grow to like him, Elliott doesn't change that much so if you don't like him from the start, you're not going to like him. People who don't like Elliott read him as very egotistical or classist whereas people who do read him as more poetic and socially awkward. The way that you read him will put biases in your head about his actions and intentions which is why he's considered controversial. Neither interpretation is given the chance to be proven wrong, and therefore it leads to people either finding him sweet and romantic or finding him rude and creepy.
    If you dislike Elliott, there is never a change in him that will make you start liking him which explains why he's either adored or hated.

    • @Bushwhack-lmao_xD
      @Bushwhack-lmao_xD 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      huh :P
      thats cool :D
      u either love em or u hate em :O
      well i guess im on the love side 😋

    • @salysian
      @salysian 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Never agreed with a comment so much before, this proves how unique his character really is!

  • @cryptidwilbur
    @cryptidwilbur ปีที่แล้ว +189

    i think his character art doesn't do him justice tbh, if he looked different he wouldn't get so much hate. In fact, hes not much different then Leah. Artist moves from city to follow their artistic passion in a more natural environment, makes art dedicated to you, also kisses you without asking, peruses art after marriage. idk, its just a normal trope that they both share

    • @Bushwhack-lmao_xD
      @Bushwhack-lmao_xD 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      bro its a trope all the characters share
      shane has this too
      moved to take care of his god daughter
      and the same EXACT THING :-:

    • @eleanorcooke7136
      @eleanorcooke7136 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

      Also, by the point that you kiss, you're already in a relationship. He's kissing his boy/girlfriend.

    • @shuichisaiharasimp
      @shuichisaiharasimp 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      ​@@eleanorcooke7136EXACTLY
      i dont understand why people are getting so mad over him trying to kiss his partner ON A ROMANTIC DATE

    • @reallydeja
      @reallydeja 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@eleanorcooke7136Literally

    • @Kidneyjoe42
      @Kidneyjoe42 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      But on the other hand, if he looked different he also wouldn't get so much love. He's my favorite bachelor and I don't think that would be the case if he didn't look like Fabio.

  • @tylerhilpisch7850
    @tylerhilpisch7850 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    "Bro live is house in the middle of nowhere and i cant get in"
    yeah its called boundaries and not letting a stranger in their house

    • @BikiBikiBoom
      @BikiBikiBoom 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Very true, but I think he was talking about how it relates to all the other characters letting you enter their house. But seriously, Pelican Town needs to learn the art of safety, security, and boundaries. I can literally force feed Sebastian sashimi by breaking into his house, then his room while he's sleeping with no prior notice, and then walk up to his bed and bug him.

  • @CaspianArk
    @CaspianArk ปีที่แล้ว +152

    Elliott is literally my comfort character… i see him as autistic. His personality is very understandable. I struggle with socializing just like him

    • @inumizuno
      @inumizuno 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      WE STAN AN AUTISTIC MAN

    • @sanyasalat
      @sanyasalat 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      i recently got into SV and i also got an impression that he is one!

  • @hitsugatatsuro9978
    @hitsugatatsuro9978 ปีที่แล้ว +450

    Fictional or no, people in the comments hating on Elliott for making some mistakes, as if people never ever do that, screams judgemental to me. The guy is literally one of the most mature and emotionally well-adjusted bachelors in game. He's sweet, passionate, loyal to his dreams, caring to his friends, cheerful, thoughtful, and friendly. He can take a no, doesn't take slights too much to heart, and is just a big ol' fuddy duddy once you look beyond how dramatic he can be. So he's a little out of touch with reality at times and can base too much of what he does based on what he reads -what, that can't be changed? The man welcomes improvement, humble as he is.
    It takes a helluva lot of effort and love to keep being romantic with someone that consistently for that long as well. Especially after kids. It's why I chose him over Shane and don't regret it.
    Edit: Shane is still a sweetheart though and I plan to marry him on another save where I embrace my trashy self and we can be trashy and grow into versions of ourselves we both like *together.*

    • @tr0j4njunky4rd
      @tr0j4njunky4rd ปีที่แล้ว +47

      This is my exact same thoughts abt all of this, I feel like he's neurodivergent in some aspect, like getting immersed in his own interests as much as to give him a different speaking way, and how bad he is at getting social cues since he's always in his own world and basically only goes out to go to the library or buy groceries

    • @ghostwormies
      @ghostwormies ปีที่แล้ว +3

      you GET it

    • @Bushwhack-lmao_xD
      @Bushwhack-lmao_xD 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yep i picked shane first tho becuz i just
      i like trashy characters lol (i kinda like linus and pam for that reason too)
      but im working on a new save where i go for elliot insted :)

    • @fbidumbbee
      @fbidumbbee 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      THIS. thank you.

    • @Nebula-wo2xp
      @Nebula-wo2xp หลายเดือนก่อน

      if you marry shane, get the trash catalogue and match the house with his roome lmao :3

  • @Rikrobat
    @Rikrobat ปีที่แล้ว +1145

    The scene that gave me a negative impression of Elliot since 2016 is the bar scene with how he speaks to Gus. No matter how distant he feels with the town, he’s gone to the festivals for at least one year and is at the bar once a week. I refuse to believe he didn’t know Gus’s name; calling him “bartender” in some kind of grand gesture was an immediate turn-off.
    With the boat scene, I think the big issue is that the graphics make the kids look sudden and unexpected. In Sebastian’s scene, I recall the line “you know what I’m saying, don’t you” after he confesses his feelings to the farmer. At which point, he slowly moves closer and the farmer moves to accept either a hug or kiss (depending on your interpretation). Seb doesn’t actually ask, but the visuals imply consent because of the farmer being okay to accept. With the Elliot scene, it’s quick and then the reaction from the farmer is either positive or “you’re making me uncomfortable.” Although, let’s be real: suddenly kissing the love interest without asking is a staple in the romance genre in all media. So, perhaps Elliot shouldn’t look to those kinds of books for relationship advice. 😂😂
    Thank you for another fun video, Nino!

    • @wulfbana
      @wulfbana ปีที่แล้ว +142

      calling out to someone like "Bartender! O Bartender!" is the posh version of snapping your fingers to get a waiter's attention imo 😬

    • @jasperjazzie
      @jasperjazzie ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @@wulfbana is it really that serious?

    • @froggy5748
      @froggy5748 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      Honestly I really wish they’d just change Elliot’s storyline so he says “Gus” instead of bartender and I wish the scene where he kisses you just has a bit of dialogue that goes “(farmer’s name)… can I kiss you?” And you have options for like “yes”, “no”, or “ew, no!”, and if you say yes then you’ll have the dark screen then the kiss, if you say no then he’ll just continue with your normal boat ride and lose no friendship, and if you say ew no then you lose friendship with him and the cutscene ends immediately lol

    • @missliv.404
      @missliv.404 ปีที่แล้ว +115

      I honestly thought he´s just trying to be cool or something when he said "bartender", and make it sound more serious like yes we´re having some kind of date, not getting drunk af in a bar in the middle of the day

    • @Rikrobat
      @Rikrobat ปีที่แล้ว +43

      @@missliv.404 - I agree with your interpretation, but it doesn’t really change how it bothers me since Gus is clearly busy and his expression doesn’t reflect him being okay with being called “bartender.” Whatever Elliot’s intentions were, he was being rude and disrespectful of Gus’s time and of Gus himself.

  • @commandblockguru1381
    @commandblockguru1381 ปีที่แล้ว +391

    Okay, so I feel the issues with him kissing you on the boat don't really hold up that well just because he said you two have been friends for a while. Hell, one of Shane's post-marriage dialogues is him asking what exactly you two are together, plus right after that scene you can ask him to marry you, he'll say yes, so it's definitely implied that you two have dated for a long time, long enough for him to not have to ask consent to kiss you. I feel like the main issue with that scene is the fact that one of the response options is that you're uncomfortable, and you tremble, and I feel like if it was handled differently and it didn't feel very implied that your farmer was uncomfortable, he wouldn't be nearly as disliked as he is.
    Also, with the Gus scene, the man lives in a shack and hardly ever spends time in the town, do you know how many books and movies will refer to the bartender as 'bartender' if they're not an important character? A lot. My man just got that from his books and thinks he's being polite.
    I get people not liking him, since, yeah, he can be really dramatic and over-the-top, but he's literally WRITTEN to be all poetic and over-the-top, you actively said that he's written to fit the starving artist trope, but are characters of that trope not dramatic as hell? Plus, he compliments you constantly post-marriage.

    • @laila9043
      @laila9043 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      i totally agree with you on the implied uncomfortable-ness point. if that response option was added into other scenes where the farmer is kissed kind of out of nowhere--for example, sebastian's and harvey's--those characters would probably be getting questioned as well. elliot's cutscene should've just ended with the kiss, tbh.

    • @commandblockguru1381
      @commandblockguru1381 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      @@laila9043 After I wrote this comment, I saw another commenter say how there was also the factor that Elliot's kiss was shown to be sudden, including the screen flashing when he kisses you, which no other bachelors or bachelorettes do, so it also makes it seem like he does it out of nowhere, but also kisses out of nowhere is a common trope in romance books and he's literally the starving artist trope so- I mean I'm not saying that if that was their first kiss and Elliot and the farmer WEREN'T dating for a long time that would be ok, but come on.

    • @kavaler1471
      @kavaler1471 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      i disagree on the gus part he visits the saloon pretty often with leah, unless he learned how to speak to gus through Pam (and decided to forego his name) rather than literally anyone else he should probably know

    • @cursedpotato2272
      @cursedpotato2272 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      @@kavaler1471 I genuinely don't understand why is it rude that he called Gus bartender? It might be a cultural thing but where I live it rude and creepy to call someone their first name when you aren't friends especially when you only know them from their work like Elliott only knows Gus from going there they aren't friends or close at all.

    • @kavaler1471
      @kavaler1471 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@cursedpotato2272 it’s totally up to interpretation, but ive always thought that in a town of 18 maybe 19 people, that people would be more relaxed with each other
      but honestly the biggest issue I have with the scene now is that gus literally says he’s busy when the player walks in and then elliott just runs in and demands alcohol immediately
      i also find it a little weird that his order for you changes based on gender but idk maybe that’s a thing I just don’t get

  • @genuinelyjustJD
    @genuinelyjustJD ปีที่แล้ว +235

    I liked Elliot in the beginning because I imprinted on him- I was socially awkward, a bit dumb, ginger and an aspiring writer. I still am okay with him now, (I don't seem him as pretentious just asocial and ambitious), but I won't deny that he was the most boring romance interest I've ever pursued. Yeah once married he was sweet and loved dishing compliments, but there wasn't much story to him. I think he deserves a bit of a remake, and maybe then he'll be better.

    • @Bushwhack-lmao_xD
      @Bushwhack-lmao_xD 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yeah i kinda like my headcanons more than the actual characters
      its basically the characters but if they were more..
      r e a l

    • @ashtonraether5215
      @ashtonraether5215 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Agreed. I really expected more of his story, I like him as a character but don't feel like he has fulfilled much of his potential.

    • @eleanorcooke7136
      @eleanorcooke7136 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Him and Maru need a revamp.

  • @thewingedcheetahwolf2615
    @thewingedcheetahwolf2615 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +145

    Elliott: *kisses farmer without consent* Everyone: OMG EW NO Every other marriage canidate: *does the same thing* Everyone: OOOO spicy ;) ;)

    • @yourlocalcat-boy2564
      @yourlocalcat-boy2564 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      tbf most of them do it in a place with other people, elliott just boats us out to the middle of the ocean

    • @fbidumbbee
      @fbidumbbee 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

      ​@@yourlocalcat-boy2564harvey and the hot air balloon though...?

    • @fbidumbbee
      @fbidumbbee 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@yourlocalcat-boy2564harvey and the hot air balloon though...?

    • @Itz_flower710
      @Itz_flower710 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      @@yourlocalcat-boy2564 Haley?

    • @elirchi9214
      @elirchi9214 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

      lmao no. Harvey and his hot air balloon, sebastian taking you to a lone spot, hailey locking you in her room. your point...?

  • @spompanadel
    @spompanadel ปีที่แล้ว +198

    Elliot was the first character that caught my attention, and I ended up marrying him. I absolutely dont get why there's any controversy at all, nothing he does or says seems weird to me. He's super cute and I love that he doesnt give up on writing after marriage. The kiss on the boat was not creepy, but a logical consequence. He's by far my favorite character in the game.

    • @Bushwhack-lmao_xD
      @Bushwhack-lmao_xD 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      im mean honestly tho
      what did u expect when he said MAIDEN VOYAGE with a fancy boat on a fancy day when ur FREAKING DATING
      i kinda expected what was gunna happen with shanes ten heart cutscene
      i find it more adorable that they like farmer than WEIRD

    • @MrBackman85
      @MrBackman85 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Honestly he reminds me of how I acted, I get why some people find him a red flag, but he does kinda reminds me of myself since I don't know how to communicate either.

  • @SamiiSam128
    @SamiiSam128 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    People: hE kIsSeS wItHoUt CoNsEnt
    other Bachelors/Bachelorettes: *do it as well*
    Like people just need to admit they dont like Elliot and move on.

    • @keannabueno4903
      @keannabueno4903 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Haley doesn't kiss us without consent

  • @chelseatiffany5999
    @chelseatiffany5999 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    I always find it so funny that our character drinks like a thirsty 5-year old child

    • @ilovecats52fandom
      @ilovecats52fandom 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Elliott: *sips calmly*
      Farmer: *TWO-HANDED CHUGGING*

    • @Nebula-wo2xp
      @Nebula-wo2xp หลายเดือนก่อน

      FRRR- the farmer just has such toddler gremlin vibes and i'm all here for it

  • @1kokokala10
    @1kokokala10 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    To give Elliot the benefit of the doubt, there are some interactions and hints that people give that has a hard time being portrayed in pixel art. Also idk why people think Elliot watching the farmer is creepy. Lots of spouses do that. Or he was gently wated farmer up which again is hard to be portrayed in pixel art.

  • @jade4994
    @jade4994 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Elliott's schedule reminds me of Shane spending 4 hours plus standing in Pierre's store not buying anything, as if he's been sent there to spy by Joja 😆

    • @vanyadolly
      @vanyadolly 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He's my hubby of choice, but I usually don't even try to find him until fall/winter. 😂Then he spends a lot of the time in the library, which both cute and convenient.

    • @Bushwhack-lmao_xD
      @Bushwhack-lmao_xD 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@vanyadolly bro shane cant even be found in winter
      HE WORKS TILL 10 PM IN WINTER >:[

  • @grr5630
    @grr5630 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    as someone that overthinks every single one of my actions in stardew, i can really only agree on two things with you; the scene where he comes back, and the kiss on the 10 hearts scene
    but like, i can't really remember if any other bachelor/bachelorette asks or tells you that they're going to kiss you
    i have a single farm that i take seriously, and so far i can't really regret marrying elliott
    i think he has a lot to offer and to make him stand out a bit, but everyone's entitled to their own opinions
    if he were less formal then maybe he'd lose a big part of his original charm
    also i don't really think that anyone explicitly helps you with the farm apart from watering crops, giving water to your pet and fixing fences

    • @cetsa7120
      @cetsa7120 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      i think the real issue with his 10 heart is there was one, no sign he was going to kiss you, which all of the other marriage candidates display, and 2 no way for the farmer to leave the situation. let’s take harvey’s 10 heart event which would be a similar circumstance (isolated place, no way to leave) harvey confesses but allows the farmer to decide whether to kiss him or not. with elliott’s that option doesn’t exist, you can merely tell him you’re uncomfortable. i don’t hate elliott necessarily, to me he’s just a boring character who’s mad pretentious, but his 10 heart scene is just uncomfortable.

    • @amxterxsu138
      @amxterxsu138 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@cetsa7120 but you don't get the option to say no to harvey up there?? what are you on about

    • @Bushwhack-lmao_xD
      @Bushwhack-lmao_xD 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@amxterxsu138 bro my first file i ran into SHANE first thing
      and what sold me was that stubble on his chubby lil face :3
      so i PESTERED HIM EVERYDAY
      and then eventually
      i decided i wanted to date them so i did that (forcefully cos im socially awkward)
      and i swore id never marry them
      but uhh...
      we got a kid now :D
      plus also in shane ten heart event its just: YASS GOAL- **mwah**
      AIIEEE-
      **farmer mwah**

    • @igt-nj1gd
      @igt-nj1gd 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@cetsa7120 You get the option to tell Elliot that you're uncomfortable and he respects it and stops, and you only lose one heart because he actually cares about you and he doesn't break up with the farmer because of it. He's literally the only romance option I've married that doesn't get angry at me or gives me the cold shoulder for telling him off.

    • @igt-nj1gd
      @igt-nj1gd 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@cetsa7120 yet you're calling him creepy for kissing the farmer on a romantic date that you can only get when you ask him out? Have you never been on an actual romantic date before? He literally does not get mad at you for refusing him, and apologizes for doing something wrong.

  • @FlatAssTruther
    @FlatAssTruther 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +75

    When people get mad about his ten heart cutscene they always forget that you have to ask him to be your boyfriend to have access to that cutscene. You have to actively pursue interest in him. And that Harvey has the *exact* same situation, but with him you don't have an option to say 'no thank you', as if that's somehow better. Like, going by that logic Harvey is more "creepy" than Elliott. Sebastin also drives you out to the middle of nowhere on his motorcycle and kisses you. The only reason those two don't get called creepy for the exact same situation is that the fandom at large likes them, while a majoity fo the fandom dislikes Elliott for being unlikable or boring in their opinion.
    The only reason people find it "creepy" when Elliott does it is because they already dislike him as a character, which is fine! You don't have to like him, he's an acquired taste, I'm sure! However, some people don't realize that you don't have to invent a reason for a character to be "problematic" as some sort of weird justfication to not like them. You don't need that, I promise. You can just be like "you know what I think he's annoying/we don't vibe well" and that can be that. I don't like Sebastin as a charcter but I don't call what he did creepy because the same logic of having to actively pursue him that I applied to Elliott applies to him as well. It doesn't just magically disappear when I don't like him.
    Sorry for the rant guys! It's really fine to not like a character, I promise. It's just that this particular bit of "critiscim" always annoys me because it's so obviously hypocritcal, in my opinion. It also annoys me because it's sad that the fandom has made people think they need justifiable reasons to dislike fictional characters. It's really odd we can't go "They just aren't my cup of tea" and be done with it. I hope everyone who took the time to read this has a good day and it's fine if you disagree with me ❤

    • @rhinopoley
      @rhinopoley 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      I find it really confusing when people cite his 10-heart scene as why they dislike him because as far as I’m aware, Haley and Alex are the only two datable characters who *don’t* kiss you without asking. I could be wrong because I haven’t romanced most of the bachelorettes but it’s still a majority of them.
      Saying the farmer has “no escape” from the boat implies that their boyfriend suddenly kissing them during what he thinks is a romantic moment is some totally shocking act, except he backs off if you say you don’t like what he’s doing. The only way I could see things the way people say they are is if the farmer had previously set boundaries saying they didn’t want to be either kissed or touched without being explicitly asked, except that’s not an in-game event or option. Could it be uncomfortable? Absolutely, but the farmer hasn’t said or implied to him they want to be asked first before being kissed and therefore he wouldn’t know that’s a boundary they have.

    • @VikingMermaid
      @VikingMermaid 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I've always thought this. It's easy to just say "I don't like this character" and that's it, there's no need to invent a criminal history. 😂

  • @somebodyspetbug
    @somebodyspetbug ปีที่แล้ว +112

    Personally I think he's not the most fun to romance out of them all just based off of cutscenes and stuff, but he's the best to be married to because he has some of the nicest dialogue and, in my opinion, the best 14 heart event

    • @historymaven
      @historymaven ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I have just about married all of the dateable characters, and Elliott is the most pleasant spouse. The only time I have divorced was when married to Sebastian. He was a bummer.

    • @somebodyspetbug
      @somebodyspetbug ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@historymaven yeah, I like Sebastian but more to romance, after marriage he's just kinda sad and boring

    • @historymaven
      @historymaven ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@somebodyspetbug I had high hopes for Sebastian! But he was so miserable. Now I know what it’s like to be married to me. 😂

    • @somebodyspetbug
      @somebodyspetbug ปีที่แล้ว

      @@historymaven 😂😂😂

    • @miyazakiendo3743
      @miyazakiendo3743 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@historymaven omg I can relate I married him in my first save

  • @wonderlandzer0
    @wonderlandzer0 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    I always saw Elliott as a hopeless romantic and the type of person I would have fallen in love with when I was younger. I read a lot of romance novels growing up and his character is everything I wanted in a boyfriend. He's kind, affectionate, and just SO romantic in everything he does! Like, the 10 heart cutscene was so cute and it made me blush at the thought and care he put into a date. Idc I'm a ride or die Elliott fan 😂

  • @ashthenekogirl4305
    @ashthenekogirl4305 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    I feel like people wouldn't dislike Elliott's ten heart cutscene as much if the farmer didn't tremble, that was a weird thing to include

  • @blipblop8784
    @blipblop8784 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I didn’t really like him at first either but then his book reading scene made me fall for him. Like that man writes a novel based on what you like and even dedicates it to you 😭 if i weren’t such a Sam simp I would marry him

  • @avrilrowland1913
    @avrilrowland1913 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Watching this as a writer who stays inside all day, occasionally plays piano, and would kill to live alone in a shack by the beach is so funny. Constant 👁️👄👁️ Bonus points for me basically having the same hair as him.

  • @caitm4138
    @caitm4138 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    "I've been breaking my back on a farm" meanwhile his farm on this file lays fallow and untouched

  • @crhserenity
    @crhserenity ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I love Elliot. The romance, the poetry. I do have to agree that his loved gifts are expensive. However, I’m always able to catch a squid on the first year and put that in a pond and give him the ink as a gift.

  • @annecantgame
    @annecantgame ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Elliot likes Ink, and then rainbow shells you can get right off the oceans, he does like most of the gems, the amethyst and the earth crystal i believe too. They probably take a longer to get his hearts up but it works

    • @leodotlol
      @leodotlol ปีที่แล้ว +5

      it's completely possible to get him to 8 hearts with just fruit and jam and whatnot ( as long as the fruit isn't salmonberries )

    • @annecantgame
      @annecantgame ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@leodotlol I've gotten him maxed with just veggies and stuff but it takes a while. It's just pretty difficult to get them high enough to dance for the festival

    • @corvusfunghi
      @corvusfunghi ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i mean i pretty mich got him up to 8 hearts with parsnips, gems and then pomegranate when i got the chance

  • @kiri3833
    @kiri3833 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    The reason why I don't like Elliot (check notes) I have never married him

  • @targrhaenyra
    @targrhaenyra ปีที่แล้ว +24

    i will always believe in Elliot superiority. i usually marry the girls, (and then divorce everyone for haley.....) but out of bachelors i find elliot to be the sweetest and nicest husband i absolutely love him and never understood the hate lol it seems kind of forced to me

  • @Husbandofelliot
    @Husbandofelliot ปีที่แล้ว +210

    Excuse me. I’ve just started playing the video, and I’d like to say elliot is the most HANDSOME, most absolutely PERFECT man in history. He’s gorgeous, his beauty resembles that of an angel sent from the heavens. His beauty almost seems to transcend space and time itself, he’s THAT beautiful. His personality is amazing, he’s such a sweet man, and he’s the kindest person I’ve ever seen. He’s also got passion for what he does, I respect that. Hes amazing and how dare you tell me otherwise.
    Edit: thanks all of you for 100 likes??? Idk why this comment is getting this much attention lmao but thank you all :)

  • @dracofirex
    @dracofirex 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I didn't really see the 10 heart scene as being all that creepy or weird. Elliott knows what the bouquet means, it doesn't seem strange that he would want to kiss the person he's dating. He didn't seem like a pretentious jerk to me, but rather an artist who is so far gone in the world inside their brain that everyday functions are difficult. I found him easy to relate to, because I spend so much time in my thoughts that I've been labeled as cold and antisocial. I feel like he calls Gus "bartender" because he might not know Gus's name. Although he's been in town for a year, he deliberately isolates himself in an attempt to cure his writer's block. It's like he's trying to do things other writers have done to generate similar results, but he's finding that the approach other people take isn't working for him. He says he doesn't just want to be a lonely old hermit living by the sea, but he has trouble seeing that this is the narrative he's forcing on himself until you come along and force him to socialize lol. Your character also has him go outside of his box and do more things, making him remember how to actually talk to people. After a while he starts to drop the mask of an eccentric writer framing everything in dramatic prose and becomes more sociable and caring towards the town, loosening up while still remaining focused on his dream. He achieves that dream after adopting a way of life that suits him best, and gets that book tour! He's definitely more interesting when you spend more time interacting with him.

  • @kawaiiemolga
    @kawaiiemolga ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I love Elliott, he's romantic and sweet, and pretty dramatic, which I find funny, besides, he's got that beautiful hair that made me go "Yep! He's the one I'll marry!" when I first saw him XD

  • @sontaichou
    @sontaichou ปีที่แล้ว +26

    You don't understand Elliott at all. He won't let you into his house. Why?Would you let a wild stranger in just like that? It's not a bad thing, it's a precaution. Second, the way he talks to Gus is not condescending at all, Gus has a job as a bartender and how do you call him by his first name anyway? It's up to Gus to take offense or not. Thirdly, the fact that he has a writer's crisis is completely understandable. I don't understand what's wrong with Elliott just staring at the ocean all day. Fourth, what you find condescending about Elliott is not at all what it seems. He doesn't talk to you like that because he thinks you're a poor peasant, but because that's the way he talks. Ee has an attitude and pride, he tries to look good, he wears elegant clothes, the fact that he is sensitive to his hair is another matter. Everyone has their quirks. Fifth, he is at least talented in something other than writing, because he can play the piano. So even if his writing career didn't work out, he could still be a pianist. Sixth, what else would you talk about other than your book once you have a sense of success? At least he shares his joy with you, not sulking in the corner like the emo kid Sebby, because no one understands him. Elliott does not play the martyr that he has world pains, he stands on his heels and does fulfill his dreams. Seventh, he doesn't talk to you like someone he pulled out of his ass, he respects you and everyone else in town. For example, Leah and Elliott get together so often because they are both artists and understand each other's suffering. Eighth, the boat scene is really romantic, it's only scary for you that Elliott takes you to the middle of the ocean and confesses his feelings to you there. At least he has it in him to fix the boat....JUST FOR YOU!!! because he loves you, but you just whine that: "this is a psychopath who brought me here because I can't escape from here". Ninth time, even after marriage, he still cares about you, even if he has to go on his tour. He asks directly if it will be okay if he leaves? If you say no, he won't go on the tour, it all depends on you. Why? Because he loves you and doesn't want to leave you alone. He writes you a letter every day. Now I ask who the hell would still write to you EVERY BLESSED DAY to know what's with you and to let you know how he is doing. What is this if not fucking romance at the highest level???? Yes, romance is an important factor for us "elder"girls, but for you young people today, it doesn't mean anything anymore, this word doesn't exist for you and that's very sad. And lastly, Elliott at least helps around the house, feeds the animals, gives water to the dog or cat, fixes the fence and makes you coffee. Elliott is the MOST ROMANTIC CHARACTER in the entire game and you just call him a pompous asshole. This somewhere describes you, and this is your - "proof of poverty" as we say - that you think this way, it shows that you are still a child and cannot appreciate true love and romance. Thank you for the attention and have a nice day! Bye!

    • @riptideofthetrident.
      @riptideofthetrident. 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Period!

    • @fjordpitsky4486
      @fjordpitsky4486 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Womp womp Elliot is a bore

    • @riptideofthetrident.
      @riptideofthetrident. 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fjordpitsky4486 womp womp, stay mad furry

    • @thatoneelfnamedaiko4737
      @thatoneelfnamedaiko4737 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You know the dude purposefully over exaggerated his thoughts to add to the commentary right?

    • @pwincesskrissy
      @pwincesskrissy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fjordpitsky4486 you a bore

  • @Kirbmonster
    @Kirbmonster ปีที่แล้ว +73

    You'd probably get angry about Mr Darcy if you hate Elliot this much

    • @vanyadolly
      @vanyadolly 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Elliot is far more polite and considerate than Mr Darcy lol. He isn't prideful either. They're not similar characters at all.

    • @spotlightanimation6719
      @spotlightanimation6719 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@vanyadolly Mr. Darcy just has absolutely zero rizz or social skills tbh

  • @shadowlord437
    @shadowlord437 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    This is the thing about Stardew... I love the people can love or hate him. It’s amazing! Think about it... This game is so open to everyone... You get to choose who you like! Want someone who nice and a bit shy? Harvey or is your route. You want something fun and chill? Leah. Want something different and elegant? Elliot! But it’s up to you, the player- And that’s what is the best about all this.
    So stop fighting over who is best husbandos and/or wifus. 😂😂😂

  • @felixkrankenkilledmykids3122
    @felixkrankenkilledmykids3122 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Elliott is one of the most sweetest Bachelors stopp

  • @yesimdisguting5994
    @yesimdisguting5994 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    When I first played the game.
    I hated my first impression of the npc.
    The people I met when I started the game are Shane. Who literally talk shit, then Sebastian suddenly question my decisions why I choose pelican Town and abigail saying I'm not in the mood and Alex boisterous character.
    Yoy could guess how humiliated I was to be honest 😂
    Then I met elliot at the beach on his way home and just gave a welcoming words.
    Fell right then and there. 😂🤣
    Not only that I love story's, love reading books, I also write fanfiction too. So I found his character very appealing to me.
    And hes a long red hair man.
    And the crab 💕💕💕💕
    .....
    Oh!!! Very romantic when he send me letter when he's out of town. 💕💕💕 Hands down his my favourite.
    And the boat scene??
    Aren't all or most suitors going to kiss you?. I have multiple account, I married most suitors aren't they all kiss you? So I don't see the problem?

  • @skittycreamstar
    @skittycreamstar ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Elliot will always be my favorite character. He's so sweet. 💖

  • @localmenace3043
    @localmenace3043 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Ah, so that’s why I like him. He’s an introverted awkward writer.

  • @scarllanixie
    @scarllanixie 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    As a person who LOVES Elliott, I couldn't make it halfway through this video. Bro, just leave my misunderstood romantic alone. 😭

  • @MarianaAnaya-rd1ro
    @MarianaAnaya-rd1ro ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The coffee maker being out of bounds at 9:35 and the questioning if Elliott was able to reach is was really funny to me lol

  • @slipiest-adv_7000
    @slipiest-adv_7000 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Thanks for making this vid, I honestly need another pov to see Elliott, since I love him so much (to the level of making fanfics abt him) that I can't point out his flaws LOL.
    Now that I know, I found that his "socially unsupported" traits are actually what made me fall for him (especially the pretentious one to counter my low self-esteem)
    I love that ginger elf nevertheless

  • @Yohei-kw3mg
    @Yohei-kw3mg 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Elliot: "For once, I'm at a loss of words"
    Nino: "Thank God, I wish you'd stop speaking"
    got me diying

  • @signheart7520
    @signheart7520 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Elliott is the sweetest, I love that he is a writer and he is so sweet and romantic after you marry him. My real life husband is even more helpful and much sweeter but Elliott the best guy in the game.

  • @VikingMermaid
    @VikingMermaid 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I love Elliott so much, he's not only my favorite bachelor but my favorite character in the entire game. He's a writer (as a Literature student I love that), he's so sweet and romantic, he helps you out in he farm and he has a little crab living in his pocket. Also, the long hair... *chef's kiss*
    Something funny is that I never thought his way of speaking was pretentious. My first language is Spanish and the translation is so... chill? Like, the way he speaks is very normal, just some big words here and there. Reading him in English made me understand why people think that 🤣

  • @moysauce788
    @moysauce788 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    This actually kind of convinced me to choose Elliot LOL

  • @jazgarcia2014
    @jazgarcia2014 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I have never ever heard of asking to kiss someone😭 isn’t it just… if the moment is right do it? I have never asked or been asked. Maybe the ppl that mostly play this game just struggle with social cues. Which is a them problem regardless.

    • @tr0j4njunky4rd
      @tr0j4njunky4rd ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I'm pretty sure by the time he "tries" to kiss the farmer is after they give him the bouquet... WHICH MEANS YOU ARE ALREADY DATING, but what a coincidence, bc elliott's route is the only one where u are asked abt ur feelings from the kiss if I'm not wrong, none of this happened when shane kissed us totally out of a sudden in the gridball game, don't get me wrong, I love shane but I also love elliott and feel like most of the ppl use the event as an excuse for the hate they have towards him.
      Also, most of them mention how he takes u to the sea where you are helpless, BUT SO DOES HARVEY?? He fr takes u out in a hot air balloon and no one bats an eye😭😭

    • @jazgarcia2014
      @jazgarcia2014 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@tr0j4njunky4rd EXACTLY. I wish they would just say they don’t like him and move on😭. We don’t have to villainize him but if they’re going to anyways we might as well group the rest of them in there too.

    • @tr0j4njunky4rd
      @tr0j4njunky4rd ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@jazgarcia2014 I LITERALLY SAW SOMEONE ON TIK TOK CALL HIM A R4P1S7.... I WAS LIKE HUUUHH WHAT ELSE??? JUST SAY HE KILLED UR ENTIRE FAMILY AND ATE UR FOOD. Even when he kissed the farmer out of sudden it's bc he's the typical fabio archetype, man with long hair and romantic. Ofc the farmer acts surprised and u even get to pick why you were trembling in the spot, and even if you reject him he apologizes and moves on!

    • @tr0j4njunky4rd
      @tr0j4njunky4rd ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Anyways don't get me wrong I love harvey lmao😭😭

    • @jazgarcia2014
      @jazgarcia2014 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@tr0j4njunky4rd WHATTT??? DO THEY EVEN KNOW WHAT GHAT IS ATP😭 i hate the internet why would a video game character have to ask u permission to kiss u especially if you’re DATING. This is getting ridiculous I feel like I’m on tumblr again

  • @Livi-chan435-xq6vy
    @Livi-chan435-xq6vy 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Leah: has a house that you need two hearts to enter
    Nino: that’s ok
    Elliot: has a house that you need two hearts to enter
    Nino: HOW DARE YOU, YOU SIDE FACING MAN!!!!!

  • @kiyo_artsy
    @kiyo_artsy ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Ngl... Elliot makes me think of a fancier version of the Beast from Beauty and the Beast-

  • @majurebs.mainnacc
    @majurebs.mainnacc 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Elliot is the most beautiful babygirl in this universe, i will now ignore every red flag stated in this video and marry him.

    • @rose13red
      @rose13red 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tell us you’re single without telling us you’re single

    • @majurebs.mainnacc
      @majurebs.mainnacc 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@rose13red Literally

  • @Snicker7474
    @Snicker7474 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    People hating Elliott because he calls Gus "bartender" as if they are all so good at remembering someone's name 🤣 sit down.

    • @rose13red
      @rose13red 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s like calling a waiter Gaston. It’s pretentious and rude as hell

    • @Snicker7474
      @Snicker7474 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@rose13red It's not. He confesses he moved to the valley 1 yr prior to the farmer. He also is a poor artist and is Canon to not visit the bar frequently. It's also Canon He doesn't go on days it rains cuz he never leaves his cabin on rainy days, including days he would go to the bar. He also doesn't go to the bar if you have high affection with Leah, therefore he doesn't know gus, he barely knows gus, he likely isn't friendly with gus where calling someone by first name basis is not polite like in some cultures OR doesn't even know his name. Therefore not pretentious.

    • @3cherrybonbon
      @3cherrybonbon หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      For me, the fact he'd been writing for 8h prior to that says it all. The guy's exhausted after putting himself through pretty word vomit that he will probably end up throwing away! Been there, done that. He's out of it lmao

  • @everybodysfavhomo
    @everybodysfavhomo ปีที่แล้ว +8

    i think elliot is awesome because hes like howl and im a sucker for ghibli

  • @riellyroo
    @riellyroo ปีที่แล้ว +33

    His problem with Elliot:he can't brake into his house

  • @RoseOfDisdain
    @RoseOfDisdain ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Favorite thing: Elliott
    Nino: *finds a stardrop*
    The game: It's strange, but the taste reminds you of [favorite thing].
    Put the pieces together so I don't have to.

  • @myotiswii
    @myotiswii ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Elliot is hot tho

  • @elvie7079
    @elvie7079 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    And this was the story of how Nino burned down Elliot's shack

  • @NinoKito
    @NinoKito  ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Okay have you married Elliot and do you regret it? Everything in this video was recorded over on my twitch so if you wanna get involved head over there! ❤ thank yew 4 watching :3
    Twitch.tv/ninokito
    Twitch.tv/ninokito
    Twitch.tv/ninokito

    • @MoodlyDoodly
      @MoodlyDoodly ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes. He tells me about my natural musk every single day.

    • @hitsugatatsuro9978
      @hitsugatatsuro9978 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MoodlyDoodly I'm DEAD. XD He is a bit of a nose man indeed. Got a thing for smells and he can somehow sense if the day is a luck day with his shnozz.

    • @hitsugatatsuro9978
      @hitsugatatsuro9978 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don't regret marrying the funny, long haired, writer man, Nino. He's definitely one of the more boring to romance, but he is one of the more emotionally stable, mature, and communicative bachelors. He's just a lil stuffy and out of touch with people is all (feckin nerd ♡). Plus he is a super romantic husband even after 2 kiddos lol.

  • @pyechos
    @pyechos 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    now i understand better why his yandere mod is so good

  • @lovelydeath04
    @lovelydeath04 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Why does everyone hate Elliot?!😭

    • @EvelynandBreelee
      @EvelynandBreelee 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      His hair is atrocious

    • @Bushwhack-lmao_xD
      @Bushwhack-lmao_xD 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      becuz they think hes snobbish :,(
      but theres a difference between snobbish and FANCY/DRAMATIC
      i hate snobbish people too becuz i grew up a smol life in a smol apartment with me my sis my aunts dog and my parents (only for like 10 years tho)
      my stepmom says im like my dad for some reason :p

  • @VenoZmic
    @VenoZmic ปีที่แล้ว +7

    My apologies for liking hot anime men who have ginger hair and are friends with fishermen. my only weakness.
    the only downside to liking Elliott is that I probably have asthma so every time I look in his direction, I'll be gasping for air.
    (seriously though, I'd be talking to Elliott then he brings up a "Did you know that Willy likes diamonds?")

  • @FoxineStarYt
    @FoxineStarYt ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Of course everyone has different opinions on the 12 bachelors/bachelorettes that we can mary, but I suppose I like Elliot the most because of his poetic side- its hard to explain but I like reading and writing books too, and also he likes duck feathers, which are described as, "really pretty" in the item desc, ngl, I like those too. So... Ig I find a diff way to connect to him.

    • @thefloorist5169
      @thefloorist5169 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I like ducks, so I kind of feel the same way.
      And I don't see his use of language as being snobbish. I see it more as a sign that he grew up reading a lot of books and picking up on the way of speaking.
      And yes, he might try to hard on "the lonely artist" aesthetic at the beginning, but doesn't any other artist try to fit in a certain aesthetic because it works for some artists?
      And yes, he might like expensive stuff, but he is allowed to, even if he is poor.
      Sorry for the rant, I am feeling a bit defensive towards this video because I think his judgement is just wrong 😅

  • @JC.Booker
    @JC.Booker ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I marry Elliot every play through, I love him! 😂

  • @jiggerblayne
    @jiggerblayne ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I think Elliot is a Merman, probably has a palace under the sea.

  • @olympe7763
    @olympe7763 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Wow i think he really don't like Elliot LOL I have to admit, the way he act and speak are like he is from a book that was written 300 years ago, but is kinda cute in some way, the boat cut cene is a bit strange but in the kiss cenes I dont remember the others love interest asking before too ( or maybe I only have fall for the long and beautiful hair of him and dont see the real problem here and he written letter for the farmer, this is very cute)

  • @maxleyrae100
    @maxleyrae100 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Honestly, I am married to Elliot in my current game and It took me a while to start to love him but he’s so sweet and kind and just an amazing spouse overall. Also his spouse room is the most natural addition to the house imo

  • @finlockhart4572
    @finlockhart4572 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I'm incapable of noticing any issues with Elliot, because he's the only bachelor with long hair.

  • @leiathrix
    @leiathrix ปีที่แล้ว +49

    There is nothing wrong with the boat scene because to get to this point you have to confess your feelings to the bachelor so you are 100% officially dating. Elliot just creates a romantic amosphere for the date because he is extra ✨
    p.s. Harvey tho is even MORE extra lol kissing mid air sheeeeesh ehe

  • @Death_Is_Inevitable
    @Death_Is_Inevitable 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    in all honesty, the main reason i love Elliott so much is- other than his personality- the fact he low-key reminds me of my comfort character's hair. It's like a man falling in love with a woman that resembles his dead ex wife

  • @gothic_nix
    @gothic_nix 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I have to disagree with you, Elliot is only green flags

  • @HYPERZ0NE
    @HYPERZ0NE 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    THE PARAGRAPHS OF ELLIOT SUPPORTERS I'M CRYING😭😭😭😭

    • @ilovecats52fandom
      @ilovecats52fandom 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      What did you expect? Writer attracts writers

    • @apersonwhocantmoveitmoveit7688
      @apersonwhocantmoveitmoveit7688 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I actually seen more paragraph from Elliott haters honestly 💀

  • @antlercatler
    @antlercatler ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Elliot's biggest downfall is that he didn't like the daffodils I gave him :(

  • @Tam00393
    @Tam00393 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    WORD OF WARNING: I made the mistake of dating Elliot then marrying Alex and not breaking up with him (my idiot ass thought the wedding would be enough) the ten heart event will still trigger even if you're married to someone else. Don't make the mistake I did, if you date someone before marrying someone else, break up with them either before or after the wedding unless you still want to do the 10 heart event

  • @elizabethh767
    @elizabethh767 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    1:00 i know the gifts he loves are expensive, but he's also super receptive to most foraged items

  • @why_do_i_need_this
    @why_do_i_need_this 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    tbh i hate the reasons ppl hate elliot, i say this as an elliot hater, because its kinda hypocritical. the only reason i hate him is because one time i heard someone call him an erotic novelist and now i can only think of that.

  • @KikiDiki
    @KikiDiki 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm just imagining someone getting in a car with their boyfriend and saying "I CAN'T ESCAPE" once it picks up speed.

  • @TrueMonkeyNinja
    @TrueMonkeyNinja ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I think he’s really charming…

  • @user-qx3jg2dk8q
    @user-qx3jg2dk8q 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    His ultimate toxic trait: his portrait gives vibe OPPOSITE of his actual personality
    I mean when I first played I was creeped out
    I said under multiple vids that his yandere mod fits him but shit, his vanilla portrsit gives creepiness of level "hit with bat immediately"

  • @ajdove1823
    @ajdove1823 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Elliot has definitely read Don Quixote WAY too much. It's his favorite book.

    • @seineevee
      @seineevee หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      HAHA YES!

  • @MybeRosemary975
    @MybeRosemary975 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I haven’t watched the video yet but i would just like to say I am 100 percent biased towards Elliot and he is the perfect best boy you can’t change my mind

  • @Zankaras
    @Zankaras ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Imagine how creepy Elliott's 10 heart scene was back when you could get it without dating him.
    I suspect Elliott might be the reason for the patch that limited the farmer to 8 hearts with single villagers...

  • @chelseacl980
    @chelseacl980 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "That guy has so many red flags"
    *casually threatens arson* XD

  • @AegbGo
    @AegbGo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Alright so, about the kiss being uncomfortable I think its valid, sure, other bachelors also kiss you without asking first (And thats kinda ok even with Elliot since at that point they're your boyfriends), but Elliot's is the only one where the farmer starts trembling and has the option to be "uncomfortable", I don't think "being happy" makes you start shaking like that.
    I believe if such thing hasn't happened, it wouldnt be so bad, but it happened and I dont think I like it lmao

    • @anniejade781
      @anniejade781 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I trembled out of excitement to my first kiss so it's completely plausible to be a thing. It was also a very sudden thing to happen but I still had excited jitters so the scene read completely natural to me personally as someone who experienced something extremely similar.

    • @AegbGo
      @AegbGo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@anniejade781 Mm yeah thats true but why does it only happen to Elliot? That's what confuses me the most

    • @anniejade781
      @anniejade781 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@AegbGo it probably has to do with his romance trope. My friend brought up the term "buckled knees" which is used heavily in romance novels so it's possible it was pulled from that.

    • @apersonwhocantmoveitmoveit7688
      @apersonwhocantmoveitmoveit7688 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I literally tremble only from *thinking* about a hypothetical partner kissing me 😭

  • @NekoMuraski
    @NekoMuraski 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I did the rommance with Elliot, but the game doesn't translate well into my French, so he spoke normally, perhaps a little more sustained than the others, but as a writer, I thought it was normal for him to express himself "better".
    it's true that in the original version, it doesn't come across as well ....

  • @ItsGemystic
    @ItsGemystic ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Sounds to me like you have a skill issue Nino
    Fr though romancing Elliot isn’t actually that hard. Once you have crab pots you can literally just put them in the ocean and you’ll have lobsters that you can take straight out of the pot and give right to him lmao

    • @ReesesBees
      @ReesesBees ปีที่แล้ว

      Should've done that the first time I started romancing him.

  • @EvelynandBreelee
    @EvelynandBreelee 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Elliot reminds me of the is he gay or European song lol

  • @boredutopia
    @boredutopia 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    He is half mermaid..

  • @nichyuu
    @nichyuu ปีที่แล้ว +4

    im just hilariously playing sound effects to fit the situation and im enjoying this video so much thanks for making it :D ❤