This is why I like One Pieces' bounty system so much. It isn't a clear indicator of strength. If you have a low bounty it just means you haven't done anything to be considered a higher priority.
I also like how it can still indicate strength, meaning that it can also represent growth. Like any time I hear someone has a bounty above $1B, you know they mean business, and a bounty of $3-5B is worthy of an emperor (mostly lol). Too bad bounty hunters are irrelevant, now I just got no clue who is collecting these figures haha
The thing is with OPs bounty system is that it's alot different from regular rankings and barely counts as much of a proper ranking system to me. There is no set distinguished level or rank merely how much money someone is willing to have you dead... Unlike Naruto, demon slayer or any other fantasy/shonin ranking system where there are designed ranks to group a certain level of people... the navy have Id say a more traditional ranking and same typically with Yonko. Fleet admiral Admiral Vice admiral Captain Vice captain/lieutenant Yonko Yonko 1st commander Yonko 2nd commander Yonko 3rd commander That's why most OP fans refer to these titles when it comes to ranking alot of the characters because those are really the only proper rankings you have in OP...
@@Warlord-dc5unyea the bounty isn't always just for power scaling it measures threat to the government sometimes that thereat is knowledge like Nico Robin as a kid from Ohara sometimes it's influence... Buggy
I remember there was a point in Pokémon where Ash had like 7 Gym badges and he was acting like a hot shot. Then an Elite Four member showed up and put him in his place
@@madladdie7069 Technically no, but they exist in the manga which is cool. And they also kinda allude to the growth and power. Also, Trip had literally just started his journey, so unless they gave him a yolked out Snivy for no reason, Ash took an L to a newbie trainer.
@@ScritRighter His Snivy did know Leaf Tornado which is like a level 20 move or something iirc. Still, that probably isn't enough to account for the win. The manga having levels is... yeah, it's cool.
MHA hero ranks are almost literally a popularity contest, and you can't be considered for a ranking at all if you aren't a pro hero. It makes perfect sense that students and villains aren't part of that consideration, as well as less active non-public heroes like Gran Torino
I think My Hero and One Piece both do this pretty well. Their "ranking" systems certainly can imply a certain ranking of power but it's mostly popularity or notoriety respectively that gains them their places.
I definitely agree with the overall sentiment of the video. however, I would say that in the case of Naruto, it's more of actually a lack of explanation rather than the ranking its system itself Being completely broken. At the core of the ranking system, you basically have these things that it is useful for understanding: 1. A minimum level of physical ability you can expect For someone of that rank. 2. A minimum level of competency and strategical ability along with maturity that you can expect for someone of that rank. 3. A minimum level of ability with the magical system(chakra) that you could expect for someone of that rank. The problem is that the writing doesn't take the time to explain that. But it does back it up within just the first few arcs. Sakura is actually what a typical Genin is. Her level of physical ability is what you could expect at a minimum for a genin. But no rank has a ceiling in just the physical ability areas. Sasuke beats up 2 chunin in the land of waves arc, Shikamaru holds down 8 chunin during the exams, Gaara is the strongest ninja the sand has at the time of the exams besides his dad, Itachi was 7 and beating chunin exams recordsby himself, etc. The ranking system was never really a good indicator of just physical ability in a fight. It was broken from the first arc and I think intentionally so, given what Kakashi says about Haku. The thing where the ranking system isn't really explained outside of when Shikamaru gets promoted, is that the mental maturity and strategic ability are actually more important than the physical when it comes to rank. Shikamaru is the only one who gets promoted. Even though there were at least six other people in that exam who he would not have been able to beat in any physical category at that time. Because he was definitely physically strong enough to meet the requirements of a chunin, but he was the only one who had the intangibles who got to actually show them(Shino did too, but he didn't get a fight b4 invasion) The tournament instructor even tells sasuke he is more than strong enough to be a chunin. The series also clearly establishes you can lose your fights and still get promoted in the tournament. Or win and not get it. The forest exam was about completing the mission as efficiently as possible without losing teammates. It was not just about strength. Kiba's team fought no one, the just used their sensory skills to trap somone and snuck to the tower. The preliminary tournament where Lee fought gaara was not standard practice. It was done cause too many teams got through the second test. So it was the only section of the exams purely about strength. Naruto spends his timeskip honing his non physical based intangibles even more than his physical ones. Jiraiya says as much. Him not having time to take the test is more of a gag, sure. My point is, the system is definitely flawed, but I think it's not exactly broken. It's more like it's flawed and too broad. But the series does establish the room for exceptions the moment its introduced and does go in depth explaining that's its not meant to be a power ranking hardline system
I was just thinking how jjk was really bad at this. We just find out cursed beings exist and then by episode 8 we get jogo and domain expansion. It would be like if in episode 8 of bleach arrancar and bankai got dropped. But we learn about there being four grades of curses plus special grade. And sorcerers match that. Then at the end of season 1 they suddenly just decide to promote the main cast all up to rank 1, just skip all that growth. I absolutely love the power system and fights in jjk but the power scaling ramped up way to quickly
The subgenre of fantasy, 'Progression Fantasy', focuses on the main protagonist increasing their rank as they progress through the story. I agree, mangaka are missing out in a massive audience. The success of 'Defiance of the Fall' and 'The Primal Hunter' show how much readers enjoy watching numbers go up.
Except the practical strength of many of the non-Yuji characters is not that well represented by their grades. I see so many people make pretty convincing arguments that Inumaki is not really all that powerful, even though he was the highest ranked Tokyo student at the beginning of the story
Jjks system is pretty bad. Special grade curses are incredibly common and can range from that one baby curse in the first few episodes to fucking sukuna. Grade 1 sorceror ranges from nanami to hakari.
Funny enough, JJK calls out that its system is inherently flawed multiple times. Our first introduction to it had Sukuna demolishing a finger-bearer and saying, "Did you know that apparently we're both considered Special Grade?" Which was a critique of the fact that the system has an upper level, but the real world doesn't. We've also seen how characters like Maki and Toji can be excluded from the ranking system or have their ranks suppressed due to the fact that the system only measures sorcerers and can be influenced by political factors because it's an institutional system. JJK's ranking system regularly has outliers failures, it's just that they happen with a measured purpose and intention from the writer.
@@manlikemodie3206because special grade curses is anything above rank one, which is pretty clearly established, and hakari is only rank one because he’s relatively weak while outside of his domain, where it states that when hes in it hes special grade material
@normal6483 true, i always thought theyd change it after gojo told the principal that "special grade" wouldnt cut it anymore. but they didnt. While its aconowledged that its a bad system, still doesnt make it any less of a bad system if you get what i mean. The term special grade curse and grade 1 sorceror is so broad and doesnt give you any actual info, just as gojo and sukuna state in the beginning. Kinda unintuitive for the reader
One piece and dan machi have a really cool ranking system as well Bounties on one end is how much the WG thinks youre worth and dan machi levels/stats on the other hand show your personal growth
Ima throw some shade at Bleach for a sec, we establish and encounter “Captain Level” so fast that from the end of Fake Kurakura on power scaling is done almost with vibes alone. Also, what is “Captain level”? Is it Shinji, Kyoraku, Byakuya, Soi Fon, Komamura, MAYURI??? The captains range from “my powers aren’t legally allowed in the presence of comrades and/or soul society” to “my bankai literally does nothing except annoy the enemy” any multiple ranges in between. Like Mayuri got taken down by Uryu using an antique while Byakuya and Kenpachi were on demon time from day 1 Oh it’s ok, the Arrancar we were barely able to deal with are absolutely nothing compared to these new Quincy enemies so our best captains need to suddenly become exponentially stronger making it further unclear what constitutes as “Captain level” since that included both IKAKU and KENPACHI
Excellent video but I think some stuff is a bit... misunderstood? I don't know what else to call it. The ranking in Naruto is not purely based on strength. Remember how the only person to become a Chunin in the exams we saw was Shikamaru and he surrenders when he was out of options. Strategy played a big part in it. I assume that's why you need to pass the exam to climb the ranks, they need a way to measure how good you are and having beaten strong opponents doesn't give people the full picture. I do believe we see Tanjiro ascend ranks at least once. I think it was mentioned early on in the Entertainment District Arc.
Good video overall, though like a few others pointed out, the bit about Hunter x Hunter didn't make much sense to me. The fact that a newbie Hunter is nothing compared to the literal chairman of the Hunter Association should be obvious and a good example of ranks meaning something, not a bad one. People like Hisoka and Illumi, who were already top-tiers before becoming Hunters, are exceptions (and even they would get destroyed by Netero). Maybe you meant to say that being a Hunter doesn't feel special because, while a Hunter is a superhuman compared to the average person, our perception is skewed since the story mostly focuses on the top-tier Nen users? I personally don't have that impression because the story does a good job showing how much of a beast you have to be to even pass the Hunter exam and how dangerous Nen is to non-Nen users, to the point where any "fodder" character could easily kill anyone in our world with one punch, but I can kinda get it if that was the point.
The issue is that there really isn't a ranking. You pass the exam, but that doesn't really mean much. Killua didn't pass the first time despite being clear leaps and bounds more qualified (Though I understand for narrative and character development reasons why he didn't), only for Killua to ruin everyone else's chances in the next exam.
10:15 breaking down systems only works if theres a system in the first place and introducing a ranking ayst.and then ignoring it is effectively saying there is no system so theres really nothing to break
@@ScritRighter lmao I don’t remember the names of the ranks I just remember Inosuke teaching him how to check his rank and the animation of them moving up multiple ranks to just below Kanao. The video isn’t about how the rank names aren’t memorable, it’s about how main characters never seem to go up in rank but in the case of Tanjiro he has moved up.
@@Nashtoise5 I think you can probably agree that if you can't remember the names of the ranks, and I can't remember them ranking up, then maybe I had a point when I said demon slayer doesn't seem to care about its ranking system.
@@ScritRighterI would say they’ve never cared about the ranking system other than the rank of hashira so it as a show wouldn’t really apply to the whole Chekhov gun theory unless Tanjiro doesn’t make it to Hashira rank by the end especially since they have clearly established that there are very clear cut ways to jump right past other ranks straight to Hashira like defeating an upper moon by yourself. The other shows you mentioned (at least the ones I’ve seen) make a point of showing that one rank lead’s directly to the next and there is no skipping, they do no such thing in demon slayer. In fact they make a clear point of saying you can become a Hashira in a matter of months if you are good enough. There is no bonus tests or arbitrary rules, it’s simply kill demons rank up. More demons equals higher rank and stronger demons equals higher rank. I’d say they’re rank system makes a hell of a lot more sense than Naruto’s does.
Wasn't the MHA rankings just pro heroes based on their popularity or saves or whatever? Of course the high schoolers wouldn't be part of it, it's purely a business-related social status thing Also Hunters in HxH are just the baseline separation of characters who are capable in some way and the vast majority of average humans, not a ranking system of any kind. It's like wondering why nascar placements aren't included on your drivers license
There are also hunters who cannot use Nen at all when they pass the test. Hisoka also literally looks over some random hunters to see if they are strong and is utterly unimpressed with all of them. And once again, the zodiacs are an example of only the top mattering. No mention of the main characters achieving these inner ranks, or what they truly mean in terms of power or skill.
usually these hunters cant get access to most of the hunter's benefits until they learn nen, also, for hisoka anyone who is not practically a genius or a very experienced user is weak, because he will stomp them. my other point is that the starred hunters and zodiacs do have a rank that matter, so basically you have the entrance level and the top levels
For all intents and purposes, Saitama should have been at the very top for his physical power alone, but they were clever in showing exactly what was wrong with their testing methods in the first place. Then allowing the hero to still rank up even if it is at a slow and gradual pace. It's not the populace as a whole which recognizes Saitama, but the ones he saves, who recognize him. And above all, a hero does not need recognition and fame to be a hero. It's a wonderfully constructed and utilized ranking system that still manages to be satirical and subversive.
well to be fair ninjas are not in fact ranked on strength (outside the hokage) rather leadership skills which naruto has never demonstrated even as a hokage, he still just runs in alone.
@@crocoboi7936 Kinda weird for a golden generation of Genin to be capped because too many of them qualified to be chunin. If they qualify for the rank and pass the tests, what does a tournament really prove in that instance? Especially since brackets could give one qualifier an unfair disadvantage if thier opponent happens to be their perfect counter. It wouldn't determine who is more worthy, just who is capable of winning a 1v1 between the two. Not to mention, Naruto STILL could have been given an honorary title at any point solely based on his accomplishments as a ninja. And if you're not promoting the one ninja who is literally saving your entire village above rank 1, then your ranking system is dogwater.
Thus far in the anime they haven't really mentioned anything, and you would think they would have already ranked since the spider event let alone helping to kill one of the most powerful demons out there.
This is why I like One Pieces' bounty system so much. It isn't a clear indicator of strength. If you have a low bounty it just means you haven't done anything to be considered a higher priority.
I also like how it can still indicate strength, meaning that it can also represent growth. Like any time I hear someone has a bounty above $1B, you know they mean business, and a bounty of $3-5B is worthy of an emperor (mostly lol). Too bad bounty hunters are irrelevant, now I just got no clue who is collecting these figures haha
The thing is with OPs bounty system is that it's alot different from regular rankings and barely counts as much of a proper ranking system to me.
There is no set distinguished level or rank merely how much money someone is willing to have you dead...
Unlike Naruto, demon slayer or any other fantasy/shonin ranking system where there are designed ranks to group a certain level of people... the navy have Id say a more traditional ranking and same typically with Yonko.
Fleet admiral
Admiral
Vice admiral
Captain
Vice captain/lieutenant
Yonko
Yonko 1st commander
Yonko 2nd commander
Yonko 3rd commander
That's why most OP fans refer to these titles when it comes to ranking alot of the characters because those are really the only proper rankings you have in OP...
@@Warlord-dc5unyea the bounty isn't always just for power scaling
it measures threat to the government
sometimes that thereat is knowledge like Nico Robin as a kid from Ohara
sometimes it's influence... Buggy
You forgot marine ranks as well.
I remember there was a point in Pokémon where Ash had like 7 Gym badges and he was acting like a hot shot. Then an Elite Four member showed up and put him in his place
And then he also loses to a level 5 Snivy lol.
@@ScritRighter No he doesn't, watch the show
@@ScritRighter Do levels even exist in the anime?
@@madladdie7069 Technically no, but they exist in the manga which is cool. And they also kinda allude to the growth and power. Also, Trip had literally just started his journey, so unless they gave him a yolked out Snivy for no reason, Ash took an L to a newbie trainer.
@@ScritRighter His Snivy did know Leaf Tornado which is like a level 20 move or something iirc. Still, that probably isn't enough to account for the win.
The manga having levels is... yeah, it's cool.
They prolly don’t use the ranking systems because they end up forgetting they exist or there are to many characters to keep track of
MHA hero ranks are almost literally a popularity contest, and you can't be considered for a ranking at all if you aren't a pro hero. It makes perfect sense that students and villains aren't part of that consideration, as well as less active non-public heroes like Gran Torino
I think My Hero and One Piece both do this pretty well. Their "ranking" systems certainly can imply a certain ranking of power but it's mostly popularity or notoriety respectively that gains them their places.
I definitely agree with the overall sentiment of the video. however, I would say that in the case of Naruto, it's more of actually a lack of explanation rather than the ranking its system itself Being completely broken.
At the core of the ranking system, you basically have these things that it is useful for understanding:
1. A minimum level of physical ability you can expect For someone of that rank.
2. A minimum level of competency and strategical ability along with maturity that you can expect for someone of that rank.
3. A minimum level of ability with the magical system(chakra) that you could expect for someone of that rank.
The problem is that the writing doesn't take the time to explain that. But it does back it up within just the first few arcs.
Sakura is actually what a typical Genin is. Her level of physical ability is what you could expect at a minimum for a genin. But no rank has a ceiling in just the physical ability areas.
Sasuke beats up 2 chunin in the land of waves arc, Shikamaru holds down 8 chunin during the exams, Gaara is the strongest ninja the sand has at the time of the exams besides his dad, Itachi was 7 and beating chunin exams recordsby himself, etc.
The ranking system was never really a good indicator of just physical ability in a fight. It was broken from the first arc and I think intentionally so, given what Kakashi says about Haku.
The thing where the ranking system isn't really explained outside of when Shikamaru gets promoted, is that the mental maturity and strategic ability are actually more important than the physical when it comes to rank.
Shikamaru is the only one who gets promoted. Even though there were at least six other people in that exam who he would not have been able to beat in any physical category at that time. Because he was definitely physically strong enough to meet the requirements of a chunin, but he was the only one who had the intangibles who got to actually show them(Shino did too, but he didn't get a fight b4 invasion)
The tournament instructor even tells sasuke he is more than strong enough to be a chunin.
The series also clearly establishes you can lose your fights and still get promoted in the tournament. Or win and not get it.
The forest exam was about completing the mission as efficiently as possible without losing teammates. It was not just about strength. Kiba's team fought no one, the just used their sensory skills to trap somone and snuck to the tower.
The preliminary tournament where Lee fought gaara was not standard practice. It was done cause too many teams got through the second test. So it was the only section of the exams purely about strength.
Naruto spends his timeskip honing his non physical based intangibles even more than his physical ones. Jiraiya says as much. Him not having time to take the test is more of a gag, sure.
My point is, the system is definitely flawed, but I think it's not exactly broken. It's more like it's flawed and too broad. But the series does establish the room for exceptions the moment its introduced and does go in depth explaining that's its not meant to be a power ranking hardline system
Digimon has always done ranking well, You can pretty much immediately tell what a champion can do vs what a rookie can
I was just thinking how jjk was really bad at this.
We just find out cursed beings exist and then by episode 8 we get jogo and domain expansion.
It would be like if in episode 8 of bleach arrancar and bankai got dropped.
But we learn about there being four grades of curses plus special grade. And sorcerers match that.
Then at the end of season 1 they suddenly just decide to promote the main cast all up to rank 1, just skip all that growth.
I absolutely love the power system and fights in jjk but the power scaling ramped up way to quickly
I always wanted to include ranking systems in fictional settings. I'll be sure to do that.
World Triggers ranking system is perfect, and it's very accurate all the way through out the anime/manga.
World trigger is so good
For anyone that wants an anime with a good ranking system that is used (a lot) i recommend World Trigger (heck the second arc is called the Rank Wars)
The subgenre of fantasy, 'Progression Fantasy', focuses on the main protagonist increasing their rank as they progress through the story.
I agree, mangaka are missing out in a massive audience. The success of 'Defiance of the Fall' and 'The Primal Hunter' show how much readers enjoy watching numbers go up.
This is why JJK's ranking system is one of my favorites. The progression Yuji from the first page to the culling games is done really well.
Except the practical strength of many of the non-Yuji characters is not that well represented by their grades. I see so many people make pretty convincing arguments that Inumaki is not really all that powerful, even though he was the highest ranked Tokyo student at the beginning of the story
Jjks system is pretty bad. Special grade curses are incredibly common and can range from that one baby curse in the first few episodes to fucking sukuna. Grade 1 sorceror ranges from nanami to hakari.
Funny enough, JJK calls out that its system is inherently flawed multiple times. Our first introduction to it had Sukuna demolishing a finger-bearer and saying, "Did you know that apparently we're both considered Special Grade?" Which was a critique of the fact that the system has an upper level, but the real world doesn't. We've also seen how characters like Maki and Toji can be excluded from the ranking system or have their ranks suppressed due to the fact that the system only measures sorcerers and can be influenced by political factors because it's an institutional system. JJK's ranking system regularly has outliers failures, it's just that they happen with a measured purpose and intention from the writer.
@@manlikemodie3206because special grade curses is anything above rank one, which is pretty clearly established, and hakari is only rank one because he’s relatively weak while outside of his domain, where it states that when hes in it hes special grade material
@normal6483 true, i always thought theyd change it after gojo told the principal that "special grade" wouldnt cut it anymore. but they didnt. While its aconowledged that its a bad system, still doesnt make it any less of a bad system if you get what i mean. The term special grade curse and grade 1 sorceror is so broad and doesnt give you any actual info, just as gojo and sukuna state in the beginning. Kinda unintuitive for the reader
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One piece and dan machi have a really cool ranking system as well
Bounties on one end is how much the WG thinks youre worth and dan machi levels/stats on the other hand show your personal growth
This is usually due to a lot of anime having antagonist that completely make the ranking system irrelevant
How so?
that first sentence describes most of my issues with jjk
Ranking Systems in Anime/Manga are basically just Power Levels, they are absolute Nonsense and Bullcrap.
i think hajime no ippo also does this very well
Ima throw some shade at Bleach for a sec, we establish and encounter “Captain Level” so fast that from the end of Fake Kurakura on power scaling is done almost with vibes alone.
Also, what is “Captain level”? Is it Shinji, Kyoraku, Byakuya, Soi Fon, Komamura, MAYURI??? The captains range from “my powers aren’t legally allowed in the presence of comrades and/or soul society” to “my bankai literally does nothing except annoy the enemy” any multiple ranges in between. Like Mayuri got taken down by Uryu using an antique while Byakuya and Kenpachi were on demon time from day 1
Oh it’s ok, the Arrancar we were barely able to deal with are absolutely nothing compared to these new Quincy enemies so our best captains need to suddenly become exponentially stronger making it further unclear what constitutes as “Captain level” since that included both IKAKU and KENPACHI
I never watched Bleach, but that does sound frustrating lmao.
Excellent video but I think some stuff is a bit... misunderstood? I don't know what else to call it.
The ranking in Naruto is not purely based on strength. Remember how the only person to become a Chunin in the exams we saw was Shikamaru and he surrenders when he was out of options. Strategy played a big part in it. I assume that's why you need to pass the exam to climb the ranks, they need a way to measure how good you are and having beaten strong opponents doesn't give people the full picture.
I do believe we see Tanjiro ascend ranks at least once. I think it was mentioned early on in the Entertainment District Arc.
Good video overall, though like a few others pointed out, the bit about Hunter x Hunter didn't make much sense to me. The fact that a newbie Hunter is nothing compared to the literal chairman of the Hunter Association should be obvious and a good example of ranks meaning something, not a bad one. People like Hisoka and Illumi, who were already top-tiers before becoming Hunters, are exceptions (and even they would get destroyed by Netero).
Maybe you meant to say that being a Hunter doesn't feel special because, while a Hunter is a superhuman compared to the average person, our perception is skewed since the story mostly focuses on the top-tier Nen users? I personally don't have that impression because the story does a good job showing how much of a beast you have to be to even pass the Hunter exam and how dangerous Nen is to non-Nen users, to the point where any "fodder" character could easily kill anyone in our world with one punch, but I can kinda get it if that was the point.
The issue is that there really isn't a ranking. You pass the exam, but that doesn't really mean much. Killua didn't pass the first time despite being clear leaps and bounds more qualified (Though I understand for narrative and character development reasons why he didn't), only for Killua to ruin everyone else's chances in the next exam.
5:11 the difference is literally that is netero is the head of the hunter organization 🙂🤦
10:15 breaking down systems only works if theres a system in the first place
and introducing a ranking ayst.and then ignoring it is effectively saying there is no system so theres really nothing to break
Ranking has no place in storytelling because: show, don't tell
Tanjiro has ranked up, a decent amount too. Inosuke brings this up during the entertainment district arc.
And what rank is Tanjiro without looking it up?
@@ScritRighternear hashira level, at the very end he’s probably a hashira but they dispand by then
@@ScritRighter lmao I don’t remember the names of the ranks I just remember Inosuke teaching him how to check his rank and the animation of them moving up multiple ranks to just below Kanao. The video isn’t about how the rank names aren’t memorable, it’s about how main characters never seem to go up in rank but in the case of Tanjiro he has moved up.
@@Nashtoise5 I think you can probably agree that if you can't remember the names of the ranks, and I can't remember them ranking up, then maybe I had a point when I said demon slayer doesn't seem to care about its ranking system.
@@ScritRighterI would say they’ve never cared about the ranking system other than the rank of hashira so it as a show wouldn’t really apply to the whole Chekhov gun theory unless Tanjiro doesn’t make it to Hashira rank by the end especially since they have clearly established that there are very clear cut ways to jump right past other ranks straight to Hashira like defeating an upper moon by yourself. The other shows you mentioned (at least the ones I’ve seen) make a point of showing that one rank lead’s directly to the next and there is no skipping, they do no such thing in demon slayer. In fact they make a clear point of saying you can become a Hashira in a matter of months if you are good enough. There is no bonus tests or arbitrary rules, it’s simply kill demons rank up. More demons equals higher rank and stronger demons equals higher rank. I’d say they’re rank system makes a hell of a lot more sense than Naruto’s does.
My greatest gripe is that the ranking systems aren't in alphabetical order.
Wasn't the MHA rankings just pro heroes based on their popularity or saves or whatever? Of course the high schoolers wouldn't be part of it, it's purely a business-related social status thing
Also Hunters in HxH are just the baseline separation of characters who are capable in some way and the vast majority of average humans, not a ranking system of any kind. It's like wondering why nascar placements aren't included on your drivers license
what are you talking about in hxh, any official hunters body non hunters that cant use nen, not to mention the starred hunters and zodiacs
There are also hunters who cannot use Nen at all when they pass the test. Hisoka also literally looks over some random hunters to see if they are strong and is utterly unimpressed with all of them. And once again, the zodiacs are an example of only the top mattering. No mention of the main characters achieving these inner ranks, or what they truly mean in terms of power or skill.
usually these hunters cant get access to most of the hunter's benefits until they learn nen, also, for hisoka anyone who is not practically a genius or a very experienced user is weak, because he will stomp them. my other point is that the starred hunters and zodiacs do have a rank that matter, so basically you have the entrance level and the top levels
I think jjk does this well to
OPM is king for this, Saitama being recognized by ranking up is people realizing the depth
For all intents and purposes, Saitama should have been at the very top for his physical power alone, but they were clever in showing exactly what was wrong with their testing methods in the first place. Then allowing the hero to still rank up even if it is at a slow and gradual pace. It's not the populace as a whole which recognizes Saitama, but the ones he saves, who recognize him. And above all, a hero does not need recognition and fame to be a hero.
It's a wonderfully constructed and utilized ranking system that still manages to be satirical and subversive.
Sounds like you just made odd expectations that was never given by the series
which expectation and which series?
well to be fair ninjas are not in fact ranked on strength (outside the hokage) rather leadership skills which naruto has never demonstrated even as a hokage, he still just runs in alone.
They literally have two tournaments and a PVP enabled scroll stealing game in the Chunin exams. I dunno which part of that is leadership.
@@ScritRighterthey said the tournaments weren’t a standard practice it was done because there were too many genin
@@crocoboi7936 Kinda weird for a golden generation of Genin to be capped because too many of them qualified to be chunin. If they qualify for the rank and pass the tests, what does a tournament really prove in that instance? Especially since brackets could give one qualifier an unfair disadvantage if thier opponent happens to be their perfect counter. It wouldn't determine who is more worthy, just who is capable of winning a 1v1 between the two.
Not to mention, Naruto STILL could have been given an honorary title at any point solely based on his accomplishments as a ninja. And if you're not promoting the one ninja who is literally saving your entire village above rank 1, then your ranking system is dogwater.
This is beyond false and highly disingenuous @garrymolony9570
@@ScritRighterill agree with the last half definitely. Since your right on that
Idk if it hasnt come up in the anime but in the Dwmon slayer Manga they do in fact make mention of Tanjiro and his group rank up
Thus far in the anime they haven't really mentioned anything, and you would think they would have already ranked since the spider event let alone helping to kill one of the most powerful demons out there.
@@ScritRightertbh it was with the help of his sister that he won, also the hashira delt the killing bloow
Iirc Tanjiro just hasn't been keeping track of his rank, I believe he's steadily ranking up over time, he's already not bottom rank
@ScritRighter is this clickbait
wait I thought you died or something
They can't keep me down lmao