@@HonkaiChaser Harder isn't even the right word here. Remember Jane Doe doppelgänger? Well, we have more of these now. Not her in particular, but not much better, and each paired with a bodyguard, and they work as a team with their bodyguards. Oh, and the floor have a unique way to greet you. You'll know. It's fun. XD
@@gauravmaharjan2207ZZZ, WuWA, Genshin, HSR, etc. all gacha games just boil down to luck and time investment at the end of the day. Money can circumvent those as well.
@@ChrisWilliams-ur7fn oh noooo sorry to hear that bro I would share some of my luck if I could but I think I used up all of my good luck lol But I hope you pull Caesar soon.
I definitely agree the late game content is definitely harder but it’s what I like to call artificial difficulty which isn’t automatically a bad thing but too much is definitely something I don’t like
I don’t think ZZZ has as much artificial difficulty as much as the other Hoyo games But I do agree too much of it is bad, and I think every game has some sort of artificial difficulty.
well technically every dificulty is artificial it's just the matter if it's fun for player or not shiyu defend critical node is not dificulty it's typical dps check in gacha game other node however is actual skill check no time limit just don't die
As far as luck on my rat pulls. I had enough to run the 90 down 3 times in hoping for an M2, but lost the 50/50 once and only got an M1 rat with basic dub engine, (was saving till the last day on dub engine until someone posted that the total rewards for 1.2 was equivalent to 18,000 polys and 20 limited pulls. With that much coming, I'm set for at least a guaranteed on one of them. Ideally Caesar since Burnice is just another damage dealer and we've got plenty of that already, Caesar brings something new)
I see…sorry about not getting M2 on the rat I hope you have better luck next time you pull :) But 18,000 polys and 20 limited pulls is crazy! I didn’t know they are give that much in 1.2 (We eating good this update)
The Shiyu Defense is proper difficult. I have the Zhu Yuan team and Jane Doe team but gotta really focus to not KO easily. I love these Disputed/Ambush nodes. Even if I don’t know how switch cancel, I still have to rotate all my characters properly or I die in a few swipes. I love this mode.
It can be maybe 2 nd or 3th hardest hoyo game That game have no challenge so the hardest kontent is with all dbuffs some mode Impact is pbb the hardest
@@azureknight729 bruh lol he's sayin that the hardest content is with all the debuffs which he's probably talking about HZ but "pbb" tbh I don't what that is sorry @wojtek7779 lol but I personally think Shiyu Defense D-Node floor 8 is the craziest s#$t I ever played in any hoyo game.
Send me his language pack later so i can install it, anyways, yea i agree hoyo is finally cooking with challenging content, zzz future is looking promising if we get more stuff like this.
5:54 on the bright side, I’ve already gotten 30 pulls this patch with just the new content and the $5 monthly sub. So you’ll probably be able to pull for the section 6 chick (that isn’t Miyabi) Though obviously the dailies help. 17:44 it’s basically just the wasteland that surrounds the city 28:07 the people that said it was easy only played the story, which your supposed to be able to beat for the story, and only played chapter one
Yeah I’ve seen the girl from section 6 on the ZZZ twitter account, that means Miyabi soon!! And yeah the people that say is easy they probably jut played the first chapter and that’s it lol
I had similar luck with pulling Jane, but also with the W engines to. Decided to do a random pull to see if I could get Seths weapon only to get an S rank, it wasn't Janes, but a few days later I decided to do it again to get Seths only to get an another S rank getting Jane's weapon. So basically I got back to back S pulls from the weapon banner (I was no were near pity mind you) apparently the weapon banner is were all my Jane Doe Luck went. 😂
Disputed node was the hardest thing in game but then it became easy with Jane, try the same with n without Jane for 2nd half. The new inferno mode is fun and the last stage is hard but it cycles in 40 days n i m bored of waiting already. 😅 The new Jane boss should be relatively hard as well.
Honestly it's not that the game itself is hard per se. The difficulty was artificially increased with ambush node by putting 2 enemies in the final floor that synergize REALLY well together (1 glass cannon ranged and 1 SUPER tanky melee), inflating the enemies HP, and significantly increasing the damage dealt. 1 on 1, those enemies are incredibly easy. I think you can call a game overall "hard" if the majority of the game is difficult or challenging. Most of the game itself is a cake-walk. It's just the 1 or 2 hyper endgame things that are pushed so far into sweaty gamer territory that it makes the game seem hard when it isn't completely hard.
I'll take synergistic enemies that deal crazy damage over massive bullet sponges. The enemies in disputed don't have inflated HPs beyond the usual health pools seen in later Shiyu stages. But in the end, it is a mobile gacha game so it's obviously not going to be Souls-like difficulty lol
@@tourist2222 The tanks guy IS a bullet sponge. Took my Zhu Yuan team 4 full minutes to clear that side and he wasn't even ether resistant. My Zhu Yuan team can usually clear Shiyu 7 in about 2 minutes. That dude took 2.5 FULL rotations to kill even AFTER I killed the elite shadow he was with.
@@Carnaj90 I just redid the shiyu 7 and disputed 7 with my Zhu Yuan team on both sides to make sure. And it does take longer to complete Disputed but the Tank takes the same amount of rotations for me on both sides (2.5 rotations). The reason it takes longer is because its easier to deal with the mobs on Shiyu side compared to the glass cannon in disputed. This is just what I've found. My time on Disputed is a min longer to clear
IMHO it is the hardest Hoyoverse game to play, hands down. Yes, there are harder challenges in HI3 but this doesn't affect the main story, and in HSR you have to advance the balance level to open further parts to the main story, but the fights afterwards aren't more challenging if you're just patient enough to farm a bit of resources and improve your chars. But in ZZZ you need to improve your inter-knot to open the main story and you've got to face the harder challenges to improve the inter-knot and you have to improve your chars to win those challenges, and to improve you chars you need to get resource from those VR tests, where you only get a decent amount if you increase the difficulty enough. Still, not souls level, but quite taxing for casual players accustomed to GI's "play the complete story line with level 20 chars and netx-to-BIS equipment" or HSR's "start the farming runs and come back when they are finished to collect the loot."
IMHO? Which game is that? Also about leveling up/ processing through the story in HI3, HSR, ZZZ for the hard content that’s just how gacha games are and also some games. They do that so the casual player can enjoy the game and the hardcore player can get a challenge later on (I’m both of them btw:3) So you shouldn’t expect a souls like game if you’re not playing a souls like game lol ( even though you kind have to level up in those games too/ progress)
You can still "genshin" content 😂 I got through all the story with lv 30s. This game is a lot more skill based, I'm not saying I'm skilful just you can cheese content if you're good enough.
i was rly lucky by Jane banner in 30 pulls i got lycaon who i need for my ice team xDD and 40 pulls later jane but ceasar yea... 76 pull... at least no pity loose
Did bro say that 76 pull is unlucky??????? I always get S rank at around 76 and I lost 50/50 on jane to lycaon and couldn't get enough pulls for another 76 for jane
@@HonkaiChaser i wish too =D bro one question about wuwa when the next banner is coming are you keeping the pity on the limited weapon banner? have a 60 pity but maybe i keep it for Camellya`s weapon
Ngl rates feel kind of ass in this game. Compared to games like Azur Lane anyways and ZZZ expects you to get 6 S ranks to max them out? That's a trap dawg. I love this game but damn 😭
I reached hard pity on Qingyi but decided to instead use it on Jane, so now I have Jane and just yesterday I got Caesar in 70 pulls, I won the 50/50 and now I will try to win again like when I won the 50/50 on Zhu Yuan and Ellen
Finally... I was missing your editing style for this past two weeks lol!
Sorry I took so long, but we here now :)
(Working on the 1.2 story now :3)
28:00 Oh, well, apparently this fight was SO EASY. Ambush Node 5 from the new version, though... Oh well, where do I begin?
oh no there is a new one!? oh am gonna die lol
@@HonkaiChaserit’s way harderrrrr enemies hit harder
@@Young_Mon oh am dead then
@@HonkaiChaser Harder isn't even the right word here. Remember Jane Doe doppelgänger? Well, we have more of these now. Not her in particular, but not much better, and each paired with a bodyguard, and they work as a team with their bodyguards.
Oh, and the floor have a unique way to greet you. You'll know. It's fun. XD
@@lainverse and let’s not forget that female one does ultra instinct 😂
Yow your play throughs are goated. Happy i discover you thru ZZZ. I feel like i will like any vid of any game youll play in the future
Thank you, am glad you enjoying the content It really means a lot :)
8:35 they said headphones recommended cause they know it sounds suspect lol
Yeah definitely sus lol and I like it lowkey
5:58 huh???????????
Honkai star rail also started with 10 floors of Memory of Chaos, then added 11 and 12 later on which were significantly harder.
yeah and I love that they did that :)
most of honkai star rails difficulty lies in your stat page and character roster, there'se not much skill involved
@@gauravmaharjan2207ZZZ, WuWA, Genshin, HSR, etc. all gacha games just boil down to luck and time investment at the end of the day. Money can circumvent those as well.
This is oddly fun to watch
This comment is oddly fun to read :3
11:14 That was the side she licked off btw 😅
Damn you right!
I love apples now
Carror for chariot is crazy
bro I slipped up, you didn't have to call me out lol
@@HonkaiChaser lmao I wasn't seeing it nowhere else I'm sorry
@@nzungupumu1350 lol
9:39 I lost right about here..
If I wasn’t recording that video..I would’ve said same.
You got Jane's weapon holy shit
Yeah my luck is still crazy for some reason 😅
@@HonkaiChaser bro I got raep'd on Caesar's banner.. all that grinding and I only got Rina.. Why don't you share some of that luck! 😤
@@ChrisWilliams-ur7fn oh noooo sorry to hear that bro
I would share some of my luck if I could but I think I used up all of my good luck lol
But I hope you pull Caesar soon.
@@HonkaiChaser Thanks bro. Save some of your luck for Miyabi banner I guess. Haha.
I definitely agree the late game content is definitely harder but it’s what I like to call artificial difficulty which isn’t automatically a bad thing but too much is definitely something I don’t like
I don’t think ZZZ has as much artificial difficulty as much as the other Hoyo games
But I do agree too much of it is bad, and I think every game has some sort of artificial difficulty.
@@HonkaiChaser I agree that’s why I actually play ZZZ unlike Genshin
@@eliejah5455 Yeah lol
well technically every dificulty is artificial it's just the matter if it's fun for player or not
shiyu defend critical node is not dificulty it's typical dps check in gacha game
other node however is actual skill check no time limit just don't die
I summon for Caesar king got her 2 multi her combos are insane
@@HectorNazario45 damn I'm jealous, all I got was Rina.. Burnice is calling so I can't risk it
Yooo congrats on pulling Caesar!
And not only her combos are insane but her personality is massive :3
Been waiting for you to post homie!
Thank you! Sorry for being late tho
Jane really does make the game easy😂
I think it's because the enemies are distracted by the dough or something lol
But yeah she's op
As far as luck on my rat pulls. I had enough to run the 90 down 3 times in hoping for an M2, but lost the 50/50 once and only got an M1 rat with basic dub engine, (was saving till the last day on dub engine until someone posted that the total rewards for 1.2 was equivalent to 18,000 polys and 20 limited pulls. With that much coming, I'm set for at least a guaranteed on one of them. Ideally Caesar since Burnice is just another damage dealer and we've got plenty of that already, Caesar brings something new)
I see…sorry about not getting M2 on the rat
I hope you have better luck next time you pull :)
But 18,000 polys and 20 limited pulls is crazy!
I didn’t know they are give that much in 1.2
(We eating good this update)
Looks like I found someone to watch in zzz content. NIce stuff
glad you found me :)
I hope you enjoy the content.
The Shiyu Defense is proper difficult. I have the Zhu Yuan team and Jane Doe team but gotta really focus to not KO easily. I love these Disputed/Ambush nodes.
Even if I don’t know how switch cancel, I still have to rotate all my characters properly or I die in a few swipes. I love this mode.
Yeah it's so good!
It literally forces you to get good at the game and I love it :)
its only hard because there is 2 boss enemies but 1v1 its just meh
I know, but it's still hard tho
It can be maybe 2 nd or 3th hardest hoyo game
That game have no challenge so the hardest kontent is with all dbuffs some mode
Impact is pbb the hardest
I see what you’re saying.
So which one is the hardest in your opinion?
@@HonkaiChaserdo you really see what he’s saying? I didnt understand a single thing he said lmao
@@azureknight729 bruh lol
he's sayin that the hardest content is with all the debuffs which he's probably talking about HZ but "pbb" tbh I don't what that is sorry @wojtek7779 lol
but I personally think Shiyu Defense D-Node floor 8 is the craziest s#$t I ever played in any hoyo game.
Send me his language pack later so i can install it, anyways, yea i agree hoyo is finally cooking with challenging content, zzz future is looking promising if we get more stuff like this.
@@HonkaiChaser impact
Honkai impact is sometimes harder
When co op comes out let’s play! I been loving this game too
Sure thing! sounds like fun :3
Those boxer are hard af
Yeah I know, they’re so annoying
5:54 on the bright side, I’ve already gotten 30 pulls this patch with just the new content and the $5 monthly sub.
So you’ll probably be able to pull for the section 6 chick (that isn’t Miyabi)
Though obviously the dailies help.
17:44 it’s basically just the wasteland that surrounds the city
28:07 the people that said it was easy only played the story, which your supposed to be able to beat for the story, and only played chapter one
Yeah I’ve seen the girl from section 6 on the ZZZ twitter account, that means Miyabi soon!!
And yeah the people that say is easy they probably jut played the first chapter and that’s it lol
I had similar luck with pulling Jane, but also with the W engines to. Decided to do a random pull to see if I could get Seths weapon only to get an S rank, it wasn't Janes, but a few days later I decided to do it again to get Seths only to get an another S rank getting Jane's weapon. So basically I got back to back S pulls from the weapon banner (I was no were near pity mind you) apparently the weapon banner is were all my Jane Doe Luck went. 😂
Yooo your luck is insane! congrats tho :3
hopefully our luck didn't run out on the Jane Doe weapon banner lol
Disputed node was the hardest thing in game but then it became easy with Jane, try the same with n without Jane for 2nd half.
The new inferno mode is fun and the last stage is hard but it cycles in 40 days n i m bored of waiting already. 😅
The new Jane boss should be relatively hard as well.
Yeah definitely, D-Node was ridiculously hard (with Jane btw) so I don’t think I wanna try it without Jane lol
@@HonkaiChaser I tried it a lot without jane before, when i got jane i went back and one shot won lol.
@@AashishPrajapati-nr2ox damn lol Jane is op
I should try it again too now that I have here W-E :3
the ritual you did was for he weapon banner, so it got saved until you decided to pull there.
Hahaha yeah probably.
subbed!
thank you! glad to have you here :)
Honestly it's not that the game itself is hard per se. The difficulty was artificially increased with ambush node by putting 2 enemies in the final floor that synergize REALLY well together (1 glass cannon ranged and 1 SUPER tanky melee), inflating the enemies HP, and significantly increasing the damage dealt. 1 on 1, those enemies are incredibly easy. I think you can call a game overall "hard" if the majority of the game is difficult or challenging. Most of the game itself is a cake-walk. It's just the 1 or 2 hyper endgame things that are pushed so far into sweaty gamer territory that it makes the game seem hard when it isn't completely hard.
I'll take synergistic enemies that deal crazy damage over massive bullet sponges. The enemies in disputed don't have inflated HPs beyond the usual health pools seen in later Shiyu stages. But in the end, it is a mobile gacha game so it's obviously not going to be Souls-like difficulty lol
@@tourist2222 The tanks guy IS a bullet sponge. Took my Zhu Yuan team 4 full minutes to clear that side and he wasn't even ether resistant. My Zhu Yuan team can usually clear Shiyu 7 in about 2 minutes. That dude took 2.5 FULL rotations to kill even AFTER I killed the elite shadow he was with.
@@Carnaj90 I just redid the shiyu 7 and disputed 7 with my Zhu Yuan team on both sides to make sure. And it does take longer to complete Disputed but the Tank takes the same amount of rotations for me on both sides (2.5 rotations). The reason it takes longer is because its easier to deal with the mobs on Shiyu side compared to the glass cannon in disputed. This is just what I've found. My time on Disputed is a min longer to clear
@@tourist2222 couldn't have said it better myself.
bro that the ppoint making enemies move fast hit hard makes games hard
IMHO it is the hardest Hoyoverse game to play, hands down.
Yes, there are harder challenges in HI3 but this doesn't affect the main story, and in HSR you have to advance the balance level to open further parts to the main story, but the fights afterwards aren't more challenging if you're just patient enough to farm a bit of resources and improve your chars.
But in ZZZ you need to improve your inter-knot to open the main story and you've got to face the harder challenges to improve the inter-knot and you have to improve your chars to win those challenges, and to improve you chars you need to get resource from those VR tests, where you only get a decent amount if you increase the difficulty enough.
Still, not souls level, but quite taxing for casual players accustomed to GI's "play the complete story line with level 20 chars and netx-to-BIS equipment" or HSR's "start the farming runs and come back when they are finished to collect the loot."
IMHO? Which game is that?
Also about leveling up/ processing through the story in HI3, HSR, ZZZ for the hard content that’s just how gacha games are and also some games.
They do that so the casual player can enjoy the game and the hardcore player can get a challenge later on (I’m both of them btw:3)
So you shouldn’t expect a souls like game if you’re not playing a souls like game lol ( even though you kind have to level up in those games too/ progress)
You can still "genshin" content 😂 I got through all the story with lv 30s. This game is a lot more skill based, I'm not saying I'm skilful just you can cheese content if you're good enough.
Congrats! Now try the ambush node.. LMAO
Oh no… is the ambush one that bad!? Lol
girl and boy singing has NOTHING to do with what u get
oh I see lol
I appreciate the challenges, but nah I'm a dogshit casual so I ignore the last nodes. 😂 Not worth my sanity, I just enjoy the story lol
Understandable you just tryna enjoy the game :3
But if you’re ever up for a challenge, you know where to find it lol
i was rly lucky by Jane banner
in 30 pulls i got lycaon who i need for my ice team xDD
and 40 pulls later jane
but ceasar yea... 76 pull... at least no pity loose
Damn sorry to hear that your luck on Caesar was horrible
But at least your luck on Jane was insane :)
@@HonkaiChaser thanks =DD
today 67 on Shorekeeper in Wuwa
wish you and all of the viewer here good luck in there gacha games ^^
Did bro say that 76 pull is unlucky??????? I always get S rank at around 76 and I lost 50/50 on jane to lycaon and couldn't get enough pulls for another 76 for jane
@@MelonenVodka117 thank you :)
I'll try to get ShoreKeeper too, I hope I have good luck
@@HonkaiChaser i wish too =D
bro one question about wuwa when the next banner is coming are you keeping the pity on the limited weapon banner?
have a 60 pity but maybe i keep it for Camellya`s weapon
Ngl rates feel kind of ass in this game. Compared to games like Azur Lane anyways and ZZZ expects you to get 6 S ranks to max them out? That's a trap dawg. I love this game but damn 😭
That’s kind of all hoyo games unfortunately (some more then others tho)
I get what you’re saying tho, but same I love this game too :3
Are you sure you have enough strong will to not pull for those lovely gals from Calydon? :D
It’s not about being strong, it’s about not having the funds lol
Ever since I pulled Jane, I noticed that playing with one hand is significantly harder than I expected lmao
bruh lol
please stop with the random zoom in zoom out cropping editing, I'm trying to watch the gameplay footage, not a tiktok edit.
Random zoom in and zoom out?
Okay👍
I reached hard pity on Qingyi but decided to instead use it on Jane, so now I have Jane and just yesterday I got Caesar in 70 pulls, I won the 50/50 and now I will try to win again like when I won the 50/50 on Zhu Yuan and Ellen
Nice! Congrats on pulling Caesar :)
Hopefully you win your next 50/50 when you pull again.