Goodbye WMATA 2000 Series
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ต.ค. 2024
- WMATA suddenly announced that Friday, May 10, 2024 would be the day the 2000 series trains retire. Time for a tribute to these icons from the 1980s. Some of these cars had carpeted floors!
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I am also from 1983 and break down four times as often as my younger peers. Can I retire now, please?
Sameeee
Hahaha, no
You arent 67 yet (the federal government keeps raising the retirement age)
Remember, these trains are twice as old as the acelas. Most trains last insanely long
DC metro is really modernizing
Yep, they’re doing a great job
True but the 2000s never run triple digit speeds. Still the collective mileage of the fleet is nothing short of incredible!!
@@russellgxy2905 Many high speed trains still manage to last for ten more years than the Acela.
Also remember that the cars on the acela are not designed for high speed service because they are not tgv cars but instead lrts from via rail
The 2000/3000/4000 series were built by the same manufacturer - Breda in Italy. 20 years ago the 2000/3000 series were rehabbed to give them 20 more years. The 3000 series are a few years newer then the 2000 series
he literally said that in his video dude
That door chime on the older series is just so nice and a classic
I well remember riding the '83 Metro's all over the DMV. My sister lived in Annapolis and worked downtown DC. When I was visiting her, I'd ride in from New Carrollton. I moved to Annapolis in '87 for my first "real job", just out of college. Worked in Greenbelt.
Annapolis is such a lovely little town
@Thom-TRA actually, my sister retired from a large DC law firm. She moved back to Southern West Virginia (where were from originally) and sent me a message this week being back in Annapolis visiting friend up there.
Annapolis has grown tremendously, but I still come up occasionally to see my DMV friends.
@@amylaneioSo is Columbus, Ohio (and possibly many other state capitals).
@@mbclev you know, after actually searching, it turns out that Lansing, Michigan is the only state capital that ISN'T a county seat. I don't know where I got the idea that Annapolis was the ONLY one that IS, but it's a "fact" I thought I knew for almost 30 years that I now know isn't true.
Thom, 41 years is a very long stretch for heavy rail vehicles, wow!!
They’ve earned it 💪🏼💪🏼
Watching a WMATA video on Wmata, that’s just vibes right there.
Best place to do it
These trains are recognizable from all the trips I've taken to DC and probably have ridden this series on at least two occasions. Sad to see them go, but then these trains are 40 years old and you can't keep them forever. I hope the Washington Metro has a heritage fleet like CTA.
DC shouldn't have retired their old WMATA cars. What they should have done instead is to place all the unreliable railcars out of service and then place them back in service after it is fixed regardless of age of railcars
I am old enough to remember when the 1000 series subway cars were brand new and they were built and tested in the yards and the first segment of the Red Line. Me and my late mother had her first vacation in Washington D.C. in 1976.
Wow! I hope this brings up fond memories
The earliest trains often had door-closing troubles. Seems the weight of We The People flexed the fusilage so much that the doors would jam in their slots. The driver would ask passengers to shove the stuck doors shut.
@@johnchastain5657 Oh, man! I remember those days! LOL! Sometimes, the doors would shut just barely, and the operator would manually drive the train with the door whistling until the next stop in which the station manager would come out and assist. LOL!
Anybody else remember ye olde fare gates, the ones that grabbed your paper ticket and (usually) spit it back out? When exiting, they'd also print the amount remaining on the ticket.
Trouble was, they ran so fast, they would sometimes jam. Eventually Metro slowed them down from 0.5 seconds to 0.8 seconds... and eliminated 80 percent of the malfunctions.
I don’t remember them in DC but I remember them in other places!
I have a paper WMATA One Day Pass still hanging around. It says "Valid Through 10 13" but I dont know if that's month/day or a full date. Either way it's a cool memory of the past. The Future is Riding on Metro!
@@Thom-TRA Yeah, Chicago's old "I.C. Eclectic," as we Hyde Parkers called it, had similar tickets... but the actual trains showing up was more of a problem. That line is now the "Metra Electric South Shore" Line, and I bet the U. of C. students of today call it the "M.E.S.S." ;-)
Once you retrieved your paper ticket, the gate would open. Sometimes, the ticket would pop up and out, the gate would open up. If you weren't quick enough to gate would close on you. My leg got stuck on a gate several times in the 90s.
I think BART had similar tickets too! I liked the orange “paddles” that the Metro has.
We salute you WMATA 2000 series trains 🫡 the grandfather of 80s italian metro luxury.
YOU WILL BE MISSED! 😢
I like longer passenger trains myself. Yeah, they present certain mechanical and energy issues I'm sure, but it's just such a rare thing to have a long passenger train, and moving so many people all at once.
Longer trains were so easy for operators to overrun the platforms. LOL Especially with the 1000 and 2000 series cars before refurbishment.
These are the trains I remember from my childhood growing up in DC
I wish the newer models still had the red white and blue stripes at the ends
I am guessing the money train for the DC Metro is the same, or similar, to the New York City money train? Also, it is always sad to see a train retiring. I have rode on those Metro a few times while visiting DC. I always enjoyed them.
Yes, it collects cash from fare machines throughout the system
I may have already got to ride the 2000 series when I was visiting DC last month. I think I remember now that I possibly rode one of those trains with carpets when I was there in the summer of 2017. I did get to sit in the cushion seats though which are comfortable of course.
The carpets were very common back then so you probably did!
I really love the flashing lights on the platforms when a train is in the station.
It’s one of my favorite things here in DC!
@@Thom-TRA Same!
Wow. Those look just like the old BART trains which I road for decades in the Bay Area, also originally equipped with carpet!
Happy Retirement, 2000s!!! You were awesome!!! 🎉🎉🎉
I am impressed with your story telling: how you fashion a narrative around the history of a topic.
Thank you!
At least we still have the similar-looking 3000 series. Enjoy those while ya can.
I didnt know they werre retering ah man im going to go somewhere and cry lol but I seen a new video on your channel you posted about the 8000 series they look so cool fire
Goodbye😢 2000 series You will be missed
I like how the 1000 series trains sounded when stopping at the underground stations. They sounded like a combination of a siren and a whistle. Like I said, it could have been the breaking mechanisms.
Sounds about accurate
In their final years of service, they were almost always paired up with the 3000-series with a few full set of 2000-series trains being mixed in. They were running strong in their final months of service and were one of the key factor to keeping WMATA afloat with their 7000-series problems back a few years ago.
Also when I went back to DC in March, they had a bunch still running, happened to catch it on the Green Line twice. However shortly after I left they were basically pulled from service and my operator friend confirmed they were all in cold storage in April.
I remember these pre-refurbishment by Alstom: the induction and [braking] sounded completely different (the 2000, 3000, 4000 series all had the same type of motor and braking). They were the trains I thought of as a kid when I thought of Metro. Even now, I miss those sounds. The door chimes too were different.
Thanks for a long and welcomed service, 2000-Series trains. You will be missed.
The 2ks were legendary and had such a great ride and they'll always be in our hearts but at the same time they can't run forever. Everything has an eventual expiration date and it helps us grow now and in the future
They lasted a good long time!
@@Thom-TRA yessirr in fact like the 1ks they actually lasted a year longer than they were supposed to if i recall. 4 years rather than 40
This was my childhood train 😞I’ll miss these the same way I’ll miss the Orion v’s and the de62Lfa😞
I can beat that! I am old enough to remember the BMT Standards that were built during the World War 1 era and were still in service in NYC during the Mad Men era of the 1960s. 😊
Love all the nostalgia going on over here
I lived in Springfield, Virginia from 1985 to 1988 and I would park at the end of the yellow line and take those trains into downtown Washington.
oh wow, thankfully I went to Washington DC at the end of March 2024 and I at least rode them once
Lucky!
i remember riding car 2000 and i rode it two times on different occasions
Thank the LORD this was long overdue
Rode these in DC several times. 40 years Is a long run for train cars.
They were only six years old when I rode them in 1989.
Little babies
Great video Thom! Impressed on the quick turn around time. GM Randy did hint at a sort of a going away idea for the 2K cars. A "final ride" would be really cool to see them do. Although if the final train ride isn't carpeted I may be a bit upset. lol
Really hoping for a farewell run
I still remember those carpet floors as a kid and thinking how "clean" it was. That changed quickly once I became an adult lol; those 2000's have earned their retirement 🫡
Kinda surprised they chose now to pull the plug on the cars instead of waiting until the 8000 series was further along in development.
I was surprised too!
Thank you, Thom, for another perfect video! I rode the DC metro once, years ago. I think I remember carpeted floors and padded transverse seats. Very luxurious! Thank you again for a great job!
Glad you remembered a comfy ride!
This is sad, i really wanted to ride in the carpet but i lost my chance :(
This is apparently the 5000th video in my Likes folder now
That is an honor I do not take lightly!
Thanks for sharing this. I remember riding the 2000s and 3000s and even 1000 series on family vacations to DC. I wish my local trolley museum in Kingston, N.Y. could get one of these 2000s to complement the MARTA car it obtained last year to help represent the Great Society era metro systems. I remember before the traction motors were rehabbed more recently the 2000s and 3000s used to sound a bit like the sound the Taz Looney Toon character makes when he spins when they were acclerating. The carpets were cool, but I think its better off without them.
As someone who lives in Arlington and is a huge metro fan I remember taking these old trains a lot, the trains are more focused for an RER style system and lack the new capacity that the 8ks will bring to the table
The 8000s can’t come soon enough
Worth the wait tho dawg
Great video
Thanks!
@@Thom-TRA welcome 🤗
The original carpets were orange and brown like the original seat cushions. It was actually a nice look. Very warm colors that worked with the overall color scheme with the brass handrails, brown platform pylons, etc. I think the shift to cooler colors began in the 00s.
I’m sure it was very impressive when people came to visit
I do remember growing up with those 2000 series Bredas, and they really are iconic to the DC Metro as I still call them "Brownies." Sure, they've outlived their purposeful lives, but they really should have been retired about 20 years ago due to their reliability issues (I do recall riding home from work one snowy night from Greenbelt and the heater literally blew out while making the high speed run in the tunnel between College Park and the former Prince Georges Plaza station -- thankfully, no smoke or fire). As you said, the seats and carpets were boujie (LOL), they gave those trains a scent you'd never forget, even if it was funky. How often do you ride a train with a cleaner running the vacuum in between 3 stations? So many memories I have with those 2000 series trains (some 1000 series were similar with the carpeting and seats, but with HORRIBLE speakers inside that would squeal so loud you'd think your teeth would jump out of your mouth in protest), just like with WMATA's venerable Flxible Metro bus fleet. I'm showing my age, aren't I? LOL
I remember boarding a train at New Carrolton in a massive thunderstorm. The doors were open and the car was being flooded. I recall the carpet. My thoughts were, that’s no good. Mold! But we all survived. :-) 😅
Squish squish squish go your footsteps after that
I tried to find a 2000 series car yesterday just for one last ride, checked every line of the system, yet nothing in the couple hours I spent looking. The one upside was that I found car #3000. I’m glad 2000 & 2001 are being kept for preservation, though!
I called WMATA and they said they were running, but on social media they said they weren’t. It was confusing.
Yeah, I thought the notice was a bit vague on whether they were running Friday or not, too. I took my chances anyway!
It's sad to see so many trains go including this one
The Metro is louder inside than I realized. I was watching a lecture with earbuds. Don’t think the car was carpeted.
what a sudden departure! (get it?) hopefully, the carpeted floors and comfy chairs can make a comeback in the future.
Carpets? No thanks. They were usually dirty. The seats on the newer models are OK.
and PATCO re-habed their entire original fleet from the 1960s
I will definitely miss these trainsets for sure!
The carpet in the old trains looked nice... for a month or so, then not so nice, even after cleaning. Supposedly they were cheaper than the rubberized stuff used everywhere else, and they dampened noise (as well as themselves.) I won't miss the carpet.
And did I mention that those armrests could deliver some nasty surprises, if the train started moving while you were sitting down? Ouch!
I do not like the armrests for that exact reason. I have a permanent whole in my side from one!
With 2000's fate already sealed by Metro, 3000's fate will soon begin in 2017. We can still ride the 3000 and 6000 Series Trains while they last untill 2045.
the 3ks are gonna be gone in 2-3 years while yes the 6ks are still relatively new and would last until 2045 or so if their full lifespan plays out
Carpeted urban railway train! That is super interesting because I have never heard of this concept in other urban rail systems, but at the same time, I can see why they scrapped this idea for newer generations of trains. Luxurity does not belong to a metro system, I think.
Also, I realized that WMATA 2000 series is from the same decade with the some batches of the train type I take daily these days; BVG type F trains. I hope to see their retirement as well soon.
There comes a time when a museum is a better place for an old train!
Classic cars being retired. Never would’ve imagined how long they lasted.
40 years is pretty impressive!
@@Thom-TRA i remember riding them as a kid not knowing they were older than me.
Nice opening shot with the rainbow!
Thanks! It was a great day to film trains that day
also a 2000 series had all red sets i saw once
Goodbye
Really nice video as always
Hey thom great video. I was wondering if you were going to do a video of the Marc Brunswick line service soon ?
I just filmed a video on the Capitol Limited! But I’m sure I’ll do the Brunswick line another day
@@Thom-TRA sounds great I can’t wait for it to come out
You need to come up to Washington co Md to the new Siemens production line making the next generation of dc subway cars
You mean Hitachi! That would be cool to see
I prefer the 2000 and 3000 series trains over the 7000. The seats are more comfortable and there is a lot more leg room. The carpet was gross, and that red carpet is actually "newer" than what they originally had. Man that old carpet was inanely gross, it makes the red carpet look amazing. I remember one time I was on a 2000 series when it was storming outside, and water was pouring down from the ceiling above the door. The carpet had standing water on it, I'm sure it was never really cleaned up and just left to dry on its own.
Um… there is a lot more leg room in the 7000s. The seat construction takes up way less space. It’s why I prefer the 7000s, because I’m not bashing my knees against the back of the seat in front of me.
Not to mention those horrible arm rests on the old trains that hurt like crazy when you hit them.
@@Thom-TRA interesting, I find the opposite to be true. Perhaps I should clarify, the ones that are back to back, yes. But there are way more seats in those trains that don't have any seats in front of them, and aren't designated as an ada seat. The 7000 series only have a couple per car, and they are all ada seats. While on the older ones there can be even 8. I'm 6'4" so there is never enough leg room for me in general. I will give you the arm rest though, I don't care for those, but I always sit alongside the wall
@@austinlawler3739 but then you stand up to get off, the train jolts and you still bump up against the arm rest.
Brilliant video sir, will you miss the 2000 series?
Not really, the 3000 and 6000s feel the exact same
Money Train? A terrible 90's thriller about a money train in NYC... Seriously though I am a fan of carpeted rapid transit cars even if they are from a throwback pre-pandemic era... Edmonton also had them for a while in a creamy peanut butter brown but have since been retired for generic rubberized PVC flooring... Calgary also had a cool texturized rubber mat flooring but again that's been replaced by bland PVC...
Creamy peanut butter brown sounds so charming and so gross all at the same time
Fun fact: they were built in Pistoia, Italy, and assembled by Amtrak at their Beech Grove Shops.
As a Dutch person I have my reservations about trains built in Pistoia, but these stood the test of time!
@@Thom-TRAYes, in the Netherlands we a Fyra trauma. 🧐
@@Thom-TRA I didn't know you were Dutch!
these trains are as old as the Caracas metro 10000 and 20000 series trains (also from 82-84), most of which are out of operation due to poor maintenance as a result of our economic crisis; some of them still run tho, and a couple have been refurbished
as a fun fact, the WMATA trains actually played a big role in the design of the classical Caracas metro trains, and they share the hexagonal body shape and the bare aluminium finish
Never knew that connection!
I like the Door chime on the 2000 series. The new one is harsh
Love those epic arcflashes at 0:21 and 5:40 !
Always satisfying to catch that on camera
What WMATA should have done with the 2000 series was to place all of those cars out of service to do repairs, just like what they should have done to the 1000 series, the 4000 series, and the 5000 series, just in case when the newer 6000 series, 7000 series, and the 8000 series have reliability issues
I’m hearing some weird audio throughout the video. I’m not sure what it is but maybe you could check it out.
You’re probably playing something else at the same time. There’s no weird audio in this video.
I hope the Money Train has nothing to do with the movie "Money Plane".
I enjoyed that video👍👍
I’m glad!
Before June 2009 the Metro was automatic almost all the time. The heyday was back when I was in elementary school
They’re going back to that!
@@Thom-TRA I'm betting this with the new vehicles.
rainbow. beautiful sight. )
Yes :)
Wow they changed the color of the money train lol?
Last year. It’s very upsetting. Luckily I have footage of both.
@@Thom-TRA oof I see. I haven’t been down there since 2011 so I’m sure things have drastically changed
@@mtattrain2 things weren't very much different up until 2020. When covid first hit yah it became much more different than in 2019 or 2018 or 2015 or 2011 or whenever
Is this a farewell party
When the 8000 series trains arrive, they start retiring the 3000 series
they aren't retiring them until 2026 or so
We think an agency is gonna buy and repurpose them?
Nah. They’re really old. Plus, WMATA operates on a track gauge that’s 1/4 inch narrower than standard gauge.
Metro is using 2 6000 series cars as the money train
yes dude we all know
Now that Metro is running more 7000 series as 6 cars trains, they can remove the 2000 series. Ridership is still not completely recovered the pandemic.
he said all this in his video. how come you keep spamming this guys vid over stuff he covered in it?
Eww wt fart smell was that goop
Probably you. I smell it too.