That's because you guys are still in the dark ages, here in 'Murica we have our faces glued to our phone, yes even while driving, so we need a 3rd party to give us a 'heads up' on a vehicle in front of us. Don't hate, tailgate! Jk
I no you guys should have way more sub then you do, because this is the best truck channel on TH-cam. But the fact that you guys are always trusted to receive the first trucks out to review, really shows how professional you are, and how much the companies trust and approve the testing you guys conduct for the general public. Well done gents!🍻
I am really impressed with this truck getting around 20 mpg doing 80 mph on the highway in some states. Plus the comfort of the ride you mentioned. WOW
That was some super mileage and a good review of the truck. I'm very happy that you guys finally got a 2020 Chevy truck to test. Looking forward to see more reviews. Thanks for sharing Andre.
The fuel tank size and the fuel mileage are impressive. I averaged 15.4 in my 2019 Ram 3500 on my way back home to Westminster from picking it in Boise. After seeing this video, I now have tank size envy.
Whachis if range becomes an issue I will go that route. Thanks for the suggestion. Is there a specific site or place you can recommend to buy the Titan fuel tank?
@@the_ghee_spot I know you can go to their website and buy it, or use their dealer locator that may help find someone to buy and install it in your area.
Trading in for a newer vehicle was never a money making proposition so there isn't a true "loss" since there is NEVER a gain (I'm a daily stock trader). It's trading in for the new features like the refreshed engine (see Gail Banks video on why this makes sense), the new camera package, and the interior upgrades. The 2 mpg gain helps offset the cost of hauling a fifth wheel all over the country.
I've got a 2018 dually 4x4 CC...if I'm putting less than 65mph on highway, I can do 22mpg all day...usually around 20mpg at 70-75. I'm amazed at the fuel economy of this big truck. Was definitely a bonus, as I would have been happy with 16mpg.
DDA40Xman same so many people don’t watch when walking behind cars and my fear is a little kid getting behind me who’s short enough that I can’t see them over the bed
at 13:13 of video shows he is backed into space with mirrors pulled inward. At 13:20 shows he is pulled nose in. So he moved truck around to complain about this.
it's not that they figured it out Jamaal, they put it there so ignorant people won't mix up the fluids. Yes, it's more convenient where they have it now.
@@jasonlarsen3515 Nope, Wrong! I know for a fact they put it there so ignorant people don't mix up the fluids. Yes, this has happened to people and it is documented. That's why they are clearly marked and different sizes.
Born and raised in Ogden, Ut. Here and in the surrounding areas we love our diesel trucks and use them for towing in the mountains as you can tell. Glad to host you guys for a quick minute. Can not wait for my truck to roll off the assembly line. I’ve always thought the GMCs looked better so I’m sticking with that but that’s a beautiful truck. It’s been like Christmas everyday since I ordered it!
I'm a gm truck guy but man I do not like the front grille on the Chevy, the GMC looks good but the 2020 Chevy grille looks like it was put on upside down
Did Chevy give cylinder deactivation for the hd gasser? I know ram did and have not seen that review either.....that's what's hurting the hd gas section is a cylinder deactivation but as a computer option or switch inside the truck.
these guys have hard-ons for diesel; That's pretty much all they review. When they do review gas they fail to mention that a diesel is 10K more, fuel is more expensive. its 10K more to register, which is big in some states. There's another review where someone shows that the cost of ownership for a diesel is about 500.00 better than gas per year given the added fuel cost and maintenance of the diesel. with that said a diesel owner would have to keep the truck 18 years to make a diesel a better buy. That wasn't taking into account the added 10K in tax and registration. Long story short Diesels are way more expensive to own. As for the "they hold their value better", that's also a facade....they cost 10K more, therefore they should have a better resale by that 10K bloated price tag.
That was a really cool test! I love this kind of stuff! Now go do the same test with the new 6.6 gas version of the truck please! I want to see how the gas motor stacks up against the diesel!
Maneuverability still matters on a truck. Nobody expects the turning radius of a prius, but if a Ford and Ram can make tighter turns and in general maneuvers better, that matters a lot at that size. Maybe even more so than on a smaller car.
@@tactickleshtooper1753 As far as I know this truck's turning radius is pretty good, he's just complaining because he's not used to driving trucks. I drive a much bigger truck and I don't complain about it's maneuverability. Point is, you should expect the maneuverability to be slightly different when you're getting into a bigger vehicle. So stop whining and man up! I'd be complaining more about that sticker price: $73k?! GTFO! No offense to anyone. Andre, spasiba bolshoya ;)
just drove my new GMC 2500 duramax home from dealer, 435 miles and got 19.3 alot of hills and 2 lane roads. Rides very nice and quiet. Lots of upgrades over 2019
Amazing video Andre! Love the truck! Really love the new 10 speed allison! And for all you Canadians like me 19.9 mpg = 11.82 L/100km that's incredible!
I can see my grandma's and aunt's and uncle's houses behind the green fuel hose at 14:38. I love Morgan, UT! I used to go sleigh riding as a kid, where that gas station now sits, before they leveled the large hill that used to be there. Thanks for all the great truck reviews. You guys always do a great job with fair reviews. I am considering buying a new RAM because of your videos. After watching this video, I might even look into the new Chevy. The Chevy looks like it has improved for 2020. I love that new step at the front of the bed.
TFL >>> André's "gripes": 1) visibility, 2) passenger-side blind spot. Number 1 is kind of a given, the truck is BIG, but, please elaborate on issue number 2. And thanks for bringing us this review with the extra DEF info 👍😊
My 2017 Ram 3500 Mega Cab Cummins, Fully loaded Laramie, Aisin transmission with 3.42 rear end SRW. BDS leveling kit 2 inch, FOX 2.0 Shocks all the way around, BDS track bar, Rough Country steering brace, FOX steering stabilizer 2.0. 20x10 -25 offset TIS wheels, NITTO ridge grappler RT tires 35-12.5-R20 also I have 45 gallon extended tank in the bed of the truck. I took it across a country and my average was 17.5mpg on the hwy. In the city I usually get around 14mpg.
All that tech is nice but after a while it will stay in the shop more than being used that's why I stay with work trucks air CD player cruise control and power windows I'm good!
@@andyharman3022 naw not lazy just dont want to sweat driving home after a hard days work I always buy used I drive 100 miles to work every day cruise is nice
Great video, and awesome mileage. I would love to see the MPG degradation vs towing. You guys should think about buying a used travel trailer so you can compare with and without towing a real RV. Your tow simulations are usually using a construction trailer or horse trailer with water tanks, which mimics weight but not the wind resistance you get when tow a big box RV. A 28' used trailer at about 5k lbs unloaded would do it (Keystone Bullet, etc.). RV Trader will show what you can buy locally. A couple years old wouldn't cost all that much. Something to think about. Thanks again, love these videos!
I've been thinking somewhat the same thing. They need to do travel trailers to get the effect of aero drag on the large frontal area, and to experience directional instability of crosswinds, and of passing semis. I transport travel trailers for money, and the typical ball hitch that I tow is 8 ft wide x 11 ft high, 27 ft long, 7000 pounds. Fifth Wheels are typically 8.5 ft wide x 12 feet tall, but I tend to get better fuel economy with them than I do ball hitches. Fifth Wheels are also a lot more stable in crosswind conditions.
People don’t understand what kind of person buys this truck. Usually a family of 4 that does a lot of outdoor activities like camping or towing a boat. They want something that looks nice inside on the outside. The basically want a suburban that can tow 18,000lbs
777jones actually, towing a camper with a wife and two kids and all our stuff I’m nearly maxed out on my payload rating for my half ton. And we only have a little 23’ camper. If people want more like a 26-30’ camper (say they want their own separate bedroom space), then an HD truck is the only truck to safely haul those loads.
@@jamesdillaman What's in the bed? I have 4 kids and a dog. We tow a 28' Travel trailer with our Sequoia. 90% of our stuff goes in the trailer. The trailer is about 6000lbs to 6500lbs depending if we take water or not.
Geoff Moore well my payload rating is around 1200 lbs. Me, the wife and kids, and things in the bed total about 500-600 pounds. My trailer weighs 5500 pounds with a tongue weight of 600 pounds. That makes a total payload of 1100-1200 lbs. maxed out. As my kids get older I’ll either have to carry less stuff, load up the rear of the trailer (which can lead to unstable towing conditions) or upgrade to an HD truck.
WOOOOOW...almost 20!!! I have a 2006 Ford F250 SCREW Short Bed 6.0l Diesel 2wd 88K miles (7240# w/full tank) on two long trips 443 miles and 627 miles 24.7 mpg and 24.1 mpg (calculated by hand). never had a full tank get less than 18 mpg average...most tanks are 19-21 mpg. This one is a keeper, I get 11-13 towing my 5th Wheel!
Looks worse imo. The bowtie belongs on the hood like it always was till they did it with the square body and stuck with it even when their trucks go uglier. Finally when get Chevrolet back where it belongs and everyone bitchs.
Andre says, the LED headlight performance was good for the one night he drove. Enough light with regulars headlights to drive at night in the middle of Utah.
@@DD-1996 : I have a 2020 High Country and no, it doesn't. To be honest, I think we're going to have to start getting used to Start/Stop. I travel a lot and almost every vehicle in Europe has it and we're wanting higher MPG, sitting at idle at a light doesn't help fuel economy and that's where most vehicles will see an improvement in MPG by using Start/Stop. Now HD trucks on the other hand may not see Start/Stop for a while, but that's because we tend to use them differently.
New owner of a Ram 3500 4X4 long-bed, crew-cab with the Cummins. I will have to say....the Chevy was #2. I DO like the grill. Don't know why some other fellers are put off by it. And yeah....the Chevy 2500s are kinda-sorta in-between a 2500 and 3500.............it's more like a 3000.....lol. Good review.
I own a 2020 GMC Sierra 2500 HD, same engine, transmission, same interior, and ride. The gas tank is amazing, the fuel economy is amazing, and I adore the 10 speed.
I just found out today that if you put the truck in the L position it tells you what gear you are in...I am a Ford guy and was very impressed with this truck in the GMC Denali version. Keep up the good work!!!
I love the 6’10” bed. The 20mpg is pretty sweet. The interior is just ok. But that front end/grill is awful. No way I’d spend $80k on something that looks like that
I have a large truck as well and yes they are hard to maneuver in tight spaces, this is why you always back up in to a parking spot because it is much easier to drive out instead of backing out in a parking lot full of cars.
Nice review. I'm signing up to get one but the sales people actually don't know much about it. No surprise there! I'm tuning in to your other reviews to learn more about this awesome truck...
It is exactly otherwise with DEF, or AdBlue like we call it. It's only in use when you don't need much power, because the engine works best and cleanest when you floor it.
Pretty good MPG considering the curb weight. My 2014 short bed crew cab Cummins before mods and a 3.42 rear end was getting about 20-21mpg on the highway at 70-75mph. Once I put a lift kit and 35 inch tires, I lost 2mpgs with dpf/scr system in-tact.
Nice comment. It stands to reason that the lift and tires mean less fuel economy, even if the tires are larger in diameter. I still hear from friends or strangers in casual conversation that they are surprised fuel economy goes down when customizing the truck like that. You are further proof of the results. Thanks.
I really hope they dont do that. Most of these fools have a hard enough time at 70 not killing them self! But most interstates are not rated for thst high of a speed anyway. To many curves, hills, blind spots, and poor overall road condition.
You guys are on crack. Wouldn't be caught dead in that shit wagon air conditioner. They ruined a pretty decent looking truck. If I was buying a Chev now it'd be a Sierra.
I average about17mpg in town, and high score of 27+ in a 3500!!!! I have found that the 360* camera times out after 7 seconds if you are going over a certain speed( ibeleive its like 8mph), if you creep slow through the parking lot it'll stay on. Best truck ever.
Andre, this is really interesting. HD trucks are getting back to that 20mpg ish number like they used to get before the emissions systems and torque/power wars! lol.
I’d say definitely more then that, the current L5P’s have been picking up in some cases 7 mpg’s, so if that combined with the 10 speed is any indication, over 30 mpg’s could be a very attainable number, won’t know until someone does it but it’s very possible.
Just drove one of these truck back from Milwaukee Wisconsin to Mesa Arizona. The trip was about 1900 and I got 16.9 miles. You can drive about 600 miles on a full tank
Great test Andre. How large are the front seats? Are the bottoms wider and longer? I didn't like the last gen. and bought a Ford because of it. The truck is made larger but I need to sit in one to see if I could drive 400 or 500 miles in it and not want to get out desperately. I'm 5'9" tall and 200lbs. Not exactly huge for a seat not to fit. What about the alignment of the steering wheel? Does it line up? Thanks.
I wonder if all of these new transmissions are gonna last like say an older 6 speed. Anyone feel the same way because now they're constantly shifting gears instead of staying on one. I feel like the more shifting that happens the more problems are going to have in a long-run for reliability. Something is going to wear out quicker with a constant gear change
According to the GM website turning radius is 52.7' which I believe is about a foot or so more than the previous generation. Makes sense I guess being that it's 10.5 inches longer than before
@@dank8017 thanks for the info I had an 89 half ton that was terrible and I had an 89 HD 3/4 ton. That would turn circles around the half ton. Who wants to do a 5 point turn in a two-lane road.
I test drove a high country earlier this week and even with all the disappointment with the interior design after seeing it in person and driving the truck it’s a lot nicer in person. GM has taken it on the chin but after driving all the big 3 in 2 days I fell in love with the Chevy.
Pretty sweet truck. Impressive MPG numbers, especially on a brand new truck. Not a huge fan of the exterior styling. Also it's way more truck then I would ever need. Can you do a video explaining DEF fluid?
"This truck tells me if there is a car in front of me"
In Soviet Russia we use windshield for that ....
That's because you guys are still in the dark ages, here in 'Murica we have our faces glued to our phone, yes even while driving, so we need a 3rd party to give us a 'heads up' on a vehicle in front of us. Don't hate, tailgate! Jk
yea ford trucks tell front, left, right and rear
And then you still crash into it anyway
Lol I love Russian comments
I've seen your Soviet videos and that's simply untrue.
I no you guys should have way more sub then you do, because this is the best truck channel on TH-cam. But the fact that you guys are always trusted to receive the first trucks out to review, really shows how professional you are, and how much the companies trust and approve the testing you guys conduct for the general public. Well done gents!🍻
I am really impressed with this truck getting around 20 mpg doing 80 mph on the highway in some states. Plus the comfort of the ride you mentioned. WOW
imagine what kind of mpg it will get doing 65 on some highways
I get 27 mpg going 60 to 65 with my 2018 hd. They are great , vut flipping expensive!!!
@@davidlusk4350 insane mpg! imo worth it!!!
@@Logenconze that's all highway, over 750 miles a tank. City is like 13 mpg at best drops like a rock!!
Almost as much as my subaru impreza...but I can't haul anything other than ass in my impreza :D
That was some super mileage and a good review of the truck. I'm very happy that you guys finally got a 2020 Chevy truck to test. Looking forward to see more reviews. Thanks for sharing Andre.
The fuel tank size and the fuel mileage are impressive. I averaged 15.4 in my 2019 Ram 3500 on my way back home to Westminster from picking it in Boise. After seeing this video, I now have tank size envy.
You can buy a Titan Tank 55 gallon, so nice cruising range. I haven't figured why they don't offer a larger tank.
Whachis if range becomes an issue I will go that route. Thanks for the suggestion. Is there a specific site or place you can recommend to buy the Titan fuel tank?
@@the_ghee_spot I know you can go to their website and buy it, or use their dealer locator that may help find someone to buy and install it in your area.
@@08fordfusi - I'm guessing they go with a smaller tank to
A- Save money and
B- Save weight to advertise higher payload capacity
I'm averarging 22.4 to 24.6 In my 2014 Z71 Silverado. 18.7 to 19 averarge hauling my two quad's..
Excellent video. 20 mpg is awesome. Looking forward to the same test of the gas version.
My 2018 GMC 2500HD is getting 18 MPG using TFL fuel measuring mechanism. Getting 20 mpg with the 2020 is another reason to trade in the 2018.
Trading in for a newer vehicle was never a money making proposition so there isn't a true "loss" since there is NEVER a gain (I'm a daily stock trader). It's trading in for the new features like the refreshed engine (see Gail Banks video on why this makes sense), the new camera package, and the interior upgrades. The 2 mpg gain helps offset the cost of hauling a fifth wheel all over the country.
P.S. the price of crude oil is tumbling again today, I just made $500 shorting OIL. :-)
@@DDA40Xman in that case, buy a Ford or Ram.
DDA40Xman Lol really? My 2018 CCLB 6.0L gets maybe 13mpg.
Impressive result, just over 11 liters per 100km's these big diesels just keep getting more efficient whilst increasing power output.
Wierd how that happens when you actually take the time to program the fuel system correctly so you reach stasis! I think this trend will continue.
And the quality is shit after 75k miles
19.9mpg is more like 14.2 litres per 100km.
Kelvin Hill Nope 19.9 US Gallons is equal to 11.8913 liters per 100kms exactly 😃
Garth Hayward I got 14.18L/100km. But that might have been a UK gallons conversion.
BEST REAL WORLD VIDEO YET!!!!!
WE NEED THE SAME WITH FORD AND DODGE PLEASE!!!!
Yes Please!!!
I've got a 2018 dually 4x4 CC...if I'm putting less than 65mph on highway, I can do 22mpg all day...usually around 20mpg at 70-75. I'm amazed at the fuel economy of this big truck. Was definitely a bonus, as I would have been happy with 16mpg.
Problem is towing mileage is garbage.
Interesting with 20 mpg average, great vid Andre👍
You guys are killing it I’ve been a fan since 50k you guys are the best reviewers on TH-cam
NEVER nose in park these size trucks. I always back in both my 2500HD's, makes it a LOT easier to get out, much better visibility.
Same here!
like your centennial avatar. You still have to back into the spot. lol
DDA40Xman same so many people don’t watch when walking behind cars and my fear is a little kid getting behind me who’s short enough that I can’t see them over the bed
@@flyaround5953 Or someone in their "Smart" car stops behind you, you'd think you ran over a speed bump LOL.
at 13:13 of video shows he is backed into space with mirrors pulled inward. At 13:20 shows he is pulled nose in. So he moved truck around to complain about this.
Great info Andre. This kind of data is really hard to get (and trust it) elsewhere. Bravo!
OMG! This 6.6 Duramax V8 Turbo diesel is so big but it got great fuel economy. I love this! (Fan from Thailand)
Find it looks like GM figured it out and put the def nozzle by the gas tank instead of under the hood good job
jamaal Me and center the steering to the drivers seat. So many high 5’s
it's not that they figured it out Jamaal, they put it there so ignorant people won't mix up the fluids. Yes, it's more convenient where they have it now.
@@bobhirdes6725 I never thought about that wonder how many people for the wrong fluids in the wrong spot
Bob Hirdes Chevy put it there because it was the easiest and cheapest way.
@@jasonlarsen3515 Nope, Wrong! I know for a fact they put it there so ignorant people don't mix up the fluids. Yes, this has happened to people and it is documented. That's why they are clearly marked and different sizes.
All the real world testing these guys do is great. And fun to watch. Thanks to the whole TFL Truck crew.
Fantastic review Andre! Truck looks amazing!
Born and raised in Ogden, Ut. Here and in the surrounding areas we love our diesel trucks and use them for towing in the mountains as you can tell. Glad to host you guys for a quick minute. Can not wait for my truck to roll off the assembly line. I’ve always thought the GMCs looked better so I’m sticking with that but that’s a beautiful truck. It’s been like Christmas everyday since I ordered it!
Excellent review! Looking forward to seeing the other diesel comparisons
I really enjoy fast-forwarding all these videos to the last minute. Great stuff, keep it up.
I'm a gm truck guy but man I do not like the front grille on the Chevy, the GMC looks good but the 2020 Chevy grille looks like it was put on upside down
It's growing on me
@Richard Nowak congrats, your still getting the bowtie reputation which you can't beat 👍
Even tho that has been a Chevy thing for decades suddenly it gets close to what it used to be it's weird.
Would Love to see the New 6.6 Gas Shakedown
Did Chevy give cylinder deactivation for the hd gasser? I know ram did and have not seen that review either.....that's what's hurting the hd gas section is a cylinder deactivation but as a computer option or switch inside the truck.
yes
@@jshapiro34 no cylinder is only on the 1500 trucks.
That's what I am waiting on.
these guys have hard-ons for diesel; That's pretty much all they review. When they do review gas they fail to mention that a diesel is 10K more, fuel is more expensive. its 10K more to register, which is big in some states. There's another review where someone shows that the cost of ownership for a diesel is about 500.00 better than gas per year given the added fuel cost and maintenance of the diesel. with that said a diesel owner would have to keep the truck 18 years to make a diesel a better buy. That wasn't taking into account the added 10K in tax and registration. Long story short Diesels are way more expensive to own. As for the "they hold their value better", that's also a facade....they cost 10K more, therefore they should have a better resale by that 10K bloated price tag.
That was a really cool test!
I love this kind of stuff!
Now go do the same test with the new 6.6 gas version of the truck please!
I want to see how the gas motor stacks up against the diesel!
The DEF pump at the gas station is mind-blowing awesome. Wish we hand that here, makes perfect sense.
Truck stops
The new rearview mirror/camera on the new Chevys has to be on my top ten list of cool features
OMG, I can't believe he complained about maneuverability...
It is a 2500 truck, not a Prius :-x
Chevy has the worst turning radius. A number of my customers won't buy one because of it.
Omg? What are you, 14?
Maneuverability still matters on a truck. Nobody expects the turning radius of a prius, but if a Ford and Ram can make tighter turns and in general maneuvers better, that matters a lot at that size. Maybe even more so than on a smaller car.
Maybe André means the truck's turning radius is worse than competition's trucks? I'd like further clarification too.
@@tactickleshtooper1753 As far as I know this truck's turning radius is pretty good, he's just complaining because he's not used to driving trucks.
I drive a much bigger truck and I don't complain about it's maneuverability.
Point is, you should expect the maneuverability to be slightly different when you're getting into a bigger vehicle. So stop whining and man up!
I'd be complaining more about that sticker price: $73k?! GTFO!
No offense to anyone. Andre, spasiba bolshoya ;)
Even seeing these in person I still don't like the look of it. I'm impressed with that mpg result though.
If I see you in person I won't like the looks of you either. go buy the inferior product of fugly ford and butt ugly ram.
Ha would take a Ford all day over that pile. Ugliest shit box ever!
@@bobhirdes6725 that's funny. You're just butt hurt cause Fugly Fords and Butt Ugly Rams are outselling the ugliest truck on the planet. Waaaahhh!
I'm a fan of the high country's looks. It's much more traditional. The other trims, I really don't like at all
That's why there's the GMC. Same truck underneath and looks a hell of a lot better.
just drove my new GMC 2500 duramax home from dealer, 435 miles and got 19.3 alot of hills and 2 lane roads. Rides very nice and quiet. Lots of upgrades over 2019
Hey Thanks a lot Andre...I was hoping you'd show this truck..Awesome Machine..Great review..Thanks Dude
Amazing video Andre! Love the truck! Really love the new 10 speed allison! And for all you Canadians like me 19.9 mpg = 11.82 L/100km that's incredible!
That 15 hour trip would be 9 days in a Tesla. 😏😀
This was actually the second Chevrolet. The first one broke down 500 miles into the trip second one made it the rest of the way.
More like 18 hours lol
@@inlinewhine you can’t get any inline whine with a Tesla
I can see my grandma's and aunt's and uncle's houses behind the green fuel hose at 14:38. I love Morgan, UT! I used to go sleigh riding as a kid, where that gas station now sits, before they leveled the large hill that used to be there. Thanks for all the great truck reviews. You guys always do a great job with fair reviews. I am considering buying a new RAM because of your videos. After watching this video, I might even look into the new Chevy. The Chevy looks like it has improved for 2020. I love that new step at the front of the bed.
TFL >>> André's "gripes": 1) visibility, 2) passenger-side blind spot. Number 1 is kind of a given, the truck is BIG, but, please elaborate on issue number 2. And thanks for bringing us this review with the extra DEF info 👍😊
Blind spot just lean forward when you want to look along with normal look into mirror. Blind spot fixed. Real simple
Great information TFL, I always look forward to being educated from this team, Thanks!
My 2017 Ram 3500 Mega Cab Cummins, Fully loaded Laramie, Aisin transmission with 3.42 rear end SRW. BDS leveling kit 2 inch, FOX 2.0 Shocks all the way around, BDS track bar, Rough Country steering brace, FOX steering stabilizer 2.0. 20x10 -25 offset TIS wheels, NITTO ridge grappler RT tires 35-12.5-R20 also I have 45 gallon extended tank in the bed of the truck. I took it across a country and my average was 17.5mpg on the hwy. In the city I usually get around 14mpg.
All that tech is nice but after a while it will stay in the shop more than being used that's why I stay with work trucks air CD player cruise control and power windows I'm good!
Meh! You're lazy. My truck doesn't have power windows! And sometimes, it doesn't even have air.
@@andyharman3022 naw not lazy just dont want to sweat driving home after a hard days work I always buy used I drive 100 miles to work every day cruise is nice
@@Danzilly 3 hours minimum on the road every work day? I thought my 86 mile round trip was too much time.
I’m just sitting here relaxing in my air conditioned seats 👌 so nice
Great video, and awesome mileage. I would love to see the MPG degradation vs towing. You guys should think about buying a used travel trailer so you can compare with and without towing a real RV. Your tow simulations are usually using a construction trailer or horse trailer with water tanks, which mimics weight but not the wind resistance you get when tow a big box RV. A 28' used trailer at about 5k lbs unloaded would do it (Keystone Bullet, etc.). RV Trader will show what you can buy locally. A couple years old wouldn't cost all that much. Something to think about. Thanks again, love these videos!
I've been thinking somewhat the same thing. They need to do travel trailers to get the effect of aero drag on the large frontal area, and to experience directional instability of crosswinds, and of passing semis. I transport travel trailers for money, and the typical ball hitch that I tow is 8 ft wide x 11 ft high, 27 ft long, 7000 pounds. Fifth Wheels are typically 8.5 ft wide x 12 feet tall, but I tend to get better fuel economy with them than I do ball hitches. Fifth Wheels are also a lot more stable in crosswind conditions.
People don’t understand what kind of person buys this truck. Usually a family of 4 that does a lot of outdoor activities like camping or towing a boat. They want something that looks nice inside on the outside. The basically want a suburban that can tow 18,000lbs
Johnathon Gallagher in other words, people who have no need for a truck like this.
777jones actually, towing a camper with a wife and two kids and all our stuff I’m nearly maxed out on my payload rating for my half ton. And we only have a little 23’ camper. If people want more like a 26-30’ camper (say they want their own separate bedroom space), then an HD truck is the only truck to safely haul those loads.
@@jamesdillaman What's in the bed? I have 4 kids and a dog. We tow a 28' Travel trailer with our Sequoia. 90% of our stuff goes in the trailer. The trailer is about 6000lbs to 6500lbs depending if we take water or not.
Geoff Moore well my payload rating is around 1200 lbs. Me, the wife and kids, and things in the bed total about 500-600 pounds. My trailer weighs 5500 pounds with a tongue weight of 600 pounds. That makes a total payload of 1100-1200 lbs. maxed out. As my kids get older I’ll either have to carry less stuff, load up the rear of the trailer (which can lead to unstable towing conditions) or upgrade to an HD truck.
I need 3/ 4 ton to haul my travel trailer and gear.
WOOOOOW...almost 20!!! I have a 2006 Ford F250 SCREW Short Bed 6.0l Diesel 2wd 88K miles (7240# w/full tank) on two long trips 443 miles and 627 miles 24.7 mpg and 24.1 mpg (calculated by hand). never had a full tank get less than 18 mpg average...most tanks are 19-21 mpg. This one is a keeper, I get 11-13 towing my 5th Wheel!
Looks wayyyy better with the bow tie in the middle, I really like it now
Looks worse imo. The bowtie belongs on the hood like it always was till they did it with the square body and stuck with it even when their trucks go uglier. Finally when get Chevrolet back where it belongs and everyone bitchs.
You're the best Andre. Always thorough and enjoyable.
Andre, can you comment on the LED headlights performance and perhaps how they compare to the new Ram's?
Andre says, the LED headlight performance was good for the one night he drove. Enough light with regulars headlights to drive at night in the middle of Utah.
This truck doesn’t have Auto Stop Start, does it? I wouldn’t want that on the vehicles I buy.
@@DD-1996 : I have a 2020 High Country and no, it doesn't. To be honest, I think we're going to have to start getting used to Start/Stop. I travel a lot and almost every vehicle in Europe has it and we're wanting higher MPG, sitting at idle at a light doesn't help fuel economy and that's where most vehicles will see an improvement in MPG by using Start/Stop. Now HD trucks on the other hand may not see Start/Stop for a while, but that's because we tend to use them differently.
@@DD-1996 even if it does....it can be bypassedif you want it permanently off 🤣......i hate Start/stop too....
Wayne Brissette me to mine is white
20 MPG in that big truck is awesome, especially with alot at 80mph. My 17 Explorer V6 only gets 18.5.
I enjoy the review, but TH-cam keeps inserting ads in the middle of Andre saying something. It is very distracting and confusing.
this man really bringing the value down on new trucks
Would love to see empty fuel economy numbers on all HD trucks.
New owner of a Ram 3500 4X4 long-bed, crew-cab with the Cummins. I will have to say....the Chevy was #2. I DO like the grill. Don't know why some other fellers are put off by it. And yeah....the Chevy 2500s are kinda-sorta in-between a 2500 and 3500.............it's more like a 3000.....lol. Good review.
Great job, André!
Excellent video analysis of this nice new offering from Chevrolet!! Great job, 👍
I just been fueled few days ago at same gas station in Oregon with my 16 GMC Duramax
I own a 2020 GMC Sierra 2500 HD, same engine, transmission, same interior, and ride. The gas tank is amazing, the fuel economy is amazing, and I adore the 10 speed.
Good Job on the review. Thanks 👊✌
I just found out today that if you put the truck in the L position it tells you what gear you are in...I am a Ford guy and was very impressed with this truck in the GMC Denali version. Keep up the good work!!!
The gauges on that truck look like a 2008 Malibu that I used to own
My Malibu use to tow 20,000 lbs also🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😍😍
I just got my new 2020 GMC AT4 2500 HD, went 85 miles up and down hills on I-84 going between 65 and 75 mph and I got 24mpg.
I love the 6’10” bed. The 20mpg is pretty sweet. The interior is just ok. But that front end/grill is awful. No way I’d spend $80k on something that looks like that
GMC version looks way better
I happen to love the quirky look of the front end it's so spastic and different that it is cool... I didn't think that at first though it grew on me
This channel is so addictive...
Would love to see the 6.6 gas HD texted as well. 👍
The 6.6L gas engine texted me personally and he said buy a diesel if you tow much....
I tested the 6.6 gas last month. While my 2018 duramax was getting something done. It was a slug, felt under powered, but very quiet!!
I have a large truck as well and yes they are hard to maneuver in tight spaces, this is why you always back up in to a parking spot because it is much easier to drive out instead of backing out in a parking lot full of cars.
Great job TFL as always. Thank you for what you guys do!
Nice review. I'm signing up to get one but the sales people actually don't know much about it. No surprise there! I'm tuning in to your other reviews to learn more about this awesome truck...
Regarding DEF, that's pretty amazing. Our 2017 and 2019 Peterbilt Car Haulers get 100mpg of DEF. Approximately 15 gallon DEF tank.
Andre was running unloaded. If he was heavily loaded, like the big boys are all the time, the DEF consumption would have been higher.
It is exactly otherwise with DEF, or AdBlue like we call it. It's only in use when you don't need much power, because the engine works best and cleanest when you floor it.
So how does this compare to a 2019 model with the 6 speed transmission? Was the MPG's better?
Your a lucky man you get to drive the latest trucks it look so fun
Wow ! Nice truck . Very impressed with fuel mileage
Pretty good MPG considering the curb weight. My 2014 short bed crew cab Cummins before mods and a 3.42 rear end was getting about 20-21mpg on the highway at 70-75mph. Once I put a lift kit and 35 inch tires, I lost 2mpgs with dpf/scr system in-tact.
Nice comment. It stands to reason that the lift and tires mean less fuel economy, even if the tires are larger in diameter. I still hear from friends or strangers in casual conversation that they are surprised fuel economy goes down when customizing the truck like that. You are further proof of the results. Thanks.
You should put the diesel cap back on before filling the def.
qball2000able why?
@@chestercalloway3812 To keep from putting def by accident in where the diesel fuel goes.
@Richard Nowak Another reason DEF us useless
Capless fuel tank
It’s so awesome that you guys were here in Redmond. I live a couple minutes away from that airport!
Hope you can do the 2020 ford 7.3 gas that much see what mileage is.
8 MPG probably
I’ll be glad when all Interstates speeds are raised to 80 MPH .... were still 70 in FL
I really hope they dont do that.
Most of these fools have a hard enough time at 70 not killing them self!
But most interstates are not rated for thst high of a speed anyway.
To many curves, hills, blind spots, and poor overall road condition.
Same trip with the Cummins and powerstroke now
Incredible efficiency there on fuel consumption for a HD. That's just amazing, and really unexpected from a realism standpoint.
Honestly, does MPG even matter if your truck is uglier than a Pontiak Aztek? I mean look at that 0:35. What was Chevy thinking?
it actually looks insane.. wait until you see one in real life.
Doesn't even look that bad, stop hating.
You guys are on crack. Wouldn't be caught dead in that shit wagon air conditioner. They ruined a pretty decent looking truck. If I was buying a Chev now it'd be a Sierra.
Dannick thibault they’re butt ugly
They are ugly, Robot arms for mirrors and they look like the pickup trucks in the fallout video games. Now the Gmc trucks got it going on.
I average about17mpg in town, and high score of 27+ in a 3500!!!!
I have found that the 360* camera times out after 7 seconds if you are going over a certain speed( ibeleive its like 8mph), if you creep slow through the parking lot it'll stay on.
Best truck ever.
for those prices you can almost buy a peterbilt 379 and rev up that badass cummins/cat engine in style
Every brand has been over 80 grand for 1 ton with options for a few years now
Andre, this is really interesting. HD trucks are getting back to that 20mpg ish number like they used to get before the emissions systems and torque/power wars! lol.
When people say DEF Fluid 🙄 Diesel Exhaust Fluid Fluid
Your point is falling on Def ears. 🙃
Def fluid DEFinitely sucks :-).
@@thawk1435 😂😂😂
Same when people say ATM machine. Automated teller machine machine.
Some people say DEFluid
This is a great test, and super impressive mileage!
If they get 20 mpg stock, imagine what they’ll be getting tuned and deleted
You will never know
@@SMiller5488 whatcha mean? Ppei cracked the code and have the l5p deleted and tuned !
I wonder how much better it can actually get though. Maybe 1 mpg
I’d say definitely more then that, the current L5P’s have been picking up in some cases 7 mpg’s, so if that combined with the 10 speed is any indication, over 30 mpg’s could be a very attainable number, won’t know until someone does it but it’s very possible.
@@shawncheecham9725 $3,000 for a tune...
Maaaaan as much as I don't want to say it...but it did kinda grow on me watching all your reviews and stories about the new HD
Wow that’s outstanding fuel economy!
Just drove one of these truck back from Milwaukee Wisconsin to Mesa Arizona. The trip was about 1900 and I got 16.9 miles. You can drive about 600 miles on a full tank
One minor point - "DEF fluid" is kinda redundant. ("Diesel Exhaust Fluid fluid"). Kinda like "going to the ATM machine..."
Kinda like people saying CAC Card (Common Access Card Card) lol
What’s your VIN number?
Something Obamas EPA created to screw americans over
NIC Card....
Great test Andre. How large are the front seats? Are the bottoms wider and longer? I didn't like the last gen. and bought a Ford because of it. The truck is made larger but I need to sit in one to see if I could drive 400 or 500 miles in it and not want to get out desperately. I'm 5'9" tall and 200lbs. Not exactly huge for a seat not to fit. What about the alignment of the steering wheel? Does it line up? Thanks.
How much mpg does it do when pulling the max towing capacity
Noe The Rancher
Not at max. But my ‘17 towing 12K at 65mph I’m averaging right at 12.5 mpg.
Don't fill the def with the diesel cap off the def can splash sometimes and if you have the diesel cap off you could get def in the diesel tank
Impressive MPG!! I'd love to see what the gas engine gets on the 2020 HD
I wonder if all of these new transmissions are gonna last like say an older 6 speed. Anyone feel the same way because now they're constantly shifting gears instead of staying on one. I feel like the more shifting that happens the more problems are going to have in a long-run for reliability. Something is going to wear out quicker with a constant gear change
Please include steering radius in your assessments. I've had some Chevys that were good and some that were terrible.
According to the GM website turning radius is 52.7' which I believe is about a foot or so more than the previous generation. Makes sense I guess being that it's 10.5 inches longer than before
@@dank8017 thanks for the info I had an 89 half ton that was terrible and I had an 89 HD 3/4 ton. That would turn circles around the half ton. Who wants to do a 5 point turn in a two-lane road.
I test drove a high country earlier this week and even with all the disappointment with the interior design after seeing it in person and driving the truck it’s a lot nicer in person. GM has taken it on the chin but after driving all the big 3 in 2 days I fell in love with the Chevy.
nice review. i love the blue color!
B-Ruckus But not the black interior!
DAM8658 I agree 100%. I will never buy another car with black interior
B-Ruckus Never had and never plan to have one. Not in south Louisiana! That’s 90% of what you see on dealer lots. Manufacturers are stupid.
DAM8658 it’s hot here in NC too and dealerships are the same way. I don’t get it
Great job on the video Andre. Impressed with the mileage on the new truck! Any chance you could do a brake performance test on these big trucks?
Last time I was in Oregon self serving gas stations were illegal
Oregon has finely changed that Law, so some or all stations are now self serve. I live in WA ST, and had heard about change on Local News.
Small populated counties allow self serve otherwise you can fill your diesel or motorcycle yourself.
Pretty sweet truck. Impressive MPG numbers, especially on a brand new truck. Not a huge fan of the exterior styling. Also it's way more truck then I would ever need. Can you do a video explaining DEF fluid?
Like a Rock!
Picking up 2020 GMC AT4 2500 HD diesel tomorrow for 65K and change, so if you shop around you can get some big discounts.
Great mileage. Out of my price range though.
Great video! I can't wait for you to review the GMC HD
80 grand for a truck. Insane.