I am Using 142 litters windsurf slalom foilready Partick(top class) windsurf board, with most simple and cheap Gong foil that bought 400 euros ,but now it is full with 200EURO such foils second hand(pretty cheap) front wing is 2200 square santimeters ( I weight 110 kilogram). Just Plug in foil and move from 9 square meters sail(my homespun is not very windy) to 7 square meters with foil. Nice and light and small sail for big and high guy like me. Already have 10 foiling sessions. 2 hours Pure fun per session. Always wear Long neoprene pants and boots. At beginning foil cuts legs like crazy!!!
Played this yesterday (podcast style) while driving up to my first try on the foil and everything went great on the water and was up almost right away. Absolutely great tips on this one.
Concentrating on learning how to foil this year, and I find your videos well done and informative. Thanks for all the effort that you put into them. I really like your sailboard videos also, as so much of the foiling game is based on having a solid windsurfing background.
A nice simple little video, I'm running a jp 135 foil board, with a pryde glide foil with a large front wing, more little simple tips, it's taken me a while, as was using small front wing, which wasn't enough lift.
Brilliant, I’ve been trying to stay away from this new toy as I don’t get enough time on the water but this very clear and straightforward demo has woken up some needs. I will now have to give this a try. Thanks. Very well explained.
Excellent. I am using the same RRD foil on the pocket rocket without strap. After 3 sessions I begin to fly over 500 m. By seing your video I think I have to put my hands more in backward.
Glad you’re enjoying the videos! Good tip on the front hand coming back, I’ve actually just been filming on the foil today and a lot of the demos & chat was about front hand going back for easy power-on and controlling consistency in flights. Good spot! 👍 Many more foiling videos coming soon- will mix up foils/fin, beginner to advanced!
Thank you so much for your useful videos. I've seen your front wing is very far back, almost below your back foot. My front wing is in the middle of boot feet. Could you make a video of setting up the equipment and another one for getting upwind on windfoiling?
Hi! Thanks for the positivity and really thank you for sharing about! Few more foiling videos on the way, improved stance, upwind/downwind positioning, and of course the foiling gybe!
Thanks so much for this super clear and helpful explanation!! I've just started windsurfing - much windsurfing will I have to do before I can learn to foil? Looks fucking awesome! Thanks :))
Cookie, hands down you are the best out there for instructional videos. Question please, ive been sailing 33 years...im recovering from a partial high grade tear in my elbow tendon..ive been thinking of having a go at foiling but, im wondering how much pressure i will feel in the rig with a foil on board versus rig pressure with using a fin...its important that i not overdo it. My husband starting foiling last season and he said he doesn't feel much pressure in the sail/rig...its less than he normally feels. Hard to know really as he's just learning too...what are your thoughts? Much appreciated 👏
Thank you thank you! Learning a new sport will always put more force and strain on your boast than doing something you can already do… if you are competent and both fin and foil then yes, a nice meagre free-ride foil set up will is not much effort or strain… but learning… not the same story!
Thank you so much! With this tutorial I instantly started to foil on my AV Chubby 127 l combined with the Severne Red Wing. Also a great combination. Looking forward to more foiling videos, e.g. "how to foil upwind in very light wind"
Thanks Bob! The one used in this video is the RRD universal WH AL set, 85cm mast and 1582cm front wind. Very goo all round low aspect foil for lighter winds and learning. As the wind gets stronger (and too strong for the foil and sail I'm on) it's quite an easy swap to keep the same sail and change to a fin board!
I got the slingshot hoverglide fsup v3 foil, I wonder if I can put that on a wind surf board too? Whats a good board and sail setup going right now for beginners?
To be honest the windsurf hybrids aren’t great for foiling on… I struggled to make this look easy! 😜 Have a look at my newer videos and you’ll see…. th-cam.com/video/rAD-zFdbDAI/w-d-xo.html
Excellent Video Cookie simple and straightforward. I would also suggest a Strapless option for learners as it is just one less thing to deal with; especially with a board that has an outbound strap placement. It allowed me, and folks I taught, to move around just a bit to find the balance point quicker. Strapless also allowed me and others to fly our first jibes quickly and safely. Once the learner gets the basics I think footstraps allow for more advanced foiling. What do you think?
Thanks for watching Adrain. Strapless back foot, 100% with you- I often remove the back strap for teaching first time foilers for reasons mentioned in this video and you agree with here.
@@Cookiesports In case I was not clear, I also found removing the front straps, on big (>140L) learning boards that have an outboard strap placement, helped beginners stay balanced through their first flights and even when learning to jibe. Some beginners, that had tried foiling with straps advanced quicker once they tried foiling without straps. Later they advanced to straps or preferred to stay strapless. Just my 2% worth hope it helps.. Also your advise on learning with a bigger wing is right on, >1500 seems best.
Interesting idea, but I won’t be taking front straps off any of my students (or my own) boards in the near future I’m afraid. Put the front straps a little larger than usual and as inboard as possible and it’ll work fine on 99% of boards. If something goes wrong and they’re not connect to the foot straps the likelihood of falling on the foil is greatly increased- even if we’ve made it very clear to them to not ever let go of the boom. Also the riders need to be connected/locked to the board with something- the front strap- but the back foot can move a bit. No locked in front foot makes the board super hard to control- it’s like full speed planing without straps- possible but not nice! I tried it without the front straps as a little experiment and really don’t recommend it to anyone- especially not students! Sorry to disagree, but glad you like the video! 👍👍👍👍
@@Cookiesports don't be sorry and thanks for your perspective, as I explained my experience as been excellent teaching foiling without straps beginners just find in easier to learn. I think it's because beginners should be doing what you explain so well in the video, finding a balance point to put pressure forward or aft of the foil, beginners are not pulling up on the straps. I have foiled with straps and I agree there are some advantages but only for advanced manoeuvres. On the safety side I have seen friends and students twist their ankles falling in one or both straps. Also saw the cut a foiler got falling back on the foil when stuck in the straps. While I have never seen or heard of anyone getting hurt while foiling strapless, but that's just my experience . Thanks again for the feedback, have fun foiling!
I started foiling 6 months ago on slingshot 125 with infinity 76 foil and after doing first sessions with both straps found it easier to get balance point going strapless. Then in May I had to suddenly avoid a rope under the water and tried to bear away under it and stop quickly. Windsurf instincts took over and whilst banking and releasing sheet pressure the foil kicked the board up and the board broke my ankle. Now 6 months on I would like to restart but want to avoid further incident. I think I bent my knees to sit on the board as the board kicked up. Anyway it is possible to break an ankle even without straps!!
Hi! I know this video came out a long time ago so I don't know if I'll get an answer. I learned a lot from watching your videos and spending hours in the water harping on and on until it worked. I have an intermediate level in fin windsurfing but I dream of one day going foiling. How can I find out when I'll be good enough to switch to foiling ? Thanks in advance !
Hiya! I’m always going to reply for as long as I’m active on this channel! 🤙🤙 To start fouling to need to be pretty confident in both footstraps. Come to Vass next summer and I’d be happy to coach you… we can start on a fin and build up! 🤩
Enjoying all of your windsurf, and these windfoil videos - keep them coming please! I went out for my first windfoil session today on a 5.3m2 sail on an RRD Pocket Rocket 180, and I think the same RRD foil setup as in this video, but the wind didn't fill in as much as forecast so couldn't get flying (though felt close a few times)😞. What kind of board speed do you need to pop up onto the foil? My garmin showed a max of only 4.3knots boardspeed today 😂 and even the seasoned wingfoilers were struggling on 6 and 7m2 wings...
You need enough board speed to get planing. And as a learner more power and speed will be your friend. Until you really have the skill to control the foil and understand it’s balance it’s not a light wind alternative… go in decent wind to begin! 👍
Great video, I've noticed I'm running this video in my head when foiling, really helps a lot! Would love to get some tips on foiling upwind. From slalom I'm used to push on the starboard rail with my front leg while pushing windword with my back leg to keep the board straight. this is not working so well when foiling as I get the board tilted and from there I'm in the water in notime 😁 I see guys really taking crazy small angles to the wind, so I know it's possible just need to figure out how
Thank you for making this very helpful video. I tried practicing to get into front straps in light wind (around 6knots) but could not do it - as soon as I got my front foot in, the nose of the board turned up and into the wind. I wonder if it's because the wind was too light or something else was wrong (like not pressing front foot hard enough). Any advice? Thanks in advance.
Definitely not enough wind… I did this video released on the starboard channel last summer… might help you a bit 👍👍👍 th-cam.com/video/rAD-zFdbDAI/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for a really great lesson on foiling. I wish I had this the day I started. Please bring on the foil jibe video ASAP! Still can't crack the code. Also, I seem to sheet out more when foiling to be more stable. Is this normal?
Thanks for watching, and really glad you enjoyed it. Don’t worry, foiling gybes are on their way, keep an eye out for “foiling slowly” as a warm up/pre-exercise to the gybing one. Problem right now is it’s working 25+ knots every day and I’m having too much fun on my 80lt and 3.7! 🤣 (first world problems really! ) Sheeting our is normal on the foil, when you sheet in you pull on more power and will generate more lift. If, like me, you’re on a low aspect foil they don’t like being super powered up so much so de-power with you back foot out the strap and inboard, and try playing with some one-handed foiling- front hand by the lines- back hand off! Really good fun and not as hard as you might think once you have vaccinated foil control.
Super video, simple and perfect perspectives! Thanks a lot 👍 I haven’t got your comment regarding harness / hip position though. I have the challenge to get too much lift once I’m hooked in. And my lift control agility seems really reduced in the harness. Not sure what to change in my stance. Any idea out there in the community? Thanks for any feedback 🤙
Hi Michael, Thanks for watching, glad you like it. Its defiantly much hard once you hook in, you're drive more power in the foil and produce more lift. Your aim is to get onto the front foot to push the noes back down....however...before you start drilling into techniques it's worth reviewing a couple of things first... Equipment... are you consistently getting too much lift? If so it sound like you're overpowered. Quick fixes are outhaul- pull more on (easy done on the water). The UJ position makes a HUGE difference too- head back the the shallows and move it forward a bit, this will really pull the noes down. Another option of course is down-she the sail. When you fist begun you likely too too big sail and made up for lacking skill with extra power! Now you can enjoy the smaller, lighter sails as you have the skill to get the lift without tons of power! Let me know if this helps... and also worth checking out a follow up video I've done to this one... th-cam.com/video/WFKFxgJBWmI/w-d-xo.html
@@Cookiesports Thanks a lot for your prompt and very detailed feedback! I’m on a red Pocket Rocket, also Universal Foil which’s creating a lot of lift. I had the impression during the last sessions that in high speed, with a lot of pressure in the sail I could almost stand fully on my front foot, still getting lift and then unfortunately air time... Therefore I moved the base already from middle position a bit fwd but will simply continue and try another few centimetres. And I realised how close the harness lines are on your boom; I had a hand of space between the lines -> in consequence my front hand is a bit closer to the mast which creates power and lift. This I will also adjust. Looking forward to try it, right now at 2 degrees air temp the fun is limited 😜 Thanks again for your remote coaching tips Coockie 🤙
@@mmh-1975 Keep on cranking that UJ forward. I often get people on their first flights with the UJ as far forward as it'll go, then slowly creep in back until they are happy with the amount of lift...sounds like you've gone the opposite?! Lines and hand position... not sure I'm quite with you on this bit... a hand space between the lines is normal, and what we generally recommend. Closer together can help for quick power on/off- but will feel twitchy. If you're happy with that go for it, it's how a lot of freestyles ride... but be aware you'll need to have them set very accurately or you'll massively over/underpower yourself. Finally on the same point... front hand closer to the mast will DE-power you, not power you up. It's a common fault at intermediate level- front hands too far forward to no power... bring the from hand back, towards the harness lines to power up.
Is this the RRD Y25 Flight board? How does it perform on a scale of 1-10 for regular windsurfing and foiling? Which technology is better, LTE or E-Tech? It seems quite versatile, but I'm not sure if it's worth investing in. If it's worth purchasing, what sail would be best for wind speeds of 8-12 knots, with a weight of 80kg? I've been considering Severne NCX, Gator, and Convert.
It ok…but it’s designed to be a hybrid- which basically means it’s a compromise of both fin and foil set ups…. Ok at both- but not great at either! 2boards is the way to go!
Really interested to know what board spec and sail spec you need to Wind Foil in 9 to 11 knots of wind. I am a old big wave windsurfer that kites now. I want to try this is I think I can still windsurf even after 22 years of not finding enough wind or wave conditions to turn me on. I live now in Thailand. many 10 kt. days here. When it picks up I would kite. So how light can you get planing in. Incidentally I have watched dozens of videos and this info on wind speed and sail and board size is always omitted
With light wind of 9-11 knots you'll need some skill to begin with! It's not easy to learn to foil in marginal conditions. for that light wind you'll need a foil specific board of 120min, better would be 140-150, and a large sail, 7m +. It'll cost a pretty penny to get you going- kit, plus lessons to begin with! TBH if you can kite maybe look into foil kiting, it's pretty easy to make the switch from kiting to foiling, and it can be done in the same or possibly even lighter wind than windsurf foiling!
Hi, I noticed you use (like most foilers) the outboard footstrap positions. Could you say why and comment how different footstrap positions change the trim of foiling gear?
HI! Hope you've enjoyed the videos I've made so far. I'll go into more detail about kit set up in the future, but as a quick answer- you need the foot straps wide to keep the board trimmed flat- put them inboard and the power in the sail will cause the board to tilt to leeward and you won't be able to hold it. Watch this space for more details int he future!
Hi Cookie Liking the lesson a lot! I had my first ever time on a foil a couple of weeks ago and in retrospect I was on too big a sail - I was using a 5.7m and could have planed a FSW 95 with that sail in same wind! Also was hooked in which made balance harder. I'm on a Naish Hover 120 Crossover. Do you have any tips for learning to wind foil on one of these? They have a ton of rocker throughout (so they work as a traditional surf SUP) and the straps and foil are pretty far forwards (foil set right to the back per the Naish advice)) compared to a dedicated windfoil board. TIA =)
Sounds like you were very over powered if you can lane normally! Great board you’ve got there! Nothings specific to change, just follow tip in the video and you’ll be away and flying! 🤙🤙
@@Cookiesports Thanks for the tips. Does bearing away help when trying to get up on the foil at all? I don't think you mention point of sail for getting going in your video, except when you mention that 'I'm starting upwind' at 2:43, then 'I start to head back upwind once again' once you're up and flying at 3:20...?
Bearing away is needed yes…. But the term “bearing away”‘doesn’t necessarily mean to go down wind. You start close to the wind, bear away gently to find where you have enough power; this could well be still up-wind before you’re on a reach… or in lighter winds you might have to bear off further below the reach. Because it Varys so much it’s impossible to give a specific point of sail that you begin to fly at!
My common mistakes (I am 94 kg) went out on 14 kn with a 6.0 and a Starboard 145 lt foil board. 1) I do not get planning in 14 kn. 2) Not able to pump to raise the board out of the water. 3) under gust I arrive to lift the board out but it is not stable and has the tendenci to capsize downwind. Question: What I do wrong. it doesn't seem so easy to go up and fly like you show in your video. THANKS
Hi! Thanks for the message. You say it flew in the gusts but not the consistent wind speed..I think the simplest answer is you need more power. Two easy ways to do this... - Move the mast foot (UJ) further back in the mast track on the board. It makes a huge difference just a few cm's back or forward to how much lift you get! - Take a bigger sail, or same sail in stronger wind! With power and some simple set-up changes the board will fly... the biggest issue will then be keeping it down! Let me know how you progress!
Like all your videos, this is really good stuff. I'm wondering if you have any thoughts on a situation I'm currently faced with - I live in Florida and this time of year the windsurfing is not so great with the equipment I have (not enough wind). I've been thinking about buying a larger sail (right now I only have a 5.7 and a 7.0) so that I can get out more often. However, I'm going to need to buy a longer mast as well to accommodate the larger sail (I'm thinking about going with a 9.0 or 9.5). Given that new masts and sails are not cheap, I'm wondering if I could spend more and get a dedicated foil board/foil and just use it with my 7.0 in the lighter winds...? There aren't many windsurfers/foilers in the area but everyone in the online forums says that foiling is the way to go in lighter-wind areas. I'm sure it's a blast but I do love windsurfing and I'm not sure why a really large sail wouldn't allow me to have a good time in the lighter winds. Godspeed and I wish you loads of happiness and success wherever you are in the world right now!
Good question, and quite the predicament! To be honest the largest sail in my current quiver is 6.5m. If it’s not enough for a fin on that sail I’ll swap to a foil board and have a lovely time! Still expensive as you need a foil, but saves you on the new sail and mast! 🙌🙌🙌
Thanks Paul! The aim when foiling is to be standing vertically on top of the foil. Generally this will mean fairly large and daily inboard straps. This is because these style of boards are usually rounded so if you get outboard you'll be pushing the board sideways (like when driving your back foot into the fin)- not vertically down into the foil. Hope that makes sense!
Hi, Thanks for watching. It’s actually a RRD firemove foil ETech Y25, it was nice- however I’ll be getting a Starboard Foil-X soon as the replacement- super excited for it! Tried it a number of times and highly recommend! 👍
FUSELAGE length. Your video is great!!! I am an advanced windsurfer and have been foiling with kite and wing for a couple years. Last Summer I tried windfoiling, but with the style (upwind edging and speeding), wrong board and front wing. I have a North Sonar foil system with a 70 cm fuselage. If I want to sail with an upright stance style and do relax cruising and downwinders (AND NOT BE locked in upwind and racing position), can I WINDfoil with my 70cm fuselage that I also use for WINGing ??? Since it is not a long fuselage, and the mast is close to the front wing, I will have to move the whole foil forward in the US Box track so that when WINDfoiling I have the FRONT wing more forward aprox between my front and rear legs. Am I correct ? My US Box is very long (RRD Pocket 120lts Y26) so I have lots of room to adjust the foil mast forward to get balanced with your footstraps. What is your advice?
Thanks for watching! It’s great having the super adjustable slider positions for the foil set up… means you can really play with the positions to get it right. And “the right position” is very variable… the power you have, the stance you’re in, the skill you are developing. I suggest doing a few runs then adjusting a bit to feel the difference. Play with the kit and learn how it reacts to different positions- won’t take you long to find what really doesn’t work- and then start to tweak it to the “right” place! I had a session the other day where I took the key adjuster tool with me-tied and tucked into my harness- to pay with the settings in the shallows! Really helped me learn more about my kit! 👍
I wondered has anyone ever STARTED their windsurfing career on a foil, as opposed to progressing to foil later on? An interesting, if not a fundamentally masochistic proposition!!
Great content Bro! Just want to ask how come other wind foilers are hanging over the water just like a windsurfer and still be able to foil? Does it have something to do with their equipment set-up?
Equipment plays a big part in technique for foiling. Watching the PWA slalom racers (as great as they are) do not demonstrate a nice technique to copy when you are getting your first controlled flights!
Thanks Cookie, another great video. I've just started foiling (Starboard FoilX 145 & Supercruiser) and have been using the inboard front straps. I found the board quite twitchy laterally and parted company more than once! For first flights is the outboard front position better, and do you use tighter straps than if free riding?
Hi Rob. Firstly thanks for watching, glad you’re enjoying the series! 100% get the strap outboard, sound like you’ve already discovered what happens if they’re not! 😳 scary feeling as the bird starts to tilt uncontrollably to leeward! Size I feel is less important than placement- stick with what feels right- if you like the tighter/looser from your “normal” riding (with a fin) go with it! 👍
@@ninjaturtledude999 it wasn't me, although I've a fair idea who it was. I've only had mine out 3 times and not for a couple of months with the weather.
It’s not too windy- but definitely enough to get going on “normal” kit. Usually if I’m on a 5.7m sail and a foil, it’s be ok on a fin with a 7.5/8.0m, so around 15knots. Hope you’ve managed to see the follow up to this one- there’s a few videos in this series! 👍
Hi! Thanks for watching, hope you enjoyed this and some of the other videos I've uploaded. This was filmed on a 5.7 RRD Move sail, 202 edition. Heres a link to their new ones.... equipment.robertoriccidesigns.com/products/move-y26/
Thanks for these teachings! I am foiling with manta high aspect foil, isonic 117 wide and v8 7.8 sail. As i am a learner it is not the optimal setting and i am tired already after a few streches as i struggle to get into the harnesslines. I will be looking for a smaller, non cambered sail to make sailhandling a lot lighter, but any other tips?
Thanks for watching Leon! If you’re on a 7.8 sail there clearly can’t be much wind, and with the kit you’re on you have definitely given yourself a challenge here! Can you wait for some strong wind so you can be on a size or two smaller sail? It’ll make things o much easier doing it in wind! Harness tip- head up wind before hooking in- same as in a fin. Once you’re upwind (and vertical stance in the foil) the sail will likely be very close to you and easy to reach the lines. Still struggling- lower boom or longer lines!
Thanks cookie, i will wait forsome more wind to downsize the sail tohopefully a 5.7 (i guess i wouldneed 4-5bfr for this size) and have a try again in these conditions. I have to admit when wind is a bit stronger i prefer to ride with a fin, guess by my lacking foil skills. Due to the upright stance my harnass lines drop out of the hook, so i found myself making them shorter and shorter instead. I guess i neef to be upright but also outside of the board?
When it’s ok wind for me to be on a 7m or 8m I’m now tending to prefers a foil and a 5(ish)m, around bft 3-4. Foil stance thoughts... think of you and the sail creating a “V”. When powered up windsurfing the “V” goes sideways (ish) as you rake the stance back towards the water... “>” (just to as far as this sideways character! On a foil you still have to have a “V” with you and the sail, but more traditional like the letter- so you are more vertical and the sail is actually slights away from you. You will likely have softer lines like you said, but allow the rig to pull against the lines, not close the gap and turn the “V” into an “I” !!
It’s more dangerous not to be in the strap… the straps secure you to the board and really allow you to control it… without the strap you’ll be all over the place- don’t try it!
Took my first flight today! Friend let me stick a winger foil on board. Shorter fuselage so very twitchy. But managed to get up for 50m flights. Such a weird feeling.
You make by far the best windsurf instruction videos. Keep doing this. Thanks 🤙
Thank you! 🙌🙌🙌
I am Using 142 litters windsurf slalom foilready Partick(top class) windsurf board, with most simple and cheap Gong foil that bought 400 euros ,but now it is full with 200EURO such foils second hand(pretty cheap) front wing is 2200 square santimeters ( I weight 110 kilogram). Just Plug in foil and move from 9 square meters sail(my homespun is not very windy) to 7 square meters with foil. Nice and light and small sail for big and high guy like me. Already have 10 foiling sessions. 2 hours Pure fun per session. Always wear Long neoprene pants and boots. At beginning foil cuts legs like crazy!!!
Glad you’re enjoying it! 🤩🤩
Interesting to watch back the episode after about one year of foiling. This helped me a great deal.
Great to hear! Thanks!
Played this yesterday (podcast style) while driving up to my first try on the foil and everything went great on the water and was up almost right away. Absolutely great tips on this one.
Hahahahah! That’s awesome! Never thought of people playing my videos “podcast-style!”! 🤩🤩🤩
Concentrating on learning how to foil this year, and I find your videos well done and informative. Thanks for all the effort that you put into them. I really like your sailboard videos also, as so much of the foiling game is based on having a solid windsurfing background.
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Thanks for watching and really happy I could help! 👍👍👍
Excellent video 👍 really inspired me to start foiling, thanks.
Go give it a go, great fun!
Thanks for watching!!
A nice simple little video, I'm running a jp 135 foil board, with a pryde glide foil with a large front wing, more little simple tips, it's taken me a while, as was using small front wing, which wasn't enough lift.
Thanks Jeremy. I really like the glide, very similar sort of foil to the rrd version I’m on in these clips.
Brilliant, I’ve been trying to stay away from this new toy as I don’t get enough time on the water but this very clear and straightforward demo has woken up some needs. I will now have to give this a try. Thanks. Very well explained.
Get on it!
I’ve got a full series on foiling coming this summer! 👍👍👍
@@Cookiesports Oooo man, cant wait for it
This is the best video tutorial ever. Thank a lot!
Thank you!
That place is pretty. Reminds me of home, where I'm not.
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Awesome instructions .. making a difficult lesson easy to understand with great visuals
Thanks for watching! 👍
Excellent. I am using the same RRD foil on the pocket rocket without strap. After 3 sessions I begin to fly over 500 m. By seing your video I think I have to put my hands more in backward.
Glad you’re enjoying the videos! Good tip on the front hand coming back, I’ve actually just been filming on the foil today and a lot of the demos & chat was about front hand going back for easy power-on and controlling consistency in flights. Good spot! 👍
Many more foiling videos coming soon- will mix up foils/fin, beginner to advanced!
Brilliant. Thank you
You’re welcome! 🙌👍👍👍
Thanks for the video on flying the foil, moving body Cg by foot position helps to see the multiple views
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Thank you so much for your useful videos. I've seen your front wing is very far back, almost below your back foot. My front wing is in the middle of boot feet. Could you make a video of setting up the equipment and another one for getting upwind on windfoiling?
I'll get on that for sure!
Good tips. Look forward to the rest of the foil series. Thanks
Thanks Woody! Keep watching for more coming soon, I’ll be mixing between foiling and fin’ed sessions over the next month or two!
Great video. I wish I had this when I started foiling a year ago. Just shared it on Seabreeze foiling forum!
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Thanks for the positivity and really thank you for sharing about! Few more foiling videos on the way, improved stance, upwind/downwind positioning, and of course the foiling gybe!
@@Cookiesports Super! Am already subscribed! :D
Great video, thanks so much!!
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Thanks so much for this super clear and helpful explanation!!
I've just started windsurfing - much windsurfing will I have to do before I can learn to foil? Looks fucking awesome! Thanks :))
Once you’re doing ok in the straps you’re ready for foiling! 👍👍👍
Very Good 👍
Thank you 👍
Cookie, hands down you are the best out there for instructional videos. Question please, ive been sailing 33 years...im recovering from a partial high grade tear in my elbow tendon..ive been thinking of having a go at foiling but, im wondering how much pressure i will feel in the rig with a foil on board versus rig pressure with using a fin...its important that i not overdo it. My husband starting foiling last season and he said he doesn't feel much pressure in the sail/rig...its less than he normally feels. Hard to know really as he's just learning too...what are your thoughts? Much appreciated 👏
Thank you thank you!
Learning a new sport will always put more force and strain on your boast than doing something you can already do… if you are competent and both fin and foil then yes, a nice meagre free-ride foil set up will is not much effort or strain… but learning… not the same story!
Thank you so much! With this tutorial I instantly started to foil on my AV Chubby 127 l combined with the Severne Red Wing. Also a great combination. Looking forward to more foiling videos, e.g. "how to foil upwind in very light wind"
I’m filming more… releases every Sunday evening….👍👍👍
Thanks Cookie, perfect timing for me. What size of front wing and size of mast would you think would be good to start with?
Thanks Bob! The one used in this video is the RRD universal WH AL set, 85cm mast and 1582cm front wind. Very goo all round low aspect foil for lighter winds and learning. As the wind gets stronger (and too strong for the foil and sail I'm on) it's quite an easy swap to keep the same sail and change to a fin board!
I got the slingshot hoverglide fsup v3 foil, I wonder if I can put that on a wind surf board too? Whats a good board and sail setup going right now for beginners?
To be honest the windsurf hybrids aren’t great for foiling on… I struggled to make this look easy! 😜
Have a look at my newer videos and you’ll see….
th-cam.com/video/rAD-zFdbDAI/w-d-xo.html
Excellent Video Cookie simple and straightforward. I would also suggest a Strapless option for learners as it is just one less thing to deal with; especially with a board that has an outbound strap placement. It allowed me, and folks I taught, to move around just a bit to find the balance point quicker.
Strapless also allowed me and others to fly our first jibes quickly and safely. Once the learner gets the basics I think footstraps allow for more advanced foiling.
What do you think?
Thanks for watching Adrain. Strapless back foot, 100% with you- I often remove the back strap for teaching first time foilers for reasons mentioned in this video and you agree with here.
@@Cookiesports In case I was not clear, I also found removing the front straps, on big (>140L) learning boards that have an outboard strap placement, helped beginners stay balanced through their first flights and even when learning to jibe. Some beginners, that had tried foiling with straps advanced quicker once they tried foiling without straps. Later they advanced to straps or preferred to stay strapless. Just my 2% worth hope it helps..
Also your advise on learning with a bigger wing is right on, >1500 seems best.
Interesting idea, but I won’t be taking front straps off any of my students (or my own) boards in the near future I’m afraid.
Put the front straps a little larger than usual and as inboard as possible and it’ll work fine on 99% of boards. If something goes wrong and they’re not connect to the foot straps the likelihood of falling on the foil is greatly increased- even if we’ve made it very clear to them to not ever let go of the boom.
Also the riders need to be connected/locked to the board with something- the front strap- but the back foot can move a bit. No locked in front foot makes the board super hard to control- it’s like full speed planing without straps- possible but not nice!
I tried it without the front straps as a little experiment and really don’t recommend it to anyone- especially not students!
Sorry to disagree, but glad you like the video! 👍👍👍👍
@@Cookiesports don't be sorry and thanks for your perspective, as I explained my experience as been excellent teaching foiling without straps beginners just find in easier to learn. I think it's because beginners should be doing what you explain so well in the video, finding a balance point to put pressure forward or aft of the foil, beginners are not pulling up on the straps. I have foiled with straps and I agree there are some advantages but only for advanced manoeuvres.
On the safety side I have seen friends and students twist their ankles falling in one or both straps. Also saw the cut a foiler got falling back on the foil when stuck in the straps. While I have never seen or heard of anyone getting hurt while foiling strapless, but that's just my experience .
Thanks again for the feedback, have fun foiling!
I started foiling 6 months ago on slingshot 125 with infinity 76 foil and after doing first sessions with both straps found it easier to get balance point going strapless. Then in May I had to suddenly avoid a rope under the water and tried to bear away under it and stop quickly. Windsurf instincts took over and whilst banking and releasing sheet pressure the foil kicked the board up and the board broke my ankle. Now 6 months on I would like to restart but want to avoid further incident. I think I bent my knees to sit on the board as the board kicked up. Anyway it is possible to break an ankle even without straps!!
Hi! I know this video came out a long time ago so I don't know if I'll get an answer. I learned a lot from watching your videos and spending hours in the water harping on and on until it worked. I have an intermediate level in fin windsurfing but I dream of one day going foiling. How can I find out when I'll be good enough to switch to foiling ? Thanks in advance !
Hiya!
I’m always going to reply for as long as I’m active on this channel! 🤙🤙
To start fouling to need to be pretty confident in both footstraps.
Come to Vass next summer and I’d be happy to coach you… we can start on a fin and build up! 🤩
Enjoying all of your windsurf, and these windfoil videos - keep them coming please! I went out for my first windfoil session today on a 5.3m2 sail on an RRD Pocket Rocket 180, and I think the same RRD foil setup as in this video, but the wind didn't fill in as much as forecast so couldn't get flying (though felt close a few times)😞. What kind of board speed do you need to pop up onto the foil? My garmin showed a max of only 4.3knots boardspeed today 😂 and even the seasoned wingfoilers were struggling on 6 and 7m2 wings...
You need enough board speed to get planing. And as a learner more power and speed will be your friend.
Until you really have the skill to control the foil and understand it’s balance it’s not a light wind alternative… go in decent wind to begin! 👍
@@Cookiesports Such a quick response, thank you!
Great video, I've noticed I'm running this video in my head when foiling, really helps a lot!
Would love to get some tips on foiling upwind. From slalom I'm used to push on the starboard rail with my front leg while pushing windword with my back leg to keep the board straight. this is not working so well when foiling as I get the board tilted and from there I'm in the water in notime 😁
I see guys really taking crazy small angles to the wind, so I know it's possible just need to figure out how
Hi!
Thanks for watching and showing support, really appreciate it! 👍
Foiling upwind is a
@@Cookiesports We can cut the tension with a knife here😀
Thank you for making this very helpful video. I tried practicing to get into front straps in light wind (around 6knots) but could not do it - as soon as I got my front foot in, the nose of the board turned up and into the wind. I wonder if it's because the wind was too light or something else was wrong (like not pressing front foot hard enough). Any advice? Thanks in advance.
Definitely not enough wind… I did this video released on the starboard channel last summer… might help you a bit 👍👍👍
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@@Cookiesports Thank you so much!
wicked video
Thanks!
Great !! When you will do foil jibe video ?
Thanks!
Don’t worry, foil gybing videos on its way!
@@Cookiesports Can't wait !!!!
Thanks for a really great lesson on foiling. I wish I had this the day I started. Please bring on the foil jibe video ASAP! Still can't crack the code. Also, I seem to sheet out more when foiling to be more stable. Is this normal?
Thanks for watching, and really glad you enjoyed it. Don’t worry, foiling gybes are on their way, keep an eye out for “foiling slowly” as a warm up/pre-exercise to the gybing one.
Problem right now is it’s working 25+ knots every day and I’m having too much fun on my 80lt and 3.7! 🤣 (first world problems really! )
Sheeting our is normal on the foil, when you sheet in you pull on more power and will generate more lift. If, like me, you’re on a low aspect foil they don’t like being super powered up so much so de-power with you back foot out the strap and inboard, and try playing with some one-handed foiling- front hand by the lines- back hand off! Really good fun and not as hard as you might think once you have vaccinated foil control.
Super video, simple and perfect perspectives! Thanks a lot 👍 I haven’t got your comment regarding harness / hip position though. I have the challenge to get too much lift once I’m hooked in. And my lift control agility seems really reduced in the harness. Not sure what to change in my stance. Any idea out there in the community? Thanks for any feedback 🤙
Hi Michael,
Thanks for watching, glad you like it. Its defiantly much hard once you hook in, you're drive more power in the foil and produce more lift. Your aim is to get onto the front foot to push the noes back down....however...before you start drilling into techniques it's worth reviewing a couple of things first...
Equipment... are you consistently getting too much lift? If so it sound like you're overpowered. Quick fixes are outhaul- pull more on (easy done on the water). The UJ position makes a HUGE difference too- head back the the shallows and move it forward a bit, this will really pull the noes down. Another option of course is down-she the sail. When you fist begun you likely too too big sail and made up for lacking skill with extra power! Now you can enjoy the smaller, lighter sails as you have the skill to get the lift without tons of power!
Let me know if this helps... and also worth checking out a follow up video I've done to this one... th-cam.com/video/WFKFxgJBWmI/w-d-xo.html
@@Cookiesports Thanks a lot for your prompt and very detailed feedback! I’m on a red Pocket Rocket, also Universal Foil which’s creating a lot of lift. I had the impression during the last sessions that in high speed, with a lot of pressure in the sail I could almost stand fully on my front foot, still getting lift and then unfortunately air time... Therefore I moved the base already from middle position a bit fwd but will simply continue and try another few centimetres. And I realised how close the harness lines are on your boom; I had a hand of space between the lines -> in consequence my front hand is a bit closer to the mast which creates power and lift. This I will also adjust. Looking forward to try it, right now at 2 degrees air temp the fun is limited 😜 Thanks again for your remote coaching tips Coockie 🤙
@@mmh-1975 Keep on cranking that UJ forward. I often get people on their first flights with the UJ as far forward as it'll go, then slowly creep in back until they are happy with the amount of lift...sounds like you've gone the opposite?!
Lines and hand position... not sure I'm quite with you on this bit... a hand space between the lines is normal, and what we generally recommend. Closer together can help for quick power on/off- but will feel twitchy. If you're happy with that go for it, it's how a lot of freestyles ride... but be aware you'll need to have them set very accurately or you'll massively over/underpower yourself.
Finally on the same point... front hand closer to the mast will DE-power you, not power you up. It's a common fault at intermediate level- front hands too far forward to no power... bring the from hand back, towards the harness lines to power up.
Is this the RRD Y25 Flight board? How does it perform on a scale of 1-10 for regular windsurfing and foiling? Which technology is better, LTE or E-Tech?
It seems quite versatile, but I'm not sure if it's worth investing in. If it's worth purchasing, what sail would be best for wind speeds of 8-12 knots, with a weight of 80kg? I've been considering Severne NCX, Gator, and Convert.
It ok…but it’s designed to be a hybrid- which basically means it’s a compromise of both fin and foil set ups…. Ok at both- but not great at either! 2boards is the way to go!
Really interested to know what board spec and sail spec you need to Wind Foil in 9 to 11 knots of wind. I am a old big wave windsurfer that kites now. I want to try this is I think I can still windsurf even after 22 years of not finding enough wind or wave conditions to turn me on. I live now in Thailand. many 10 kt. days here. When it picks up I would kite. So how light can you get planing in. Incidentally I have watched dozens of videos and this info on wind speed and sail and board size is always omitted
With light wind of 9-11 knots you'll need some skill to begin with! It's not easy to learn to foil in marginal conditions. for that light wind you'll need a foil specific board of 120min, better would be 140-150, and a large sail, 7m +. It'll cost a pretty penny to get you going- kit, plus lessons to begin with!
TBH if you can kite maybe look into foil kiting, it's pretty easy to make the switch from kiting to foiling, and it can be done in the same or possibly even lighter wind than windsurf foiling!
Hi, I noticed you use (like most foilers) the outboard footstrap positions. Could you say why and comment how different footstrap positions change the trim of foiling gear?
HI!
Hope you've enjoyed the videos I've made so far. I'll go into more detail about kit set up in the future, but as a quick answer- you need the foot straps wide to keep the board trimmed flat- put them inboard and the power in the sail will cause the board to tilt to leeward and you won't be able to hold it. Watch this space for more details int he future!
Hi Cookie Liking the lesson a lot! I had my first ever time on a foil a couple of weeks ago and in retrospect I was on too big a sail - I was using a 5.7m and could have planed a FSW 95 with that sail in same wind! Also was hooked in which made balance harder. I'm on a Naish Hover 120 Crossover. Do you have any tips for learning to wind foil on one of these? They have a ton of rocker throughout (so they work as a traditional surf SUP) and the straps and foil are pretty far forwards (foil set right to the back per the Naish advice)) compared to a dedicated windfoil board. TIA =)
Sounds like you were very over powered if you can lane normally!
Great board you’ve got there! Nothings specific to change, just follow tip in the video and you’ll be away and flying! 🤙🤙
@@Cookiesports Thanks for the tips. Does bearing away help when trying to get up on the foil at all? I don't think you mention point of sail for getting going in your video, except when you mention that 'I'm starting upwind' at 2:43, then 'I start to head back upwind once again' once you're up and flying at 3:20...?
Bearing away is needed yes…. But the term “bearing away”‘doesn’t necessarily mean to go down wind.
You start close to the wind, bear away gently to find where you have enough power; this could well be still up-wind before you’re on a reach… or in lighter winds you might have to bear off further below the reach. Because it Varys so much it’s impossible to give a specific point of sail that you begin to fly at!
My common mistakes (I am 94 kg) went out on 14 kn with a 6.0 and a Starboard 145 lt foil board.
1) I do not get planning in 14 kn.
2) Not able to pump to raise the board out of the water.
3) under gust I arrive to lift the board out but it is not stable and has the tendenci to capsize downwind.
Question: What I do wrong. it doesn't seem so easy to go up and fly like you show in your video.
THANKS
Hi!
Thanks for the message.
You say it flew in the gusts but not the consistent wind speed..I think the simplest answer is you need more power.
Two easy ways to do this...
- Move the mast foot (UJ) further back in the mast track on the board. It makes a huge difference just a few cm's back or forward to how much lift you get!
- Take a bigger sail, or same sail in stronger wind!
With power and some simple set-up changes the board will fly... the biggest issue will then be keeping it down!
Let me know how you progress!
so I have a heap of windsurfing gear, can I use my current sail setups with a new windfoil board?
Sails generally can cross over to foiling gear without issue… this was filmed on a hybrid board with classic sails- nothing foil specific here!
Like all your videos, this is really good stuff. I'm wondering if you have any thoughts on a situation I'm currently faced with - I live in Florida and this time of year the windsurfing is not so great with the equipment I have (not enough wind). I've been thinking about buying a larger sail (right now I only have a 5.7 and a 7.0) so that I can get out more often. However, I'm going to need to buy a longer mast as well to accommodate the larger sail (I'm thinking about going with a 9.0 or 9.5). Given that new masts and sails are not cheap, I'm wondering if I could spend more and get a dedicated foil board/foil and just use it with my 7.0 in the lighter winds...? There aren't many windsurfers/foilers in the area but everyone in the online forums says that foiling is the way to go in lighter-wind areas. I'm sure it's a blast but I do love windsurfing and I'm not sure why a really large sail wouldn't allow me to have a good time in the lighter winds.
Godspeed and I wish you loads of happiness and success wherever you are in the world right now!
Good question, and quite the predicament!
To be honest the largest sail in my current quiver is 6.5m. If it’s not enough for a fin on that sail I’ll swap to a foil board and have a lovely time!
Still expensive as you need a foil, but saves you on the new sail and mast!
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I love this series. Nice simple explanations. When filling with a FSW/Freeride board, would you recommend inboard or outboard straps?
Thanks Paul! The aim when foiling is to be standing vertically on top of the foil. Generally this will mean fairly large and daily inboard straps. This is because these style of boards are usually rounded so if you get outboard you'll be pushing the board sideways (like when driving your back foot into the fin)- not vertically down into the foil. Hope that makes sense!
@@Cookiesports Makes perfect sense. Thanks,
Where was this filmed? Looks like a nice spot!
Keros… good spot- but Vasilikí is better if you’re coming to Greece!
Do you have a vid about beach starting or water starting thanks.
Hi!
Thanks for watching this one. Beach/water start videos are on their way- subscribe to the channel so you don’t miss out!
Cookie, is that board a RRD Evo E-Tech Y25 ? Looking for an alternative of my Falcon Lightwind 159.
Hi,
Thanks for watching. It’s actually a RRD firemove foil ETech Y25, it was nice- however I’ll be getting a Starboard Foil-X soon as the replacement- super excited for it! Tried it a number of times and highly recommend! 👍
FUSELAGE length. Your video is great!!! I am an advanced windsurfer and have been foiling with kite and wing for a couple years. Last Summer I tried windfoiling, but with the style (upwind edging and speeding), wrong board and front wing.
I have a North Sonar foil system with a 70 cm fuselage. If I want to sail with an upright stance style and do relax cruising and downwinders (AND NOT BE locked in upwind and racing position), can I WINDfoil with my 70cm fuselage that I also use for WINGing ???
Since it is not a long fuselage, and the mast is close to the front wing, I will have to move the whole foil forward in the US Box track so that when WINDfoiling I have the FRONT wing more forward aprox between my front and rear legs. Am I correct ?
My US Box is very long (RRD Pocket 120lts Y26) so I have lots of room to adjust the foil mast forward to get balanced with your footstraps. What is your advice?
Thanks for watching! It’s great having the super adjustable slider positions for the foil set up… means you can really play with the positions to get it right.
And “the right position” is very variable… the power you have, the stance you’re in, the skill you are developing. I suggest doing a few runs then adjusting a bit to feel the difference.
Play with the kit and learn how it reacts to different positions- won’t take you long to find what really doesn’t work- and then start to tweak it to the “right” place!
I had a session the other day where I took the key adjuster tool with me-tied and tucked into my harness- to pay with the settings in the shallows!
Really helped me learn more about my kit! 👍
@@Cookiesports thanks. Your recommendations would solve my limitation of fuselage length ?
Bellissimooooooooo
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I wondered has anyone ever STARTED their windsurfing career on a foil, as opposed to progressing to foil later on? An interesting, if not a fundamentally masochistic proposition!!
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Great content Bro! Just want to ask how come other wind foilers are hanging over the water just like a windsurfer and still be able to foil? Does it have something to do with their equipment set-up?
Equipment plays a big part in technique for foiling. Watching the PWA slalom racers (as great as they are) do not demonstrate a nice technique to copy when you are getting your first controlled flights!
@@Cookiesports
Cool! thanks a lot bro.
Thanks Cookie, another great video. I've just started foiling (Starboard FoilX 145 & Supercruiser) and have been using the inboard front straps. I found the board quite twitchy laterally and parted company more than once! For first flights is the outboard front position better, and do you use tighter straps than if free riding?
Hi Rob.
Firstly thanks for watching, glad you’re enjoying the series!
100% get the strap outboard, sound like you’ve already discovered what happens if they’re not! 😳 scary feeling as the bird starts to tilt uncontrollably to leeward! Size I feel is less important than placement- stick with what feels right- if you like the tighter/looser from your “normal” riding (with a fin) go with it! 👍
Ride-Along Windsurf Coaching with Cookie! Great, many thanks. Screwdriver at the ready!
@@bobbinabout1317 good to see a north down sailor here, seen someone killing a foil at ballyholme last weekend
@@ninjaturtledude999 it wasn't me, although I've a fair idea who it was. I've only had mine out 3 times and not for a couple of months with the weather.
How mant knots of wind was this video filmed in
This was filmed in around 15knots of wind.
Nice hat 😂
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What was the wind speed here? (Amazing video!)
It’s not too windy- but definitely enough to get going on “normal” kit.
Usually if I’m on a 5.7m sail and a foil, it’s be ok on a fin with a 7.5/8.0m, so around 15knots.
Hope you’ve managed to see the follow up to this one- there’s a few videos in this series! 👍
Thanks!
What sail is this ? Thank you very much for the instuctions
Hi!
Thanks for watching, hope you enjoyed this and some of the other videos I've uploaded.
This was filmed on a 5.7 RRD Move sail, 202 edition.
Heres a link to their new ones.... equipment.robertoriccidesigns.com/products/move-y26/
Thanks for these teachings! I am foiling with manta high aspect foil, isonic 117 wide and v8 7.8 sail. As i am a learner it is not the optimal setting and i am tired already after a few streches as i struggle to get into the harnesslines. I will be looking for a smaller, non cambered sail to make sailhandling a lot lighter, but any other tips?
Thanks for watching Leon!
If you’re on a 7.8 sail there clearly can’t be much wind, and with the kit you’re on you have definitely given yourself a challenge here! Can you wait for some strong wind so you can be on a size or two smaller sail? It’ll make things o much easier doing it in wind!
Harness tip- head up wind before hooking in- same as in a fin. Once you’re upwind (and vertical stance in the foil) the sail will likely be very close to you and easy to reach the lines.
Still struggling- lower boom or longer lines!
Thanks cookie, i will wait forsome more wind to downsize the sail tohopefully a 5.7 (i guess i wouldneed 4-5bfr for this size) and have a try again in these conditions. I have to admit when wind is a bit stronger i prefer to ride with a fin, guess by my lacking foil skills. Due to the upright stance my harnass lines drop out of the hook, so i found myself making them shorter and shorter instead. I guess i neef to be upright but also outside of the board?
When it’s ok wind for me to be on a 7m or 8m I’m now tending to prefers a foil and a 5(ish)m, around bft 3-4.
Foil stance thoughts... think of you and the sail creating a “V”. When powered up windsurfing the “V” goes sideways (ish) as you rake the stance back towards the water... “>” (just to as far as this sideways character!
On a foil you still have to have a “V” with you and the sail, but more traditional like the letter- so you are more vertical and the sail is actually slights away from you. You will likely have softer lines like you said, but allow the rig to pull against the lines, not close the gap and turn the “V” into an “I” !!
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Thanks Karol!
Wind conditions an place of this video that may not have normal wave action with given wind.
I'm pretty lucky with the location I've got to film this summer. Closed off lagoon with loads of wind and warm water!
Hello: I wanted to know why when I rise above the water the surfboard rises to the wind and then I fall, (I learn to surf foil) Thank you
Back foot pressure gives you lift and turns you into the wind- sounds like you've got too much weight there!
I will check thanks anyway
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Wouldn't it be dangerous to be in the straps when your learning? Especially first tries..
It’s more dangerous not to be in the strap… the straps secure you to the board and really allow you to control it… without the strap you’ll be all over the place- don’t try it!
How many Turtles and snakes have fallen victim to the almighty foil?
Ahh! Terrible thought! I've seen a few turtles around the bay I've been filming in but definitely not heard of any being hit!
This board looks fantastic! Enjoy the flight🤙🏽 Enigmaticsurf.com
It was bit nice!
Took my first flight today! Friend let me stick a winger foil on board. Shorter fuselage so very twitchy. But managed to get up for 50m flights. Such a weird feeling.
That’s awesome! 🙌🙌🙌🙌