WiFi Networking on a Boat
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Builds entire boat, understands all systems, wishes washing machine had a start button. What a man, Mr.Seeker
I miss my old microwave too. I only had a knob you turned. : )
love my starlink, total game changer here in rural australia, cant wait for it to be mobile so i can use it when traveling
must be nice to have starlink they dont send any kits to us here in canada. pre ordered febuary 8th but i probably wont get it till 2023. you can order it in a city 30 miles from me but its not available in rural areas in canada.
Ubiquiti makes great stuff. I’d recommend eventually running ethernet through the boat and place multiple Unifi APs. Then you could get a wireless bridge device to connect back to your hotspot or there are also router type devices that take a SIM card and have ethernet. But long term you should be able to plug your wires system into something like starlink
Agreed. The only reason I use WiFi for ANYTHING is because you can't get damn ethernet ports in everything.
Last I checked starlink only works if you’re stationary
@@davidquang5295 I believe Space X is now using Starlink on its drone recovery ships.
@@davidquang5295 SpaceX have Starlink terminals on Starship for in-flight telemetry, They are working with Airlines to have Starlink terminals installed for in-flight internet service. The only reason it's "fixed" for consumer services right now is to manage satellite congestion while the constellation isn't fully deployed yet. Roaming terminals is coming soon.
KVH is what most vessels of that size use and it works like starlink. Any government survey/work will require it. We are required to have it for our federal observers for crab, cod and Pollock fishing in AK.
I would recommend hard wiring with Ethernet as much as possible and/or devices that run on frequencies other than 2.4GHz. Even though all devices on 2.4GHz are required to accept a certain level of interference (a lot if a microwave is running btw), the more you have on, the lower your bandwidth will be. Using PoE especially for cameras will make them more responsive and not use up wifi bandwidth. It might also be a good idea to do up to 3 separate wifi networks (maximum channels of 11 without overlap on 2.4GHz for devices that need it) and split off the the passive boat functions (cameras, solar/battery charging, etc.) onto its own network to give more bandwidth to the crew/researchers.
*data center engineer here*
I agree. Reserve wifi for devices that NEED the mobility around the craft and not for critical devices.
For redundancy, reliability and security, I'd do 2-3 networks on the IP space.
1. Boat Critical systems. Firewall from the other stuff.
2. Boat staff wired network with a Wifi channel with a network for staff stuff.
3. Guest wired network with it's own Wifi Channel including a small rack for them to drop their own hardware into if need be.
And a usefully sized POE system will allow you to power devices with PoE AND give them networking with one cable. There's also some nifty water proof RJ-45 connectors out there that might be useful for up on deck or on the hold for the sciencey types to be able to plug into.
Break out a small firewall to front the network access boat layer to the internet, with that as the router for the internal boat side network. That way you can point that to differnet devices to the internet as different methods come up and down on the boat. Be it a hardline at a dock, a satellite based internet service (Starlink) or other methods like cellular based systems as you are in range for a hotspot to work. That way if you turn up and turn down connection methods, you're not having to re-ip everything OR have 2-3 devices as your default gateway and fighting over it if 2 happen to be turned on at the same time.
For really in the middle of nowhere services there are a few satellite based systems that are spendy but you can really be in the middle of no-where and have ISDN, phone and IP based connectivity. INMARSAT is one such device (BGAN Broadband Global Area Network). These would NOT be a use all the time thing. More of a used for key updates once a day or if other stuff was not working. Starlink will likely make this far less expensive by way of competition.
The other issue is ITU frequency allocations might different for WIFI devices in other than US waters or over in ITU region 2 or 3 if Doug decides to take SV Seeker over the pond to Europe. Having critical camera systems and other network operable devices working on Wifi might present issues if having devies active on frequencies that are legally barred from civilian use. I haven't looked too closely at this but I've seen issues in the past where earlier
There's a list of WIFI Frequencies allowed by nation over on Wikipedia. You'll note that there are restrictions on indoor in some of those nations Brazil for example. That may present an issue with if they consider a boat indoor or not.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_WLAN_channels#5_GHz_(802.11a/h/j/n/ac/ax).
Last thing you want to do is float into a port and have a French Navy ship wander over and give you a citation via their coast guard for transmitting on a frequency that they reserve for military use.
5 GHz has worse penetration than 2.4, it's a steel boat. Also, 5 GHz turns off of it detects radar.
Also, Poe and wires are nice but the first lightning strike might take down the switch. I would go as simple as possible here and try to get mesh working. It reduces your throughput, but your bottleneck will be the internet connection anyway, there is no need to be faster than that. I wonder if every section of the boat acts as a Faraday cage, and how much the steel reduces the signal, especially 5ghz.
Lastly, i would put an outdoor Access Point on the mast, will probably give you wifi in the whole harbor.
@@ryanmgill @maddmaxx Random bit of information regarding Doug- His career was in IT. for longer then most have been alive. lol. He knows these things.
@@xtremeownagedotcom Database engineer != network engineer || wifi specialist
there is a problem with that in this case, the internet on the boat isnt using a hard wired modem it is wireless and doesnt have a ethernet port on it. maybe when he upgrades in about a year he will be able to do that. far as running ethernet cables everywhere he would be able to do that fairly easily but if youre in a position where you would have to open walls and such thats not always something you can do. like in my case im in a rental and have security cameras set up outside due to people breaking into cars and also stealing cars in the area. im using poe cameras with built in audio to my dvr in one room. have a router in the kitchen tucked into a corner with a power inserter for the cameras and 1 ethernet cable running across the place to the bedroom. not so nice but it does the job. could have gone completely wireless but then you have to charge the cameras and stuff happens here at random times. the cameras i use are 5mp but when i move into my own custom built hose im making provisions to go over to 4k ultra hd poe cameras with the built in microphones. setting up a electrical room that will be conditioned as well for that. will have generator backup that runs on propane. cameras will be on the backup system. spending a lot of money for this.
Wifi extenders usually half your wifi speed. Faster and more reliable solution is to put a 4G mobile router with ethernet socket in the cabin, and run ethernet cable to the main living areas of the ship, and place a wifi access point there, connected to the cable.
I'd replace the Franklin hotspot with a Netgear MR1100 Nighthawk or something similar. The MR1100 has an ethernet port and 2 external antenna ports and works quite reliably. T-Mobile generally doesn't care if you swap your SIM card into another device. Just move your SIM card into the Nighthawk and set the APN. Then you can easily connect to whatever network equipment that you deem necessary.
This was going to be my suggestion as well. Frankly (no pun intended) that Franklin isn't great. With a Netgear you get a lot more options for installing the infrastructure, such as the external antenna(s) .. REALLY need these by the way ... and the ethernet port to get you out of the Netgear box and into some more devices like hard-wired routers, better WiFi routers, etc. Basically, using something like a Netgear Nighthawk will allow you to create the typical wired/wireless infrastructure you'd use (such as a decent rounter / wi-fi hub, etc) that you'd use at home, AND you'll be ready for a "plug and play" event when eventually Starlink drops their mobile systems for ships, planes, etc.
Top quality comment, external antennas are also important given the amount of metal in that boat and sticking up antennas on the mast will mean they'll still be able to get internet when they're just off the coast
I have the same Netgear Blackhawk, it works flawlessly as a Wi-Fi device and a router for connected devices, iPad, laptop, printer etc.
I have had a MR1100 as my home internet for over 2 years running 24/7 with otr mobile. Works great, especially with the external antennas.
Just do it. The haters have boring lives. Life is a risk. Your ship is a masterpiece. I think it will float and sail and drive just fine. It's been fun watching the build and I've learned lots of tricks from you fellas. I build stuff because its fun and you can turn trash into treasure. Can't wait till she sails!
Hi Doug, Watched every episode and wish you the best, seriously.
Thanks Doug! Always learning so much from your show and its way better than how its made or any other stuff on tell a vision!
cant wait to see you out on the waters .. long time following you on your build, now its so close. wish you all the best
Thanks Doug for featuring my inflatable project in the WDYMT portion of your video. Much respect!
I appreciate you Doug!!! I’m glad you’ve making the best of a lame situation with the insurance
Still amazing work as SV-SEEKER comes together more. Totally agree only way to help yourself is to do it yourself! Hoping for the best Doug soon you'll have your first contact with the water!
I love how well thought out everything is on this boat. The attention to detail from electronics, plumbing, and mechanical is spectacular. It's good to see you going over the finishing touches before the boat gets put in the water. By the way, speaking of electronics, it's funny to see you make references to millennials about the tech stuff when it seems as though you are pretty tech savvy yourself. I love the gadgets you are hooking up though. The wifi, smoke detectors, and the cameras are definitely much needed.
what happens if you drop your phone over the side you no shit happens
I won't have to read "What if ..." comments.
All amazing stuff, Master Doug! Glad you are having some success with getting in the water. Love the videos and the common sense self reliance.
SpaceCowboy...emphesis on SPACE. 😅😂🤣🤣🤣
The rabbit hole goes deep on those cellular booster antennas. Not sure if it is still the case, but some of the more powerful ones I recall needed registration with the FCC as a communication device.
I work in the Gulf of Mexico in the oil field and I have t-mobile and it work better 180 miles offshore then it does on land. They have t-mobile towers on a lot of the platforms out here.
At 14:51 looks as though you are on the water....Good things to come.
Doug, I'm always impressed by your positive attitude, keep up the good work.
Attitude is most important choice we make. I just wish I was better at it more of the time. : )
Well how do you get to carnage’s hall
For the blink cameras, with only having them on for 12 hours (8p-8a), most of our batteries have been going strong for over 3 years. The first 2 (highest traffic) ones finally needed replaced just short of the 3 years.
The boat Amazon built
I'm sure as hell going to miss Prime, but that Alexa bitch is coming with me. : )
Dammit, stop messing with MY Alexa 🤣
you have an air of success about you now sir. You ran off that electronic stuff very well thanks.
Doug, great to see progress being made. I'd recommend Carbon Monoxide detectors for both cabins and the engine room.
When he tests the smoke detectors it seems they detect carbon monoxide too...
I tried that wifi hotspot thing and found that if you don't have unlimited data, you won't have enough, your provider uses a LOT of it to keep you online and apps on your phone use it whenever it finds it. you will be over your limit in a couple of days and T Mobile will bill you hard for that.
I've been using it daily. Just don't watch movies or videos and it seems to be more than enough. : )
Perfectly timed video!! I just bought a house and am setting all this stuff up also😁👍🏻
another option would be DD-WRT flashed routers set up in each room and linked via lan rj45 cables
We had the WEBoost 65 decibel with marine antenna and loved it while traveling aboard. Best thing we owned!
"For use only when RV is parked" ....dam
@@SVSeeker It requires 40' of vertical separation between indoor and outdoor antennas. Therefore on a RV, it requires a telescoping mast to extend vertical, therefore, ONLY WHEN RV is PARKED. We had ours on the main mast, permanently making the vertical separation and used it while in motion regularly. Worked great. People came to our cockpit to use phones because of increased signal. It would routinely increase 2 bars of signal. And 3G became 1bar LTE. Awesome! Our friends had a 30k sat system and used our booster because of lower latency for video chats.
For those who already have a old router hanging around you can in most cases configure the old one as a repeater.
On your amazon devices you need to go to the sneaky option of amazon sidewalk under settings and disable it. It allows any amazon device including someone walking by to have free access to your internet.
When did sharing a little bandwidth become a bad thing? I grew up when it was bad to be stingy.
You can build a passive booster by building a directional yagi (or dish) that you can turn and face the tower - feeding to a conventional vertical antenna inside the cabin. No electricity required.
If you need to change your WiFi hardware you might want to look into mesh systems. They eliminate most of the overhead from simple WiFi extenders by providing a high speed dedicated channel for extending the signal.
Yes! IT work and SV Seeker! lol
Yeah, networking. Not my area. :)
Hey Doug,
I had the Blink cameras set up but had to send them back.
The trick is that the cameras record to the internet first and foremost and then the videos are brought back to the secondary storage on the hub later. So you are basically out of luck if you do not have internet.
If you have the space, I would totally recommend the Ubiquity products. It's a bit expensive but rock solid and so easy to set up.
I don't think that's the way these work, but I'll test that. Thanks for the heads up.
I thought your name was Pirate Captain Doug? Much good information on internal communications.
Looks like the nest smoke detectors are ionising detectors, so they shouldn't trigger with fog, unlike a plant room where i worked that set off the alarms when thick mist rolled in through the vents, they were oprical sensors that got quickly changed for ionising
Only problem would be in the galley when cooking, the better type would be 'rate of rise of heat'
Unifi has reallly good products for wifi. You could get a Unifi Router and set it up with few Unifi AC Lites, use as much ethernet cable as possible. Im not sure if Unifi LTE can switch towers, but it would be a really good solution, because you can put the sim card in it and run few antennas outside and have excellent signal.
You must have not been the military because I stood watch. I have done it many times and you better not fall a sleep. And you have to trust the other that are on watch or you will have a very bad day with little to no sleep.
Nope. Not me, I have a heart problem and they tossed me out at entry battalion. Fire watch taught me I could sleep leaning against a wall. : )
It’s truly amazing that you built this from sheet steel .
Two words. Respect and envy
Some help maybe. A "mobile" hotspot just means it has a built-in battery. Any cellular router will be fine. You'll likely soon want to add some Ethernet cables to get better connectivity around the boat. Repeaters and mesh, sure, its okay, but Ethernet doesn't cost much besides time to install and it helps a lot with reliability, latency and speed. It also gives you the possibility to power things with PoE so you don't need batteries to replace. I live on a steel boat and we have a few access points on Ethernet around the boat. Nothing fancy, just some old routers running dd-wrt, but any wifi device which can act access point is fine.
For the antenna question. Very important is the cable length. You want to have a short antenna cable. With a long cable you'll soon lose the added signal strength in cable loss. What you'll end up with is having the cellular router as high up in the boat as you can, but still indoors. Then a 2-5 meter antenna cable to get the antenna as high up in the air as possible.
Good luck in getting the boat on water!
Not if believe your T-Mobile folks. And we make add some hard wire but only after we know what we and where.
@@SVSeeker I have heard that weird stuff going on in the US when it comes to mobile subscription. So why not. I'll correct; In the rest of the world a mobile router is just a cellular router with built in battery. If I may guess, it could be that the subscription may be locked. Operators may lock a subscription to an area of cell towers, that happens also in Europe, and perhaps you need to buy a mobile router to not get a locked subscription with it. I have heard that subscriptions are much more locked to devices in the US. That is fortunately not allowed in the EU.
yeah definitely hardwire as much ans possible with ethernet and use a LTE router that is or has the antenna on top of the mast and then access points inside the boat
3:07 Actually, there should be an option to "join" 2,4 ghz and 5ghz on the same ssid (network name) then your device will just pick the strongest.
I'm a network and IT tech (and mechanic, welder, carpenter, mason, elechicken) and only about 4 hours away from you (I'm down in dallass) - If you'd like me to come set your stuff up, run cat5e/6 and hardwire your hotspot into the router, I'd be happy to do so
Long as ya put me up for a night or two and feed me that is lol
I appreciate the offer. We'll likely run some hard wire but only after we have time to figure out what we want and where we want it. I'm afraid you'll have to travel much further. : )
You should combine your 2.4GHz and 5GHz networks into one SSID. If you have a newer wireless device it will decide which network would be better through band steering. That way you only have one SSID and if you are closer to the hotspot you will get faster speeds when your devices moves the the 5GHz network.
EDIT: Love what you're doing Doug! It's crazy how many people are scared silly over everything around them so they comment non-stop on your videos saying everything is wrong. Keep at it!
It is important to note that those smoke detectors are also carbon monoxide detectors, if you get a exhaust leak you'll know to shut off the engine
I like the Nest, but they do have expiration date and will stop working when they expire
So do all of us.
Ive not had good experiences with the Blink cameras. They died super quickly on me. Ended up switching to a unifi/Ubiquity setup after that, which was much better.
Super Quickly? Like premature ejaculation, super quickly, or erosion of the Grand Canyon super quickly?
A friend of mine works IT Security for a research hospital... he's going to want to spend some time planning network to cordon (VLAN) those crazy researchers off. "State of the Art" research gear... runs on WInXP- if you're lucky.
Ultimately, I'd put in a pair of VM servers, a boatload (ha!) of RAID disk space, supported by it's own power / power backup with CAT-6A (shielded) and POE. But I'm a geek like that.
I don’t live on the coast but do live in the sticks and my mom has an antenna for her cell and it work great
Doug, I have the blink cameras at home. I've been happy with the battery life with them.
Right, I think it's all about what you point them and I'm not going to record anything when we are on board.
Master Doug, great video. It seems that even when you do what people want, they still find some reason to not let you do it. Glad you got insurance, hope it gets you to the water soon. Thank you for the video. Have a great weekend.
I'm using dLAN powerline 1200 plus. It passes all you network traffic using your power cables that you already have on the boat and you can have almost zero latency. Instead of the T-Mobile, there is the same thing with RJ-45 out that you can plug to the dLAN and then will send the network data all over the boat.
Extending WiFi in a faraday cage is not a great idea, if you close a door, or have to much traffic, each one will blast a lot of power and the traffic is effected in a cascading effect.
Also the small cameras I don't know them, but from designing remote cameras experience, these batteries will not last at all if you have a lot of movement and they struggle to transmit over WiFi. Best is to hook them to power somehow.
Nice!!!!!!
I have those Blink cameras around my house, and I can't quite say I hate them, but it's pretty close. They're motion activated, which means when a squirrel runs by, it gets triggered, but when the FedEx truck pulls in the driveway, it doesn't. Garbage. The battery life is completely dependent on how much it is triggered or how much you enable live mode. In one of my cameras, that seems to be about 2 months, at best, although it doesn't seem to get triggered that much, so, who the heck knows. Once I get sick of them enough, and I feel like spending a bunch of money, I'm replacing them all with NEST cameras that are wired into my electrical panel directly. I think you'll hate them, too.
They have solar panels with built in battery packs for the Blink XT cameras. I added them to the 3 of mine and haven't had to mess with them since. Prior to that, the batteries would last about 2 months. The solar panels have been connected since May and I haven't had to touch them.
Ditto. Although I don't have Blink, I have Arlo and they work the same way. The two things I found most irritating about them was 1) the 2 month battery life (the Arlo's I had used 123 cells) and 2) being triggered by motion meant you got to see the back of the heads of those leaving the premises or the car driving off. I believe the only real valuable video system would be one constantly recording to some kind of loop (i.e. continuously overwriting some local storage) but when motion triggers save off an adjustable amount of video before the trigger (like 15 seconds) and some adjustable amount of video after the motion stops or times out and that clip is what gets sent to the web or copied to local storage. I have a hard time believing that could possibly work under battery power (maybe have to change the battery every few hours) but doing it the way Blink and Arlo do is just a waste.
I was going to comment be careful about those blink cameras, but fortunately they use infrared to detect motion instead of RF! If you ever change them in the future be careful. I see alarm motion detectors killing 2.4ghz WIFI regularly at work.
I think we’ll like them. If we’re on the boat they will very likely be disabled.
@@SVSeeker they look really cool. I’m a network engineer who specialises in 802.11, so if you ever have issues I’d be happy to help wherever I could. Great work on the boat, I’ve been watching the progress for years, (around the time you started welded the Hull with the big sheets of steel) I have huge amounts of respect for you and your persistence with SV Seeker. The day she goes in the water will be a proud moment!! :)
It doesn't take so many 2.4 ghz devices (can be headphones, remotes etc.) to saturate that frequency range for wifi and become troublesome. 5ghz is preferred when you have many devices and also trying lower output to avoid mirroring that causes interference. Should try using wire as much as possible. Amplifiers saturate the air as wells as propagates wait time. A wifi device that is connected and have a very bad connection but is sending/receiving will bring down the speed of every other device because wifi is mostly one device talks at a time. Also when a device changes amplifier or Hotspot on same network all connections are lost and reestablished, software handles this differently from nothing to a wait time to crash.
I think you've done a wonderful job of making backups for systems that should keep you going for a long time. And if something fails, you just fix it... simple!
You should go around and change all your outlet to 4 gang boxes anywhere you have the space on the wall for it.
We'll add em as we have need but I like waiting for a need first.
I hope the cameras are smart enough not to wake up when it's just waves.
I think the mobile hot spot is the better way to go.
With the way that tech improves and changes, it doesn’t make much sense to invest in some kind of hard-mounted system that’ll just end up being obsolete in a couple years.
That's sort of the cool part about technology. It's obsolete quickly. Granted, my the only reason I have a new iPhone is because it has a better camera. : )
I used to use a T-Mobile mobile hotspot for years before iPhone personal hotspot was a thing. 2.4Gig on the wifi is all I can reliably use around my house. You are right about Starlink, it will definitely be the way of the future, particularly for SV Seeker. I can actually see the SpaceX launch pad from my porch in Port Isabel. As a retired fire investigator, I can assure you that you are right when it comes to smoke detectors! It has got to be one of the most horrific ways to die and yet it is so preventable. Hope you get to the water real soon.
It's questionable whether Starlink's business model makes sense.
@@seanfyodorovich5230 Well 1% of the global ISP business is about $50 billion per year and I got to believe StarLink will capture way more of the market share than that, probably to the point of the capacity of the network. Given that nobody else can do what Elon is doing, he will have close to zero competition. What part of that scenario does not make sense?
Does Starlink need a stable platform for pointing?
@@marksinclair701 currently it is not mobile however I would bet that it will change in the future. As I understand it, the pizza dish antenna automatically positions itself. I signed up a long time ago but I’m too far south for the current network.
The blink are pretty good, mine last about 9 month to a year depending on use, Nice device though
I use wifi extender from my house to grage bc house has metal on outside and it works amazing
I suggest a PepLink router, and some high gain omni antennas on top of the wheelhouse. That way you can get a better experience. You can be farther away from a tower and still get good service. It’s also a more permanent solution. And you can use your UniFi router! Let me know if you have any questions
A comedian once commented that escalators were the best thing because they could not break.... They just become stairs instead
So with my experience with battery cameras, You are right they will not last long at all on battery with all the motion around the boat I'm going to guess 1-2 months. But i did notice micro usb ports, perhaps you can get long usb cables and power them from a near by outlet. I would not recommend having them upload the footage to the cloud as it will use a ton of data through your T mobile. I also agree about the comment below about hardwiring them in with ethernet and power over ethernet.
love my Nest smoke/CO detectors, and their motion activated night lights! just enough to see by when all else is off .... might want to consider a Nest cam, one of the cheapest and the best is the Nest Hello doorbell, has the widest view angle and all the advanced features; I'm thinking of getting a few more to use as call buttons for two way communication, I could see how that might be helpful to see + talk across a boat - all the Nest products integrate together in the same app, but the cams might have to use cloud storage for replay(but they do now have wireless battery ones, and they USB recharge) .... I bet there are also other cam doorbells, that could be worth thinking about; as it might be really handy to be able to just physically push a button to get someone's attention on the bridge, then the captain would know to see and hear what is going on in that area - mine flash the video and audio up on a 'smart screen' whenever anyone pushes the button, as cameras are great after the incident to see what happened(too late to do anything about it then tho), but boring to have to sit and watch live; however the doorbell cams can get someone's attention when needed right then
Hi Doug, great video. I'm sure you've already changed the password to your login, it was viewable in the paused screen.
Mesh isn't the best solution to uses on the steel boat. Better option would be invest in the access point and connect them vis cat5 Ethhernet. Also, better to get better mobile (cell) network router with ethernet ports, to any router and mobile (cell) network dongle. Love your videos, good luck. GK
Sound advice on smokedetecters on boats be unafraid not dumb live life to its fullest with wisdom be happy be safe be blessed
Those blink cameras seem convenient, but I worry that the mount isn't designed for the motion of a boat. I'm worried the first time you get a little bit of wave action all your cameras are going to fall off. Certainly not an impossible problem to solve but one that jumped out at me; time will tell.
Thanks for another update!
Yeah we'll do better mounts but only after we figure out where we actually want them. I'm sure one, maybe two will be up on the mast.
I'd take every gadgets' cover plate off and grease the circuits with petroleum jelly.
Most mobile hotspots can connect over the USB port too. You’ll probably get better LAN performance using the ubiquity router than the hotspot. The router in the mobile hotspot is probably a pretty low memory and cpu powered one and might struggle with large numbers of clients connected.
Some access points with Ethernet and power over Ethernet would be more reliable than the extenders. You could also run the router and access points off of DC of that’s appealing.
Looks like you came up with a good solution for you though, and being able to maintain and understand the system is more important than performance considerations.
I’d also recommend making yourself a little board or something to strap all the networking stuff onto to keep it properly cools and accessible like other electronics on the boat.
You might like to consicer a backup phone just incase it fails or you drop it in the water.
You mean a radio? :)
@@SVSeeker You call them cell phones.
if you at some point get a hotspot with an ethernet output, get some access point with an ehternet backbone
I bet Starlink will come with an ethernet jack.
@@SVSeeker yeah it does
Apparently they say the fire on Conception was due to everyone recharging their I phones and such and yes I agree only having one exit available on a boat that has 39 passengers is a recipe for disaster and should down right illegal. In Canada for instance you cannot even rent out your basement apartment without having two different exits available to the tenants.
I’m actually not one for more rules. I’m an advocate for more responsible people.
@@SVSeeker Actually I agree with you whole heartily on that one. Problem is most people aren't responsible its a catch two situation I ques or as they say a catch 22
what I would do:
- buy 3/4 cheap domestic routers (gigabit), and flash them with dd-wrt or openwrt.
- wire them through ethernet along the boat. maybe run a 24v cable along to power them all. have a DC/DC to regulate to 12v
connect a LTE modem to the first on the chain.
Mast antenna > LTE modem > first router > second router > third router > etc....
to make it better you can wire back every acess point but I don't see the need for it.
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Make the cameras wired. Do you have any on top of the mast? could be useful to have some monitoring hard access systems.
don't go for the expensive ones, can always open them and epoxy the pcb's to avoid corrosion
everything recording to a central dvr
once you have starlink or similar you can use it to stream the cameras
this would probably be reliable enough
How much is the subscription for the UNEDITED 24/hr live stream from the boat?
Cheaper to just build your own boat.
I think what you have done is truly amazing! Can’t wait to see the boat afloat and headed down river!
My only question for you is why didn’t you build “cabins”? I just think everyone sleeping in a communal bunk space is going to get old. Also why not add a water maker?
Private cabins are for charter boats, not work boats. : ) ...and we have already built the watermaker. th-cam.com/video/CnerqXOIHwg/w-d-xo.html
it's actually better to use a HDD for the cameras. the flash in the USB stick is rely limited rewrites. and that is te reason for you replace the SD card in a cam every 12 month. SO dependent on the rewrite your USB stick have and the amount you write you can calculate the lifetime they have. i gues the rewrite is in the order of 200-400 times guaranteed (normal is 150-500 dependent on chip used and quality) normally they fail within 500-1000 cycles. so a 1TB stick should only be written to about 200TB before it should need to be replaced.
Iridium communications? Global satellite, don't know what it costs but has been around since the beginning
Check with "Sailing SV Delos" channel. They now have satellite internet worldwide. Headed to Panama canal now.
Starlink. Powerline ethernet adapter with Access point on the end. Internet in Germany was expensive so we berried very long extension cord running from one barracks to another and attached powerline ethernet adapter on both ends, one end pugged into the wall. Worked like a charm, use it to play Star wars galaxies (MMORPG). DD-WRT flashed router to act as both access point, repeater, etc.
Epic! Although I would wire everything that can be wired with Cat 6 and power over ethernet
We'll likely hard wire some stuff but after we figure out where we want it.
Are you having a WiFi unit upon deck so when your Love Me Tender is out researching they have internet also. Another inspiring video cheers Master Doug.
Not sure that will be a regular requirement, but we could always move an antenna.
Couldn’t you use a raspberry pi to connect to the t-mobile and then hard wire to the router cube??
Hey a cellular modem like the 'insty connect' would be better hot spot..
Of course, A Sat modem is best, but it's not there yet..
You may not be on the water but you're on a really cool ship and that's pretty good.
you'll have starlink before us rural folks in canada and the usa. starlink is only for towns/citys right now or if you live a few miles out of one.
That's strange because it can't compete with high density areas. Cox cable is much cheaper here.
@@SVSeeker they rolled it out very strangely here in Canada. I could order starlink this very minute in a city 20 miles from me but all of us on farms/small towns with no cell phone service and internet are stuck with pre orders. From what I understand they targeted populated areas first to get as many beta testers as possible.
@@tylerbaldwin1633 That is strange. The other problem is that the US mobile units; when available, may not work outside the US.
@@SVSeeker Yeah it is very strange also just the other day my February 8th of this year pre order got pushed back to april of next year i was supposed to get my dish mid/late this year. some people are using there starlink dishes mobile already there is this guy on reddit that has used his in 70+ locations across the usa and canada.
I would run CAT6 everywhere, and use a mesh system for wifi.
Yeah, we'll likely run some wire later, but after we figure out what and where we want stuff.
I hung a fan 🇺🇸
No photo. It did not happen. : )
Good stuff as usual learning from your videos!
Me too. : )
Should do a show on Safety / Rescue / Life-Vest / First-Aid Equipment ! Is there a Float-able Stretcher / Litter on Board ? YYZ Mohawk-Planker ..." Ankers-Away " ! SHARK - REPELLENT ...
I got some good mosquito repellent.
hey if I want to contact you for video creation how do I contact you? because there is no contact that you leave here thanks before
im laughing right now. watching this video on my computer connected to some good speakers and when you said alexa say my name my alexa ( sitting next to my computer) responded with " im not sure who you are but youre connected to jeffreys account". go figure.
I think you can change the name of the rooms. Personalize them.
You can change the labels but not the audio.
@@SVSeeker well that's no fun
Not for nothing do all navies around the world train for dealing with fire at sea. It is THE number one danger on a ship.
Not a bad idea for anyone but the Navy guys are trained to be exceptionally paranoid. I think they forget that source of the fire is someone else trying to destroy them. I do wish they would relax when not on a target vessel. : )
Amazon..all those shipping container boats gonna be using it probably.