Talking Venetian plaster wax, the different type of wax, soaps and sealers from Firmolux
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- Venetian plaster wax, soap and sealers from firmolux
The difference between them and how to apply and polish them.
Spatula Wax - amzn.to/2YU0ugi
Savon de Marseille (soap sealer) - amzn.to/31IXLrS
Decor Wax
Bees Wax - amzn.to/3lx1b9j
Trowel- amzn.to/3jxDkV3
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Absolutely thankful, this is so helpful, been looking for this information, for a good week, I can finally stop the search. cheers
Yay- so stoked to see this video!
My mentor always said “natural finish = natural wax” & to always use olive oil soap (savon) on lime finish to maintain the permeability & prevent lime eating the wax. Its awesome to see u showing the differences & types- thanx ron!
I like how you remove brushmarks by troweling wet on wet. Thank you Ron, very good video👍
Thanks Ron! That was very informative!
I have been in love with venetian plaster since 2019 when I first had the chance to see it for the first time. Time came for me to paint my living room and I was ecstatic to find venetian plaster in America. My husband and I ordered it and did all the work that is needed. We applied three coats of the venetian plaster and then I took on the task of burnishing with a trowel while my husband was applying last coat on some of the walls. The walls were looking really good with some small spots here and there where the walls were not perfectly straight, (but is what we had to work with). Because of some small imperfect areas after the last coat, my husband used a sand paper here and there to fix it. Then I went to burnish it again but it didn't make it shiny like before. He even used one of those electrical tools to polish it but I had to stop him because it was leaving some streaks on the wall. He said they will eventually cover when we were going to apply the wax. We applied a thin layer of wax (that came with the plaster) and he used the electrical tool with a different soft pad to polish it but it doesn't look near as shiny as other videos I've watched. I am completely heart broken because the end result is not like what I've seen and we don't know what to do and how can we fix it? Please help us and tell us what can we do now to make it really shiny. I tried to go over the wax with the trowel but it doesn't look like there is any difference? How many coats of wax can we apply? Please, please help us. The walls now are a little shiny, in some spots they are not that shiny, some spots have streaks looking like on top and overall it looks like there is just some grease over the walls after the wax. This is a desperate call for advise. Overall is looking (especially when the light hits the walls) like there are scratches on the walls and after the wax it looks like we just smeared lard over the walls.
you have to apply another layer of plaster and try to burnish again. wax dont make it shiny it just seals it. burnish what makes plaster glossy and shiny
Thanks SO much for these vids Ron. Wow, they are just incredibly helpful :)
So many enjoyable rabbit holes.
Thank you for this video
Congrats on 10k subscribers Ron!
Thank you for this video- really gives you a better idea on how the coloring may change with each product. If you were dealing with a time constraint issue, which sealer do you feel is the most versatile and easiest, in your opinion, to apply. Granted, depending on the color and look you are going for in regards to sheen, do you feel there is one product/sealer finish that most clients are happy with(a “middle of the road” option)? I always learn so much with these videos😊
Slight off topic questions in the use of these four materials:
What heat level can these materials tolerate?
For example, can a soap or wax sealer be used on an electric fireplace facade or in a steam shower?
If using an extra fine, filtered, creamy, Venetian-like textured Microcement, would any of these sealers have a similar effect on that material in terms of enhancing richness of colour tone?
I’ve noticed you use a lot of the same brands of plaster many of us use & would LOVE a video sharing your thoughts on the various brands (Novacolor, FirmoLux, Firenze, Meoded, San Marco, Color Atelier, Limestrong, etc) & which lines you like most....
I know most ppl are brand loyal but having experimented with most of those I do find there can sometimes be quite a difference- not sure if its based on the region of italy they’re made, how old the slaking is, or if its just manufacturing quality difference (some have very consistent micron grits in the marmarino offerings while others seem to be varied)
Which company do you like best? I feel firmolux is the best value for the money.
I’m going to use their plaster on my range wood. Are all the sealers washable?
Which wax is best for plaster shower walls? They all look great… but which is best for a wet area like a shower? Thanks for the amazing videos Ron!!
Sweet Ron 👌
Hi Ron, nice presentation! Question: Which wax is more water resistant, Spatula wax or Decor wax?
I didn't like the beeswax - it left my project a "cloudy" sorta mess and so, I stopped.... thankfully I did it in a section where it wasn't going to be visible because the vanity was being placed there. Used Firmolux Marmorino Venetian Plaster (2 coats), then the Firmolux beeswax.... Didn't get that great shine yours got -- tried and tried and tried to buff it and the cloudiness wouldn't go away. Stirred it well before, as you suggested, kept a light amount and didn't oversaturate... was either a bad batch or it just didn't wanna work with the plaster. Gonna try the soap instead.
How did you apply the beeswax? It sounds like it went on to thick and trapped moisture in the beeswax it may dry clear in time
@@RonaldLayman Hey Ron, I applied it on pretty light with a white rag after watching your video a couple times to ensure all was good... Just didn't seem to work out for whatever reason. I've been doing Venetian plaster for about 4 years now, this was the first time I've done a project in a bathroom so first time I've ever need a sealant. I think I'll just go w/ troweling on the Savon de Marseille
I always enjoy and I think the best look over Mina at the sealer is definitely the French soup doesn’t give it a high. It just gives it a beautiful, soft luster, but you gotta be careful. Careful there’s a lot of these products out there now and everybody starting to like reformulate products here claiming their design in Italy because they’re trying to cough and they’re buying it Lately email me your information and I can send you a sample of my French soap that I have ron@thefauxschool.com
Is there any big price difference in the finish coats
What type of sealant would you recommend for a venetian plaster kitchen backsplash?
You know the soap wax works as a waterproof layer if it goes on a not quite dry base?? The stearic acid in the soap reacts with the lime plaster and forms a water repellent layer. But the lime needs to be slightly hydrated
That’s not this technique, but yes I know that. Please don’t add information that is not about the specific technique to avoid confusing people
Looks great 👍 I like the beeswax but they all give great texture and finish.
Question
Witch venetian plasters do you sand with 1500 to 2000 grit to bring out the shine instead of trowel burnishing. other than the metallic plasters please
This video helped me choose a finishing coat so thank you! I went with the soap and love how it came out. About 3 weeks after I finished my wall I got a small leak in my roof and the soap coat has water lines running down it. Any advice for how to repair the soap coat? The plaster seems to be fine
I've been watching your videos for over 2 years... Thank you!! I've been making my own beeswax with turpentine with great results. BUT - the 'lintless' microfiber towels shed. What do you use? I can't tell if it's cheesecloth or something else. Please illuminate us!
hey mate im currently doing a house in Bali. Due to the lime products not existing here, I have sourced quicklime from a mine, slacked my own putty, local workers are rendering the external + internal walls as i type...finishing coat is a mixture of putty and lime sand i have sourced also (alot of sourcing here to use these materials)...thin skim coat finish, steel trowel finish. Question is; what is a good natural sealant i could use externally especially as a water repellant that is suitable and breathable product for lime plastering? I would most likely have to use a natural product as not much is available here. There are limestone tile sealants (chemical base)?...any thoughts how i could problem solve here? Wet season is really wet here, none wet season is hot...
Hi, a limestone tile sealer should work, I’d make a sample first and check for c compatibility and longevity I’ve used similar types of sealers on floors and it had no issue
Did you burnish these samples before waxing them, usually grasello with polished beeswax = mirror
gonna try some decor wax
Can you use these waxes on modern masters Venetian plaster? And what was the color code for that blue color?
Once the wax is on the plaster, can I add more plaster to the piece or would I have to remove the wax first?
What about the mineral sealer?
Hi Ron sorry if this has been asked but how long do you wait for the wax's to dry before polishing?
Apply morning, then return in the afternoon to polish was my understanding.
Hi Ron, I used the Savon finish behind a sink and it has stains from soapy water (looks like permanent water drops). Otherwise the soap finish is very water resistant from the steamy bathroom. Which sealer would you say is the best for high-use areas for preventing stains?
@@RonaldLayman it is a smooth but not glossy finished lime plaster.
Great tutorial ... but the showing of the shines dont work its too dark in your Studio i guess 👍
How long do you usually leave the spatula wax before you polish it?
I made a limewash with natural pigment- it came out a bit chalky and I’d like to seal it. Would you recommend beeswax or soap? I’d like less of a “tacky feel”
This is really helpful. Do we need to seal the Marmarino HYDRO before applying Firmolux or Beeswax? It’s on a kitchen backsplash.
I’m a little confused, Firmolux is the brand that makes marmorino and the bees wax. If I’m doing a backslash I would seal with decor wax. That’s a permanent sealer, beeswax will come off in time IF you clean or wipe down
What is the most durable?
Is all water proof, what should I use for a bathroom?
What material are you using in the wall? That will help me recommend the best sealer for your project
can any of these be used outside?
Hey Ronald, what would be the most suitable for using in a kitchen? behind a cooker for example so i can wipe it clean
I would use Firmolux decor wax
What is the name of the liquid beeswax? It's hard to find .google sucks.
Call Firmolux directly, 1 (941) 366-5550 ask for anthony . You want the “beeswax” that’s what ron used in the video, that’s what it’s called by Firmolux
Can you machine polish synthetic wax?
I don’t do a lot with some thetic waxes but if synthetic wax for each referring to give me polish with a soft cloth and I’m sure I can polish for the machine at a low speed