Building the F&M Schaefer Brewery with insight into E.L. Moore

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  • @danconlin3456
    @danconlin3456 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Wow, I think this is my favourite model railroad video of 2024. I've seen this kit for years, good to see how it comes together but even better to learn about E. L. Moore who designed so many of these old classic kits that I've seen around for years.

    • @CassidysWorkshop
      @CassidysWorkshop  11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you, I appreciate it. Yes, I felt the same as I was finding out about Mr. Moore. So many of the kits I grew up with came from his designs.

  • @rogerhuber3133
    @rogerhuber3133 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    E.L.Moore was an author I always looked forward to seeing in the mags back then growing up. He was very creative and seemed to enjoy his creations. So many have become "standards" among modelers over the years like the beautiful plastic kits by Revell. You couldn't find a layout in those days without several of them. Thanks for informing some newer modelers to Mr. Moore and his legacy. Nice job on the kit.

    • @CassidysWorkshop
      @CassidysWorkshop  14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you, Roger. You're right, I think we've been influenced by him more than we know. I also want to do more research on the old Revell kits, I had built a number of them back in the 60s.

  • @rwissbaum9849
    @rwissbaum9849 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thanks for the trip down memory lane. I remember seeing E. L. Moore's articles in Model Railroader, but I had no idea that he was so prolific. And it goes without saying, I am *always* a fan of taking an old model out of the box and getting it ready for the layout! Nice job.

    • @CassidysWorkshop
      @CassidysWorkshop  14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks, Richard. I wish I had read more of his articles back then, but I'm catching up as I can.

  • @Petemonster62
    @Petemonster62 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I built one years ago - I think it was the kit that was sold by TYCO. I took the wood barrels, sanded the sides smooth, put the barrel lids on upside down, and painted them silver to represent modern metal beer kegs.

    • @CassidysWorkshop
      @CassidysWorkshop  13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Cool, neat idea. Do you remember if your version had molded-in bracing for the legs of the wooden deck? I'm trying to find which one had that. Thanks for watching.

    • @Petemonster62
      @Petemonster62 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@CassidysWorkshop - I don't recall my brewery model having the diagonal truss bracing on the platform legs. I still have it somewhere, so I'll look for it and verify if it has bracing.

    • @CassidysWorkshop
      @CassidysWorkshop  12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Petemonster62 Thanks, it's great that you still have it.👍

  • @ProfessorTrain743
    @ProfessorTrain743 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Fantastic! I’ve always wondered about the differences between those models. I’m looking forward to learning about E.L. Moore’s buildings.

    • @CassidysWorkshop
      @CassidysWorkshop  12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes, I've found it to be an interesting journey, and don't know where it will lead. Thanks for watching.

  • @warminghurst
    @warminghurst 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The plastic injection moulds for the 'Brewery' were Made and held by POLA who manufactured in Germany. (Pola is now a part of Faller).
    There was an additional boxing for Playcraft a UK distributor, they were very original(?) in their numbering and used 806 the same as the Pola part number.

    • @CassidysWorkshop
      @CassidysWorkshop  12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thanks, that supports what I've read of Pola doing the casting for AHM and others. It makes more sense than the molds being passed around from company to company. I knew that Faller acquired Pola's N & HO kits, I wonder if they still have the molds. Thanks for watching.

  • @modelrailroader5619
    @modelrailroader5619 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Glad to know all the parts were there when you built it. I have one on my layout and it serves as a “Hawkins Cheezies” factory.

    • @CassidysWorkshop
      @CassidysWorkshop  12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah, it was hard to tell with all the pieces loose in the box. Now I'm hungry for a snack. 😄 Thanks for watching.

  • @garyjust.johnson1436
    @garyjust.johnson1436 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Small kits are great slump busters! Very nice!

  • @clearlycaribbeanreb2895
    @clearlycaribbeanreb2895 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    When I was a kid, I always wanted the TYCO brewery kit!

    • @CassidysWorkshop
      @CassidysWorkshop  13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@clearlycaribbeanreb2895 Thanks for watching. I know the feeling, I always wanted the Revell Switch Tower. Did you ever get it?

    • @clearlycaribbeanreb2895
      @clearlycaribbeanreb2895 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@CassidysWorkshop No, I never did. As I aged, my interested shifting to mid-80’s Chessie System WV mine shifters in HO Scale. Not a lot of room for a brewery! Maybe a moonshine still!

    • @CassidysWorkshop
      @CassidysWorkshop  13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@clearlycaribbeanreb2895 😄 Sounds like a good switch. 👍

  • @garychestnut6380
    @garychestnut6380 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Nice job Greg! Thanks for history going to look up E.L. Moore.

    • @CassidysWorkshop
      @CassidysWorkshop  14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks, Gary. I appreciate it.

  • @30Squares
    @30Squares 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Your model looks great! And thanks for mentioning my eBook on E. L. Moore. He was a fascinating model railroader and an inspiration to many.

    • @CassidysWorkshop
      @CassidysWorkshop  14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Mr. Lowe, I'm so glad you said it was OK to use parts of your blog, and that you found my video. I wish I could have given more information about Mr. Moore, but I hope that those interested will visit your blog for more about a legend of our hobby. Thank you for your research and for sharing it. 👍

  • @jimjohnston7688
    @jimjohnston7688 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Another first rate job. Interestingly the Heinz pickle factory is pretty much the same except clapboard instead of brickwork. The late Art Curran wrote a booklet on kitbashing structures and two of these kits were combined to make a completely different structure. I’ve got 2 on my layout. I wouldn’t be surprised if POLA in Germany made all the pieces all along and TYCO, Model Power, etc just ordered a certain number of kits and had them put in their own boxes

    • @CassidysWorkshop
      @CassidysWorkshop  14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thank you, Jim. Art was right, these are great for kitbashing. I think I read in Mr. Lowe's book that Pola was involved in the design or creation of the first kits put out by AHM. And likely the ones for Tyco and Model Power. But I have seen a couple small differences in them, I wonder how those come about. The more I read about these the more questions I have.

    • @Petemonster62
      @Petemonster62 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It seems the name POLA was often molded on the building's base of many AHM structures.

    • @CassidysWorkshop
      @CassidysWorkshop  12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Petemonster62 And I've seen Tyco molded into the underside of the roof on the Tyco version. It seems they could do minor changes like that, perhaps depending on the contractual specifications of producing it.

  • @hoscalemodeltrains1221
    @hoscalemodeltrains1221 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Well done

    • @CassidysWorkshop
      @CassidysWorkshop  14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thank you. I see you did a kitbash of one of the AHM kits. I watched the first episode, I'll sub and go watch the rest. I respect seeing one of these old kits brought into the 21st Century.

    • @hoscalemodeltrains1221
      @hoscalemodeltrains1221 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@CassidysWorkshop Thanks, I started out with the idea of kitbashing a Tony Koester model then went a different direction. I love these old kits, it's what i had when i was a kid.

    • @CassidysWorkshop
      @CassidysWorkshop  14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@hoscalemodeltrains1221 Same here, except I remember the old Revell kits more. I think I did a bunch of them. I spend most of my time building craftsman and lasercut kits, but these old plastic ones can be fun.

  • @collectioneur
    @collectioneur 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Still have the Pola version, simple but great models for young people without a lot of money…

    • @CassidysWorkshop
      @CassidysWorkshop  9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@collectioneur Yes they were. And in fact, they still are. A friend of mine was just gifted one by a friend of his for Christmas. He's looking forward to building it, even though he doesn't have room on his layout for another one. Thanks for watching.

  • @tommcg5930
    @tommcg5930 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I had the Tyco version

    • @CassidysWorkshop
      @CassidysWorkshop  12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@tommcg5930 Do you still have it? I have a question about that one. Thanks for watching.

    • @tommcg5930
      @tommcg5930 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@CassidysWorkshop it has been gone since the 70s. Many many years ago. I remember the little barrels that came with the kit.

    • @CassidysWorkshop
      @CassidysWorkshop  11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@tommcg5930 Hard to be a brewery without barrels. 😄

  • @michaelquinones-lx6ks
    @michaelquinones-lx6ks 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    That would make a nice pottery factory or a custom iron works or a craft beer brewery for today's ''hipsters''

    • @CassidysWorkshop
      @CassidysWorkshop  14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you, that's some of the fun of building models is thinking what they might be in real life.

    • @michaelquinones-lx6ks
      @michaelquinones-lx6ks 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@CassidysWorkshop Thank you very much for responding to my comment, Much appreciated.

    • @CassidysWorkshop
      @CassidysWorkshop  13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@michaelquinones-lx6ks Thanks for watching. 👍

  • @jeffsikes5312
    @jeffsikes5312 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    LIONEL MADE THOSE KITS TO FOR HO SCALE.

    • @CassidysWorkshop
      @CassidysWorkshop  14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks, Jeff. I'll have to look into their kit as well.

  • @danielbayer278
    @danielbayer278 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I've built several old kits by IHC, AHM etc. and the instructions are often pretty bad. Some of them look practically hand-drawn. Great job, though.

    • @CassidysWorkshop
      @CassidysWorkshop  13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Thanks. Yeah, I've done some old ones, both plastic and craftsman kits, where you had to almost figure out how to put it together yourself. And that's OK, if you have a photo or drawing showing what both sides should look like. Heck, some old wood kits all you get is a photo. Which can be enough depending on the kit.

  • @chrisbarr1359
    @chrisbarr1359 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    We're they stealing his ideas or did he get paid to design these buildings?
    Today you still see manufacturers, Walters for example, using the same or nearly the same sprues to make a number of different kits. The upside is it lends itself to kitbashing.

    • @CassidysWorkshop
      @CassidysWorkshop  14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No, they weren't stealing them. I don't know all the arrangements yet, I'm still reading some of the entries that James Lowe made, and his book has some of the communication between E.L. Moore, the magazine editors, and the manufacturers. And yes, you're right, these are all great for kitbashing. Thanks for watching.

    • @30Squares
      @30Squares 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      No, those other manufacturers weren't stealing the designs. AHM manufactured them first, but as time went on the tooling was sold to other to other companies. Over the years some of the kits changed hands several times.

    • @warminghurst
      @warminghurst 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@30Squares Pola in Germany were responsible for making many/most of the plastic kits for AHM and later Model Power and Tyco, as well as for the UK Playcraft. The cardboard boxes (and instruction sheets) appear to have been the responsibility of the distributing companies using their own marketing sources and individual styles.
      I can imagine crates of sprues crossing the pond and then being matched into kits then put into the boxes in the US.

    • @30Squares
      @30Squares 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@warminghurst Thank you for the clarification. In my eBook I discussed the events that lead to certain E L Moore projects becoming plastic kits, but had no information on the business aspects of the production of those kits. Your information helps to put the whole story together.

    • @CassidysWorkshop
      @CassidysWorkshop  12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@30Squares Indeed, I find it fascinating how different companies would be having the same kits made for them, possibly with some minor changes for their run. I saw a kit of the brewery from Tyco with their name molded in the underside of the roof. And I see their kit has the supports molded into the platform legs, where it looks like the other manufacturers (?) just have straight legs.

  • @BrianRochon
    @BrianRochon 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Looks like $50 minimum to me,

    • @CassidysWorkshop
      @CassidysWorkshop  14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@BrianRochon 😆 Thanks, Brian. We'll see.