@@hooked4lifeca Amazing. I'd love to hear your advice on setting up single hand spey equipment. I'm especially curious about the rods and lines. thank you!
@@fe671 I already have a video on Spey casting single hand lines, which ones work best, which ones will be adequate: th-cam.com/video/eNxtxa1ij1g/w-d-xo.html
One thing I noticed tonight practicing was that if I had too much line out and was into the running line, the cast becomes much harder to perform. With weight forward line, is there area of the head that should be at your top guide?
Usually we want some of the rear taper in the guides. If we have running line out of the guides when using a regular trout line, things start to get tricky.
Slow motion is really useful. :_- ANrd age repetitions help a lot. I think I stumbled on the snake roll myself a coupe of years ago-some kind of instinct But its a good idea to perfect ir. . :-)
Simon Gawseworth is usually credited with the Snake Roll and he has said that it originally started out as just a way of getting line out before making the actual cast. I think a lot of us stumble on something accidentally. I became quite good at the Oval (Belgian) Cast before I knew it was actually a thing. I just started doing it as a way of replacing the roll cast when trying rods and lines on grass.
@@hooked4lifeca Thanks. I guess many people fall onto these ways of casting, but the we need to perfect them. I had a fwet ly downstream and wanted to get it up steam without hauling in and re-casting the usual way. I did a snake roll (or very close to one) without realising it. I then did it a few more times and it generally worked well, No breeze against me of course. :-)
In all of these videos, I'm just using a standard WF-4-F trout line on my 4 wt. rod. Part of the purpose of these videos was to demonstrate that no specialty equipment is required to make Spey casts at conventional trout distances.
Picture a 9 that the rod tip inscribes in the air. The tip starts at the bottom of the 9 and traces the outline of it. However, the tip does not stop when it reaches the vertical bar of the 9 (as we would when we are writing it from the bottom up). It continues on into the backcast, so it "crosses the bar".
Love it! This has been so useful and efficient when swinging wets
Thanks for the instructional ... loving the slow motion breakdown
This was awesome. It included some nice details that are missing from Rio's videos on these techniques.
Thankyou for this valuable information on the snake roll, look forward to trying it! Your videos are most helpful to increase my fishing experience !
Snake rolls are great. They are so simple and fun to use and super useful.
Your demos of the single spey and snake rolls are wonderful-the best I've seen. They are more than enough for me Thanks.:-)
Excellent explanation and nice production. Thanks!
Nice, simple demo!
Thanks, great instructions
Good casting!
What is the maximum casting distance?
Spey casting with this setup? About 50' to 60'.
@@hooked4lifeca Amazing. I'd love to hear your advice on setting up single hand spey equipment. I'm especially curious about the rods and lines. thank you!
@@fe671 I already have a video on Spey casting single hand lines, which ones work best, which ones will be adequate: th-cam.com/video/eNxtxa1ij1g/w-d-xo.html
One thing I noticed tonight practicing was that if I had too much line out and was into the running line, the cast becomes much harder to perform. With weight forward line, is there area of the head that should be at your top guide?
Usually we want some of the rear taper in the guides. If we have running line out of the guides when using a regular trout line, things start to get tricky.
What would you suggest for upstream casting into the wind with no room for a back cast?
With a dry fly*
A regular overhead cast, steeple cast or a Belgian oval cast. Spey casts are useless for dry flies as the fly never gets to dry out.
Slow motion is really useful. :_- ANrd age repetitions help a lot. I think I stumbled on the snake roll myself a coupe of years ago-some kind of instinct But its a good idea to perfect ir. . :-)
Simon Gawseworth is usually credited with the Snake Roll and he has said that it originally started out as just a way of getting line out before making the actual cast. I think a lot of us stumble on something accidentally. I became quite good at the Oval (Belgian) Cast before I knew it was actually a thing. I just started doing it as a way of replacing the roll cast when trying rods and lines on grass.
@@hooked4lifeca Thanks. I guess many people fall onto these ways of casting, but the we need to perfect them. I had a fwet ly downstream and wanted to get it up steam without hauling in and re-casting the usual way. I did a snake roll (or very close to one) without realising it. I then did it a few more times and it generally worked well, No breeze against me of course. :-)
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what fly line should I use for such casts? with a head? how long? Thanks.
In all of these videos, I'm just using a standard WF-4-F trout line on my 4 wt. rod. Part of the purpose of these videos was to demonstrate that no specialty equipment is required to make Spey casts at conventional trout distances.
Does it also work on river left? (cack handed)
Yup, no problem, or just use your opposite hand ;)
Crossing the bar doesn’t make sense
Picture a 9 that the rod tip inscribes in the air. The tip starts at the bottom of the 9 and traces the outline of it. However, the tip does not stop when it reaches the vertical bar of the 9 (as we would when we are writing it from the bottom up). It continues on into the backcast, so it "crosses the bar".