I have a 4070 ti super and I feel like that its more than good enough for 4k on ultra settings Every single game from last gen consoles play native in ultra settings with 120+ FPS And for the newer current gen games I still get 70-90+ FPS at least on ultra settings and DLSS on quality Even Alan Wake 2 which has to be the hardest to run game on its Highest setting, 4K with DLSS ultra I get near 70FPS on average and that's without frame Gen. The Last of Us Part 1 on ultra settings with DLSS quality I get over 80 FPS which is another really demanding current gen game Resident Evil 4 remake on its highest settings with RT on native 4k I get around 80FPS Dead Space Remake on its highest settings on 4k DLSS quality I get over 90FPS Ratchet and Clank a rift apart on its highest setttings on 4K DLSS ultra I get almost 100 FPS then on competitive FPS like Fortnite and Warzone with not the greatest settings because I want more frames in those type of games I still get over 120fps in 4k DLSS Quality, over 150 actually and in Apex Legends I get over 160 native 4K at its highest settings so yeah I don't think as a 4k gamer like you said you'll always be stuck buying a $1,500-$2000 card. the $800 4070 ti super is more than good enough, there's event he 4080 Super for $200 more if you want a little more performance I always see comments like this "4k isn't worth it, You'll need a 4090 to even utilize a 4k monitor for gaming" and yeah that's not true at all Shit if Nvidia wasnt so greedy and put 16GB of VRAM on the 4070 Super that card would also be able to play almost all games in 4k with DLSS and get 60+ FPS but the VRAM makes that impossible for a few games likes Resident Evil 4 and Rachet and Clank Then if you look at AMDs side, a 7900 XTX is as powerful as the 4080 and costs as much as my 4070 ti super. as long as youre okay with FSR instead of DLSS then you have amazing 4K gaming for $800. Or a 7900 GRE for $650 is as powerful as my 4070 ti super with the same amount of vram then you're 4k gaming at $650. Gate keeping 4k gaming to stupid expensive cards is not right
Ill be the first to say that 4k in games is definitly noticeable, but 100% not needed. However a 4k panel for everything non-gaming related is way better than 1080/1440p. I bought a 3080 for $900 2 years ago (i think they go for $700 new today) and i can play relatively demanding games like Destiny 2 or Forza at 100-120 frames. Also 4k at 27in screens are definitly worth it. I switched from a 1440p 240hz 27in screen to a 4k 144hz and instantly noticed the difference in pixel density.
I have an Asus ROG Swift PG32UQ 4K HDR 144Hz monitor. I got it mostly to be able to play my PS5 at its maximum resolution and refresh rates. I ended up getting an RTX 4090 as well, because well, I wanted 4K on my PC too. Now I too am stuck in the knowledge that my upgrade cycle will always include a $1000+ GPU to keep the performance I expect from my system.
id say HDR is a bigger Difference then 4k. i had a nice 4k display but I got one with really good HDR and it just looks so much better (AOC Q27G3XMN) its a 1440p 180hz and out standing HDR
W video, my goal is to get a 4K 240hz monitor in the coming while and a rtx 5090 for both competitive games like fn and story games. Including other things like video editing but yea
you said your locked into a 1500+ dollar gpu at 4k but you didn't mention the 7900 xtx even if it is slower than a 4090 in raster and considerably slower in raytracing it can still provide good enough fps in standard raster 4k titles like halo infinite and cod while being around 900-1000 usd
Fair enough, I was looking at it from the perspective of the 4090, and what maintaining that performance would look like for future years. But you are right, even the 4080 can handle 4k, it’s just not the same elite level.
I still remember the costs involved in moving up to 1440p gaming. For that reason I won't entertain any thought of a 4K monitor for the sake of my bank account. Now if I could just get OLED out of my mind.
It's so so worth it if you arent an esports player. We have alot more games then just shooters out here. I don't play any shooters. All I do is play 4k even on my strix 4080 super. Inpy games I'm below 60 on is cyberpunk with ray trscing and alan wake which is like 55fps. But its an easy fix. I'll game at 1440p ultra sometimes but it's rare. For me I can't go back haha. The people who don't get 4k or don't undrrstand it I should say have never had a card that truely can do it without scrubbing textures or looking like 1440p. The 4080 super is the first card I've owned that truely looks better in 4k it doesn't scrub away textures it has much less shimmering and floaters. It actually is a nice difference in image quality when switching between all resolutions. And of course the display matters lol. Even my 4070 super in 4k didn't look as good as it should hsve so I stuck to 1440p with it. But man I itched for true 4k gaming so I pulled the trigger and I'm happy I did. I do need an oled for 4k gaming though which I do have. Also what is your whole setup you may be bottlenecked with your cpu if you have the same cpu from when you used the 2080ti. Just saying you may be missing out on even more performance since you talked about the lows the only reason the lows go down is due to a bottleneck. My 4080 super lows are never low unless I'm playing alan wake at 55fps then it's like 35fps lows. But if I'm over 120fps my lows never go below 100fps only time they did was when I used a 13400f with my 4080 super.
I have a 7800x3d, and my performance is never really bad with this configuration. I mostly play shooters with single player stuff on the side so my perspective skews in that direction! As I said in the video, I am a bit of an frame snob 😅
@stitchyrichie the only issue was the 13400f and you can't overclock it. I did end up buying the 13600k legit right after this and it almost took the entire bottleneck away but my 4080 super even with the 13400f in 1440p ultra and 4k was already beasting out and OC my gpu wouldn't have helped it would have made the bottleneck worse but yesh now with the 13600k almost 0 bottleneck. I'm getting very very close performance to a 4090 and yes I could OC my strix 4080 super and I could even raise the power lint to 420watts thanks to asus board power limit going so much higher then the normal tdp. But I'm good right now. Temps are insanely good noise is so good I can never really tell it's even running. So I'm happy af. I didn't need to do any of this though for 4k gaming as I was getting 98% utilization of my gpu and it was performing as well of not slightly better then most benchmarks I've seen. Only reason I bought the 1360pk was to be able to play 1080p shooter if I choose to which won't happen often but now I don't have to worry about being as cpu limited and or as bottlenecked.
No you're not locked forever into $1500+ price bracket.. More like $1000 every 4 years since the 80 series card will be fine 4k performers going forward. The 4090 is only 30% faster than the 4080.
It's cool that gaming at 4K with high frame rates is possible. Though I could never spend more than 700 dollars on a graphics card. I'll stick with high frame rates at 1080p.
If you’re playing competitive shooters it makes zero sense to play at 4k at 120-150fps when you can play at 1080p or 1440p at 480+fps and a very high refresh rate panel. I think 4k gaming should only really be used for immersive single player games to get the most of out it.
well made and professional. I didn't even realize I was watching a small channel. Great job!
I didn’t expect such a high quality video from such a small channel. Great Job!
Thank you!
Only 300 subscribers, what???? You deserve to be one of the big Tech TH-camrs man, this is great
I have a 4070 ti super and I feel like that its more than good enough for 4k on ultra settings
Every single game from last gen consoles play native in ultra settings with 120+ FPS
And for the newer current gen games I still get 70-90+ FPS at least on ultra settings and DLSS on quality
Even Alan Wake 2 which has to be the hardest to run game on its Highest setting, 4K with DLSS ultra I get near 70FPS on average and that's without frame Gen.
The Last of Us Part 1 on ultra settings with DLSS quality I get over 80 FPS which is another really demanding current gen game
Resident Evil 4 remake on its highest settings with RT on native 4k I get around 80FPS
Dead Space Remake on its highest settings on 4k DLSS quality I get over 90FPS
Ratchet and Clank a rift apart on its highest setttings on 4K DLSS ultra I get almost 100 FPS
then on competitive FPS like Fortnite and Warzone with not the greatest settings because I want more frames in those type of games I still get over 120fps in 4k DLSS Quality, over 150 actually
and in Apex Legends I get over 160 native 4K at its highest settings
so yeah I don't think as a 4k gamer like you said you'll always be stuck buying a $1,500-$2000 card.
the $800 4070 ti super is more than good enough, there's event he 4080 Super for $200 more if you want a little more performance
I always see comments like this "4k isn't worth it, You'll need a 4090 to even utilize a 4k monitor for gaming" and yeah that's not true at all
Shit if Nvidia wasnt so greedy and put 16GB of VRAM on the 4070 Super that card would also be able to play almost all games in 4k with DLSS and get 60+ FPS
but the VRAM makes that impossible for a few games likes Resident Evil 4 and Rachet and Clank
Then if you look at AMDs side, a 7900 XTX is as powerful as the 4080 and costs as much as my 4070 ti super. as long as youre okay with FSR instead of DLSS then you have amazing 4K gaming for $800. Or a 7900 GRE for $650 is as powerful as my 4070 ti super with the same amount of vram then you're 4k gaming at $650.
Gate keeping 4k gaming to stupid expensive cards is not right
Really well made video. What's ur opinion on 27-28 inch 4K IPS Panels with 160Hz+ refresh rate?
@@themarketgardener 32 inch 4k is my favorite way to play. Currently using the pg32ucdp and I love it
Ill be the first to say that 4k in games is definitly noticeable, but 100% not needed. However a 4k panel for everything non-gaming related is way better than 1080/1440p. I bought a 3080 for $900 2 years ago (i think they go for $700 new today) and i can play relatively demanding games like Destiny 2 or Forza at 100-120 frames. Also 4k at 27in screens are definitly worth it. I switched from a 1440p 240hz 27in screen to a 4k 144hz and instantly noticed the difference in pixel density.
A well written script and a good video quality. You're underrated my friend.
I have an Asus ROG Swift PG32UQ 4K HDR 144Hz monitor. I got it mostly to be able to play my PS5 at its maximum resolution and refresh rates. I ended up getting an RTX 4090 as well, because well, I wanted 4K on my PC too. Now I too am stuck in the knowledge that my upgrade cycle will always include a $1000+ GPU to keep the performance I expect from my system.
Try an ultrawide 1440p monitor. My 4090 is on this and it’s a beast. Plus you still get more screen real estate for working
Your videos are always so informative and helpful. Thank you!
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Great video! Really appreciate the insight on the 4090 with the 4k monitor!
id say HDR is a bigger Difference then 4k. i had a nice 4k display but I got one with really good HDR and it just looks so much better (AOC Q27G3XMN) its a 1440p 180hz and out standing HDR
I actually totally agree. I’ve had not the best experience with hdr support across multiple games… but when it works, it’s stunning
Oh wow, didn't expect to see this from you! xD
Pleasant surprise to wake up to a nice comment. It made my morning :)
@@EverTechReviews 4090 is a huge GPU upgrade, but I don't mind a 2080 Ti tbh (I am using a 2060 atm)
Bro what kind of desk you have ?
My desk is from Uplift Desk, had it for about 6 years or so
My Rog Strix rtx 4090 came for my Samsung QN90B 65" 4K TV. 🇧🇷
@@IzunaGaiden I have an s95b and games do look pretty great on there
thank you. I will switch to 4k when the 5000 series comes out but for now I stick with my 1440p setup.
Amazing video, very underrated
I really appreciate that
W video, my goal is to get a 4K 240hz monitor in the coming while and a rtx 5090 for both competitive games like fn and story games. Including other things like video editing but yea
Great vid bud!
hi, what keyboard?
I use the Nuphy Halo 65
super underrated, very cool!
Thank you! That means a lot
you said your locked into a 1500+ dollar gpu at 4k but you didn't mention the 7900 xtx even if it is slower than a 4090 in raster and considerably slower in raytracing it can still provide good enough fps in standard raster 4k titles like halo infinite and cod while being around 900-1000 usd
Fair enough, I was looking at it from the perspective of the 4090, and what maintaining that performance would look like for future years. But you are right, even the 4080 can handle 4k, it’s just not the same elite level.
Me with a oled 1440p 360hz monitor with 4070 still doing bits
I still remember the costs involved in moving up to 1440p gaming.
For that reason I won't entertain any thought of a 4K monitor for the sake of my bank account.
Now if I could just get OLED out of my mind.
can relate... ive been eyeballing those new 240hz oled 4k ones.....
I tried 4k once but for me it didnt felt big when it came to experience 1440p is enough/perfect for me
@@sarkadisf do you also play at 27inches?
@@EverTechReviews yes
It's so so worth it if you arent an esports player. We have alot more games then just shooters out here. I don't play any shooters. All I do is play 4k even on my strix 4080 super. Inpy games I'm below 60 on is cyberpunk with ray trscing and alan wake which is like 55fps. But its an easy fix. I'll game at 1440p ultra sometimes but it's rare. For me I can't go back haha.
The people who don't get 4k or don't undrrstand it I should say have never had a card that truely can do it without scrubbing textures or looking like 1440p. The 4080 super is the first card I've owned that truely looks better in 4k it doesn't scrub away textures it has much less shimmering and floaters. It actually is a nice difference in image quality when switching between all resolutions. And of course the display matters lol. Even my 4070 super in 4k didn't look as good as it should hsve so I stuck to 1440p with it. But man I itched for true 4k gaming so I pulled the trigger and I'm happy I did.
I do need an oled for 4k gaming though which I do have.
Also what is your whole setup you may be bottlenecked with your cpu if you have the same cpu from when you used the 2080ti. Just saying you may be missing out on even more performance since you talked about the lows the only reason the lows go down is due to a bottleneck. My 4080 super lows are never low unless I'm playing alan wake at 55fps then it's like 35fps lows. But if I'm over 120fps my lows never go below 100fps only time they did was when I used a 13400f with my 4080 super.
I have a 7800x3d, and my performance is never really bad with this configuration. I mostly play shooters with single player stuff on the side so my perspective skews in that direction! As I said in the video, I am a bit of an frame snob 😅
Oc your card or just do some bios settings
@stitchyrichie the only issue was the 13400f and you can't overclock it. I did end up buying the 13600k legit right after this and it almost took the entire bottleneck away but my 4080 super even with the 13400f in 1440p ultra and 4k was already beasting out and OC my gpu wouldn't have helped it would have made the bottleneck worse but yesh now with the 13600k almost 0 bottleneck.
I'm getting very very close performance to a 4090 and yes I could OC my strix 4080 super and I could even raise the power lint to 420watts thanks to asus board power limit going so much higher then the normal tdp. But I'm good right now. Temps are insanely good noise is so good I can never really tell it's even running. So I'm happy af.
I didn't need to do any of this though for 4k gaming as I was getting 98% utilization of my gpu and it was performing as well of not slightly better then most benchmarks I've seen.
Only reason I bought the 1360pk was to be able to play 1080p shooter if I choose to which won't happen often but now I don't have to worry about being as cpu limited and or as bottlenecked.
Playing 4k with a rx 5700 that i got for 60 bucks atm lol (while my 7900gre is at rma)
what kinds of games do you play and what is your FPS like?
not me watching your 1440p and 4k compairson on a 1080p monitor
No you're not locked forever into $1500+ price bracket.. More like $1000 every 4 years since the 80 series card will be fine 4k performers going forward. The 4090 is only 30% faster than the 4080.
It's cool that gaming at 4K with high frame rates is possible. Though I could never spend more than 700 dollars on a graphics card. I'll stick with high frame rates at 1080p.
Honestly that is the way to go for 99% of people.
for the algo
If you’re playing competitive shooters it makes zero sense to play at 4k at 120-150fps when you can play at 1080p or 1440p at 480+fps and a very high refresh rate panel. I think 4k gaming should only really be used for immersive single player games to get the most of out it.
I don't disagree, my use case is for work and play. But 4k, if you are a competitive player, is def not the way to go.
solution: get a PS5
Lol the ps5' ain't nowhere near real 4K