I won one of these in .25-06 at a Whitetails Unlimited Deer Camp. I put a Leupold picatinny rail, Leupold scope rings, and a Riton 6-24x50 scope on it. Total tackdriver! Scope and mounting hardware make a huge difference. Don’t scrimp in this area. And generally speaking, rifle and scope packages come with cheap scopes.
Absolutely I always feel like I need to give it a chance but I have never gotten a combo that was on point like I set it up myself probably made more cheaply for the contract or something
I think you are right. I bought my daughter a REM 700 in .243 rifle/scope package. One morning while deer hunting, she complained the scope was hard to see through. I thought we was just complaining until I looked through it. Holy cow! She was right, the factory scope sucked in low-light (dawn and dusk). So I replaced the whole set up with Leupold rings and a Leupold VX-1 scope. Made a world of difference. She harvested her first deer with it. Thanks for your review. You did a great job!
Seems like hit or miss with the Patriot. You either get one that's a tack driver making groupings less than half MOA, or you get one that's 3 MOA or worse.
Yup I’m really on the fence about this one on Sunday the scope slipped again after only 40 rounds I’m going to replace the mounting rings I have a feeling they are cheep crap that can’t stand up to a 06
I'm in the garbage group. My 300 will flnot shoot 3 rounds in less than a 10 in group unless you wait 3-5 mins between shots. In a hunting scenario that is unacceptable.
My neighbo-r has one is 30-06 - it's far worse than 3 MOA. From what I saw, he'd be lucky to hit a milk jug in 3 shots at 100. He doesn't see it yet, blaming this or that, and I don't have the heart to tell him he has 30-06 Shotgun.
I read up on them before my purchase…bought the 6.5 CM in wood furniture for the low recoil as to not over torque the platform…..It wiiiiill keel!….it was out a bit with the optics..dialed it in @100yds……1/4 MOA…not bad..we will see how it holds up
Call Mossberg about the broken mag well, they should replace it, I have also heard that these Mossberg 30.06 and 308 with their 1:10 rifling prefer the heavier bullets, you might try 180 grain bullets also. Put some Loctite on all your screw threads.
Always with the loctite 414 and I will I had an idea about getting one and having one copied out of aluminum and also changing to wood furniture so I can improve the fit and function ( side note they mounted the scope really bad rings all the way out tight to where it flares out )
Great video and honest review. I have the same rifle in 270 I didn't know about the mag issue or scope rings so I will check mine. So far its dropped a 5 point elk and 5 point white tail where they stood at 150 yards. They shoot when they are dialed in.
the rear action screw is in front of the trigger guard? is it pillar bedded at least? shouldnt be putting pressure on the mag if it is...also i woulda threw those rings and mounts in the junk drawer as soon as i opened the box and bought some warne rings and pic rail
Hey there bud good comment and yes for the placement. No, it was not bedded well I wish TH-cam would’ve let me show the disassembly so I could’ve given a more clear description of it. I tried for three months and in the end I did end up selling that gun total junk no. But an absolute disgrace to 30-06
im glad you got a good one. the point of the video was supposed to support that, but it didn't I think it comes down to quality control on this one some are good i gather from the comments this one was a lemon
I agree with you 100%. I got the scope mounted right and everything. I actually just put up a follow up video where I got everything fixed and I’m sure that the scope I got is defective it’s not true to the 1/4 Moa clicks I eventually did get it sighted in but it did take extra ammo with one click equal in an inch and the next equals three I will be changing out the scope for actual hunting use
I had a Mossberg 30-06 that I had worked over, bedded and made lady friendly with a muzzle brake and sissy pad. I had a 3-9 Scope on it. All a woman will ever need out to 100+ yards.
Have a Patriot in 6.5PRC,will not eject spent brass, empty case just follows the bolt and I have to roll the rifle to make it fall out or grab it with my fingers. Replaced junk plastic stock with Boyds Spike camp.
To be 100% honest not really bud mine came with problems and the whole reason I haven’t done my follow up video for it yet as I have not found a solid solution for the price point I would go with a Ruger American hope this helps bud as soon as I get that rifle dial then I will make a follow up video to show you guys what I did and what it would take to get it as a good functioning Rifle
After posting this video and getting more comments from a lot of different people, I feel like the common trend is the larger, the caliber, the less accurate the Mossberg patriot platform might just want to stick to low recoil smaller rounds i’m sorry that you bought a lemon. I ended up selling mine to a gun shop and buying a new tree stand.
First bud the sniper rifle is just a term I think you’re looking for a precision rifle and if you’re looking at that price point, go for a Ruger American or spend 1000 bucks and get a sigsauer cross
Did you even consider a heavier bullet from a different manufacture would have a different point of impact or are you one of those guys who thinks all loads are going to shoot the same ?
And regardless of that at 100 yards, I think 250 was the max that I shot in that video with a 30-06 your only looking at a couple inches of difference not consistent with the results that I was saying but Mossberg is an American company so you go ahead and buy one and I honestly hope that you get a good one. I don’t wanna see anybody waste their money.
@@Upnorthoutfitters Yes, I see that and thanks however you see the issues with those mounts in this video, I always remove them and install tally mounts, they work and hardly ever fail, just wondering if these guns are tapped for a certain mount, like weatherby vanguard and mauser use rem 700 mounts.
@@rockylavigna5977 they are pre tapped on mine but I’m not sure will have to try those but never have so I can’t give ya a solid answer (also not sure why that said lol sorry not laughing at ya)
As far as I can tell from the comments, people seem to be having OK luck with the 308. Also, I can confirm with everybody else on here who has said that the scope is absolute garbage if you get one that is bedded properly a new scope is a must and then you would probably have a pretty good rifle
Hey, I have heard about the same for the 308 although I never had one in that caliber. I don’t want one and I would check out the Ruger American. They just came out with a new version of it this year the old version and the new version are great or a savage axis the only issue I have with those is the steel tends to rust easier than most so if you get one of those, just keep it oiled, I hope that helps
You either get a tack driver or a lemon. that is just how it is, My 06 patriot is pillar bedded and action bedded, better scope and rings, as well as a bedded scope base and lapped rings. With ANY loading, the first shot will be accurate enough to split a playing card, after an hour the next shot MIGHT hit close to the first. Cold bore is wicked accurate. try to shoot a group, enjoy 3 MOA with even handloads.. I have came to the conclusion that some of these the barrels/rifling is just shit. MY buddys on the other hand, also a 30-06, is a freakin tack driver with any ammo. My dude shoots 1/2 MOA with any damn softpoint and a cheap centerpoint scope. I was piseed the first time I seen him shoot 180 gr core loct's in a 1/2 inch 5 shot group at 100, was about to just toss mine in the trashcan at the range LOL He said "man, your face is pretty red". No shit brother, no shit LMAO. I really wanted to bend my rifle over my kneee, like breaking a stick in half🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
My face would’ve been red too and yeah after getting comments on this video it seems to be either an amazing budget rifle or like you said lemon I guess at the end of the day I just wish their quality control was better I appreciate the comment and everything bud.
I completely understand bud I’m sure you can tell in the video I really wanted to like it. I’m going to do an update after I fix the scope rings and hopefully I can help people by the rifle in the future with more confidence.
Some people at the range have cheep guns & cheep high powered scopes. They give me shit cause I use a 2x10x42. I get a kick out of watching there bareles dance around on 24 power. What a waste.
Sorry dude. The rifle is not a good one. I have one and it is very inconsistent. As far as the scope is concerned, it's junk. But I appreciate you taking the time to get out there and do videos.
Mine was disappointing until I got an MDT Oryx chassis for it. It’s a damn tack driver now. Tried bedding the factory stock, and that helped a lot but still wasn’t what it should have been. Now it’s amazing
They’re hit or miss unfortunately. They benefit GREATLY from aftermarket aluminum chassis though. Can even get away with a bedding job on the factory stock, but it still won’t be as good as an aftermarket chassis.
I've had 3 Mossberg rifles, 5.56, 270 and 308 none had acceptable accuracy. I have a nef ultra lite single shot that out shoots them & it's a cheap $150 rifle 🤷🏻♂️
i have a 200 dollar pawn shop special mossberg 100 atr. I put on a burris droptine 4.5x14-42. With using .270 core lokt psp 130 grain. I am hitting a 1 inch group at 100 yards with it. Its sad becuase it would be nice to get a new 270 patriot with a fluted and treaded barrel for 400 bucks.
@@lestud1456 even a blind hog finds an acorn every now and then lol glad yours is shooting good. I love everything about the ones I've had except accuracy
I have a 308 mossberg,everything is factory. Can drive nails at 100 yards. Have taken deer at 500 yards. Like every company. There's bad ones in the pile.
Yup the next one I wanna do for the channel is the new Ruger American I do think it’s important to have good information for budget hunting rifles for people however I agree with you 110% my hunting rifles are a little bit nicer than that
@@Upnorthoutfitters Savage axis not the axis 2 with a trigger job it will shoot .3 at a 100 and it is repeatable 10 5 shot groups all .3 to .4 for $278. Savage axis 2 in a Oryx chasse the same both 308 and both have been to a 1000 yards.
Obviously some are good it’s the probability of getting a bad one that’s the issue but good for you to find a way to be insulting but you should understand when your grandson picks up say a browning blr or another quality rifle he will wonder how he shot such a cheap pos
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I won one of these in .25-06 at a Whitetails Unlimited Deer Camp. I put a Leupold picatinny rail, Leupold scope rings, and a Riton 6-24x50 scope on it. Total tackdriver! Scope and mounting hardware make a huge difference. Don’t scrimp in this area. And generally speaking, rifle and scope packages come with cheap scopes.
Absolutely I always feel like I need to give it a chance but I have never gotten a combo that was on point like I set it up myself probably made more cheaply for the contract or something
I think you are right. I bought my daughter a REM 700 in .243 rifle/scope package. One morning while deer hunting, she complained the scope was hard to see through. I thought we was just complaining until I looked through it. Holy cow! She was right, the factory scope sucked in low-light (dawn and dusk). So I replaced the whole set up with Leupold rings and a Leupold VX-1 scope. Made a world of difference. She harvested her first deer with it.
Thanks for your review. You did a great job!
Mine works great in 308 awesome for swamp donkeys 9:44
I have 2 one chambered in 25-06 and a 6.5 creedmoore haven't shot either yet heard they were junk but I gotta give it a try myself to see
I always thought the Vortex Crossfire 2 was a good scope?
I have multiple patriots and I enjoy them never had any issues
Seems like hit or miss with the Patriot. You either get one that's a tack driver making groupings less than half MOA, or you get one that's 3 MOA or worse.
Yup I’m really on the fence about this one on Sunday the scope slipped again after only 40 rounds I’m going to replace the mounting rings I have a feeling they are cheep crap that can’t stand up to a 06
@@Upnorthoutfitters I have owned two and will never have another one that is not given to me. Even then I will have to think about it hard.
I'm in the garbage group. My 300 will flnot shoot 3 rounds in less than a 10 in group unless you wait 3-5 mins between shots. In a hunting scenario that is unacceptable.
My neighbo-r has one is 30-06 - it's far worse than 3 MOA. From what I saw, he'd be lucky to hit a milk jug in 3 shots at 100. He doesn't see it yet, blaming this or that, and I don't have the heart to tell him he has 30-06 Shotgun.
"Hit or miss" great play on words 😂
I read up on them before my purchase…bought the 6.5 CM in wood furniture for the low recoil as to not over torque the platform…..It wiiiiill keel!….it was out a bit with the optics..dialed it in @100yds……1/4 MOA…not bad..we will see how it holds up
Call Mossberg about the broken mag well, they should replace it, I have also heard that these Mossberg 30.06 and 308 with their 1:10 rifling prefer the heavier bullets, you might try 180 grain bullets also.
Put some Loctite on all your screw threads.
Always with the loctite 414 and I will I had an idea about getting one and having one copied out of aluminum and also changing to wood furniture so I can improve the fit and function ( side note they mounted the scope really bad rings all the way out tight to where it flares out )
Great video and honest review. I have the same rifle in 270 I didn't know about the mag issue or scope rings so I will check mine. So far its dropped a 5 point elk and 5 point white tail where they stood at 150 yards. They shoot when they are dialed in.
I’m glad that you are having good luck with yours I wish I could see the elk
I get sub 1 moa on my Patriot 308. Stock scope/rings kept slipping on me.
the rear action screw is in front of the trigger guard? is it pillar bedded at least? shouldnt be putting pressure on the mag if it is...also i woulda threw those rings and mounts in the junk drawer as soon as i opened the box and bought some warne rings and pic rail
Hey there bud good comment and yes for the placement. No, it was not bedded well I wish TH-cam would’ve let me show the disassembly so I could’ve given a more clear description of it. I tried for three months and in the end I did end up selling that gun total junk no. But an absolute disgrace to 30-06
I have the same one, locked in to quarter size targets at 1,000
im glad you got a good one. the point of the video was supposed to support that, but it didn't I think it comes down to quality control on this one some are good i gather from the comments this one was a lemon
Threadlock everything on a '06... I had a stupid hard time keeping any scope on my old 740 woodsmaster.
I agree with you 100%. I got the scope mounted right and everything. I actually just put up a follow up video where I got everything fixed and I’m sure that the scope I got is defective it’s not true to the 1/4 Moa clicks I eventually did get it sighted in but it did take extra ammo with one click equal in an inch and the next equals three I will be changing out the scope for actual hunting use
I had a Mossberg 30-06 that I had worked over, bedded and made lady friendly with a muzzle brake and sissy pad. I had a 3-9 Scope on it. All a woman will ever need out to 100+ yards.
Have a Patriot in 6.5PRC,will not eject spent brass, empty case just follows the bolt and I have to roll the rifle to make it fall out or grab it with my fingers.
Replaced junk plastic stock with Boyds Spike camp.
Did you contact Mossberg that sounds like something they should cover
No joke about the dirty part. If they can’t shoot dirty… why would you want one?
Cheap af rings surprised scope moved 😂 also vortex says not to have the rings with in 3/8ths of the zoom ring
Agreed due to the placement of the rail on this rifle there was nowhere else at the rings would sit
I am thinking of getting one of these for a buget hunting rifle would you recommend it?
To be 100% honest not really bud mine came with problems and the whole reason I haven’t done my follow up video for it yet as I have not found a solid solution for the price point I would go with a Ruger American hope this helps bud as soon as I get that rifle dial then I will make a follow up video to show you guys what I did and what it would take to get it as a good functioning Rifle
ID on the scope rings?
I have one in 25-06, it was the wood stock, replaced it with a Boyds still not accurate
After posting this video and getting more comments from a lot of different people, I feel like the common trend is the larger, the caliber, the less accurate the Mossberg patriot platform might just want to stick to low recoil smaller rounds i’m sorry that you bought a lemon. I ended up selling mine to a gun shop and buying a new tree stand.
I have all wood patriot is the bolt action supposed to be loose a bit first sniper you guys recommend these sniper for its price ?
First bud the sniper rifle is just a term I think you’re looking for a precision rifle and if you’re looking at that price point, go for a Ruger American or spend 1000 bucks and get a sigsauer cross
Scope is what's junk but solid gun. I own one.
Did you even consider a heavier bullet from a different manufacture would have a different point of impact or are you one of those guys who thinks all loads are going to shoot the same ?
Really…. I sighted it to each different round that I put through it. Did you not know that some guns shoot different bullets better than others?
And regardless of that at 100 yards, I think 250 was the max that I shot in that video with a 30-06 your only looking at a couple inches of difference not consistent with the results that I was saying but Mossberg is an American company so you go ahead and buy one and I honestly hope that you get a good one. I don’t wanna see anybody waste their money.
I have the 30/06 and taken a lot of deer with it. Im happy
Awesome it sucks they are iffy but very glad you got a good one good luck this season
What size rings does it take?
They were 1 inch rings for a standard mount specifically Vortexx hunters
What scope mounts fit these rifles?
Picatinny mounts came on mine
@@Upnorthoutfitters Yes, I see that and thanks however you see the issues with those mounts in this video, I always remove them and install tally mounts, they work and hardly ever fail, just wondering if these guns are tapped for a certain mount, like weatherby vanguard and mauser use rem 700 mounts.
@@rockylavigna5977 they are pre tapped on mine but I’m not sure will have to try those but never have so I can’t give ya a solid answer (also not sure why that said lol sorry not laughing at ya)
I’ve owned a couple and the wood stock patriots seem to be built differently and performs better.
That’s interesting. I had wondered about that if the bedding was better on the Woodstock.
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Is this similar with their patriot .308 rifle?
As far as I can tell from the comments, people seem to be having OK luck with the 308. Also, I can confirm with everybody else on here who has said that the scope is absolute garbage if you get one that is bedded properly a new scope is a must and then you would probably have a pretty good rifle
I found the same mag well problem. I shimmed with two tabs of duct tape.😊
I love it bud make it work right
What would be a better option and a similar price?
Hey, I have heard about the same for the 308 although I never had one in that caliber. I don’t want one and I would check out the Ruger American. They just came out with a new version of it this year the old version and the new version are great or a savage axis the only issue I have with those is the steel tends to rust easier than most so if you get one of those, just keep it oiled, I hope that helps
You either get a tack driver or a lemon. that is just how it is, My 06 patriot is pillar bedded and action bedded, better scope and rings, as well as a bedded scope base and lapped rings. With ANY loading, the first shot will be accurate enough to split a playing card, after an hour the next shot MIGHT hit close to the first. Cold bore is wicked accurate. try to shoot a group, enjoy 3 MOA with even handloads.. I have came to the conclusion that some of these the barrels/rifling is just shit. MY buddys on the other hand, also a 30-06, is a freakin tack driver with any ammo. My dude shoots 1/2 MOA with any damn softpoint and a cheap centerpoint scope. I was piseed the first time I seen him shoot 180 gr core loct's in a 1/2 inch 5 shot group at 100, was about to just toss mine in the trashcan at the range LOL He said "man, your face is pretty red". No shit brother, no shit LMAO. I really wanted to bend my rifle over my kneee, like breaking a stick in half🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
My face would’ve been red too and yeah after getting comments on this video it seems to be either an amazing budget rifle or like you said lemon I guess at the end of the day I just wish their quality control was better I appreciate the comment and everything bud.
I would have been pissed if I had to super glue a new gun. All that plastic is a little disappointing. Im a Mossberg fanboy, so that stings.
I completely understand bud I’m sure you can tell in the video I really wanted to like it. I’m going to do an update after I fix the scope rings and hopefully I can help people by the rifle in the future with more confidence.
My 6.5 PRC Mossberg Predator was a solid 3 MOA rifle..🤪
Solid lol
Can’t hear him and u dont know what target he is shooting at most of the time does not show how accurate it is at all. Other than what he is telling u
Well, go waste your money on one then
Some people at the range have cheep guns & cheep high powered scopes. They give me shit cause I use a 2x10x42. I get a kick out of watching there bareles dance around on 24 power. What a waste.
Oh bro that's awesome
Not the scope, we checked the action screws and barrel fitment was the problem!
Sorry dude. The rifle is not a good one. I have one and it is very inconsistent. As far as the scope is concerned, it's junk. But I appreciate you taking the time to get out there and do videos.
Thank you bud I wanted it to be good it I ended up getting rid of it and buying a new climbing stand. One of the best decisions I made last year!!!
Dam kiddo can u fix my dads old Springfield model 15 22 circa 1937😊
I don’t think I’m qualified lol that sounds like a situation for a GOOD smith
Most reviews of the Mossberg Patriot have been negative. Totally turned me off on them.
Mine was total garbage until I got about 50 rounds through it.
Mine was disappointing until I got an MDT Oryx chassis for it. It’s a damn tack driver now.
Tried bedding the factory stock, and that helped a lot but still wasn’t what it should have been. Now it’s amazing
I feel.like it's a people problem, some people just suck 😂😂😂😂😂 mine is a tack driver and I'm over 1k rounds in
From what I've seen from others, it is more like total JUNK!
Yes, it is not very good. It is actually the first gun I have sold back to the shop.
They’re hit or miss unfortunately.
They benefit GREATLY from aftermarket aluminum chassis though. Can even get away with a bedding job on the factory stock, but it still won’t be as good as an aftermarket chassis.
Mine is 6.5 CM and at 300 yards its a nail driver
What about gold junk?
I've had 3 Mossberg rifles, 5.56, 270 and 308 none had acceptable accuracy. I have a nef ultra lite single shot that out shoots them & it's a cheap $150 rifle 🤷🏻♂️
i have a 200 dollar pawn shop special mossberg 100 atr. I put on a burris droptine 4.5x14-42. With using .270 core lokt psp 130 grain. I am hitting a 1 inch group at 100 yards with it. Its sad becuase it would be nice to get a new 270 patriot with a fluted and treaded barrel for 400 bucks.
@@lestud1456 even a blind hog finds an acorn every now and then lol glad yours is shooting good. I love everything about the ones I've had except accuracy
@@Yelladog78 your right about the hog but it just figure if they got it right the first time you figure they cant screw up the second time.
I have a 308 mossberg,everything is factory. Can drive nails at 100 yards. Have taken deer at 500 yards. Like every company. There's bad ones in the pile.
Rule of thumb...you get what you pay for. Buy cheap, get cheaply made products. Buy quality and only cry once.
Yup the next one I wanna do for the channel is the new Ruger American I do think it’s important to have good information for budget hunting rifles for people however I agree with you 110% my hunting rifles are a little bit nicer than that
@@Upnorthoutfitters Savage axis not the axis 2 with a trigger job it will shoot .3 at a 100 and it is repeatable 10 5 shot groups all .3 to .4 for $278. Savage axis 2 in a Oryx chasse the same both 308 and both have been to a 1000 yards.
Thanks for showing everyone how not to shoot an AR
Ok…
Your rings are toy story type thing...
But for under 600 not bad enough to junk it
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Everyone has their opinion
A lot of bad reviews on this rifle, think twice before buying.
Get a better scope rifle is fine
Everyone’s entitled to their own opinion, if that’s all you can afford sure it will get the job done but it really is a piece of crap
Junk
Yeah, this rifle has since been sold. Don’t like selling my guns but when I truly hate it, I will get rid of it.
have one in 308 with a 56 burris scope My grandson shoots He calls it the sniper rifle. The gun is only as good as the shooter
Obviously some are good it’s the probability of getting a bad one that’s the issue but good for you to find a way to be insulting but you should understand when your grandson picks up say a browning blr or another quality rifle he will wonder how he shot such a cheap pos