When I started in studios in the mid 90s the nearfields in ever studio was either the Yamaha NS10a or NS10M or a pair of KRK rockits 8s and then the studio would have large "mains" mostly Bowers and Wilkins or some other high end brand.
There's a school of thought that monitor speakers aren't supposed to sound good like a hifi speaker but rather to sound neutral, like if it sounded good on this speaker it will be great on others.
Yea, I’ve heard that! I have a friend who’s a producer that loves trash speakers. He knows if it sounds good there, it’ll sound good anywhere. That said, I’m mixing guitar parts for TH-cam and at this stage, these are perfect for just that.
@@RobVespa science is replicable, no second opinion to facts and results. Social "science" such as economics may subject to different school of thoughts.
Finally comparison review on these two. I have had the KRK 8s for years for cross referencing w/ my main mixing monitors the Focal Shapes, but have been thinking about swapping KRKs w Hs8s.
I've been using the KRK Rokit 5 G3 for a few years and I found them too present on the low frequencies. For some it may be a plus but for those who play the guitar with digital plugins and have to listen to it through the monitors, it's not a great thing. They say that the G4s have less emphasized bass, but the Yamaha HS7s seem more present in the mid frequencies and flatter. In my opinion, for those who play the guitar, I believe that Yamahas are the most suitable choice. The KRKs perhaps perform better for general listening. I would like to know your opinion on this. Cheers from Italy!
I can see that. The Rokit 7s have an EQ that allows you to add or remove any frequencies you like/dislike. So while the HS7’s might be flatter, you get what you get. Having the ability to change the R7’s EQ means that I can mix for different scenarios and I agree, they’re more enjoyable for listening. Still, you can’t go wrong with either and this is a preferential move.
@@Gibsunday thanks for the quick reply, I didn't know your channel and from what I see you are also a guitarist. So, if I understand correctly, you are now using the Rokit 7s and no longer the HS7. However, I was thinking of making the opposite choice 😅. From what I've heard, the HS7s could work better as flat response speakers when used directly with digital plugins or modelers than the KRK Rokits. Then obviously, it depends on your needs. The Rokit G3s (the ones I have) perhaps have an even more prominent bass response than the G4s. Maybe switching to G4s and having the possibility to parameterize all the frequencies would be fine too. Hard choice! 😅
It's all a matter of taste and perspective but I think the KRKs have a bass spike I don't like. Adding bass is easy, add a sub if the monitors lack some, removing bass from a monitor is just not really possible ... The most important factor is "do the monitors sound good for your use? " For metal, rock and stoner ... the KRKs (I also own both) make my life more complicated because I always have to keep in mind that there is a bass spike that will bias the mixes towards highs overcompensation and under eqing bass. This is why I mix and master on the HS7 and validate on the KRKs.
You missed a big flaw of the rokit7’s. The hiss, once you hear you cannot unhear it, its so bad and for mixing and mastering purposes a big nono for me and lots of other hiss detectors out there. Sad because i also love the looks like you do. Now before y’all start commenting, i’m talking hiss without the xlr cables connected even.. adjusting the volume or high end doesnt matter.. its a big production flaw of the g4’s 7’s
I love them! After using the HS7’s for so long, I didn’t know how I’d feel. Now I can’t imagine going back to the HS7’s and I’d recommend the KRK’s to anyone!
My Yamahas make a Morse code beeping noise. But my JBL speakers are perfectly quiet. Yamahas make this noise without anything plugged in and volume to zero 😢
I disagree❤❤❤❤ HS8s are the ones always go for FLAT not sparkle....add sparkle in mastering😂😂😂😂 real talk...I produced TROOP STRANGE HOTEL AND HOT WATER...and many ICE CUBE JAMS i.e. TADOW
On the Yamaha Hs7 you have 2 input sources just wanted to point that out >.> and I love the rokits brand but man adding that screen was a bad idea because it’s just another part within another part to replace when it stops working :/ but overall they are both good studios monitors.
Yea, I forgot to mention 2 inputs. I think I’ve had them so long that I became too familiar with the features, if that makes sense. For the screen, it certainly creates an opportunity for failure, but that’s a great durability test in and of itself.
I'm a little surprised by the price on the KRKs. I don't have studio monitors myself but these seem like they might be a good place to start Edit: Oh, that's per monitor 😂 😭 I guess that's still a good price though for what it is
Mixing vocals on krks is way harder than on a HS. Evrey single time HS is clearer than krk. More clarity. If you mix on the HS it will sound good on the krks aswell Other way around you will hear you f”Ed up. 😅
When I started in studios in the mid 90s the nearfields in ever studio was either the Yamaha NS10a or NS10M or a pair of KRK rockits 8s and then the studio would have large "mains" mostly Bowers and Wilkins or some other high end brand.
Using the hs7s for two years now. Only good thing to say about it. Simple, solid and satisfied
How is the bass response? I've heard a lot that they don't have as much bass response.
@@noneother6262 enough, you don't need more that what it gives.. Trust me
@@noneother6262 KRK’s absolutely have more bass response - for better and worse.
Want flatter? Go HS7’s.
Want character? Go KRK’s.
There's no contest. For production, which is what these speakers are supposed to be about, it's Yamaha.
Yamaha's are awesome, but I'm still really enjoying these Rokits
Because internet told you so. KRK is good.
There's a school of thought that monitor speakers aren't supposed to sound good like a hifi speaker but rather to sound neutral, like if it sounded good on this speaker it will be great on others.
Yea, I’ve heard that! I have a friend who’s a producer that loves trash speakers. He knows if it sounds good there, it’ll sound good anywhere. That said, I’m mixing guitar parts for TH-cam and at this stage, these are perfect for just that.
How is this a school of thought as opposed to science? I don't understand.
@@RobVespa science is replicable, no second opinion to facts and results.
Social "science" such as economics may subject to different school of thoughts.
Finally comparison review on these two. I have had the KRK 8s for years for cross referencing w/ my main mixing monitors the Focal Shapes, but have been thinking about swapping KRKs w Hs8s.
Hs8's are a better monitor man! I have both! Rokit 7's and Hs8's
Krk for production/inspiration/enjoyment/fun.... Hs8's for mixing/critical listening and mastering
@paulie that’s not true. You sound like everyone online.
The Yamaha's brings out the mid and top frequencies very well, while the Rokits have a more a more pronounced low end.
I've been using the KRK Rokit 5 G3 for a few years and I found them too present on the low frequencies. For some it may be a plus but for those who play the guitar with digital plugins and have to listen to it through the monitors, it's not a great thing. They say that the G4s have less emphasized bass, but the Yamaha HS7s seem more present in the mid frequencies and flatter. In my opinion, for those who play the guitar, I believe that Yamahas are the most suitable choice. The KRKs perhaps perform better for general listening. I would like to know your opinion on this. Cheers from Italy!
I can see that. The Rokit 7s have an EQ that allows you to add or remove any frequencies you like/dislike. So while the HS7’s might be flatter, you get what you get.
Having the ability to change the R7’s EQ means that I can mix for different scenarios and I agree, they’re more enjoyable for listening.
Still, you can’t go wrong with either and this is a preferential move.
@@Gibsunday thanks for the quick reply, I didn't know your channel and from what I see you are also a guitarist. So, if I understand correctly, you are now using the Rokit 7s and no longer the HS7. However, I was thinking of making the opposite choice 😅. From what I've heard, the HS7s could work better as flat response speakers when used directly with digital plugins or modelers than the KRK Rokits. Then obviously, it depends on your needs. The Rokit G3s (the ones I have) perhaps have an even more prominent bass response than the G4s. Maybe switching to G4s and having the possibility to parameterize all the frequencies would be fine too. Hard choice! 😅
It's all a matter of taste and perspective but I think the KRKs have a bass spike I don't like. Adding bass is easy, add a sub if the monitors lack some, removing bass from a monitor is just not really possible ... The most important factor is "do the monitors sound good for your use? " For metal, rock and stoner ... the KRKs (I also own both) make my life more complicated because I always have to keep in mind that there is a bass spike that will bias the mixes towards highs overcompensation and under eqing bass. This is why I mix and master on the HS7 and validate on the KRKs.
sometimes people dont have the space or dont wanna add a sub so its situational
You missed a big flaw of the rokit7’s. The hiss, once you hear you cannot unhear it, its so bad and for mixing and mastering purposes a big nono for me and lots of other hiss detectors out there. Sad because i also love the looks like you do. Now before y’all start commenting, i’m talking hiss without the xlr cables connected even.. adjusting the volume or high end doesnt matter.. its a big production flaw of the g4’s 7’s
Class D amplification
You ruined it for me mate…
FYI, Gibson owns KRK.
Wow they sounded exactly like my crappy laptop speakers. I wonder why.
Maybe you are listening in your crappy laptop😂
HS 7 for me with HS 8S sub.
Them krk sound so wrong that’s helped me I’m getting the hs7
Glad to be of service 🫡
Yeah agreed to much bass Yamaha is more flat.. Well it's a monitor speakers it's supposed to be as flat as possible..
How do you like them? I'm thinking about getting those KRKs for mixing and guitar playing purposes.
I love them! After using the HS7’s for so long, I didn’t know how I’d feel. Now I can’t imagine going back to the HS7’s and I’d recommend the KRK’s to anyone!
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@@GibsundayI had the 5’s then got the 7’s. Now I stand up to mix 😂
@@Gibsundaymy B selection is Yamaha MSP3A’s so I’m good to go
What about Fluid FX80 ?
I'm new sub ❤️
My Yamahas make a Morse code beeping noise. But my JBL speakers are perfectly quiet. Yamahas make this noise without anything plugged in and volume to zero 😢
Are you using XLR’s or TRS cables to your interface?
i use HS7 sinds 6 years ..... zero clic, zero bip, zero hiss sound. Check your cables. :)
I disagree❤❤❤❤ HS8s are the ones always go for FLAT not sparkle....add sparkle in mastering😂😂😂😂 real talk...I produced TROOP STRANGE HOTEL AND HOT WATER...and many ICE CUBE JAMS i.e. TADOW
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Cant comparis....hs7 10 years old and krk rokit 7 new 😂 and even now hs7 wins..... the digital screen isnt a plus for me
HS7 any time
Still got mad love for the HS7’s
On the Yamaha Hs7 you have 2 input sources just wanted to point that out >.> and I love the rokits brand but man adding that screen was a bad idea because it’s just another part within another part to replace when it stops working :/ but overall they are both good studios monitors.
Yea, I forgot to mention 2 inputs. I think I’ve had them so long that I became too familiar with the features, if that makes sense.
For the screen, it certainly creates an opportunity for failure, but that’s a great durability test in and of itself.
The krk is to boomy in comparision with the real sound
WE'RE AMERICANS SO WE LIKE STUFF!
HS8s are the way forward
Yamaha hs 7 slightly better in my opinion.
These krks have so much hiss..it's unbearable and unfixable. Gutted as they sound incredible. Over to Kali audio I go.
The KRK has no heat sink. Amp must junk
so i cant just leave it on?
I'm a little surprised by the price on the KRKs. I don't have studio monitors myself but these seem like they might be a good place to start
Edit: Oh, that's per monitor 😂 😭 I guess that's still a good price though for what it is
Mixing vocals on krks is way harder than on a HS.
Evrey single time HS is clearer than krk. More clarity.
If you mix on the HS it will sound good on the krks aswell
Other way around you will hear you f”Ed up.
😅
Yamaha is like the poor man's genelec.
both are poor.
What do u recommend
@@jamesmettle2 crappy laptop speaker i recomend