The Spider-Man 3 Game doesn’t make any sense (Retrospective)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 มิ.ย. 2022
- It has been 15 years since the release of the Spider-Man 3 movie and the movie licensed video game. These both ended up with mixed reviews, but the lack of direction is the overall problem. We take a retrospective look at how this Spider-Man game messed up even more than the movie.
The Spider-Man 3 Game doesn’t make any sense (Retrospective)
Full playthrough of Spider-Man 3 (2007) Game : • Spider-Man 3 (2007)
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this game was lit af when i was a kid
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Still lit
Was? It still is. A lot of people want to complain about the Spider-Man 3 PS3/Xbox 360/PC web swinging, saying it's bad, but try to compare Marvel's Avengers Spider-Man's web swinging to the Spider-Man 3 game web swinging.
There is no comparison, you just can't compare the two, the Spider-Man 3 game's web swinging is great, if you actually know how to properly use, and utilize it to the fullest. The speed and momentum you can gain is amazing, it feels so surreal.
You gain such a huge newfound appreciation for it, when you actually unlock all of the web swinging speed upgrades, and know what you're doing with it.
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got very fond memories of this game
I have a soft spot for this game since it was the first HD Spider-Man game and I enjoyed seeing Lizard And Kingpin since they weren't In the films or previous games.
I can understand that for sure
Well actually Lizard was in the Spider-Man 2 game but he was in the N-Gage version and the GBA version
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Wrong the earlier games on pc WERE HD
It's weird to complain about too much content in a game, when the newest games have so few villains and repeatable content.
The way Harry hit the wall at 2:50. No wonder he was in the hospital for the whole game 😂
His spine detonated on impact
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Bro really thought he'd make it to Hogwarts with that one xD
@@deathstalkerx4415😂😂😂😂
Fun fact
The Spider-Man 3 game was based on an earlier draft of the movie. Eddie and Sandman meeting at the park was an actual scene in the film that was cut, also Venom being impaled too was in an early scene. Treyarch didn't have access to the final script since Sony was so secretive with it. With Spider-Man 1 and 2 they were lucky because not much from the earlier scripts changed.
Black Cat from Spider-Man 2 would've returned with her storyline continuing. Her model was even ready and her files can be found in the PC version but the reason for her being cut is unknown. If I had to guess, it was probably due to the game already being crammed
Also Spider-Man 3's game issues already grew worse when Spider-Man 2 devs Tomo Morowaki and Jamie Fristom left. These two guys were the lead programmers of Spider-Man 1 & 2 and Fristrom was the pioneer of that game's swinging. Their new ideas were to incorporate fully stealth sequences and missions as well as a totally revamped combat system more akin to later games like TASM 1 and 2, SMPS4 and Arkham games but issues with higher ups led to them leaving as well as their ideas being cut out. To make matters worse, Activision wanted Treyarch to focus on the next mainline CoD titles so the devs were basically being overworked
Damn, timing really screwed this game over. Imagine how much better it could have been if all of these things didn't go wrong.
Also the PS2 and PSP versions have additional content like Morbius and Shriek, very few QuickTime events, an exclusive side mission system where you have to help the police reduce the amount of gangs in the city, being able to change suits at will(though it becomes harder to switch between black and red in the later half of the story due to it corrupting him), an actual skill tree which you can upgrade and you get to unlock the black suit after you gather a certain amount of collectibles
It also has better conclusions, Mad Bomber is an actual boss fight and the conclusion had him arrested, same with Kraven and the Shriek boss fight too has her using Peter's guilt against him, Harry actually dies due to Venom pulling him whilst he throws a pumpkin bomb at Sandman. Speaking of Sandman you fight him more than once in this version, the first time during the subway, second time at the construction site in his human form where he creates a mini tornado and you as Spidey have to throw objects at him, the last fight is you teaming up with Harry to throw bombs at him. The team-up aspect is handled better here since the first Venom fight, Harry and Spidey have a special tag team attack and with giant Sandman you have to collect and throw Harry's bombs in timek
I played the wrong version man 😂😂
@@LoneWolfXP Yeah, the hype for this game was very high since people wanted to see how Treyarch would top Spider Man 2 mechanics as well as it being at the time a next gen title
@@LoneWolfXP The combat is worse in the PS2 and PSP versions though. The only positives are the skill tree, a much more functional dodge system which looks like a beta version of the "perfect dodge" in SMPS4 and a web strike of sorts. The vast combos in the PS3 version are non existent
regarding the out-of-sequence movie-related storyline: i know that the game was developed to release along side the movie, but was given SUPER little direction regarding story. key plot points were handed over to help with writing the game, but not much else. the new tech and scope of the game made it impossible to direct a movie and videogame at the same time, so the stories share nothing more than a basic skeletal structure. everything else is completely different.
Key points from the movie felt like they were there just to sell it as tie in game. This game had more like multiple smaller stories rather than one story. It felt like developers wanted to do their own game but were forced to put movie scenes there cause it is tie in.
I'm mostly just satisfied to hear someone else found the stealth missions in Spider-Man 1 to be broken af. That right there is a core memory for me.
Yeah, they were disrespectful with those 😂
Can we talk about how ridiculously fast the Quick Time Events were ??? Jesus Christ the Subway Sandman battle , Harry v Sandman and Venom impaling are the ones that I had to retry THE MOST 😡😡I used to ask my big brother to do if for me 😂
Facts
The only qte’s i had a problem with was the harry ones vs sandman, that was bs
I had fun with those. Well I have good reflexes
I was so frustrated about the Harry and sandman one cause you fail that a few times and you have to redo the whole fight and I was like wtf!
Man I was 6 years old when I got this game for Christmas, cut me some slack 🤣🤣
this game had the most random stories like everyone in the office had an idea they wanted to add in and it became a jumbo mess that wasn't properly reviewed.
as a kid i didn't really think to much about it until i was older😂
They threw everything in the pot and mixed that thang 😂
I remember playing the PS2 version of this game and Morbius and Shriek were also added in as bosses, but there was no Scorpion or Rhino
i thought i was going crazy because i didn’t remember a lot of these things
Kinda bugged the hell out of me since they built Scorpion up to return in the first one
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The soundtrack of this game is so crazy. Like some of it belonged in the actual film.
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I always thought it was a really good game to be honest. It captured the essence of Spider Man but more importantly the essence of Tobey’s version of Peter Parker well but I only played it on PS2
Totally agree with you
5:44 I legit started crying from laughter when I watched this part; it's funny how many stupid plotholes you miss when you're 10 and hyped about getting the new ps3 along with your favorite superhero movie game 🤣 good times, this was a great watch subbed!
Glad you enjoyed 🔥
The OG Spiderman games were so fun!
Facts
Truth.
Kinda weird that scorpion is in this game but it’s not the same scorpion from the first movie tie in game. Which is weird because the first two movie games had shared continuity via Shocker.
Can you please tell me buddy. How to unlock black suit ?
My uncle gifted me Spiderman 3 Collectors Edition for PS3, i fell in love with this game and the movie. May my uncle rest in peace knowing i loved his gifts.
RIP 🙏🏽
This video went over a missed childhood experience for me. I played the first two, but by the time the third came out, I was at an age where I was into new things temporarily!
What’s funny about Harry’s death at the end of the game is that if I remember correctly the ps2 version actually showed his death by him getting pulled into sandman as he exploded. Would’ve expected the ps2 version to be the one that didn’t show his death fully
Idk which version is worse, X360/PS3 where he just disappear or PS2 where he sacrificed himself only for Peter to just say quietly "Harry..."
At least in the psp version, Harry wakes up in the hospital instead of home, he actually tells Peter that he realized his dad was insane, and his death is a little more confirmed not much better but a little more certain at least.
I think it was like that on Wii too I could be wrong tho
I remember renting this game at Blockbuster so I could beat it as fast as possible lol. I think I played it on PS2 though, so not 360 or PS3
Blockbuster and Gamefly used to be so clutch 🔥😂
When I was a kid I can’t even lie this game was fun asf 💯🔥
The worst boss fight imo was with the dragon's tail leader in the room with all the statues
nah fr though and the candy leader
@@kalenwhite7497 yeah true, maybe it's the fact that they just spam their henchmen at you. You get bounced around like a bouncy ball as soon as you make one error. That's what happened to me tho
i remember seeing this for sale online when i was at an internet cafe in 2007. i just had a random flashback and decided to search for it on youtube today
I genuinely loved this retrospective and it had me cracking up too 😂
Glad you enjoyed it 🔥
you could not be more wrong. This was by far my favorite spiderman video game, the music, sound effects, the graphics of Spiderman himself was phenomenal, the villains, the storyline and missions, everything. So good.
This was the first Spider-man game I ever played when I was a kid. So it holds a special place in my heart
I like at 7:35 where you can still see harry chiiling just off screen
It's also worth mentioning that Morbius and Shriek appear in the PS2 version.
I morbed my pants after hearing that
Where for some reason she's Morbius's wife instead of Carnage's girlfriend.
Scarily prescient
@@Xehanort10 she is also covered in her OWN black suit and is left to die in connors lab after you beat her because the story never explains what happened after words (that i know of)
Shrek
I remember playing the ps2 version and feeling like I'm missing out on stuff. This makesenss
Wait really? Bc I remember it almost having the same vibe as this version (PS3). I never even knew they had scorpion and other differences in this version. What made you feel like something was missing? (If I may ask)
Lmao Kraven and Lizard didn’t merge together Kraven Girl literally amplified the Lizard into a giant Kaju one was my favourite section honestly
Thank you for being voice of my childhood complains. There were no internet to discuss things these times.
Maaan that spider man stealth mission had me down bad for years. I played the game when it first came out and didn beat that mission til at least like 2011. Sneaking around and tryna get those doors unlocked with the code was so hard for me to do I had to take a break until I finally beat that mission then I beat the game.
I loved playing it, especially playing as goblin with the sixaxis controller at the time!
The bicycle kick was in SM2. You just had to be in spider reflex mode. The combos in that mode to fucking insane.
I played this like 10 times from start to finish when I was a kid on Xbox 360. Don’t know why I loved it so much
Good point that having a ton of villains with their own stories can definitely dilute the main villain's story, as also seen in Insomniac's Marvel Spider-Man on PS4, which had a lot of boss villain storylines too. Marvel Spider-Man Miles Morales seems to be more focused with the story. For video games, lots of bosses are understandable for the gameplay first, though not great for the story necessarily.
Love the scale of the city and how many interiors there are. Much as I love insomniacs spidey, I never really feel like I’m free falling from the stratosphere in that game when I jump off the Empire State Building lol
8:34 the girl in the background randomly stops her walking cycle LOL
That Kraven Boss fight always haunted me. Could never beat him until years later
I defeated him on the first try. Ur comment makes me feel very skilled lol
It's been mentioned a few times in the comments, but I have the urge to say that too:
The game was rushed as hell to meet deadlines, and it really shows in the gameplay and overall structure of the game.
I've never confirmed this, but it's very likely that the team weren't given the script until late into development (and as some have mentioned, they were basing the story bits off early drafts of the script), so they were making their own stories until then and the movie plot was shoe-horned into the game.
Also, Kraven didn't fuse with the Lizard. Calypso (Kraven's partner) put a spell on Connors so she and Kraven could escape.
Overall, I'm aware of the game's faults, but I like it despite them. And I actually like the non-linear structure of the missions, that's what makes the game feel like open world. It's a shame it hasn't been done again since.
The game took 3 years to develop lmao. Treyarch reused the NGL engine for all their open world Spider-Man games(Spider-Man 2 up to Web of Shadows), since it was open world they spent a bulk of the development fleshing it out and since they didn't have most of the movie script by then they had to rely on original content and put in the movie content later on
Fun glitch i experienced in this game multiple playthroughs, if you do the story up to the black suit, without doing a bugle mission, the game crashes constantly when you do a bugle mission with the suit, making you unable to progress. Making you restart the game.
4:00 McDonald's fed 💀💀💀.
😂😂😂
Just ran down on em in. The subway and didn't say shit 🤣🤣🤣🤣☠️🥵
I remember this was the first ever game i played on my ps3 when i was 7 or 8 and i found it so hard. I couldnt beat the game because on one of the first levels after you get the black suit and you fight kraven you had to spam x to lift a pilar which was blocking you and 7 year old me didnt have the strength to do it. I got past it once and died straight after and had to go back and do it again. Brought me to tears and never played it again.
from what I understand, they had plans to do the fight scene in harrys house and many other moments but they really pushed for having james franco, topher grace, tobey maguire and the dude who played sand man all at different times and could only have a few sessions with them too, so my best guess is filling in all the blanks from the movie just wasnt in their abilities
I loved Spider-Man 3 on the ps3 it was the first Spider-Man game I had and it was my favourite Spider-Man film too
This was one of the first 5 games I owned on my own Xbox 360 when I was around 7 or 8 so I have a soft spot for it and enjoyed when I was young, but I do realise it has flaws.
I feel that
Dude same, it was the third 360 game I bought. The first was Viva Piñata and the second was Cabela’s African Safari for some reason.
One of my favorite Spidey games.
Same
Great video 👍🏼🔥 you sound like Jamari lol
The story is based from what I can tell very loosely on early drafts of the movie. Someone from Sony probably sent Treyarch a 10 bullet list for plot points to include because you have to remember the consoles were brand new at the time of the movie being filmed, and the game being developed
about the fight with sandman
i found a glitch which makes it super easy to kill him
just go up high as much as possible
and the press hold A or D to start to spin and at the same time start to throw bombs
when you are moving in a circle way, sandman's attacks doesn't hit you!
I remember playing this as a kid and the apocalypse gang boss fight was so hard I remember raging so much, felt like i was playing my first dark souls game at 9 lol
5:10 Pause 😂😂😂
Freak monster 😂😂
Venom is Big It's so great they didn't change the alien suit On Peter😂
Main Story nit picks aside
What I hated were Mary Jane swing missions and the only boss fight I hated was Scorpion, enjoy the chase
It's the fight at bridge that was annoying.
11:03 The bicycle kick was actually in 2 as well, fun fact!
I remember when i first got Spider-Man 3 for PS3. I was so amazed by how 'real' it looked at the time 😂
I could be wrong but wasn’t there a vampire that you had to fight as well while doing investigations on strange things
ps2 Mobius XD
Got the game on eBay, and it came with an extra bonus disk. Any clue what's on there? The game CD is super clean, but the bonus disk is a bit scratched and has some kinda stain on there so I'm scared to put it in my ps3.
Lizard vs black suit was the best part- glad it’s coming back this year
My biggest problem with the game play was that they put web swing and jump on the same button. Most of those races around town require both and you didn't know which would happen when you hit the button.
Kingpin surprised the heck out of me in this game. Peak human or not, ain’t no way this man should be ragdolling Spider Man that flawlessly especially with the symbiote on.
I only played the PS2 version so I didn’t know these villains were in the game.
Grew up playing the PS2 version of the game and I still loved it. I didn’t play the “next-gen” version until I was much older when I finally got an Xbox 360
Venom's character model in this game is so fucking funny to look at. What a build.
I loved this game. But im pretty sure the only levels i remember ever doing os the first fire escape and the lizard one.
I still have the game and my ps3 so i might go on it, perhaps in like 2 decades or something
Me with Spider-Man 2😂 i only remember getting to the Mysterio fake fight in the convenience store, then I just stopped progressing and kept beating people up😂 The OG Spiderman games had that effect, you get lost in the sauce🤣🤣💯
the only thing i remember from a kid was swinging around the city
I playey and loved the PS2 Version. Hunting down and fighting The Lizard, Shriek and Morbius and The H-Bomber. I still remember how hard my Heart was pounding while fighting the Big Lizard. Still my favourite Boss
Whoa, whoa, whoa… why do you have to axe?! There’s no need for such violence! 😱
To be honest, I did like the game version of how sandman and venom met
I loved the fact that there were so many enemies. They should do the same in the modern spiderman games
Great video dawg. This game is hilarious 😂
Thanks bro
There were seriously motion controls in the PS3 version?
I grew up with the 360 version, I didn't even know the PS3 version had the ability to replicate motion controls lmfao
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I only played the PS2 version so yeah some of these villains weren’t in the version I played.
My favorite line from this game is when the thugs say “whatchu doing here pencil neck” 😂
I think what might have happened was the game developers developed the game for the PS2 and then the PS3 was released and the developers had a short time frame to prepare for the PS3 version (which is probably why graffics on the PS3 version is barely passable as PS2 look.
Kingpin is not supposed to be that strong Jesus Christ! The first time I faught him he flawlessed me.😂😂
The new goblin was actually DLC at one point for this game on PS3 and Xbox 360. Totally pointless, because there's literally no missions for him.
You forgot to mention the part where Spiderman randomly figures out Eddie is Venom
This game slaps, I remember enjoying the soundtrack you used for the video when I was a kid 😂
W soundtrack
definitely doesn't help that this game was a follow-up to the Spider-Man 2 movie game which - up until insomniac's Spider-Man in 2018 - was considered to be the best Spider-Man game. It had almost impossible shoes to fill. it's a shame too, because while even the third movie was considered overbloated and poorly paced, the game could really fleshed out the villains and gave them more screen time and fuller arcs; I definitely agree with what you said about too many villains in the game. There was already too many villains by movie standards, but three would have been fine if they made the most of the game's time.
I played and finished this game years ago. One of my favorite spiderman games, the boss battles and look of the game is good. My favorite bosses were venom, king pin and kraven
I remember that scorpion mission it’s the last thing I remember about that game from when I played it
Harry just spawned back at his house after he got clotheslined with a brand new memory loss.
Fat Spiderman was iconic 😂😂
Harry popping out of nowhere in the end kinda had me thinking he accepted Peter is a hero, and his father was a villain. Because Peter was his friend despite of everything. Pretty much my head canon.
My heart would race when I had to go in the sewers to confront lizard the first time.
4:22 Is that Spider-Man in the back ground? What is that?
Bro just put his arm around my shoulder and took me BACK. This was a ton of fun to watch man thank you. The second game, with that freedom to just swing around NYC, was one of the greatest feeling games of all time.
And now we are spoiled with Insomniac's greatness 😭
@@LoneWolfXP 🙏🏼 and it’s so sick that we get to have the insomniac guys giving us an epic Peter and Miles story, and then the Spiderverse movies giving us one focusing on Miles with Peter kind of in there to help out… It is a great time to be a fan.
I could never get pass the fake ass Harley Quinn 🤣🤦🏾♂️
Kinda late but New Goblin
There is actually an option to turn off the motion controls for regular ones in the options menu
Idk why the heck the Motions controls are the default control scheme for him
Oh thank god I hate motions controls so much
Motion controls were the new big thing at the time, so they probably thought people would want to play with them
I do think that the arsenic candy, apocalypse, dragon tail, dewolf mission, and the mad bomber should probably be the side mission and have kingpin have a side mission boss battle while scorpion, lizard and kraven, venom, sandman, and the new goblin would be the main story.
What's your take on the plaintiff: a
College dropout is..... At a casino school level, above their paygrade. Goodbye.
For some reason, after fighting sandman, the game just crashed. Never got to finish it.
RIP
This game was peak I tried finding other ways to play it after my 360 broke but never could 😢
Venom’s death seems to be a reference to Doppelgänger’s death from the Infinity War comic for some people?
I want to ask. Does Scorpion, Cravin or Rhyno ever mention their privoes encounters with Spider-Man?
omg this game made me rage as a kid especially at the sandman mission with harry
It kinda looked like Peter just did a black flip jump right into Harry’s hands he could’ve avoided easily
I remember my game crashing during the lizards mission
our imagination CARRIED this game as a kid 😂