@@amengemaa oh yes there is awakening, some say it is the end of the world,,,,,it is the end of religious bondage. There is no coming of the Lord, his spirit never left, they claim he works wonders in their lives but how, if he left 2 millenniums ago. Nobody leaves or come back , our spirits have always been here, we incarnate and take new bodies millions of times to experience being human until we become ascended masters like Yeshua Ben Joseph (Jesus).
@@amengemaa yes we all have past lives and we will continue to reincarnate till we master this class ( Earth Life). Resurrection is reincarnation, difference is you return to the same body not a new hence you still die ( Lazarus was resurrected but he later died like all beings). Jesus also reincarnated into his old body 🙏🙏
I'm also an ex traditional healer.. though I didn't use human parts,that's extreme 😮God doesn't want us to consult with the dead n it's written in the bible,I ignored dat for years n now I'm glad dat I'm a born again..Glory to Lord Jesus Christ ❤
I love the Lord very much n I was very sick n they will tell me dat da answer is to be initiated n I knew da bible tells us not to consult with the dead..
NECROMANCY, people are talking to demons/evil spirits that knows what your family members did, what kind of perfumes they used, words and phrases. ect. not dead ancestors.
I can see that some of us are not happy about this they would prefer not to hear that but remember just because you suppress the truth it doesn't change the fact
White people are doing the same, the white western dignitaries, politicians go to Congo for power & other means. Human trafficking in black people is so high in Europe and USA, because they use the body parts for the same thing black people are doing with white body parts. This whole world is so backwards Watch this video- "DISTURBING FOOTAGE - Peter Nygard bargaining with black women to sell their stem cells"
These are eye-opening and horific truths about African spirituality. Where's Bishop Maponga, Dr. Motsekga and other followers of that religion & kingdom? Thank you so much my brother for allowing the Lord to use you. The Lord bless you.
O deus da sua bíblia se importa com a aparência? A farsa de Jeová Muitos cristãos dizem que este deus não se importa com a aparência das pessoas mas sim com o seu coração. Será verdade isso? É o que vamos analisar. De acordo com o livro de 1 Samuel 16: 6-7, o próprio deus da bíblia disse que ele vê o coração da pessoas e não a aparência, como podemos ver em: 1 Samuel 16: 6 E sucedeu que, entrando eles, viu a Eliabe, e disse: Certamente está perante o SENHOR o seu ungido. 7 Porém o SENHOR disse a Samuel: Não atentes para a sua aparência, nem para a grandeza da sua estatura, porque o tenho rejeitado; porque o SENHOR não vê como vê o homem, pois o homem vê o que está diante dos olhos, porém o SENHOR olha para o coração. De acordo com o texto acima percebemos que este deus não se importa com a aparência mas sim com o bom coração, bom comportamento, etc…. Mas surge uma grave contradição. Sabe porque? Pois noutros textos bíblicos o deus da bíblia mostra importar-se com a aparência, como podemos ver em: Levítico 21: 16 Falou mais o SENHOR a Moisés, dizendo: 17 Fala a Arão, dizendo: Ninguém da tua descendência, nas suas gerações, em que houver algum defeito, se chegará a oferecer o pão do seu Deus. Como assim? Porque é que os descendentes do Arão que tinham algum defeito físico não podiam oferecer pão? Afinal este deus não disse que não se importava com a aparência mas sim o coração? Como é que agora faz isso com os deficientes físicos? Perceba que o deus da bíblia odeia os deficientes físicos e os trata mal , pois se não os odiasse permitiria com que eles oferecessem o pão a ele (deus). Veja o outro versículo: 18 Pois nenhum homem em quem houver alguma deformidade se chegará; como homem cego, ou coxo, ou de nariz chato, ou de membros demasiadamente compridos. 20 Ou corcunda, ou anão, ou que tiver defeito no olho, ou sarna, ou impigem, ou que tiver testículo mutilado. Percebeu que o deus da bíblia não gosta de pessoas com deficiência física? Em 1 Samuel 16: 6-7 deus diz que não se importa com a aparência entretanto em levítico exclui as pessoas por serem defeituosas fisicamente, logo isto é uma contradição. Na verdade foi o homem que inventou este deus da bíblia, e sendo muito influenciado pela visão (coisas bonitas) é comum escolher pessoas bonitas e sem nenhuma deficiência física. O deus da bíblia é uma burla, jesus é uma burla, espírito santo é burla. Autor: Kano Afri, aquele que te desperta, já amanheceu.
If you're African, give yourself time and do thourogh research about who you are and not what white people say you are. Laziness and small knowledge is very dangerous 💔
Your over generalisation is what’s discrediting your views - He entered wrong gates & acquired very wrong information. Every group of people have indigenous systems they still use to this day and they possess both good and bad depending on the person (God vs Satan). Wake up and apply yourself!!
@@B4Africa most initiation schools are open to researchers - my recommendation is that you invest time to go to some of these schools and do first hand research. We come from many universes of spirituality - A sangoma is different to ngaka but they have similarities - I give you the nguni way of awakening a spirit vs the northern Sotho way. Each sub group has its little unique way of reaching the higher source. If you are familiar with khundalini from Hinduism you’ll grasp African spirituality a bit faster. Good vs bad has more to do with the individual but the art of healing itself is a branch of Gods creation as it stems from the elements of creation where good is more inclined to God & bad more inclined to Satan (In short instead of thinking of African spirituality as bad think of the polarity of life, the bible teaches about God but Satan somehow always emerges so African spirituality teaches about healing and indigenous systems but evil intent always finds its way - THAT IS LIFE).
Seems you're the one who's fast asleep and the devil is using it against you. You're all into w-i-t-c-h-c-r-a-f-t qnd divination, point blank period. There's nothing good about it.
Its true my brother, we were all deceived that if we speak about these secrets we will be mad. We were taught how to scream and speak as if its real . And the issue of body parts its true. I thank God for my SALVATION
@@B4Africa just like there are bad or fake pastors and churches my brother. I also think it's common sense that there are good people and bad people. Really simple. You should try having a conversation with a real spiritual healer.
Yep. Yet they say African spirituality is beautiful. And another thing I noticed is that it thrives on secrets and fear. Most are scared to leave because they’re scared they’ll either go crazy or die. Lord have mercy and compassion on us.
O deus da sua bíblia se importa com a aparência? A farsa de Jeová Muitos cristãos dizem que este deus não se importa com a aparência das pessoas mas sim com o seu coração. Será verdade isso? É o que vamos analisar. De acordo com o livro de 1 Samuel 16: 6-7, o próprio deus da bíblia disse que ele vê o coração da pessoas e não a aparência, como podemos ver em: 1 Samuel 16: 6 E sucedeu que, entrando eles, viu a Eliabe, e disse: Certamente está perante o SENHOR o seu ungido. 7 Porém o SENHOR disse a Samuel: Não atentes para a sua aparência, nem para a grandeza da sua estatura, porque o tenho rejeitado; porque o SENHOR não vê como vê o homem, pois o homem vê o que está diante dos olhos, porém o SENHOR olha para o coração. De acordo com o texto acima percebemos que este deus não se importa com a aparência mas sim com o bom coração, bom comportamento, etc…. Mas surge uma grave contradição. Sabe porque? Pois noutros textos bíblicos o deus da bíblia mostra importar-se com a aparência, como podemos ver em: Levítico 21: 16 Falou mais o SENHOR a Moisés, dizendo: 17 Fala a Arão, dizendo: Ninguém da tua descendência, nas suas gerações, em que houver algum defeito, se chegará a oferecer o pão do seu Deus. Como assim? Porque é que os descendentes do Arão que tinham algum defeito físico não podiam oferecer pão? Afinal este deus não disse que não se importava com a aparência mas sim o coração? Como é que agora faz isso com os deficientes físicos? Perceba que o deus da bíblia odeia os deficientes físicos e os trata mal , pois se não os odiasse permitiria com que eles oferecessem o pão a ele (deus). Veja o outro versículo: 18 Pois nenhum homem em quem houver alguma deformidade se chegará; como homem cego, ou coxo, ou de nariz chato, ou de membros demasiadamente compridos. 20 Ou corcunda, ou anão, ou que tiver defeito no olho, ou sarna, ou impigem, ou que tiver testículo mutilado. Percebeu que o deus da bíblia não gosta de pessoas com deficiência física? Em 1 Samuel 16: 6-7 deus diz que não se importa com a aparência entretanto em levítico exclui as pessoas por serem defeituosas fisicamente, logo isto é uma contradição. Na verdade foi o homem que inventou este deus da bíblia, e sendo muito influenciado pela visão (coisas bonitas) é comum escolher pessoas bonitas e sem nenhuma deficiência física. O deus da bíblia é uma burla, jesus é uma burla, espírito santo é burla. Autor: Kano Afri, aquele que te desperta, já amanheceu.
And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, but men love darkness rather than light, because their deeds are evil...John 3:19 This verse summarizes why people defend evil deeds. Jesus has come for us all, but unfortunately humans are inherently evil, and would rather stick to their wicked ways.
Last time i chercked on the Bible the lost Sheeps wete Jewish peopl whome he was sent to. We are noy all Jewish find your identity @@rayfevermontsh549
@@rayfevermontsh549 no he rectified that when he told Peter to go give the Holy Spirit to the gentiles (non Jews- us) ... Apostle Paul too preached that a lot. Not forgetting that it’s the Jews that rejected him so he sent his apostles to spread the message to others who want him. You can be in South Africa or Canada and receive the same Holy Spirit. Only if you believe then You receive him 🙏🏾❤️
So will I be right if I can say there is no Jesus because I got to a wrong church that is led by a false prophet ? My brother maybe you were never even called to be traditional healer in the first place and unfortunately you met a false Sangoma that tought you wrong things.
I hear you. But strange part is most people are turning away from Christianity because white people hijacked it and used it for evil. So do we apply your principle there as well?
@@B4Africain everything in this life there is good and bad side. I suggest people take the good side and can of course share their experiences of coming across with the bad side without generalising.
Thy is a huge difference between izangoma naba Thakathi please ..people must educate themselves... isangoma is a healer uses here gifts and idlozi will even warn that person to never touch imithi encolile ,then umthakathi will definitely use body parts athwalise abantu that is umthakathi ......Good and bad exists in spirituality
I think you talking about Witcher who are using human body, but the real spiritual people don't uses human body parts, Don't group all spiritual people on these
You crazy Human Body will Never Be Herbs Stop Insulting us Africans. He was not a Sangoma he was Murderer😢 True Sangoma's &Nyanga's use Herbs Bra😂this one is Evil💔
In African Indigenous spirituality there's good and evil,not all sangomas use body parts its only those who use dark spirits and that's an individuals choice
I will even go as far as saying we should start differentiating between witchcraft & ubungoma. Sangoma e bolayang,e sebetsang ka bobe, na entse e le ngaka kapa e se e le moloi na?
@@B4Africa It's the same with Christanity, you have fake pastors. That's the case with African spirituality, this man was initiated by umthakathi and he too was practicing ubuthakathi. I'd further support my statement but it would be a waste of time arguing with a believer of the white man's religion and convinced/ made judgement on African spirituality
@nkulehngcobo7217 No I'm listening. Should we than add those who abused and misused the bible for a colonial agenda and slavery? Or do we have a different standard there. I really want to exhaust this discussion. Because now you see a good and bad. But all along you have painted Christianity with whiteness and continue to do so.
@B4Africa Do you think Blacks turned into Christianity willingly? If not, then the cruelty they experienced from the crusaders, how do you justify it if themselves they were living according to the Bible?
@@ajnyathi3533 It's actually very common. Just search ritual kills in Africa and child sacrifice. You will be shocked. 50 % of babies kidnapped in hospitals get turned into muti. Do some research.
Let me tell you something we are not the same thouse people are whichcruft bayaloya labo abafani nathi amanga lawo l am a traditional healer but I don’t use things like that it’s evil
That is not indegenous African healing with human body parts, this guy was never an initiated Sangoma he is sent by his altar to confuse us for him to rise in his altar known to himself to be position on top of the realm of the darkness
But the use of human body parts is no secrete in traditional medicine. Killing albenoes is common. If you can't have babies they actually think using a baby will help. There's documentaries on it. Just search them on youtube and Google. Unicef says 50 percent of babies kidnapped in hospitals end up being use as traditional medicine. So let's not defend the oppression of innocent people and babies.
I’m glad that it is a person who was once called a sangoma who is sharing this story. 😢 People have been misled and they don’t want to listen. Satan is laughing to see how big his church is. Wake up before it’s too late.
@@B4Africa im not defending anythingjust stating the facts as they are. Why alwys Ubungoma is painted bad when someone Join Christianity, let me tell you a Calling can never run away from it from word go he was never gifted of Idlozi
@@AfricaStories-r9l This is a reductionist argument. Unicef already did studies that confirm what he's saying. There are articles online. Just look for muti killings and ritual kills. All these things ukuthwala. This is all part of the same wicked practices that are being done. You can't dismiss it by rolling your eyes. Skhotheni has also exposed this. Let me find a video I did.
Preach ,people will believe anything ,when white people couldnt even heal themselves when they came to africa ,they took our medicines and compress them into pills.and also uses body parts like people brains to make pills.
I see everyone talking about "African spiritually". Whereever and whenever your spirituality involves talking to the dead and sacrificing yo them...that is of the kingdom of darkness
What he is saying is his journey, initiated by a satanic gobela, we are living our pure African Spiritual journey. In every practice there is bad and good. Wabaneshwa nje lokuthwasiswa uSathane. Ngikhulile manje, angikaze ngiyizwe lekhulunywa la.
You were initiated by a witch, my guy. You were initiated into the dark world. And it's highly possible you also were possessed by an evil spirit. You didn't have a calling. Ubungoma and ubuthakathi are two different things. You guys were practicing witchcraft under the pretense of ubungoma.
I dlozi is not african spirit. Even in the Bible is written. Romans 16 ves 16---20. Duteronomy 18 ves 10---14. ( libuyakuphi idlozi read acts 13 from ves 1 ) Levetiks 20 ves 27
Catholic Churches and other religious organizations been doing this for a long time they all understand energy cannot be created or destroyed plain and simple...it's not even a secret anymore especially here in America..the grind all day and night in an ongoing cycle..peace.
Got to get rid of that limited Europe mindset..everything spiritual isn't "evil" practices..colonizers created narratives to make the original people scared of everything that have power in order to keep a people sub under them..there are right and wrong in every system created by men.. If you have a soul connection then listen to it and you'll be alright learning and gaining info to get out of here and never return.
@ultra8067 this is not Smart. Modern science says energy had a beginning at the Big Bang. Nothing can begins without creation. Let's not justify nonsense.
I’ve been watching Ex-convict testimony of prison and gangs, and there is a consistency, that is, that when joining a prison gang, you are only told of the “good” stuff, you find out later what is the actual demand for being there. Fear is another element that is used to keep those within silent about the painful elements of belonging into a gang. The Average Man probably has no idea what is happening within the sangoma camp, and isn’t it a bit weird that the rise of the awakening to AFRICAN SPIRITUALITY is consistent with the rise of VIOLENT CRIMES and ORGAN HARVESTING.
I'm just here to learn. So the colonizers that misused Christianity, we can also say they were fake moss? They don't define the whole thing? Strange how that is the message out there when they see falsehood in Christianity. On their side they want to separate. Is this fair?
Levetiks 20 ves 27 DUTERONOMY 18 ves 10---14 1 Samuel 28 ves 1----20 1 izikronike 10 ves 13---15 And please stop misleading people. Idlozi likhona funda those above verses
You should know that in every spirituality you will find people using it in a good and bad way You have: Good people and bad people Good Angeles and Bad Angeles For example, in some western medication they use human body part to heal you. Saying all Sangomas are the same is totally playing egnorent or it because it is easy for you to attack.
Oh ok. So do we also say that the missionaries that used misused Christianity to oppress Africans were just the bad. But Christianity cannot be defined by those who hijacked it 1500 late. But rather the original is pure? Would you agree?
Pills are not of God have you ever had Paul say I took my pills and drink. If you are obedient to God there will be no need for you to drink pills. Christians are just failing to obey because they like the world.
@B4Africa I can not vow on that cause it was created in Europ according to my knowledge it was created to also oppress Africans But I believe that the name is POWERFUL
@khanyisagumede6432 Facts must be laid in front of us all. The idea that Christianity comes from Europe is a modern development. Mainly due to African Americans who are going through an identity crisis in America and they are almost struggling with white Christian nationalism in America. So they trigger most of this anti-Christian sentiment. Ask any of the ancient historians. Comes from Judea. But why are we talking about Christianity? Answer about the human body parts.
@B4Africa Yes, the written scrolls are from Israel. But the creation of Christianity it from Europe It is like stilling gold in Africa and changing it to something else Then, sell it back
Using muthi to heal illness, cleansing after the burial of your love ones, miscarriage or after your menstrual periods it's okay not charms to attract money,man or hurt someone else
Is Maponga the Pope of African Spirituality? What about people like Dr Khehlelezi? And others who teach about using muti. You don't have a bible. So Maponga can't be the standard.
As for "we are not equal in spiritual 😂😂😂😂"yooo hayi ngeke.... just pray and ask God /Jesus in your case to open your eyes and better understand how does a human mind and thoughts work.
He should be specific of what he is talking about because we when and what some of these people who call themselves traditional healer do, they use those things he is talking about for money rituals and their own bad things and not for healing,I am so pissed I don't even want to finish watching this.
You must say "SOME" Sangomas, not ALL hleng bathong this is fear mongering. You don't HAVE to use human body parts, that's sounds like going overboard, you should be able to choose. Some Sangomas are also prophets in Church and I can assure you, we ain't doing that in church.
Brother talk about your gobela and your journey you experienced don’t include every traditional healer And also it means you never had a true calling from the word go! Your gobela was a fake gobela same as your calling was a fake calling!!
The reality is: there are only two sources of supernatural powers in this world i.e. God and Satan. The question that needs to be answered is: which source is used by sangomas? Can the African Traditional Religion experts help?
🤣🤣🤣😅😅😅😅Bafo, you were being initiated into ubuthakathi not traditional healing. There's huge difference between Inyanga, sangoma nomthakathi. I'm a healer myself. Don't make intakatho yenu eyethu sisonke as abelaphi. Just like there are pastors who hide behind church for their own dirty actions, there are those who hide behind traditional healing. umbhedo lo owukhulumayo. No healer does these things you're talking about.
@RodneyTchisanga not at all. You love everything about colonialism except Christianity. English, soccer, TH-cam, pizza, pasta, cars and everything. Christianity is the y you hate.
@B4Africa christianity came with violence and it was and still is a colonial tool. Cars and pizza and youtube come on man those where not forced on to us with an agenda and through violence and most of those things we acquired through trade. ....as for christianity it was and still is a colonial too and english didnt do us that good too..
@RodneyTchisanga We love everything about colonialism except Christianity. You think western education has no agenda and valuing western culture has no agenda. Soccer is western culture, pizza is western culture. English is the leading tool of colonialism and a way to destroy language. Look at the south african Indians. WE LOVE EVERYTHING ABOUT COLONIALISM. Name 1 person who who was forced to accept Christianity?
You doing better then most christian by responding so i salute you😂 and yep i agree with english is a serious problem and a big colonial tool and yes almost all our ancestors were forced into christianity beanten and whipped into christianity and both me and you know christianity is a colonial tool the bible came in the same ship as the guns and cannons and all other weapons that were used to force us into colonialism and by the way if it wasnt for africans who betrayed their own people colonialism wouldn't have happened so efficiently and almost all kings chiefs that took part in the slave trade and all other spineless kings that also took part in colonialism converted to christianity.....it was a colonial tool and still is to this day and english too i agree with but not the degree of christianity just go read king leopalds letter to the congo..
@RodneyTchisanga My brother I'm very well versed in these topics. I never get a comment I have not already responded to. Just go down my videos. And you take the time to watch. I have responded already. Like a year ago. I studied church history and specialized in it at post graduate level. Name 1 person that was forced to convert to Christianity. I can delete this channel if you can produce one south africa who was held with a gun and told to convert. Bring historical evidence. You won't find them. Slavery started in Egypt, my guy, they were the first to do this. You don't hear us saying African Spirituality is a tool for slavery. A hammer can be used to kill someone or to build a house. Do we blame the hammer or the person who miss used it? These are philosophical discussions and in philosophy we call this a strawman fallacy. When you summarize a philosophy by its abuses so it is easier to attack it. Then you attack the abuses. I say this with love as a fellow African brother. But it's a very weak argument. The kings that sold people to slavery were all practicing African spirituality. And strangely the only African Kingdom to survive colonialism was Ethiopia. And they were a Christian nation. Also remember Christianity arrived I Africa waaaaaaaaay before the missionaries north Africa had a vibrant Christianity and infact the first bible was written there, the word trinity was invented there and most of its key doctrines. The internet memes won't teach you history but rather people's agendas.
Today's sangomas are not before, the true traditional healers existe but we become so greedy and buy spirits to become a healers and those things keep on with your generation.
I think thos guy ad no calling of being a Sangoma a nd he was at wrong place really i am also a christia. And born agora. I wsa supposed to be a sangoma but i chose almighty God 🙏 but i not true that all sangomas are killing people using human body.
@@ThembinkosiPhiri But there are also bad ancestral spirits according to the Pope of African Spirituality Imboni Dr Radebe. Which one of your ancestors would you say is able to support something like this?
I Want To BelieveThat ,A Traditional Healer And A Sangoma Are Two Different Things. A Sangoma Uses Human Parts. While A TRUE Traditional Healer Uses Natural Herbs .
I have no problem with herbalist. Like the Khoisan use natural plants to heal. This is the same as Western medicine. The problem is this thing of invoking spirits and so on.
@@B4AfricaThat's witchcraft and what a witchdoctor does not a sangoma or a traditional healer. This man was definitely trained to be a witchdoctor and not a healer. The question is how did he end up there. Did he really have a so called gift...
Ancestors are not to be worshiped its only God our creator who is whoshiped no matter how much people can try and live there's only one God to be prayed to through Jesus christ our savior DO NOT worship ancestors Amen
You are very funny, why are you call it Africa Spirituality, hahaha We practice our indigenous religion in Yorubaland and we don't do this, 😮😮😮 One thing is yuu have to understand we are living in the world Good and Bad There are Good Pastor and bad Pastor This is Life Sure you right, we have to stop people who engaged in this Thank❤❤
@@B4Africa we don't use human begin kill, only a bad spirituality person can do that Most Yoruba are Muslim and Christian and we still pay homage to our ansecetor even still practice Yoruba Religion if you wish to, Even in Yorubaland paying our ansecetor homepage don't need Initiation. Even if you want to pay homage to Your ansecetor is not a most to buy stuff, if you like you also buy, Yoruba Religion is fun. My mom and father is a pastor, and they don't discriminate, I do much love my Culture, Everybody is free to practice what they wish to
If the traditional healer gives you muthy uyasho yin kuthy wenziwe ngan konje akekho vele ongavuma wake up people ikhna lento izwe liyabhubha abasekho abelaphy ababehamba beyokha mithy emahlathini manje bayigxobe sekusetshenziswa izinto zabantu SENINGAVIKELA NJE BT UKUBOLA OKUSEZWENI KUSHO LUKHULU OKWENZIWAYO
Only symbolic. How can win or juice or even bread be body. Let's not defend human trafficking and then make it equal with eating juice. 😆 stand with the oppressed and don't defend the oppressor.
@@B4Africa everything done physically has a spiritual relationship. Life is spiritual 🤣 🤣 🤣 once we get that into our afrikan heads will overcome our situation
@gracemaseramemokgosinyane5045 where is the blood of Jesus 😆 You guys are so desperate to defend human trafficking and child killing. A Christian can say blood of Jesus. But it's in a spiritual sense. There is no blood. It doesn't lead to anyone's death but rather eternal life. Nina every day a baby is getting kidnapped. And you would rather defend blood thirsty demons. No guys.
@AfricaStories-r9l The question then is what is African Spirituality if not all tribes venerate Ancestors. As if Ancestors is what define African Spirituality.
@@B4Africa African spirituality is more than just ancestors, educate yourselves. It is unwise to criticize something you do not know. There's a Zulu saying that says, "Ukungazi kufana nokungaboni".
@truthrevealer910 Where did I say African Spirituality is just about ancestors? I'm just saying. Infact you agree with me. That if I reject ancestors, if doesn't mean I have rejected my culture, since it's not all about that.
I'm not an expert, when it comes to witchcraft he knows what he knows, all I can say is when you practice witchcraft you can no longer call yourself a sangoma,there is no where in initiation where witchcraft is taught or is supposed to be taught.If I remember well this guy in the video says it was when a certain police officer came for consultation & he was given muthi to protect himself from bullets,the whole issue thus came up about human parts,this was not part of the guy's initiation as sangoma, hence in my previous post I said the sangoma dabbled in witchcraft, meaning he/she is mixing sangoma craft with witchcraft. By the way every person can practice witchcraft should they choose to. I'm unable to explain African spirituality,all I can say is that when a hymn,the pastor's sermon,that which connected with your soul,connected with the inner person & brought about a positive impact or change, that is spirituality & it's the same for religious people & spiritualists.
@tshepisolebuso4173 I'm afraid you not going to get off that easily. Witchcraft is a massive problem I'm the African community. It is the number 1 drive of some of our issues including kidnapping of babies, killing albenoes. Now luck is the number one driver of this whole thing. Because who goes to a Sangoma to pray but as Gogo Skhotheni says 70% of people who consult a sangoma are doing it to harm others. 1. Love portions are Witchcraft because they force people to stay I relationships that are toxic and abusive. And Sangomas help them and no one ever sees that as bad. 2. Dr Khehlelezi said he helps Criminals, and even people who want to commit fraud. He's celebrated as a champion when he says that. Yal don't call him out. Also watch my video on Sangomas exposed. Where the can actually help Izinkabi to kill people. And even help them avoid the law. These are not witches. Just Sangomas and Bheki cele asked them to stop this rituals after people kill. 4. Explain this back to sender idea? I have a video I will like for you that I did. If a witch sends a spell and the good sangoma sends it back. Is he not doing the same thing? Christians want Answers. Come to our show and explain to all the Christians.
@tshepisolebuso4173 There internet has exposed everything. We can no longer hide these lies.th-cam.com/video/VSnjo3fpHdk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=LM3rFhM2HKFVpbD9
@@B4AfricaI'm not sure what you want me to comment on,you asked whether sangomas initiate people into witchcraft & I said you cannot put witchcraft & traditional healing in one space. Traditional healing,bosangoma is very broad & deep. The sangomas you have mentioned do the things they do,I wouldn't even know where to start to do the things they have mentioned. And may I add that being being initiated does not mean that all sangomas practice healing in the same manner,some are caretakers of the family culture s & traditions,,some thwasa to teach the family about how their ancestors lived. People go to initiation already endowed with spiritual gifts & they are supposed to be given tools to manifest these gifts,nothing else. Crimes you mentioned are committed by people who are hiding behind the name of ubungoma,that's all I can say. There are good people & evil people in African spirituality,I cannot deny that. My stand is pure bungoma is to heal,nothing else.
😂interesting subject and also a 2 edge sword, my question to you first did you thorough research about your "calling to be a sangoma "??meaning your ancestors journey to spiritual sangoma hood were they dark or in the light??check that first and why they send you to that gobela?? Have you searched your ancestry lineage?? What was done to you when young??that's why you found yourself going to be initiated there??probably you were chosen to be a curse breaker in your generation but didn't understand everything it's a choice and has karmatic ties please do research first before it continues in your generation.
Kubuhlungu? Yoh. I thought you would say turning people into muti is wrong. But ke you confirming vele that African Spirituality is all about darkness.
@@B4Africa African spirituality is not about darkness, you can't say because there's Satan and Demons in Christanity then Christianity is about darkness no you can't. There's God too and angels. With African spirituality too there's a Creator and the spirits of light. You as an individual have a free will to choose which side you associate yourself with, light or darkness. This man chose darkenss and now wants to paint everyone with the same brush/paint.
@truthrevealer910 I hear you. But Gogo Skhotheni says 70% of people who consult are consulting for evil or harm. And the good sangomas help them. Love portions is evil, forcing people into abusive relationships. Ukuthwala. BackwardsSender is returning evil with evil.
Authentic Sangomas do not kill!!, those are witches, the dark side of spirituality. I think an understanding of good and bad co-existing is important for you to see from right and wrong, you cant bring someone from somewhere and say everything in spirituality is bad, learn from the right people stop confusing others and using one sided confusion to define African indigenous spirituality.
I hear you. I'm just here to learn. So the Sangomas that kill, where do they get initiated. Is there a special initiation for them? Have you ever heard of one?
@@B4Africa Is this how you learn?, by taking something bad and defining something entirely with it? Why didn't you look for an authentic sangoma to explain to you? Why didn't you invite a qualified authentic spiritual guide to teach?, because What I am seeing here is you tarnishing African Indigenous Spirituality, you have an agenda, if you want to learn there are healthy ways of doing that, look at your caption on that video even? Common mahn grow up, if you want to learn questions identify people with true characteristics post their videos not what you are doing
A pupil/thwasa gets initiated from another sangoma, as a pupil you need to go to initiation having been sent there by your ancestors,and this is a topic on it's own, you go there knowing nothing so it's possible the sangoma there dabbles in witchcraft, which is not a norm, in actual fact this person is no longer a healer/sangoma but a witch.
th-cam.com/video/cdIcwrbBqJ8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=zA3Z8s7cuCJ_7ive
Muti murders in South Africa.
Am I the only one who is noticing a mighty awakening through these TH-cam channels
Because the Lord is close
It's time
@@amengemaa oh yes there is awakening, some say it is the end of the world,,,,,it is the end of religious bondage. There is no coming of the Lord, his spirit never left, they claim he works wonders in their lives but how, if he left 2 millenniums ago.
Nobody leaves or come back , our spirits have always been here, we incarnate and take new bodies millions of times to experience being human until we become ascended masters like Yeshua Ben Joseph (Jesus).
@@dumitshabs8719 geat. so you believe in Reincarnation?
@@amengemaa yes we all have past lives and we will continue to reincarnate till we master this class ( Earth Life). Resurrection is reincarnation, difference is you return to the same body not a new hence you still die ( Lazarus was resurrected but he later died like all beings).
Jesus also reincarnated into his old body 🙏🙏
I'm also an ex traditional healer.. though I didn't use human parts,that's extreme 😮God doesn't want us to consult with the dead n it's written in the bible,I ignored dat for years n now I'm glad dat I'm a born again..Glory to Lord Jesus Christ ❤
Praise the blood of JESUS CHRIST
You are seeking. Keep on seeking. Do not stop where you currently find yourself ❤
And they will say that you didn't have the calling you were pretending😂
I love the Lord very much n I was very sick n they will tell me dat da answer is to be initiated n I knew da bible tells us not to consult with the dead..
NECROMANCY, people are talking to demons/evil spirits that knows what your family members did, what kind of perfumes they used, words and phrases. ect. not dead ancestors.
I can see that some of us are not happy about this they would prefer not to hear that but remember just because you suppress the truth it doesn't change the fact
White people are doing the same, the white western dignitaries, politicians go to Congo for power & other means. Human trafficking in black people is so high in Europe and USA, because they use the body parts for the same thing black people are doing with white body parts. This whole world is so backwards
Watch this video- "DISTURBING FOOTAGE - Peter Nygard bargaining with black women to sell their stem cells"
These are eye-opening and horific truths about African spirituality. Where's Bishop Maponga, Dr. Motsekga and other followers of that religion & kingdom? Thank you so much my brother for allowing the Lord to use you. The Lord bless you.
O deus da sua bíblia se importa com a aparência? A farsa de Jeová
Muitos cristãos dizem que este deus não se importa com a aparência das pessoas mas sim com o seu coração. Será verdade isso? É o que vamos analisar.
De acordo com o livro de 1 Samuel 16: 6-7, o próprio deus da bíblia disse que ele vê o coração da pessoas e não a aparência, como podemos ver em:
1 Samuel 16:
6 E sucedeu que, entrando eles, viu a Eliabe, e disse: Certamente está perante o SENHOR o seu ungido.
7 Porém o SENHOR disse a Samuel: Não atentes para a sua aparência, nem para a grandeza da sua estatura, porque o tenho rejeitado; porque o SENHOR não vê como vê o homem, pois o homem vê o que está diante dos olhos, porém o SENHOR olha para o coração.
De acordo com o texto acima percebemos que este deus não se importa com a aparência mas sim com o bom coração, bom comportamento, etc….
Mas surge uma grave contradição. Sabe porque? Pois noutros textos bíblicos o deus da bíblia mostra importar-se com a aparência, como podemos ver em:
Levítico 21: 16 Falou mais o SENHOR a Moisés, dizendo:
17 Fala a Arão, dizendo: Ninguém da tua descendência, nas suas gerações, em que houver algum defeito, se chegará a oferecer o pão do seu Deus.
Como assim?
Porque é que os descendentes do Arão que tinham algum defeito físico não podiam oferecer pão?
Afinal este deus não disse que não se importava com a aparência mas sim o coração?
Como é que agora faz isso com os deficientes físicos?
Perceba que o deus da bíblia odeia os deficientes físicos e os trata mal , pois se não os odiasse permitiria com que eles oferecessem o pão a ele (deus).
Veja o outro versículo: 18 Pois nenhum homem em quem houver alguma deformidade se chegará; como homem cego, ou coxo, ou de nariz chato, ou de membros demasiadamente compridos.
20 Ou corcunda, ou anão, ou que tiver defeito no olho, ou sarna, ou impigem, ou que tiver testículo mutilado.
Percebeu que o deus da bíblia não gosta de pessoas com deficiência física?
Em 1 Samuel 16: 6-7 deus diz que não se importa com a aparência entretanto em levítico exclui as pessoas por serem defeituosas fisicamente, logo isto é uma contradição.
Na verdade foi o homem que inventou este deus da bíblia, e sendo muito influenciado pela visão (coisas bonitas) é comum escolher pessoas bonitas e sem nenhuma deficiência física.
O deus da bíblia é uma burla, jesus é uma burla, espírito santo é burla.
Autor: Kano Afri, aquele que te desperta, já amanheceu.
This is not African spirituality this is Satanism or imikhuba yokuncola
If you're African, give yourself time and do thourogh research about who you are and not what white people say you are. Laziness and small knowledge is very dangerous 💔
You occasionally find Maphonga preaching in some churches even recently it's sad that we allow such
Are you a devel's illuminate?@@Osh454
The truth shall be out always but they will never believe....
Salute u my brother for warning n educating us ❤❤❤🎉🎉
Please stop praising umthakathi, you should be saying AKABOSHWE for his crimes.
@@truthrevealer910lol I'm not praising the testimony but the analogy from the presenter 😂😂but anywheres the testimony is eye opening also 🎉🎉
Your over generalisation is what’s discrediting your views - He entered wrong gates & acquired very wrong information. Every group of people have indigenous systems they still use to this day and they possess both good and bad depending on the person (God vs Satan). Wake up and apply yourself!!
I'm here to learn. Just asking questions. So some Sangomas are bad and some are good. And they work with bad forces and some with good forces?
@@B4Africa most initiation schools are open to researchers - my recommendation is that you invest time to go to some of these schools and do first hand research. We come from many universes of spirituality - A sangoma is different to ngaka but they have similarities - I give you the nguni way of awakening a spirit vs the northern Sotho way. Each sub group has its little unique way of reaching the higher source. If you are familiar with khundalini from Hinduism you’ll grasp African spirituality a bit faster. Good vs bad has more to do with the individual but the art of healing itself is a branch of Gods creation as it stems from the elements of creation where good is more inclined to God & bad more inclined to Satan (In short instead of thinking of African spirituality as bad think of the polarity of life, the bible teaches about God but Satan somehow always emerges so African spirituality teaches about healing and indigenous systems but evil intent always finds its way - THAT IS LIFE).
Seems you're the one who's fast asleep and the devil is using it against you. You're all into w-i-t-c-h-c-r-a-f-t qnd divination, point blank period. There's nothing good about it.
Its true my brother, we were all deceived that if we speak about these secrets we will be mad. We were taught how to scream and speak as if its real . And the issue of body parts its true. I thank God for my SALVATION
@@B4Africa just like there are bad or fake pastors and churches my brother. I also think it's common sense that there are good people and bad people. Really simple. You should try having a conversation with a real spiritual healer.
I believe his testimony. Even Portia Mohau exposes such things😢
Yep. Yet they say African spirituality is beautiful. And another thing I noticed is that it thrives on secrets and fear. Most are scared to leave because they’re scared they’ll either go crazy or die. Lord have mercy and compassion on us.
O deus da sua bíblia se importa com a aparência? A farsa de Jeová
Muitos cristãos dizem que este deus não se importa com a aparência das pessoas mas sim com o seu coração. Será verdade isso? É o que vamos analisar.
De acordo com o livro de 1 Samuel 16: 6-7, o próprio deus da bíblia disse que ele vê o coração da pessoas e não a aparência, como podemos ver em:
1 Samuel 16:
6 E sucedeu que, entrando eles, viu a Eliabe, e disse: Certamente está perante o SENHOR o seu ungido.
7 Porém o SENHOR disse a Samuel: Não atentes para a sua aparência, nem para a grandeza da sua estatura, porque o tenho rejeitado; porque o SENHOR não vê como vê o homem, pois o homem vê o que está diante dos olhos, porém o SENHOR olha para o coração.
De acordo com o texto acima percebemos que este deus não se importa com a aparência mas sim com o bom coração, bom comportamento, etc….
Mas surge uma grave contradição. Sabe porque? Pois noutros textos bíblicos o deus da bíblia mostra importar-se com a aparência, como podemos ver em:
Levítico 21: 16 Falou mais o SENHOR a Moisés, dizendo:
17 Fala a Arão, dizendo: Ninguém da tua descendência, nas suas gerações, em que houver algum defeito, se chegará a oferecer o pão do seu Deus.
Como assim?
Porque é que os descendentes do Arão que tinham algum defeito físico não podiam oferecer pão?
Afinal este deus não disse que não se importava com a aparência mas sim o coração?
Como é que agora faz isso com os deficientes físicos?
Perceba que o deus da bíblia odeia os deficientes físicos e os trata mal , pois se não os odiasse permitiria com que eles oferecessem o pão a ele (deus).
Veja o outro versículo: 18 Pois nenhum homem em quem houver alguma deformidade se chegará; como homem cego, ou coxo, ou de nariz chato, ou de membros demasiadamente compridos.
20 Ou corcunda, ou anão, ou que tiver defeito no olho, ou sarna, ou impigem, ou que tiver testículo mutilado.
Percebeu que o deus da bíblia não gosta de pessoas com deficiência física?
Em 1 Samuel 16: 6-7 deus diz que não se importa com a aparência entretanto em levítico exclui as pessoas por serem defeituosas fisicamente, logo isto é uma contradição.
Na verdade foi o homem que inventou este deus da bíblia, e sendo muito influenciado pela visão (coisas bonitas) é comum escolher pessoas bonitas e sem nenhuma deficiência física.
O deus da bíblia é uma burla, jesus é uma burla, espírito santo é burla.
Autor: Kano Afri, aquele que te desperta, já amanheceu.
And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, but men love darkness rather than light, because their deeds are evil...John 3:19
This verse summarizes why people defend evil deeds. Jesus has come for us all, but unfortunately humans are inherently evil, and would rather stick to their wicked ways.
@@tshepishochuene1280Jesus Christ says he came only for the lost sheep house of Israel not all of us..according to the bible!!
Last time i chercked on the Bible the lost Sheeps wete Jewish peopl whome he was sent to. We are noy all Jewish find your identity @@rayfevermontsh549
@@rayfevermontsh549 no he rectified that when he told Peter to go give the Holy Spirit to the gentiles (non Jews- us) ... Apostle Paul too preached that a lot. Not forgetting that it’s the Jews that rejected him so he sent his apostles to spread the message to others who want him. You can be in South Africa or Canada and receive the same Holy Spirit. Only if you believe then You receive him 🙏🏾❤️
So will I be right if I can say there is no Jesus because I got to a wrong church that is led by a false prophet ?
My brother maybe you were never even called to be traditional healer in the first place and unfortunately you met a false Sangoma that tought you wrong things.
I hear you. But strange part is most people are turning away from Christianity because white people hijacked it and used it for evil. So do we apply your principle there as well?
Thank you this guy need to talk about his gobela not other gobelas who don't practice witchcraft aggaaa maan
@@B4Africain everything in this life there is good and bad side. I suggest people take the good side and can of course share their experiences of coming across with the bad side without generalising.
@@B4AfricaI cannot say there are no prophets of God simply because I was scammed by a false one. Same applies with the traditional healers.
You are lying You and your gobela you were using human bones don't say all sanĝomas are using that shit you talking about you were practice witchcraft
Thy is a huge difference between izangoma naba Thakathi please ..people must educate themselves... isangoma is a healer uses here gifts and idlozi will even warn that person to never touch imithi encolile ,then umthakathi will definitely use body parts athwalise abantu that is umthakathi ......Good and bad exists in spirituality
True
True
Idlozi the dead? Dead people have no power
Thank you God 🙏 keep showing them father the way .Your truth prevails
I think you talking about Witcher who are using human body, but the real spiritual people don't uses human body parts, Don't group all spiritual people on these
I hear you. So you would also agree that we cannot paint Christianity with colonialism? Since it was a later distortion?
@@B4Africa African Spirituality is just like European spirituality....The all burn sage,speak with the dead,they have statues and do sacrifices...
This guys testimony changed my life…❤
Be very careful.
Don't forget TD Jakes and others who have used their churches to abuse, especially women.
You crazy Human Body will Never Be Herbs Stop Insulting us Africans. He was not a Sangoma he was Murderer😢
True Sangoma's &Nyanga's use Herbs Bra😂this one is Evil💔
They grind thr bones and mix it.
❤
I agree with you, and they must be arrested mmmx
These are the ones who want things that are not theirs. He was taught witchcraft.
You are in denial. it will still go on and it is evil.
In African Indigenous spirituality there's good and evil,not all sangomas use body parts its only those who use dark spirits and that's an individuals choice
Ok. So how do these bad sangomas get initiated? Is initiation the same? Or the bad ones have their own?
I will even go as far as saying we should start differentiating between witchcraft & ubungoma. Sangoma e bolayang,e sebetsang ka bobe, na entse e le ngaka kapa e se e le moloi na?
@@B4Africa It's the same with Christanity, you have fake pastors. That's the case with African spirituality, this man was initiated by umthakathi and he too was practicing ubuthakathi. I'd further support my statement but it would be a waste of time arguing with a believer of the white man's religion and convinced/ made judgement on African spirituality
@nkulehngcobo7217 No I'm listening. Should we than add those who abused and misused the bible for a colonial agenda and slavery? Or do we have a different standard there. I really want to exhaust this discussion. Because now you see a good and bad. But all along you have painted Christianity with whiteness and continue to do so.
@B4Africa Do you think Blacks turned into Christianity willingly? If not, then the cruelty they experienced from the crusaders, how do you justify it if themselves they were living according to the Bible?
Jesus Christ our Lord, King of kings walk with you all the way
This is utter bullshit...just say you were initiated by a witch.
@@ajnyathi3533 It's actually very common. Just search ritual kills in Africa and child sacrifice. You will be shocked. 50 % of babies kidnapped in hospitals get turned into muti. Do some research.
Let me tell you something we are not the same thouse people are whichcruft bayaloya labo abafani nathi amanga lawo l am a traditional healer but I don’t use things like that it’s evil
ITS ALL WITCHCRAFT REPENT THE LORD IS COMING
Are you using God's spirit then. Wait I'll answer for you.... A 1000 times NO!!!!
That is not indegenous African healing with human body parts, this guy was never an initiated Sangoma he is sent by his altar to confuse us for him to rise in his altar known to himself to be position on top of the realm of the darkness
Eggzaktlee
Uthwase ubuthakathi
Is it possible? Is there an initiation school?
But the use of human body parts is no secrete in traditional medicine. Killing albenoes is common. If you can't have babies they actually think using a baby will help. There's documentaries on it. Just search them on youtube and Google. Unicef says 50 percent of babies kidnapped in hospitals end up being use as traditional medicine. So let's not defend the oppression of innocent people and babies.
@@B4Africa even hospitals are doing the same. Taking parts from people and give to the sick 😂 😂 the difference is the same
I’m glad that it is a person who was once called a sangoma who is sharing this story. 😢 People have been misled and they don’t want to listen.
Satan is laughing to see how big his church is. Wake up before it’s too late.
Not a Sangoma, false Sangoma - Umthakathi a Witch.
@truthrevealer910 sangoma are witches God hates it read the Bible and escape the judgement of God that's Satanism
He was not a real Sangoma. He is not called
A very stupid person ever in this world, so if he says they used body part to heal he must be also be arrested.
POLICE!! take your oart on this one
@@AfricaStories-r9l Mental gymnastics. Please defend African Spirituality. Because this is an ongoing problem.
@@B4Africa im not defending anythingjust stating the facts as they are. Why alwys Ubungoma is painted bad when someone Join Christianity, let me tell you a Calling can never run away from it from word go he was never gifted of Idlozi
@@AfricaStories-r9l This is a reductionist argument. Unicef already did studies that confirm what he's saying. There are articles online. Just look for muti killings and ritual kills. All these things ukuthwala. This is all part of the same wicked practices that are being done. You can't dismiss it by rolling your eyes. Skhotheni has also exposed this. Let me find a video I did.
@AfricaStories-r9l Izangoma help criminals avoid the law. th-cam.com/video/UQHdA8TkeB4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=wj-__a0f6PJx7uyN
The dark side African Spirituality. th-cam.com/video/VSnjo3fpHdk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=D3ExTdbvKls6i0k2
Even pills some are made with body parts
Exactly! I was looking for this comment
People will not believe you because they are made by a white man and they are nicely packaged and made to look holy.
Preach ,people will believe anything ,when white people couldnt even heal themselves when they came to africa ,they took our medicines and compress them into pills.and also uses body parts like people brains to make pills.
@@lile-um4yu exactly but European medicine is not demoniced what a shame for Africans.
God bless you my brother in Jesus Christ
I see everyone talking about "African spiritually". Whereever and whenever your spirituality involves talking to the dead and sacrificing yo them...that is of the kingdom of darkness
Wow i had to subscribe 👏👏👏
hallelujah praise the Name of the Lord Jesus amen
Amen 🙏
The truth shall set everyone free, I have never trusted inyanga in my life.
What he is saying is his journey, initiated by a satanic gobela, we are living our pure African Spiritual journey. In every practice there is bad and good.
Wabaneshwa nje lokuthwasiswa uSathane. Ngikhulile manje, angikaze ngiyizwe lekhulunywa la.
You were initiated by a witch, my guy. You were initiated into the dark world. And it's highly possible you also were possessed by an evil spirit. You didn't have a calling. Ubungoma and ubuthakathi are two different things. You guys were practicing witchcraft under the pretense of ubungoma.
Abo African Spirituality baphi
I luv them
I dlozi is not african spirit. Even in the Bible is written. Romans 16 ves 16---20.
Duteronomy 18 ves 10---14. ( libuyakuphi idlozi read acts 13 from ves 1 ) Levetiks 20 ves 27
Thats a demin be wise and study the word of God.Stop the witchcraft @wandilenomafu7611
It's not just in Alkebulan aka Africa this wickedness practices is worldwide.
Catholic Churches and other religious organizations been doing this for a long time they all understand energy cannot be created or destroyed plain and simple...it's not even a secret anymore especially here in America..the grind all day and night in an ongoing cycle..peace.
Got to get rid of that limited Europe mindset..everything spiritual isn't "evil" practices..colonizers created narratives to make the original people scared of everything that have power in order to keep a people sub under them..there are right and wrong in every system created by men..
If you have a soul connection then listen to it and you'll be alright learning and gaining info to get out of here and never return.
@ultra8067 this is not Smart. Modern science says energy had a beginning at the Big Bang. Nothing can begins without creation. Let's not justify nonsense.
You are teaching a people an outdated research with a colonizer mindset
I’ve been watching Ex-convict testimony of prison and gangs, and there is a consistency, that is, that when joining a prison gang, you are only told of the “good” stuff, you find out later what is the actual demand for being there.
Fear is another element that is used to keep those within silent about the painful elements of belonging into a gang.
The Average Man probably has no idea what is happening within the sangoma camp, and isn’t it a bit weird that the rise of the awakening to AFRICAN SPIRITUALITY is consistent with the rise of VIOLENT CRIMES and ORGAN HARVESTING.
You are wasting your time,,,, he goes to fake Sangoma just like your fake pastots use the same,,, you fight a loosing battle
I'm just here to learn. So the colonizers that misused Christianity, we can also say they were fake moss? They don't define the whole thing? Strange how that is the message out there when they see falsehood in Christianity. On their side they want to separate. Is this fair?
All are demonic
@B4Africa Let us leave the colonizers and go back to God no more 3xcuses. I uses to talk like you didn't turn well for me
Yoo NOAH of our time praise God
Praise the Lord God Almighty ❤ He is still trying to open people's eyes, stop this idol worship
Amen 🙏
No one is saying that this brother needs to be protected. Hopefully His God will protect him
I knew there is nothing ekuthiwa lidlozi thank God these people are lying
I was doubting it since I was young until I was the first one to get saved in my family praise the Lord 😂
Levetiks 20 ves 27
DUTERONOMY 18 ves 10---14
1 Samuel 28 ves 1----20
1 izikronike 10 ves 13---15
And please stop misleading people. Idlozi likhona funda those above verses
Likhona idlozi thats why libhaliwe nakwi bible
He is not sangoma but a wizard
Sangomas are wizards what do yiu mean
You should know that in every spirituality you will find people using it in a good and bad way
You have:
Good people and bad people
Good Angeles and Bad Angeles
For example, in some western medication they use human body part to heal you.
Saying all Sangomas are the same is totally playing egnorent or it because it is easy for you to attack.
Oh ok. So do we also say that the missionaries that used misused Christianity to oppress Africans were just the bad. But Christianity cannot be defined by those who hijacked it 1500 late. But rather the original is pure? Would you agree?
Pills are not of God have you ever had Paul say I took my pills and drink. If you are obedient to God there will be no need for you to drink pills. Christians are just failing to obey because they like the world.
@B4Africa I can not vow on that cause it was created in Europ according to my knowledge it was created to also oppress Africans
But I believe that the name is POWERFUL
@khanyisagumede6432 Facts must be laid in front of us all. The idea that Christianity comes from Europe is a modern development. Mainly due to African Americans who are going through an identity crisis in America and they are almost struggling with white Christian nationalism in America. So they trigger most of this anti-Christian sentiment. Ask any of the ancient historians. Comes from Judea. But why are we talking about Christianity? Answer about the human body parts.
@B4Africa Yes, the written scrolls are from Israel. But the creation of Christianity it from Europe
It is like stilling gold in Africa and changing it to something else
Then, sell it back
This guy is biased. He is talking about witchcraft not African spirituality.
Pkease show this to maponga so that he can explain to us Africas spiritually
When a traditional healer gives you muti he may not tell you that one of the ingredients is from human body.
Lord continue draw them near to you Father in Jesus name
I would like to hear your thoughts on (illicit) organ trade and stem cell implants..., just in passing..
I am a Traditional Healer but am not using body parts, and even my gobela did not teach me anything about human parts
Using muthi to heal illness, cleansing after the burial of your love ones, miscarriage or after your menstrual periods it's okay not charms to attract money,man or hurt someone else
That was not sangoma but withcdoctor,not all sangoma use human body parts
Tbe same it's all witchcraft that is disguised as helping peooke
Even ko komeng reja di foreskin ka bogobeng , Bongaka ke boloi period
How can a dead body of a baby help u to get pregnant?or to prevent you from miscarriages? 😢poor babies
He had no calling he simply went to ritualist
You do not know anything about spirituality. Your content is just questionable it is clear that you were working for a dark kingdom.
We only want answers. On behalf of innocent lives.
I agree 😢😢more afrikan fools to keep afrika in colonial religious bonding
Demins are also spiritual
The thing is they say pretend,n they say pay for that😮
Mamponga is telling us about where do we belong to our ancestors and they don't say you must use muthi
Is Maponga the Pope of African Spirituality? What about people like Dr Khehlelezi? And others who teach about using muti. You don't have a bible. So Maponga can't be the standard.
Maponga has fallen from grace
Ulahlekile nje kwaphela,kwabona ubungoma ubungabazi ukuthi buyini njengoba bewusebenzisa izinto eziwrong egameni lobungoma, ngicela uze kubaba uHadebe imboni Uzwilezwe khona ezokusiza. Le yokusindiswa isitshela ukuthi awuzazi wena uqobo
So it does confirm that they are witches
My brother you were duped and stop generalizing, obviously you never had it in you and went to fake one, shame
😮😮 u talkin rubbish uwhere not havin amadlozi u you where having amafufunyane so don't talk something u don't know about😮😮
The truths are finally coming out...funny thing is .....thru You Tube...who ever thought..?
From what this guy is saying he was a witch doctor plain & simple
They all are.
So yal also dnt vst pharmacies? Medication? Hospitalz?
We do. Y
As for "we are not equal in spiritual 😂😂😂😂"yooo hayi ngeke.... just pray and ask God /Jesus in your case to open your eyes and better understand how does a human mind and thoughts work.
He should be specific of what he is talking about because we when and what some of these people who call themselves traditional healer do, they use those things he is talking about for money rituals and their own bad things and not for healing,I am so pissed I don't even want to finish watching this.
You are talking about witchcraft my brother
Ok. Where does it come from?
You must say "SOME" Sangomas, not ALL hleng bathong this is fear mongering. You don't HAVE to use human body parts, that's sounds like going overboard, you should be able to choose. Some Sangomas are also prophets in Church and I can assure you, we ain't doing that in church.
Brother talk about your gobela and your journey you experienced don’t include every traditional healer
And also it means you never had a true calling from the word go!
Your gobela was a fake gobela same as your calling was a fake calling!!
The reality is: there are only two sources of supernatural powers in this world i.e. God and Satan. The question that needs to be answered is: which source is used by sangomas? Can the African Traditional Religion experts help?
I'm not an expert but the answer is God, this man and his Gobela the answer is Satan.
satan definitely not God
God hates sorcery and people lying about him. Mercy on your soul @@truthrevealer910
Generalization is big problem.
But God truth remains cabt have excuses
🤣🤣🤣😅😅😅😅Bafo, you were being initiated into ubuthakathi not traditional healing. There's huge difference between Inyanga, sangoma nomthakathi. I'm a healer myself. Don't make intakatho yenu eyethu sisonke as abelaphi. Just like there are pastors who hide behind church for their own dirty actions, there are those who hide behind traditional healing. umbhedo lo owukhulumayo. No healer does these things you're talking about.
We hate everything about colonialisim execpt christianity
@RodneyTchisanga not at all. You love everything about colonialism except Christianity. English, soccer, TH-cam, pizza, pasta, cars and everything. Christianity is the y you hate.
@B4Africa christianity came with violence and it was and still is a colonial tool. Cars and pizza and youtube come on man those where not forced on to us with an agenda and through violence and most of those things we acquired through trade. ....as for christianity it was and still is a colonial too and english didnt do us that good too..
@RodneyTchisanga We love everything about colonialism except Christianity. You think western education has no agenda and valuing western culture has no agenda. Soccer is western culture, pizza is western culture. English is the leading tool of colonialism and a way to destroy language. Look at the south african Indians. WE LOVE EVERYTHING ABOUT COLONIALISM.
Name 1 person who who was forced to accept Christianity?
You doing better then most christian by responding so i salute you😂 and yep i agree with english is a serious problem and a big colonial tool and yes almost all our ancestors were forced into christianity beanten and whipped into christianity and both me and you know christianity is a colonial tool the bible came in the same ship as the guns and cannons and all other weapons that were used to force us into colonialism and by the way if it wasnt for africans who betrayed their own people colonialism wouldn't have happened so efficiently and almost all kings chiefs that took part in the slave trade and all other spineless kings that also took part in colonialism converted to christianity.....it was a colonial tool and still is to this day and english too i agree with but not the degree of christianity just go read king leopalds letter to the congo..
@RodneyTchisanga My brother I'm very well versed in these topics. I never get a comment I have not already responded to. Just go down my videos. And you take the time to watch. I have responded already. Like a year ago. I studied church history and specialized in it at post graduate level. Name 1 person that was forced to convert to Christianity. I can delete this channel if you can produce one south africa who was held with a gun and told to convert. Bring historical evidence. You won't find them. Slavery started in Egypt, my guy, they were the first to do this. You don't hear us saying African Spirituality is a tool for slavery. A hammer can be used to kill someone or to build a house. Do we blame the hammer or the person who miss used it? These are philosophical discussions and in philosophy we call this a strawman fallacy. When you summarize a philosophy by its abuses so it is easier to attack it. Then you attack the abuses. I say this with love as a fellow African brother. But it's a very weak argument. The kings that sold people to slavery were all practicing African spirituality. And strangely the only African Kingdom to survive colonialism was Ethiopia. And they were a Christian nation. Also remember Christianity arrived I Africa waaaaaaaaay before the missionaries north Africa had a vibrant Christianity and infact the first bible was written there, the word trinity was invented there and most of its key doctrines. The internet memes won't teach you history but rather people's agendas.
There is a difference between
UKUTHWASA and UKTHWALA. so wena ubuthwele and usathwele namanje now umqonqo uyakushiya
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Today's sangomas are not before, the true traditional healers existe but we become so greedy and buy spirits to become a healers and those things keep on with your generation.
I think thos guy ad no calling of being a Sangoma a nd he was at wrong place really i am also a christia. And born agora.
I wsa supposed to be a sangoma but i chose almighty God 🙏 but i not true that all sangomas are killing people using human body.
There are ancestral good spirits healing people but there are ritualists calling themselves Sangomas check the spirits says the Lord Amen
@@ThembinkosiPhiri But there are also bad ancestral spirits according to the Pope of African Spirituality Imboni Dr Radebe. Which one of your ancestors would you say is able to support something like this?
Wathwala udliwa lo
I Want To BelieveThat ,A Traditional Healer And A Sangoma Are Two Different Things.
A Sangoma Uses Human Parts.
While A TRUE Traditional Healer Uses Natural Herbs .
I have no problem with herbalist. Like the Khoisan use natural plants to heal. This is the same as Western medicine. The problem is this thing of invoking spirits and so on.
Nope. A witchdoctor uses human parts and practices evil. Not a sangoma.
@@B4AfricaThat's witchcraft and what a witchdoctor does not a sangoma or a traditional healer. This man was definitely trained to be a witchdoctor and not a healer. The question is how did he end up there. Did he really have a so called gift...
Ancestors are not to be worshiped its only God our creator who is whoshiped no matter how much people can try and live there's only one God to be prayed to through Jesus christ our savior DO NOT worship ancestors Amen
You are very funny, why are you call it Africa Spirituality, hahaha
We practice our indigenous religion in Yorubaland and we don't do this, 😮😮😮
One thing is yuu have to understand we are living in the world Good and Bad
There are Good Pastor and bad Pastor
This is Life
Sure you right, we have to stop people who engaged in this
Thank❤❤
Yoh! Yoruba land. Please. Give me a break.
@@B4Africa we don't use human begin kill, only a bad spirituality person can do that
Most Yoruba are Muslim and Christian and we still pay homage to our ansecetor even still practice Yoruba Religion if you wish to,
Even in Yorubaland paying our ansecetor homepage don't need Initiation.
Even if you want to pay homage to Your ansecetor is not a most to buy stuff, if you like you also buy, Yoruba Religion is fun.
My mom and father is a pastor, and they don't discriminate, I do much love my Culture,
Everybody is free to practice what they wish to
They are under one umbrella...sangoma, inyanga and witches Kingdom of darkness
If the traditional healer gives you muthy uyasho yin kuthy wenziwe ngan konje akekho vele ongavuma wake up people ikhna lento izwe liyabhubha abasekho abelaphy ababehamba beyokha mithy emahlathini manje bayigxobe sekusetshenziswa izinto zabantu SENINGAVIKELA NJE BT UKUBOLA OKUSEZWENI KUSHO LUKHULU OKWENZIWAYO
As we eat the body and drink the blood of a muzungu jeezus 😂😂😂
Afrikans must do their own rituals
Only symbolic. How can win or juice or even bread be body. Let's not defend human trafficking and then make it equal with eating juice. 😆 stand with the oppressed and don't defend the oppressor.
@@B4Africa everything done physically has a spiritual relationship. Life is spiritual 🤣 🤣 🤣 once we get that into our afrikan heads will overcome our situation
Then is it right to use blood of jesus is it not using human parts
@gracemaseramemokgosinyane5045 where is the blood of Jesus 😆 You guys are so desperate to defend human trafficking and child killing. A Christian can say blood of Jesus. But it's in a spiritual sense. There is no blood. It doesn't lead to anyone's death but rather eternal life. Nina every day a baby is getting kidnapped. And you would rather defend blood thirsty demons. No guys.
@@B4Africa have you heard of what the Rome priests do to children in the name of jesus?
U were initiated by a ritualist.
They are all ritualistic sorcery
Vaccines and many other food ingredients use human fetal cells too😢
Mmmmmmmm God please have Marcy on us so all of the traditional healers are using body parts?
There is a difference between sangoma and inyanga
Yes. Sangoma is uses divination and Inyanga uses herbs. I guess we sometimes just bind them under one word.
@@B4Africa I am not nguni but someone told me that a Sangoma is a female inyanga.
@@machibamaime4095 They lied to you.
Jesus is The ONLY WAY,THE ONLY TRUTH and the LIFE...
Not all African tribes venerate ancestors. th-cam.com/video/Mng0ggtSL6Y/w-d-xo.htmlsi=3gTeUtisQVPWLJ6N
@@B4Africa so you one of Them?? Which tribe you belong to?
@@AfricaStories-r9l half Khoisan/Xhosa. But please watch the videos. We can't engage when you guys don't want to hear us out.
@AfricaStories-r9l The question then is what is African Spirituality if not all tribes venerate Ancestors. As if Ancestors is what define African Spirituality.
@@B4Africa African spirituality is more than just ancestors, educate yourselves. It is unwise to criticize something you do not know. There's a Zulu saying that says, "Ukungazi kufana nokungaboni".
@truthrevealer910 Where did I say African Spirituality is just about ancestors? I'm just saying. Infact you agree with me. That if I reject ancestors, if doesn't mean I have rejected my culture, since it's not all about that.
Not all sangomas use body parts .Witches use body parts.
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I'm not an expert, when it comes to witchcraft he knows what he knows, all I can say is when you practice witchcraft you can no longer call yourself a sangoma,there is no where in initiation where witchcraft is taught or is supposed to be taught.If I remember well this guy in the video says it was when a certain police officer came for consultation & he was given muthi to protect himself from bullets,the whole issue thus came up about human parts,this was not part of the guy's initiation as sangoma, hence in my previous post I said the sangoma dabbled in witchcraft, meaning he/she is mixing sangoma craft with witchcraft.
By the way every person can practice witchcraft should they choose to.
I'm unable to explain African spirituality,all I can say is that when a hymn,the pastor's sermon,that which connected with your soul,connected with the inner person & brought about a positive impact or change, that is spirituality & it's the same for religious people & spiritualists.
@tshepisolebuso4173 I'm afraid you not going to get off that easily. Witchcraft is a massive problem I'm the African community. It is the number 1 drive of some of our issues including kidnapping of babies, killing albenoes. Now luck is the number one driver of this whole thing. Because who goes to a Sangoma to pray but as Gogo Skhotheni says 70% of people who consult a sangoma are doing it to harm others. 1. Love portions are Witchcraft because they force people to stay I relationships that are toxic and abusive. And Sangomas help them and no one ever sees that as bad. 2. Dr Khehlelezi said he helps Criminals, and even people who want to commit fraud. He's celebrated as a champion when he says that. Yal don't call him out. Also watch my video on Sangomas exposed. Where the can actually help Izinkabi to kill people. And even help them avoid the law. These are not witches. Just Sangomas and Bheki cele asked them to stop this rituals after people kill. 4. Explain this back to sender idea? I have a video I will like for you that I did. If a witch sends a spell and the good sangoma sends it back. Is he not doing the same thing? Christians want Answers. Come to our show and explain to all the Christians.
@@tshepisolebuso4173 Sangomas and Crime. Please watch and comment there. I'm waiting. th-cam.com/video/UQHdA8TkeB4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=v3Y2-58bkOLBSLYP
@tshepisolebuso4173 When Sangomas send back to sender. Watch and comment. th-cam.com/video/wuqQztQjLhs/w-d-xo.htmlsi=lIMX3FYE_b87XGR7
@tshepisolebuso4173 There internet has exposed everything. We can no longer hide these lies.th-cam.com/video/VSnjo3fpHdk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=LM3rFhM2HKFVpbD9
@@B4AfricaI'm not sure what you want me to comment on,you asked whether sangomas initiate people into witchcraft & I said you cannot put witchcraft & traditional healing in one space. Traditional healing,bosangoma is very broad & deep. The sangomas you have mentioned do the things they do,I wouldn't even know where to start to do the things they have mentioned. And may I add that being being initiated does not mean that all sangomas practice healing in the same manner,some are caretakers of the family culture s & traditions,,some thwasa to teach the family about how their ancestors lived. People go to initiation already endowed with spiritual gifts & they are supposed to be given tools to manifest these gifts,nothing else. Crimes you mentioned are committed by people who are hiding behind the name of ubungoma,that's all I can say.
There are good people & evil people in African spirituality,I cannot deny that. My stand is pure bungoma is to heal,nothing else.
Am just wondering if he got rich doing that was he going to tell?
U have to learn to distinguish between witch doctor and traditional doctor.
unfortunately most so called traditional doctors and herbalists also practice witchcraft.. Difficult to trust any of them
Being initiated by a big water snake are you going to be normal like other ppl no you'll be heartless like that snake
same thing
@@bridgettelerato4067 🤣🤣🤣 Who was initiated by a big water snake? Niyahlekisa mahn!
@@sagittariusdemigod_123 traditional healers dah😒 it's no secret we know
They familiar spirits
😂interesting subject and also a 2 edge sword, my question to you first did you thorough research about your "calling to be a sangoma "??meaning your ancestors journey to spiritual sangoma hood were they dark or in the light??check that first and why they send you to that gobela?? Have you searched your ancestry lineage?? What was done to you when young??that's why you found yourself going to be initiated there??probably you were chosen to be a curse breaker in your generation but didn't understand everything it's a choice and has karmatic ties please do research first before it continues in your generation.
Kubuhlung kmuntu omnyama ngokungazi ezomoya zakwantu salimala isizwe esimnyama inkulu lendaba Bantu bomoya salinyazwa zinkolo zabamhlophe akesifunden okwethu mkhulu monakal owenziwe yilenkolo zabamhlophe kthi
Kubuhlungu? Yoh. I thought you would say turning people into muti is wrong. But ke you confirming vele that African Spirituality is all about darkness.
I'd rather adopt foreign believe than be a murderer
Y'all like justifying nonsense and like sounding "woke" as if you said something profound. You've been deceived by the devil.
@@B4Africa African spirituality is not about darkness, you can't say because there's Satan and Demons in Christanity then Christianity is about darkness no you can't. There's God too and angels. With African spirituality too there's a Creator and the spirits of light. You as an individual have a free will to choose which side you associate yourself with, light or darkness. This man chose darkenss and now wants to paint everyone with the same brush/paint.
@truthrevealer910 I hear you. But Gogo Skhotheni says 70% of people who consult are consulting for evil or harm. And the good sangomas help them. Love portions is evil, forcing people into abusive relationships. Ukuthwala. BackwardsSender is returning evil with evil.
You were initiated in the dark arts. So it is understandable
no my brother u just got introduced to witchraft...don't insult our African religion..don't get me wrong i beleive in GOD
Authentic Sangomas do not kill!!, those are witches, the dark side of spirituality. I think an understanding of good and bad co-existing is important for you to see from right and wrong, you cant bring someone from somewhere and say everything in spirituality is bad, learn from the right people stop confusing others and using one sided confusion to define African indigenous spirituality.
I hear you. I'm just here to learn. So the Sangomas that kill, where do they get initiated. Is there a special initiation for them? Have you ever heard of one?
Words out of my mouth,thank you.
@@B4Africa Is this how you learn?, by taking something bad and defining something entirely with it? Why didn't you look for an authentic sangoma to explain to you? Why didn't you invite a qualified authentic spiritual guide to teach?, because What I am seeing here is you tarnishing African Indigenous Spirituality, you have an agenda, if you want to learn there are healthy ways of doing that, look at your caption on that video even? Common mahn grow up, if you want to learn questions identify people with true characteristics post their videos not what you are doing
@naomindlovu6820 Well he was a sangoma and he's saying all. So I thought you guys would clarify for me. How do witches get initiated?
A pupil/thwasa gets initiated from another sangoma, as a pupil you need to go to initiation having been sent there by your ancestors,and this is a topic on it's own, you go there knowing nothing so it's possible the sangoma there dabbles in witchcraft, which is not a norm, in actual fact this person is no longer a healer/sangoma but a witch.