"Kinda reminds me of those horrible belt-holsters people used to have for their phones." I seem to recall *you* having one of those in your vids a while ago.
I know it's a joke. But I think hes talking about those ones from like the early 2000s that are like multi colored and were awful. I think they used them in Zoey 101 in of the episodes were they were given phones and had to compete
That's where I'm at too...Keyboard headphone jack and 1080p screen not to mention descent stereo speakers. It's certainly better then my Moto Z2 Force that I'm currently rocking.
How do you spend ten minutes talking about this phone and not mention the alternate OS options?! Out of the box support for Lineage or Sailfish is huge!!!
@@Yomom12388 its the point of that phone though, the fact you can be free from android and iOS greed. Sure Linux phones arent ready for the general consumers but he shouldve at least mentionned it somewhere in the video, since its the number one sale point of that phone.
You guys forgot about the open source software capabilities. The bootloader is unlocked and it allows you to install pretty much anything you want (Linux distro wise or whatever) easily. Major feature imo that you guys totally missed, especially since they officially support that kinda thing.
Nayviler. Cool! I checked the thing out, and it seems like it didn’t have much support in terms of games. It’s kinda like how the 3ds didn’t originally catch on
The thing is, phone games have been designed with touch screen in mind. So that player need to adjust more with phisical controller than them with touch screen. Unless we are talking about emulator.
@@ahmadmuhdi190 I'd say that except for casual arcade games (which is the one area phone games excel) almost all mobile games are just PC knockoffs with touch controls that either take up half the screen or are so simple that they only have 3 unique inputs. Personally I would not mind a slide controller like they did with that Xperia back in 2011. Plus imagine that with today's chips, you could make an emulating monster.
Advantage of having a sliding, physical keyboard on your phone: The virtual keyboard will not cover 90% of the screen when you tilt it to horizontal mode. This should be a good gimmick for 2020 phones. Make sure it is durable and buttons are big, clickable and easy to press. When the phone is vertical, virtual keyboard can be use. But in horizontal mode, virtual keyboard is off as you can use the build-in sliding keyboard.
One issue I see from this video is that keyboards would have to be a lot longer than the old phones because of the large touchscreens, which would make the physical keys pretty large and spaced out, something I wasn't a fan of back in the day. I preferred simple, small keyboards that I could easily reach both sides if I stretched far enough with my thumbs. It's a personal issue I suppose. I just really miss the speed and accuracy I could text with on a full physical keyboard phone, even behind my back thanks to the standouts on the f and j keys he mentions in this video. Ah, the old days. 😆
@@UserOfTheZune typing on glass is only bearable because of autocorrect. The existence of autocorrect in itself proves that glass is inherently inaccurate by design. And it's not surprising nor is it rocket science to understand this.
There's a new version of this phone out today that is partnered with XDA and runs Lineage OS right out of the box!! There's also a Ubuntu Touch variant. Please cover it Linus! 💙
@@AstroKitty16 theyre all crap tho, the best solution is a keyboard case ,u got a case and a keyboard ,kill 2 birds one stone and u dont compremise buying a mid range spec phone for £700
girlsdrinkfeck HTC made really awesome keyboard phones, like the HTC 7 Pro. Though, it stayed on windows phone 7 for the last one... Very confortable, great quality, number row on the top... I loved that phone. Stayed with me for about 6 years.
Interestingly enough, the best modern phone BB manufactured was Z30, which was fully touchscreen with very functional and intuitive gestures, without any capacitive keys.
Same. I refuse to get one without a real keyboard, I despise this industry fuckery of no keyboards they have the fucking gall to charge 800 they can fucking add a real fucking keyboard.
Yeah, there seems to be a sort of cognitive dissonance going on here. I like Linus, but going from thinking about retiring to adding another channel...I dunno
@@touf48 Are you aware that that's originally a drug term? Also, is it really smurfing when they're starting a new channel because this content would not fit on LTT anymore?
@@kagesong Smurfing has been used as an online term to mean a smaller character/account/whatever used by a person with a much larger/higher level/whatever account. This is not really smurfing, but none of that is the point... Words are reused and repurposed all the time. The origins of the phrase (if they even are etymologically linked) are actually irrelevant. Did you know that Armor was originally spelled Armour? Do you care that Drugstores don't sell drugs? Does it matter that a 'phone' is now a small computer, not just a term for sound? No, it really doesn't.
TRHANK YOU!!! I fucking despise utterly detest how phones went from the kind of thing the Fx, BB Key 1-3, Titan should have been, what LG has to do, To the same fucking landscape of utter, utter, utter ginormous mounds of shit. I will never get another phone without a real keyboard. Ever.
Also. I will probably skip a lot of the 'mondern phone" because I fucking detest how god damn mother fucking ugly and sinfully wasteful they are. I don't give 2fucks about megapixels! I want my god damn thing to be uncomplicated and I'd happly give up 20 mega dick cameras to have a real actual keyboard, real actuall batteries, you can replace. I don't give 3 fucks about chin this bezzel that. I really really don't
A 3.5 jack would make waterproofing harder and less effective. It should really just be an option to have it or not because a lot of people don’t care about waterproofing
i havnt dropped my current phone in the wc yet, and im not planning to take it under water anytime in the forseable future, so, waterproofing to me isnt a major issue. replaceable battery would be awesome, and a 3.5mm jack is a very much welcomed addition. the specs would have to be top tier, and a keyboard would be the cherry that tops the cake!
@@graphicsgod More like I have a medical disability that makes operating touch screens with fingers rather problematic, and I am tired of typing via a stylus.
Agreed. I grew up on a farm and around tractor trailers. I've crushed, smashed, and mangled my hands over my life. My thumbs are fat, my left hand is busted to shit (I was left handed, but after shattering that wrist 8 times, I'm now right handed), and I don't have little dainty hands like Linus. Touch screens are just horrendous for me. The area is tiny, I never hit the key I intend to, the onscreen keyboard obscures 1/3rd of the screen, and the autocorrect everyone tells me works so damn well makes me sound like a foreign exchange student with dyslexia. Sure I can get away with typing a 5-10 word message on a touchscreen, but anything beyond that is near impossible. Of course I could be more terse, but alas, I refuse to. Case in point, a lot of the online forums I still hang out at have users come in on their cellphones and post short nonsensical posts and then they get pissed at us because we can't figure out what they're asking because they tried to condense a paragraph into a short sentence riddled with typos and abbreviations.
@@graphicsgod Try touch-typing while walking and watching the traffic around you. Also the hardware keyboard is not obstructing 1/3rd (portrait) or 1/2 (landscape) of the screen.
I hate that everyone insists on copying Apple's shittiest ideas. Touch keyboards are OK for casual use, but rubbish for anything important... Even typing a password is a bit of a guessing game when you don't have it shown on the screen (which is a retarded method of working around the problem). I really miss having phones that were practical.
@@pirosoffaireyes Prices for everything have gone up tf you mean? A bag of chips in 2005 were about 75 cents, 2009 they went up to a 1$, 2015 they went up to 1.50$, now they are 1.75 to 1.89. And that is a perfect example.
@@Alex-kq2pf you realize that's how things go right? That same bag of chips used to cost 5 cents at some point. The reason flagship phones cost so much more is because they are fundamentally more complex. Phones in general have gotten dirt cheap and are widely available with specs you could hardly imagine a decade ago, if you want the cutting edge today you are not really shopping for a better phone but for a showcase of technology. And you know exactly what you are doing. It's like complaining that modern day supercars are overpriced compared to that chevy nova you bought new with a six banger and three speed stick. The actual market in both cases shows that the lower and middle range of performance and value have never been better! You cant buy a car in america today that wont break 100mph, the Miragebis probably the worst economy car you can buy today yet itll break 125, comes loaded in base form with power windows and locks and tons of other features. Similarly even the most basic smart phone today is far more than just a means to place a call and the midrange market is filled with affordable options that offer fantastic performance and value. Back to the car analog a modern middle of the road sedan today offers performance on par or better than performance cars of the past, a current Honda Accord will happily run with most 90s Porsches on a road course. If you are actually shopping top tier phones or cars today you know exactly what you are doing and have no basis to complain about price, it's not like the past where buying premium was required just to get noticeably decent performance from either.
@@RadioMartyT1B It's super convenient to be able to do that for quick stuff though. Especially if I'm out somewhere where and don't actually have access to a computer.
As a BlackBerry Key2 user, I think this might be my next phone since BB is now officially dead. Can't live without the physical keyboard, touch typing and responding to emails and messages can get really fast on the physical keyboard when you master the muscle memory of the layout. Also I manage code … loads of code … and I occasionally write scripts on the go, a touch screen keyboard is awful for that!
The Nokia E7 is the one phone I keep lusting over, it was the first phone I ever bought with my own money, bought it with my first paycheck. Felt like such a hacker when using putty touch connected to an irssi session on a friend's Linux server, had even set up gestures to switch between irssi chat windows and to scroll in the chat log... Then about 6 months after I got it, it got stolen... That was a sad day...
Everything about the E7 was amazing. Except Symbian - that was one disaster of the OS. I remember being hopeful that there might be some hacky, janky way to Port Android on to it before I very heavy heartedly moved on to a phone without a keyboard. There was only so much of 3 hangs every 30 minutes I could take...
@@GamerCheatsForAll I'm an IT work millennial with kinda small hands(great for my work) and I *still* hate touch screen keyboards. Yeah, let me smudge up my screen and not be able to type blindly as easily because it's not easy to gauge where my fingers exactly are. To compensate for that, just throw in a janky auto-correct that's constantly messing up the works. Oh, wanna wear gloves because it's cold outside? Welp, better break out the crappy stylus that offers no real features beyond "kinda mimics what it's like to be touching the screen with a finger." That's totally a great design choice. Several years later and it's *still* trash. Who would've though.
Can confirm, it's just a larger scale hinge compared to the Nokia. Other than the size the Nokia has the trivial difference of holding the screen on a more shallow angle. How do I know? Well it's because a Nokia N97 is my daily phone and it's on my desk right next to me
My husband used to have a phone with that kind of keyboard and he was CRAZY fast on that thing. But then again he basically grew up on a computer so...
I also grew up on a computer and I'm massively faster on a touchscreen than on a phone sized physical keyboard. The problem with phone physical keyboards is that you can't actually *type* with them because you use multiple fingers to type properly, even if you don't know standardized touch typing technique (I don't but I'm self taught and can hit about 90wpm on a normal keyboard regardless). As a result, you're stuck using just your thumbs, and your thumbs aren't going to be faster on a physical keyboard than using a swipe keyboard to write whole words in a couple of movements, especially with the power of predictive text in this day and age.
@@browncoat697 touchscreen typing limits me to 70 wpm, I can easily get to 100 wpm on physical... *well, I guess you did say that physical keyboard for phone makes someone type slower, don't know if that's true*
@@browncoat697 my predictive text sucks....it hinders me. AND, sometimes, when i move on to the next word, the predictive text thinks I've changed my mind about a word it previously got RIGHT (based on the phraseology), and changes the RIGHT word back to a WRONG one. Touch screen typing is the ultimate 1st-world dystopia and I don't know how anyone lives with it. It's moving backwards. (At least iphone predictive text. I remember liking my Android's from years ago...)
As someone who has to wear gloves 24/7 at work in a dirty factory. I would love the idea of a physical keyboard again. It's why I have the Note 9, at least I can use the stylus without taking my gloves off.
I just use a Caterpillar, Nokia 3310 style phone when we‘re in Field Exercises (I‘m in the army) and we‘re allowed to take a phone. It cost me like 45ish Euro and I had a Jeep drive over it, still works.
my favorite phone I ever owned had a slide out keyboard, best typing experience ive ever had still. Pretty funny that its been 15 years of phone innovation and the digital keyboard suck so much compared to physical qwerty keyboards
I got one of these. Ordered it in March 2019, got it in January 2020 🙄. I was willing to take a performance hit from my one plus 6 back then if the keyboard experience was everything I remembered it being. Unfortunately, while I do like using the keyboard, the crappy camera, muddy earpiece, and a bunch of other issues I have make me feel like I wasted my money. My only hope is that they take the feedback and make the Pro 2 a real banger
@@danimayb I type a lot for work on the road. It would be extremely convenient to have a keyboard that I don't have to lug around and plug it and crap. The slightly slower specs doesn't bother me. The build quality it very good, the software is pretty solid, headphone jack is a hugeeee plus for me, and other things make this a very compelling device
When using the phone for remote access, the special characters are less of an issue than the amount of screen real-estate the on screen keyboard takes up. Especially if you are trying to see everything in landscape mode while RDPing onto something. If I could have that keyboard set up built into a flagship for an extra 100-150 bucks I would probably do it.
Aaaah....but why not something like a MSSurf? where you have a keyboard. lol I can't imagine trying to type cat * . (FUCK typo) cat /user (FUCK another typo) on a touchscreen. Unless you you mean with something like the oldschool sidekick. Even then I for one would hate to try to have a remote x-screen on a already small screen.
I was actually really disappointed when physical keyboards started going away and everything went on the screen. I HATED typing on a screen for the longest time. Can't say I'm a a fan of it now either.
I agree. However it has been so long since I've used a physical keyboard phone that I'm nowhere near as fast on one as I used to be. Swipe style virtual keyboards have basically been my go to for many years. I've tried to go back to my sidekick 4g and as much as I love that phone's keyboard... I'm just nowhere near as fast as I was on my old sidekick 3 and LX 2009.
I honestly long for the days when I texted without looking on my sidekick 3 at school with my phone under my desk. I got so fast at one point that I could send several per minute. Now... Regardless of whether it is virtual or physical I can only send like maybe one or two in a minute at best. 2006 me could send like a dozen using my sidekick. Usually most without looking.
I think this phone might be handful for people with vision disabilities. They actually love physical keyboards on laptops a lot. They use VoiceOver to read the screen contents (including buttons and so on). You can watch how they type on the phone with touchscreen: they usually use 8 fingers to type and hold their phone upside down.
It's the worst. Never needed autocorrect with the physical keyboard and now hate the shit that it thinks I'm typing. Who in their right mind would ever use ducking three times in one sentence?
I still have my Motorola Milestone and surprisingly it's still functioning well with a custom Rom, the beauty of a physical keyboard shines where you can have your full keyboard along with the entire screen real estate at the same time, and yes, it's very convenient during an RDP session for example. to go around this other layer of keys I suggest having the switch button (equivalent to shift for example) on the other side of the phone where the shutter key is, but more accessible to the hand like in a game controller where the user can hold it using the index finger while typing with the thumbs.
@@DeeSnow97 TH-cam sub count display is behind realtime. they tweeted a picture of the socialblade sub count breaking 100k before they went live with the video
Hi Linus! there's another reason to buy this phone, and it's the unlocked bootloader, so I can install things like AOSP Android, Lineage Android (in case you don't like Google) or even a pure Linux Operating system like Sailfish OS! :) Yes, server administration is one of the main reasons, I have an iPhone and a Pixel 2, yet, I still use my Nokia N900 (yes, the 11 years old phone) because of the keyboard, so I can SSH to my servers and work on them.
Man, there are so many times when a physical keyboard is just so much better: - When you want to type something without looking at the phone - When it's cold and you're wearing gloves. - When it's cold and you _AREN'T_ wearing gloves but you're fingers are frozen. - When you are sweaty or kind of wet and your gross hand liquids are smearing all over the screen and making the touch sensor glitch out. (TH-cam is especially bad at this. Sometimes I try to just hit a skip button or tell it to play next... even though autoplay is on... and TH-cam likes to completely shit itself if the touch sensor messes up for even a little bit. Even if I completely clean the screen and dry it, scrolling on TH-cam will be broken and if I'm in picture-in-picture mode then just touching the screen anywhere will cause the mini player to fly all over the place. Not even force stopping the app will fix it, I will _actually have to hard restart the phone to fix this stupidity._ And it's ONLY TH-cam that does this, everything else will work fine, even other videos will play in the mini player without having a fucking seizure.) - When you are working in an environment where you have to wear gloves for safety or protection and the touchscreen sensitive ones are not an option. - When you want to actually be able to type in landscape mode and see something other than the fucking keyboard - Certain mobile gaming like OpenMW or emulators that let you map keyboard inputs. - Wanting your special characters to be in their normal goddamn positions and not wherever the keyboard decides to put them. - Typing in bright sunlight and you don't want to wreck your battery by putting the screen on max brightness. - If you don't have little baby Canada hands and not even a goddamn Note screen is big enough for you to reliably only press one key on the touch screen at a time, but you had zero problem with the much smaller physical keyboard on the LG enV2 because tactile feedback. - You have super callous-y fingertips from guitar and manual labor and touch screens don't always like that when making tiny, precise taps, especially if you have a screen protector on. - _HAVING ARROW KEYS._ (sometimes, depends on the model. Sometimes it's a little circle D-Pad with an enter button in the middle kinda dealio. Still a definite plus) - You like being able to feel your inputs and having the buzzer tickle your fingertips doesn't cut it.
What kind of phone and keyboard app do you have? On my Vivo Nex S and SwiftKey it doesn't use the whole screen. Just 2/3. That leaves plenty of room for the text.
I rather they have 1 with good content, wich sadly isn´t the case for the last 10 videos. been watching since he unboxed things in the backroom of NCIX and for the first time in 9 something years i don´t watch their videos till the end.
Would be awesome for a company to make this design but with a second display instead of a keyboard. Would be skinner, more useful, and customizable. It could easily be made from a durable plastic and i know theres technology out there to basically allow a physical bubble to pop on the screen to recreat a physical keyboard, it just isn't the prettiest on the main display. But on a second hidden display which sole use is for productivity scaling .. well pretty display doesnt really matter.
They literally made a current generation Nokia N97. TBH I wouldn't mind getting something like that, I loved my N97 12years ago, I still have it and it still works. Although I would love to see a bezel-less 7~7,5" screen with a motorized side front camera on the left and since the fat part that the keyboard is on has so much space, I would love it to be 5000+ mAmp battery. It could be the mid-ground between a phone and a laptop!
@@iceytoa1 yup, same thought. Also I felt E7's display was better tucked in the body unlike this one on video. Meaning E7 looked like one phone but this one like 2 glued together.
This makes me nostalgic for my Moto Droid. The best argument for a physical keyboard is being able to print out a plastic gamepad that snaps over the keyboard that you can use with emulators.
Yes, yes I do want a keyboard on my phone. I miss slide out keyboards. Typing was so much easier. I've been doing it for years now, but I still can't stand typing on touch screen.
He also missed what could very well be one of the best advantages of having a physical keyboard, which is physical keys for game emulation. Which is incredibly important with a lot of games.
I've genuinely been asking for this for years, but I'd still like to see it with true flagship features. This type of keyboard implementation on a galaxy note would be a game changer for me.
Predictive typing and thumb tapping on a screen is a mess. It always has the worst issues when you are trying to type something important and tries to force the user to use words only in the softwares dictionary. I would love it if there was a properly priced phone that had a physical keyboard. I loved my Droid 2 it was a champ and took a hell of a beating. Give me a phone that is at the same power as the current flagships, add a keyboard and make it durable.
@@KaeganThornhillTheCyberRaven yea, but it wasn't linked to lmg in any public way amd there was no advertising the channel, the first anyone in the publec head about it was that ltt video yesterday, and it took 4 hours from when that video went live until it had 100k subs.
@@jordanwhitecar1982 If you clicked on their "Channel Page" (aka Featured tab) then you could find it listed among the other Linus channels before the Video was uploaded. (I stubbled a-crossed it about 2 days) Edit: But yeah 99.9% People came/subbed here after the Tech Team mentioned this Channel the other day and looking forward to more unboxing videos.
The second I saw the video title, I though I am buying it. And after seeing the video I am definitely buying it. I had phones with physical keyboards till they stopped making them and I held on to my last one till it couldn't hold a charge for more than an hour. I am VERY glad to see them again. It is very annoying to have to find special characters in keyboard apps. And mobile webpages are garbage. I am looking forward to being able to use a websites desktop version, as I can easily use the phone rotated horizontally. And I really don't get the problem with things being a little thicker. Everything has gotten stupid thin (and flimsy). I remember cellphones (and portable PC's) from the 90's. If they we are as thick as that they would be insanely powerful and your battery would last well over a week. I say make them thicker there is absolutely no harm in it.
Wow, I hardly knew this was an LTT vid since it didn't have 2 pre-roll ads, with a baked in video ad afterwards, all for a video that was 100% for a sponsored product, with a mid roll LTT merch ad, with two post video ads at the end
There's another aspect to remote server admin type stuff that you missed. Does this thing have special keys like control or arrow keys for example? Because that would be insanely useful. Also not losing screen space to the keyboard. I was developing a plugin on my Nextcloud server from my phone recently and that was a goddamn nightmare...phones make shitty text editors already due to lack of buttons, but add an SSH layer on top of that and it's really quite awful. You lose half the screen to the keyboard, then the app has to add a layer of extra buttons above that, so you're typing in a one inch tall portion of screen. And if you want to go landscape? Well... You basically can't.
@Amal Joe Abraham if you already have a keyboard on hand its very likely that youre close to your pc so your obviously going to use that. I have to agree with @Urza9814 , ssh on a phone is a fucking nightmare. this phone could be really handy if you have to do a lot of server stuff on the go. but man... $700 is just to much for that novelty
@Amal Joe Abraham well sure, but then you have to remember to carry a keyboard around all the time too. You *could* get a pocket sized bluetooth on or something (never seen a pocket size wired one) but that's just one more device and one more battery to keep charged.... As for gboard... Without control the arrow keys alone don't help much. Ever use VI or Emacs? Hell, you couldn't even use nano with that... So you still need an extra row of buttons plastered on top of the keyboard by the SSH app (assuming you have one smart enough to add that feature too...not all of them do)
Used the Blackberry PRIV for years (this was after the old-school Blackberrys, and after Blackberry had switched to Android) and loved it. Big fan of physical keyboards
"If you know anyone who is yearning for a physical keyboard" ....That's me. I have sorely missed a real honest ot god keyboard. God do I miss my old slider phones. But at that price.....yeah I'll wait, as 2-3 other companies are actually making some currently.
Physiscal keyboards are comingback, as a option. I think that's a good thing ^_^ . From what I know iOS does the onscreen keyboard a bit better than andrioid. Probably because Android needs to get tweaked to a phones particular hardware. I haven't a clue what googles excuse is.
This phone reminds me of a phone I had about ten years ago. A touch pro 2 from htc running Microsoft Windows Mobile 6.1. I absolutely freakin loved that phone! Dedicated keyboard worked so smooth. I'm a guy who likes em thicc so I don't mind that either. I'm honestly looking around to see if I can get it at a good price purely for nostalgia purposes. Anyway, random rant. G'luck with the new channel Linus. Hope this will be closer to your heart
I loved my HTC Touch Pro2 and WM 6.1 was a pretty good OS (for productivity). Until Steve Jobs made everyone think they wanted a keyboardless phone to play music and games on.
I remember my nokia n900. For me: the perfect cellphone: it supported both horizontal and vertical view, lots of apps and customization, physical keyboard and it was slider. Sadly it only supported 3g.
I think this phone might be handful for people with vision disabilities. They actually love physical keyboards on laptops a lot. They use VoiceOver to read the screen contents (including buttons and so on). You can watch how they type on the phone with touchscreen: they usually use 8 fingers to type and hold their phone upside down.
"Kinda reminds me of those horrible belt-holsters people used to have for their phones."
I seem to recall *you* having one of those in your vids a while ago.
I know it's a joke. But I think hes talking about those ones from like the early 2000s that are like multi colored and were awful. I think they used them in Zoey 101 in of the episodes were they were given phones and had to compete
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" For when you want to feel like a Tech-savvy Cowboy."
@@KaeganThornhillTheCyberRaven QUICKDRAW _Points fingergun_
Also says the guy with the sandals 😂
Questionable build quality, hard to use keyboard,lousy camera..not for me...wait a Headphone Jack!......SOLD
The build reminds me of an old Nokia phone that had the Symbian OS, had a keyboard too.
Probably with a shitty dac.
Just get a pixel 3a to get a headphone jack and a great phone.
That's where I'm at too...Keyboard headphone jack and 1080p screen not to mention descent stereo speakers. It's certainly better then my Moto Z2 Force that I'm currently rocking.
@@FMHikari the Nokia N97 and then E7 had that hinge
2008 : wow it's touchscreen
2019 : holyshit real physical keyboard
Why 2019 and not 2020
Some people still not getting used to 2020...
Wow, have we really come back full circle from keyboard to screen to keyboard? lol
@@danieljaworski1294 because the phone is from 2019
@@A.Kralani I was wondering if that might be the case. Thank you for answering a question I didn't word very well.
How do you spend ten minutes talking about this phone and not mention the alternate OS options?! Out of the box support for Lineage or Sailfish is huge!!!
he didn't even mention how it's the only phone that offers a modularity that good.
And Ubuntu Touch
How many people are going to be using either of those alternate OS options?
@@Yomom12388 its the point of that phone though, the fact you can be free from android and iOS greed. Sure Linux phones arent ready for the general consumers but he shouldve at least mentionned it somewhere in the video, since its the number one sale point of that phone.
I am using Sailfish OS since about 10 years and it is amazing. Can recommend it.
It's so wierd looking at such a high production quality video, without an intro, outro, sponsor segment, etc... Especially from Linus! No Sponsors!
Ah, just you wait...
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THISVIDEOISSPONSOREDBYFRESHBOOKS-
Wait, he didn't even mention LTTSTOREDOTCOM. Are we sure this isn't a deepfake channel?
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Finally. Unboxed Therapy except I actually want to watch it.
Not a sell out either 👀 👀 👀
OOF
@@FCoFix how is that guy a sell out
@@thepolticalone961 he always does sponsored content without mentioning it. At least ltt uses "showcase" to mark sponsored videos
@@BusAlexey is that legal? Because that's really bad
You guys forgot about the open source software capabilities. The bootloader is unlocked and it allows you to install pretty much anything you want (Linux distro wise or whatever) easily. Major feature imo that you guys totally missed, especially since they officially support that kinda thing.
I need this stupid phone
@@Moskito844 same
I'd love to have that phone with those capabilities.
@ShortCircuit accidentally edited the comment and the pin fell off!
@@codeHusky also the "like" has been removed? 🤔
I’m surprised that gaming phones don’t have sliding controllers under the screen. I wouldn’t mind the EXTRA THICC
Sony did this in like... 2011 I wanna say? I still think it was a great idea. It's a shame that it didn't catch on.
Nayviler. Cool! I checked the thing out, and it seems like it didn’t have much support in terms of games. It’s kinda like how the 3ds didn’t originally catch on
Lg has a bunch of phones with a dual screen where you can use the 2nd screen as a controller, basically like a ds
The thing is, phone games have been designed with touch screen in mind. So that player need to adjust more with phisical controller than them with touch screen. Unless we are talking about emulator.
@@ahmadmuhdi190 I'd say that except for casual arcade games (which is the one area phone games excel) almost all mobile games are just PC knockoffs with touch controls that either take up half the screen or are so simple that they only have 3 unique inputs. Personally I would not mind a slide controller like they did with that Xperia back in 2011. Plus imagine that with today's chips, you could make an emulating monster.
Reminds me of the old days with "classic unboxings", just Linus' pure reaction to a product. Nice and refreshing
Linus, I can hear your storage server crying, “Not another channel,” all the way from Texas.
that's where petabyte project comes in, to store ltt and like 10 other channels LMG has managed to create, each with their own 8k footages
@@wegon_ab_guuud I'm pretty sure they've said that petabyte project is almost full
pabloeli29 yup.... but there is a new one. Vid will be out next week ;)
@@ErebuBat are you... One of those mythicals "floatplane subscribers?"
@@robinsuj ahhaha
Advantage of having a sliding, physical keyboard on your phone:
The virtual keyboard will not cover 90% of the screen when you tilt it to horizontal mode.
This should be a good gimmick for 2020 phones. Make sure it is durable and buttons are big, clickable and easy to press.
When the phone is vertical, virtual keyboard can be use. But in horizontal mode, virtual keyboard is off as you can use the build-in sliding keyboard.
Virtual keyboards are miles better in every possible way
Much easier to type My essays on
One issue I see from this video is that keyboards would have to be a lot longer than the old phones because of the large touchscreens, which would make the physical keys pretty large and spaced out, something I wasn't a fan of back in the day. I preferred simple, small keyboards that I could easily reach both sides if I stretched far enough with my thumbs. It's a personal issue I suppose. I just really miss the speed and accuracy I could text with on a full physical keyboard phone, even behind my back thanks to the standouts on the f and j keys he mentions in this video. Ah, the old days. 😆
@@dnghn.design With the random capitalization missing I hope, and some punctuation, unlike your comment here! 😆
You’re literally describing the 2007 Samsung F700
@@UserOfTheZune typing on glass is only bearable because of autocorrect.
The existence of autocorrect in itself proves that glass is inherently inaccurate by design.
And it's not surprising nor is it rocket science to understand this.
There's a new version of this phone out today that is partnered with XDA and runs Lineage OS right out of the box!! There's also a Ubuntu Touch variant. Please cover it Linus! 💙
Yes, I watched an interview with the developers just a couple of days ago. Very interesting.
@@erichoberg3502 yea, let's hope lineage os partners with a better company next time
And they're working on getting more OSes werking
@@laurinneff4304 I hope they do cause other custom roms are even better
Thanks, homie
Almost silver play button with 0 uploads, lol
really to me i saw 100k sub b4 he uoload that video
Actually, we got 100K before we published it. YT public stats are always a bit behind! :D
@@ShortCircuit big dick energy
@@ShortCircuit this was intentional wasn't it
sly bastards
@@toastdcif it wasnt it should have been
This phone is so advanced it’s literally a mathematical function
Mathlab on the fly with this... If you want to be really hardcore.
@@AstroKitty16 theyre all crap tho, the best solution is a keyboard case ,u got a case and a keyboard ,kill 2 birds one stone and u dont compremise buying a mid range spec phone for £700
girlsdrinkfeck HTC made really awesome keyboard phones, like the HTC 7 Pro. Though, it stayed on windows phone 7 for the last one...
Very confortable, great quality, number row on the top... I loved that phone. Stayed with me for about 6 years.
Interestingly enough, the best modern phone BB manufactured was Z30, which was fully touchscreen with very functional and intuitive gestures, without any capacitive keys.
Hey hey, I was promised a channel without any uploads...
2019: Real Keyboard
2099: Full Cherry MX keys in your Watch
cherry mx are gonna be old
@@KrakerMraker they *are* old. I'm typing on a keyboard from almost 10 years ago that has cherry mx switches.
@@KrakerMraker keyboards aren't silicon; new tech is rarely a big improvement if an improvement at all
im still good with my membrane keyboard
@@missingno2401 Same lol
"reminds me of those horrible belt holsters people used to wear"
*slides belt holster as far back as it will go*
"For when you want to feel like a Tech-savvy Cowboy"
@@KaeganThornhillTheCyberRaven or if your a dad and a construction worker.
Kyle Warner my dad has an iPhone 11 in flip top belt holster. Somethings never change.
"there won't be anything on it"
*clicks link - video upload less then 1minute ago*
:O
Same
@@eschere991 i think they waited for 100k subs then uploaded a vid - hence a no vid silver button channel at first
Literally me. xD
@@gelo1523 They needed it to be worth putting up. Putting a video up to nobody is bad algorithm juju
lol same
Wow this guy is really smart and in depth, i hope he can get to 10m soon!
Even better than those LTT Guys!
Could say the same about Intel desktop CPU's.
@@JanneKeller And I'm dead
Hope he doesn't drop anything on these unboxings, you do that once on a channel and no one will let it go.
@@SlocumJoe7740 "once"
"Do you REALLY want a Keyboard on your Phone???".... Yes, VERY MUCH SO YES.
... But why?
@@PeterMoore5 because it is 100%easier, quicker, and more accurate to type on. Imagine never having to blame autocorrrct again!
@@MikeSidelka just turn off autocorrect lmao
Same. I refuse to get one without a real keyboard, I despise this industry fuckery of no keyboards they have the fucking gall to charge 800 they can fucking add a real fucking keyboard.
I really liked my HTC dream phone with keyboard, it's so satisfying pressing the buttons and so much easier and quicker to write
"I've clearly lost my touch here" - yea, you're using a physical keyboard on a phone...
Pun intended?
@@iDunnoMC I know it is, I just pointed it out.
I just got it now. xD
*SLOW CLAPS* ..... *points to door*
Linus: "I'm going to retire"
also Linus: "We have a new channel" lol
actually happy about it
new channel without "Linus" in the name, get ready boys.
@@FernandezEmG Neither Techquickie or Techlinked had Linus in it...
R\wooosh
We love linus!!
Yeah, there seems to be a sort of cognitive dissonance going on here. I like Linus, but going from thinking about retiring to adding another channel...I dunno
I love how they can get a silver button in less than a day with 1 vid
i mean yeah, they're literally smurfing
@@touf48 Ban Smurfs what are you doing devs
@@touf48 Are you aware that that's originally a drug term? Also, is it really smurfing when they're starting a new channel because this content would not fit on LTT anymore?
These guys have the userbase to farm infinite Creator Awards.
@@kagesong Smurfing has been used as an online term to mean a smaller character/account/whatever used by a person with a much larger/higher level/whatever account. This is not really smurfing, but none of that is the point... Words are reused and repurposed all the time. The origins of the phrase (if they even are etymologically linked) are actually irrelevant. Did you know that Armor was originally spelled Armour? Do you care that Drugstores don't sell drugs? Does it matter that a 'phone' is now a small computer, not just a term for sound? No, it really doesn't.
yes, i want the keyboard.
no, i dont need 3+ cameras on the phone.
yes, i want a 3.5mm jack.
no, i dont care if its a mm thicker.
TRHANK YOU!!! I fucking despise utterly detest how phones went from the kind of thing the Fx, BB Key 1-3, Titan should have been, what LG has to do, To the same fucking landscape of utter, utter, utter ginormous mounds of shit. I will never get another phone without a real keyboard. Ever.
Also. I will probably skip a lot of the 'mondern phone" because I fucking detest how god damn mother fucking ugly and sinfully wasteful they are. I don't give 2fucks about megapixels! I want my god damn thing to be uncomplicated and I'd happly give up 20 mega dick cameras to have a real actual keyboard, real actuall batteries, you can replace. I don't give 3 fucks about chin this bezzel that. I really really don't
@@gorkskoal9315 could not agree more
A 3.5 jack would make waterproofing harder and less effective. It should really just be an option to have it or not because a lot of people don’t care about waterproofing
i havnt dropped my current phone in the wc yet, and im not planning to take it under water anytime in the forseable future, so, waterproofing to me isnt a major issue. replaceable battery would be awesome, and a 3.5mm jack is a very much welcomed addition. the specs would have to be top tier, and a keyboard would be the cherry that tops the cake!
Instead of BlackBerry, I think this is more like spiritual successor to classic Nokia N97 or old Xperia Pro lineup ...
More like a successor to nokia n900, or even more precise, n950, but that phone was never sold in stores.
@@ClickCLK you know whats up ma dude
@@ClickCLK have you checked maemo leste? or postmarketOS?
@@Suppboio googled about this OS'es yesterday, but not used them. My favourite mobile OS is Sailfish, and fxtec pro1 supports it, albeit unofficially.
I still have my Nokia n97 in my drawer , but from the looks of it, the keyboard is smaller on the n97 and it was comfortable to use with 2 thumbs.
I love this. It's like Unbox Therapy, but made by someone that really knows his stuff.
i just hope it won't go the unbox therapy route.. i fell like most of their "unboxes" are phone reviews or ads.
@@radumirceabunica7492 Most?
Unbox therapy is cancer imho, he is the new age of tv infomercials
Unbox Therapy Lew is a scammer and major sellout, fuck that guy.
@@UnknownUser-fg3fs Mr. Whosetheboss is way worse.
"Do you REALLY want a Keyboard on your Phone???"
YES
Yes, I'm old and new things are scary and don't work very well.. 😝
@@graphicsgod More like I have a medical disability that makes operating touch screens with fingers rather problematic, and I am tired of typing via a stylus.
Agreed.
I grew up on a farm and around tractor trailers. I've crushed, smashed, and mangled my hands over my life. My thumbs are fat, my left hand is busted to shit (I was left handed, but after shattering that wrist 8 times, I'm now right handed), and I don't have little dainty hands like Linus.
Touch screens are just horrendous for me. The area is tiny, I never hit the key I intend to, the onscreen keyboard obscures 1/3rd of the screen, and the autocorrect everyone tells me works so damn well makes me sound like a foreign exchange student with dyslexia.
Sure I can get away with typing a 5-10 word message on a touchscreen, but anything beyond that is near impossible. Of course I could be more terse, but alas, I refuse to. Case in point, a lot of the online forums I still hang out at have users come in on their cellphones and post short nonsensical posts and then they get pissed at us because we can't figure out what they're asking because they tried to condense a paragraph into a short sentence riddled with typos and abbreviations.
@@graphicsgod Try touch-typing while walking and watching the traffic around you. Also the hardware keyboard is not obstructing 1/3rd (portrait) or 1/2 (landscape) of the screen.
I hate that everyone insists on copying Apple's shittiest ideas. Touch keyboards are OK for casual use, but rubbish for anything important... Even typing a password is a bit of a guessing game when you don't have it shown on the screen (which is a retarded method of working around the problem).
I really miss having phones that were practical.
I remember when Flagship phones were only 500bucks
Yeah i remember the galaxy s2 as well. That was 9 years ago.
Yeah, I remember when economy was better and that's why the phones cost a lot
@@Alex-kq2pf I am pretty sure it's not because of the economy. They just wanna milk our money.
@@pirosoffaireyes Prices for everything have gone up tf you mean? A bag of chips in 2005 were about 75 cents, 2009 they went up to a 1$, 2015 they went up to 1.50$, now they are 1.75 to 1.89. And that is a perfect example.
@@Alex-kq2pf you realize that's how things go right? That same bag of chips used to cost 5 cents at some point.
The reason flagship phones cost so much more is because they are fundamentally more complex.
Phones in general have gotten dirt cheap and are widely available with specs you could hardly imagine a decade ago, if you want the cutting edge today you are not really shopping for a better phone but for a showcase of technology. And you know exactly what you are doing.
It's like complaining that modern day supercars are overpriced compared to that chevy nova you bought new with a six banger and three speed stick. The actual market in both cases shows that the lower and middle range of performance and value have never been better! You cant buy a car in america today that wont break 100mph, the Miragebis probably the worst economy car you can buy today yet itll break 125, comes loaded in base form with power windows and locks and tons of other features.
Similarly even the most basic smart phone today is far more than just a means to place a call and the midrange market is filled with affordable options that offer fantastic performance and value. Back to the car analog a modern middle of the road sedan today offers performance on par or better than performance cars of the past, a current Honda Accord will happily run with most 90s Porsches on a road course.
If you are actually shopping top tier phones or cars today you know exactly what you are doing and have no basis to complain about price, it's not like the past where buying premium was required just to get noticeably decent performance from either.
5:36 It’s a screen space thing too. If you’re remoting into a server you don’t want a keyboard taking up half your screen.
If you're SSH'ing into a server on your phone...you might want to reconsider how you do things.
@Damian Chiliński what keyboard app do you use?
@@RadioMartyT1B Why? A phone is just another workstation, and it really doesn't matter where you're connecting from.
@@RadioMartyT1B It's super convenient to be able to do that for quick stuff though. Especially if I'm out somewhere where and don't actually have access to a computer.
I would just buy a phone case with integrated bluetooth keyboard. Google found one for my phone for $35.
As a BlackBerry Key2 user, I think this might be my next phone since BB is now officially dead. Can't live without the physical keyboard, touch typing and responding to emails and messages can get really fast on the physical keyboard when you master the muscle memory of the layout. Also I manage code … loads of code … and I occasionally write scripts on the go, a touch screen keyboard is awful for that!
AlTheEngineer have you bought the phone yet? How is it?
@@nerd2544 I didn't buy it yet. I might wait for their next iteration, my BlackBerry Key2 is still working fine!
Does anyone know if I can use this with T mobile
AlTheEngineer you still holding on to that BB key? Thinking of buying it.
@@danilodistefanis5990 hnnnm yes I do. What's your offer?
If Nokia E7 was done today. That hinge is straight from that phone, and even then it was solid.
Sometimes you just want to see the entire screen while typing!
The E7 was SUCH a good phone...
The Nokia E7 is the one phone I keep lusting over, it was the first phone I ever bought with my own money, bought it with my first paycheck.
Felt like such a hacker when using putty touch connected to an irssi session on a friend's Linux server, had even set up gestures to switch between irssi chat windows and to scroll in the chat log...
Then about 6 months after I got it, it got stolen...
That was a sad day...
Everything about the E7 was amazing. Except Symbian - that was one disaster of the OS. I remember being hopeful that there might be some hacky, janky way to Port Android on to it before I very heavy heartedly moved on to a phone without a keyboard. There was only so much of 3 hangs every 30 minutes I could take...
Nokia E7 is amazon phone. It look so great and you just can make hole in wall with it. Still sad I can not use is anymore.
I love that a manufacturer is still making these. Touch screen keyboards piss me off.
touch screen keyboards sucks ass!
OK fatfingered ass boomer
@@GamerCheatsForAll I'm an IT work millennial with kinda small hands(great for my work) and I *still* hate touch screen keyboards.
Yeah, let me smudge up my screen and not be able to type blindly as easily because it's not easy to gauge where my fingers exactly are. To compensate for that, just throw in a janky auto-correct that's constantly messing up the works. Oh, wanna wear gloves because it's cold outside? Welp, better break out the crappy stylus that offers no real features beyond "kinda mimics what it's like to be touching the screen with a finger." That's totally a great design choice.
Several years later and it's *still* trash. Who would've though.
@@GamerCheatsForAll Ok skinnyfingered ass zoomer
InfernosReaper OK fatfingered ass boomer
I like the more unscripted feel of this. Looking forward to more.
"The back certainly doesn't feel as good as the front"
I agree, Linus
Hmmm 😬😬😬😬
_linus sex tips_
😉🤭👍
😂😂
15 year old's rejoice
Linus please let me see my kids again I’m begging you. They know enough tech tips already please set them free.
Sounds like youre about to short circuit
from kids, "hey dad or mom, YOU **** OFF! I NEED MY FIX THE MORE LINUS MAKE THE MORE I NEED! I SWEAR IF YOU CUT ME OFF I WILL BITE!"
ROFL!!!!!
@@burntalive I think they mean that their kids watch LMG/LTT videos all the time.
@@antiisocial I think you didn't get the joke.
please think about the children 🤣
Touchscreen keyboards frustrate the hell out of me, Yes a physical keyboard is a huge selling point for me!
I second this
Ok boomer
Don't need to be a boomer to like a keyboard, I'm only 20
Kenixboe ok boomer
@@cringecake321 👌
4:04 Literally It is your first drop in your new channels. Congrat.
He is keeping it consistent. Lmao
1:19 he knocked something off the front of the table
@@yabbadabba320 That was intentional
Nope,he dropped the phone already at: th-cam.com/video/a9uI-XdP8B8/w-d-xo.htmlm8s
awwe some things ought to never change *touched sniffle
I feel so misled.. I was told nothing would be uploaded here..
dibrado
ikr?
They said there would be no video until 100.000 subscribers, last time I checked there were 101.000
@@webfischi not when the video was uploaded.
@@victorduarte6337 nah it was uploaded after, youtube lag
The hinge is basically from the Nokia N97 if someone even remembers that phone.
Can confirm, it's just a larger scale hinge compared to the Nokia. Other than the size the Nokia has the trivial difference of holding the screen on a more shallow angle. How do I know? Well it's because a Nokia N97 is my daily phone and it's on my desk right next to me
More like E7
I had a Nokia E7, which I guess used the same hinge. To this day it still is my favorite phone that I have owned.
This brings back Nokia N900 memories for me
HTC made a Windows phone just like this too
My husband used to have a phone with that kind of keyboard and he was CRAZY fast on that thing. But then again he basically grew up on a computer so...
I also grew up on a computer and I'm massively faster on a touchscreen than on a phone sized physical keyboard. The problem with phone physical keyboards is that you can't actually *type* with them because you use multiple fingers to type properly, even if you don't know standardized touch typing technique (I don't but I'm self taught and can hit about 90wpm on a normal keyboard regardless). As a result, you're stuck using just your thumbs, and your thumbs aren't going to be faster on a physical keyboard than using a swipe keyboard to write whole words in a couple of movements, especially with the power of predictive text in this day and age.
@@browncoat697 I just hate predictive text xD And also don't understand people who are faster typing on touchscreens xD
@@browncoat697 touchscreen typing limits me to 70 wpm, I can easily get to 100 wpm on physical...
*well, I guess you did say that physical keyboard for phone makes someone type slower, don't know if that's true*
@@browncoat697 my predictive text sucks....it hinders me. AND, sometimes, when i move on to the next word, the predictive text thinks I've changed my mind about a word it previously got RIGHT (based on the phraseology), and changes the RIGHT word back to a WRONG one. Touch screen typing is the ultimate 1st-world dystopia and I don't know how anyone lives with it. It's moving backwards. (At least iphone predictive text. I remember liking my Android's from years ago...)
@@akpokemon u can switch it off
How many channels do you want?
Linus : yes
LTT , tech quickie , tech linked , LMG clips , now this
channelsuperfun
Damn it... I thought I was watching LTT.
They should collaborate
Linus cat
I thought I was watching LTT. lol
As someone who has to wear gloves 24/7 at work in a dirty factory. I would love the idea of a physical keyboard again. It's why I have the Note 9, at least I can use the stylus without taking my gloves off.
I got a Mini Bluetooth keyboard off eBay because of this
Didn’t think about it that way omg
@@Mrpiraterias Which one?
I just use a Caterpillar, Nokia 3310 style phone when we‘re in Field Exercises (I‘m in the army) and we‘re allowed to take a phone. It cost me like 45ish Euro and I had a Jeep drive over it, still works.
"Do you REALLY want a Keyboard on your Phone???"
YES!
but not at this pricepoint with specs this low
@@grimyhr fair point!
@@grimyhr agree maybe with SD 400 series, 2/3gb ram, and 32gb roms, and between 100-200 price consider Keyboard add some price.
nope
Me too. Lol
my favorite phone I ever owned had a slide out keyboard, best typing experience ive ever had still.
Pretty funny that its been 15 years of phone innovation and the digital keyboard suck so much compared to physical qwerty keyboards
reminds me of nokia e7
LMG is becoming a discord server. Theres a different channel for everything now
Can't wait for the NSFW channel to pop up.
Also, they still have fewer channels than CaptainSparcklez.
maxie fuqua and far fewer than Simon Whistler lol
I thought I was watching LTT
maxie fuqua linus drop her wife
I got one of these. Ordered it in March 2019, got it in January 2020 🙄. I was willing to take a performance hit from my one plus 6 back then if the keyboard experience was everything I remembered it being. Unfortunately, while I do like using the keyboard, the crappy camera, muddy earpiece, and a bunch of other issues I have make me feel like I wasted my money. My only hope is that they take the feedback and make the Pro 2 a real banger
@@danimayb I type a lot for work on the road. It would be extremely convenient to have a keyboard that I don't have to lug around and plug it and crap. The slightly slower specs doesn't bother me. The build quality it very good, the software is pretty solid, headphone jack is a hugeeee plus for me, and other things make this a very compelling device
I would love physical keyboards to come back!!
Not if it makes the phone 3 times thicker.
If the phome has to be thicker, i would perfer a bigger battery.
@@bigboldbicycle just imagine, your touchscreen keyboard didn't pop out/not responding. What would you do?
@tom lewis you're right
@tom lewis thank you!
*dropped a brand new phone on an unboxing*
Linus "i lost my touch"
yes Linus, yes
When using the phone for remote access, the special characters are less of an issue than the amount of screen real-estate the on screen keyboard takes up. Especially if you are trying to see everything in landscape mode while RDPing onto something. If I could have that keyboard set up built into a flagship for an extra 100-150 bucks I would probably do it.
Or ask yourself why are you doing remote acess from a fucking phone.
Yeah, I always have a bluetooth keyboard in my bag for that reason.
@@gorkskoal9315 Because you are getting PAID to be on-call UNIX server support? Give me SSH and a command-line, baby!
Aaaah....but why not something like a MSSurf? where you have a keyboard. lol I can't imagine trying to type cat * . (FUCK typo) cat /user (FUCK another typo) on a touchscreen. Unless you you mean with something like the oldschool sidekick. Even then I for one would hate to try to have a remote x-screen on a already small screen.
igor zsh or bash?
I was actually really disappointed when physical keyboards started going away and everything went on the screen. I HATED typing on a screen for the longest time. Can't say I'm a a fan of it now either.
Thank you! So I am not alone then.
I agree. However it has been so long since I've used a physical keyboard phone that I'm nowhere near as fast on one as I used to be. Swipe style virtual keyboards have basically been my go to for many years.
I've tried to go back to my sidekick 4g and as much as I love that phone's keyboard... I'm just nowhere near as fast as I was on my old sidekick 3 and LX 2009.
I honestly long for the days when I texted without looking on my sidekick 3 at school with my phone under my desk. I got so fast at one point that I could send several per minute. Now... Regardless of whether it is virtual or physical I can only send like maybe one or two in a minute at best. 2006 me could send like a dozen using my sidekick. Usually most without looking.
I think this phone might be handful for people with vision disabilities. They actually love physical keyboards on laptops a lot. They use VoiceOver to read the screen contents (including buttons and so on). You can watch how they type on the phone with touchscreen: they usually use 8 fingers to type and hold their phone upside down.
It's the worst. Never needed autocorrect with the physical keyboard and now hate the shit that it thinks I'm typing. Who in their right mind would ever use ducking three times in one sentence?
he kinda looks like Linus from LTT...... maybe i'm tired.
I mean... It's him .-.
@@bachhongoc6461 Of course you didn't get the joke, you ape.
@@bachhongoc6461 🤦♂️
Yeah, I agree. He kinda looks like Linus.
@@bachhongoc6461 r/woooosh
I still have my Motorola Milestone and surprisingly it's still functioning well with a custom Rom, the beauty of a physical keyboard shines where you can have your full keyboard along with the entire screen real estate at the same time, and yes, it's very convenient during an RDP session for example.
to go around this other layer of keys I suggest having the switch button (equivalent to shift for example) on the other side of the phone where the shutter key is, but more accessible to the hand like in a game controller where the user can hold it using the index finger while typing with the thumbs.
I love a physical keyboard. Way better than onscreen, I miss them! This is up my ally.
10 yrs later when this is at 20M subs, we're gonna look back, and think: We were this channel's first subscribers...
The OGs yo
keeeeewl
Souvik Mukherjee hmm
Tagging this post for future
Probably won't be like that.
Dammit Linus, you released the video too early! Should've released this first video to celebrate 100k subs :D
They actually got to a 100k before they published the video
@@GuggleBum they were below 100k subs when they released the video
@@diddy9810 check their reply under mylittleossi1234's comment
@@GuggleBum ah i see, you can never trust youtube lol
Hearing that hinge open and close brings back nostalgic memories from my HTC google g1 days. What a great phone it was.
To some people that may mean the HTC Magic. I believe that's what it was called in other markets.
@@AimForTheBushes908 magic was the phone after, i had that one. No keyboard but it did have a rollerball which was good
@@chrisbrazier88 oops I think you're correct. Maybe it was the HTC Dream?
@@AimForTheBushes908 name rings a bell
2020: The return of not only the flip phone, but the slider phone. I'm in high school again 😅😭
Samsung S20 Plus Ultra Communicator
and synthwave is making a comeback as well for those that want their life to sound like VH1's I Love The 1980's
T mbile g1:my true successor
*mobile
I'm waiting for phone with telescopic antenna and with detachable camera
NOOOOOO! YOU BLEW IT! You could have had a silver play button with NO VIDEOS if you could have waited just a little bit longer...
they hit 100k before they posted it
You mean like waited 2-8 months longer, that's how long the silver play button takes to arrive to you from China.
@@lexistential they did not, it was 97.5k when I commented and the video was clearly uploaded by then
@@DeeSnow97 It dropped briefly after it hit 100...
@@DeeSnow97 TH-cam sub count display is behind realtime. they tweeted a picture of the socialblade sub count breaking 100k before they went live with the video
Hi Linus! there's another reason to buy this phone, and it's the unlocked bootloader, so I can install things like AOSP Android, Lineage Android (in case you don't like Google) or even a pure Linux Operating system like Sailfish OS! :)
Yes, server administration is one of the main reasons, I have an iPhone and a Pixel 2, yet, I still use my Nokia N900 (yes, the 11 years old phone) because of the keyboard, so I can SSH to my servers and work on them.
Man, there are so many times when a physical keyboard is just so much better:
- When you want to type something without looking at the phone
- When it's cold and you're wearing gloves.
- When it's cold and you _AREN'T_ wearing gloves but you're fingers are frozen.
- When you are sweaty or kind of wet and your gross hand liquids are smearing all over the screen and making the touch sensor glitch out. (TH-cam is especially bad at this. Sometimes I try to just hit a skip button or tell it to play next... even though autoplay is on... and TH-cam likes to completely shit itself if the touch sensor messes up for even a little bit. Even if I completely clean the screen and dry it, scrolling on TH-cam will be broken and if I'm in picture-in-picture mode then just touching the screen anywhere will cause the mini player to fly all over the place. Not even force stopping the app will fix it, I will _actually have to hard restart the phone to fix this stupidity._ And it's ONLY TH-cam that does this, everything else will work fine, even other videos will play in the mini player without having a fucking seizure.)
- When you are working in an environment where you have to wear gloves for safety or protection and the touchscreen sensitive ones are not an option.
- When you want to actually be able to type in landscape mode and see something other than the fucking keyboard
- Certain mobile gaming like OpenMW or emulators that let you map keyboard inputs.
- Wanting your special characters to be in their normal goddamn positions and not wherever the keyboard decides to put them.
- Typing in bright sunlight and you don't want to wreck your battery by putting the screen on max brightness.
- If you don't have little baby Canada hands and not even a goddamn Note screen is big enough for you to reliably only press one key on the touch screen at a time, but you had zero problem with the much smaller physical keyboard on the LG enV2 because tactile feedback.
- You have super callous-y fingertips from guitar and manual labor and touch screens don't always like that when making tiny, precise taps, especially if you have a screen protector on.
- _HAVING ARROW KEYS._ (sometimes, depends on the model. Sometimes it's a little circle D-Pad with an enter button in the middle kinda dealio. Still a definite plus)
- You like being able to feel your inputs and having the buzzer tickle your fingertips doesn't cut it.
First video, he goes into a powerstrugle, fat shaming his underlings.... then drops the device one more time... Aaaah, a true signature LMG Channel 👍🏼
I feel like a lot of people forgot that BlackBerry had the first "gesture" based OS even before Apple.
Palm had the first. WebOS predated blackberry’s QNX/BB10.
@@insainllama yeah palm was first. But everyone did copy iPhone because if apple didn't copy palm, Google wouldn't have copied Apple's
You should've called this new channel "Un-Drop Therapy"
Wasn’t linus‘ first unboxing 13 years ago or some such thing? dunno
Brandon Chutt do you think this will be a problem. What can he do
Unbox therapy views been going down, I still watch every video but I watch more lew later.
I'm so happy this exists
i despise Touchscreen keyboards, after years i still can't type properly
When you're so early that there is still no profile picture on the channel
One advantage I feel is a no brainer: sideways typing. When you do it on a regular phone, the on screen keyboard uses the whole screen
Yes!!!!! This can't be said enough.
Rotation lock
@@BandidoDescalzo does not work on landscape apps (games)
Yes. It's so nice to see chat messages when typing. I even did some coding on my old Xperia Pro. Can't imagine doing that on a touch screen.
What kind of phone and keyboard app do you have?
On my Vivo Nex S and SwiftKey it doesn't use the whole screen. Just 2/3. That leaves plenty of room for the text.
Linus: I'm thinking about retiring...
Also Linus: We're launching yet ANOTHER TH-cam channel!
workaholics gonna work. His kids can wait.
I rather they have 1 with good content, wich sadly isn´t the case for the last 10 videos. been watching since he unboxed things in the backroom of NCIX and for the first time in 9 something years i don´t watch their videos till the end.
Would be awesome for a company to make this design but with a second display instead of a keyboard. Would be skinner, more useful, and customizable. It could easily be made from a durable plastic and i know theres technology out there to basically allow a physical bubble to pop on the screen to recreat a physical keyboard, it just isn't the prettiest on the main display. But on a second hidden display which sole use is for productivity scaling .. well pretty display doesnt really matter.
Aye! An upload before the 100K Silver Play Button! 👏😁
They were close lol
They hit 100k a few seconds ago
@@xe5433 holy shit, they were at 97.1K when I watched this video 13 minutes ago. 🤯
Can we please have a lot of Anthony on this channel? I could listen to him all day.
Yes. We need maximum Anthony
They literally made a current generation Nokia N97.
TBH I wouldn't mind getting something like that, I loved my N97 12years ago, I still have it and it still works.
Although I would love to see a bezel-less 7~7,5" screen with a motorized side front camera on the left and since the fat part that the keyboard is on has so much space, I would love it to be 5000+ mAmp battery. It could be the mid-ground between a phone and a laptop!
That would be a mid groud between a phone and very bad laptop.
I loved my N97 in concept, still have it and it still works. It had some real problems though.
@@phillxor when taking photos with the flash?
Teo Allen Oikonomidis yes, and the GPS taking an hour to get a lock,and general slowness
My dad had a nokia E7 which had a keyboard
This feels like a spiritual successor to the Nokia E90.
This reminds me of Nokia E7. I would love to see more of these in future.
Yes my first thought upon seeing it, very, very similar looking hinge.
@@iceytoa1 yup, same thought. Also I felt E7's display was better tucked in the body unlike this one on video. Meaning E7 looked like one phone but this one like 2 glued together.
My first thought also. Loved my one, worked like a charm.
Nokia N97 is the first phone that comes to my mind
@@VijayaRohithK Nokia design is fantastic but that shit Usb port kills the phone.
This makes me nostalgic for my Moto Droid. The best argument for a physical keyboard is being able to print out a plastic gamepad that snaps over the keyboard that you can use with emulators.
Linus looks like he’s having some actual fun in this video I love the relaxed nature of it
Yes, yes I do want a keyboard on my phone. I miss slide out keyboards. Typing was so much easier. I've been doing it for years now, but I still can't stand typing on touch screen.
"Do you REALLY want a Keyboard on you Phone?" asks the guy who doesn't seem to know how to use a physical keyboard on a phone.
It was nice.
This phone looks pointless this gimmick will not live past this single device
Its not bad, but the price kills it
He also missed what could very well be one of the best advantages of having a physical keyboard, which is physical keys for game emulation. Which is incredibly important with a lot of games.
have use the sony one and nokia one.. yeah old times
I've genuinely been asking for this for years, but I'd still like to see it with true flagship features. This type of keyboard implementation on a galaxy note would be a game changer for me.
Wow, LTT is literally a cult, already 100k + subs
This Channel have been up for a little over 3 Weeks.
It's almost as if people enjoy the content.
TooTallGaming
It is the weirdest thing. You voiced my thoughts so exactly!
I'm missing a physical keyboard on a high quality high end phone sooooo much.. I'm missing the sitmes with HTC Tytn
Predictive typing and thumb tapping on a screen is a mess. It always has the worst issues when you are trying to type something important and tries to force the user to use words only in the softwares dictionary.
I would love it if there was a properly priced phone that had a physical keyboard. I loved my Droid 2 it was a champ and took a hell of a beating.
Give me a phone that is at the same power as the current flagships, add a keyboard and make it durable.
I miss my Xperia X10 mini prom I could type really fast in it and play games
THIS! Droids OG, III, and IV. I wrote books on that thing with no autocorrect necessary,
sadly the market for physical-keyboard-phones is just to small to be interesting for the big players (or anyone for that matter)
no market for such phones
the most you could probably do these days is get one of them tacky keyboard cases
congrats on hitting 100k subs in less than 5 hours.
This account have been up for a little more than 3 weeks.
@@KaeganThornhillTheCyberRaven yea, but it wasn't linked to lmg in any public way amd there was no advertising the channel, the first anyone in the publec head about it was that ltt video yesterday, and it took 4 hours from when that video went live until it had 100k subs.
@@jordanwhitecar1982 If you clicked on their "Channel Page" (aka Featured tab) then you could find it listed among the other Linus channels before the Video was uploaded.
(I stubbled a-crossed it about 2 days)
Edit: But yeah 99.9% People came/subbed here after the Tech Team mentioned this Channel the other day and looking forward to more unboxing videos.
linus: has an xperia phone with the same fingerprint spot
also linus: that's an odd spot to put finger print
Ha! I have an Xperia phone and I was thinking that it's a pretty natural spot on the side.
The second I saw the video title, I though I am buying it. And after seeing the video I am definitely buying it. I had phones with physical keyboards till they stopped making them and I held on to my last one till it couldn't hold a charge for more than an hour. I am VERY glad to see them again. It is very annoying to have to find special characters in keyboard apps. And mobile webpages are garbage. I am looking forward to being able to use a websites desktop version, as I can easily use the phone rotated horizontally.
And I really don't get the problem with things being a little thicker. Everything has gotten stupid thin (and flimsy). I remember cellphones (and portable PC's) from the 90's. If they we are as thick as that they would be insanely powerful and your battery would last well over a week. I say make them thicker there is absolutely no harm in it.
Wow, I hardly knew this was an LTT vid since it didn't have 2 pre-roll ads, with a baked in video ad afterwards, all for a video that was 100% for a sponsored product, with a mid roll LTT merch ad, with two post video ads at the end
Me: *Looks at phone*
“Did they just make a S8 with a keyboard?”
remember nokia e7?
You know, you didn't need the whole "Me:" part.
More or less an s6 with a keyboard
@@RocketAdminAustin No, it's like an S8, as he said, not an S6, the S6 has a physical home button you idiot.
@@NewazEric literally my first thought
"Let me type something up with my little homunculus hands."
Alchemy channel coming soon?
Have u seen the scientific homunculus hands. That joke is honestly hilarious
"the back definitely doesn't feel as nice as the front"
Linus 2020
Finally a modern keyboard phone! I've been waiting for so long!
SF1NX htc dream (G1) laughs in 2009
There's another aspect to remote server admin type stuff that you missed. Does this thing have special keys like control or arrow keys for example? Because that would be insanely useful. Also not losing screen space to the keyboard. I was developing a plugin on my Nextcloud server from my phone recently and that was a goddamn nightmare...phones make shitty text editors already due to lack of buttons, but add an SSH layer on top of that and it's really quite awful. You lose half the screen to the keyboard, then the app has to add a layer of extra buttons above that, so you're typing in a one inch tall portion of screen. And if you want to go landscape? Well... You basically can't.
There are arrow keys you can see them.
It has control and arrow keys
@Amal Joe Abraham if you already have a keyboard on hand its very likely that youre close to your pc so your obviously going to use that.
I have to agree with @Urza9814 , ssh on a phone is a fucking nightmare. this phone could be really handy if you have to do a lot of server stuff on the go. but man... $700 is just to much for that novelty
@Amal Joe Abraham well sure, but then you have to remember to carry a keyboard around all the time too. You *could* get a pocket sized bluetooth on or something (never seen a pocket size wired one) but that's just one more device and one more battery to keep charged....
As for gboard... Without control the arrow keys alone don't help much. Ever use VI or Emacs? Hell, you couldn't even use nano with that... So you still need an extra row of buttons plastered on top of the keyboard by the SSH app (assuming you have one smart enough to add that feature too...not all of them do)
All of these “modern” phones are going back in time and it’s great
Used the Blackberry PRIV for years (this was after the old-school Blackberrys, and after Blackberry had switched to Android) and loved it. Big fan of physical keyboards
"If you know anyone who is yearning for a physical keyboard" ....That's me. I have sorely missed a real honest ot god keyboard. God do I miss my old slider phones. But at that price.....yeah I'll wait, as 2-3 other companies are actually making some currently.
Very interested to know about this 2-3 companies, can you tell about them? I really miss physical keyboards too.
Still have a TMobile G1 and a G2
i miss my N900 so much, still have it and still works amaizingly, but this rice for these specs are ludicrous...
Physiscal keyboards are comingback, as a option. I think that's a good thing ^_^ . From what I know iOS does the onscreen keyboard a bit better than andrioid. Probably because Android needs to get tweaked to a phones particular hardware. I haven't a clue what googles excuse is.
It needs to be a vertical sliding keyboard honestly. The horizontal layout is just soo side. You can't actually type on it with your thumbs.
This phone reminds me of a phone I had about ten years ago. A touch pro 2 from htc running Microsoft Windows Mobile 6.1. I absolutely freakin loved that phone!
Dedicated keyboard worked so smooth. I'm a guy who likes em thicc so I don't mind that either. I'm honestly looking around to see if I can get it at a good price purely for nostalgia purposes.
Anyway, random rant. G'luck with the new channel Linus. Hope this will be closer to your heart
I loved my HTC Touch Pro2 and WM 6.1 was a pretty good OS (for productivity). Until Steve Jobs made everyone think they wanted a keyboardless phone to play music and games on.
Same! :D
I remember my nokia n900. For me: the perfect cellphone: it supported both horizontal and vertical view, lots of apps and customization, physical keyboard and it was slider. Sadly it only supported 3g.
That keyboard spring up mechanism definitely screams Nokia N97.
That is n97 mechanism. I have one in the past.
Or Nokia E7
I met up with some of the team in F(x)Tec. This is based on the n950 which was a completely lovely phone never released.
I think this phone might be handful for people with vision disabilities. They actually love physical keyboards on laptops a lot. They use VoiceOver to read the screen contents (including buttons and so on). You can watch how they type on the phone with touchscreen: they usually use 8 fingers to type and hold their phone upside down.
I love the channel's logo icon.
It really speaks to me.
It’s cool that he is making more vids after telling everyone that he is thinking about retiring.
*thinking*
*Thinking...
I always think about becoming successful, and yet here I am replying comments on TH-cam...
@@malikhaidar lol
like scotty Kilmer
I think he got a lot of static for saying he wanted to at such a young age
I love the unboxing type videos...reminds me of the old NCIX Blonde-Hair Linus. He was a *legend*