Cyclekarts- Incredible tiny race cars YOU BUILD yourself?!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ต.ค. 2024
- Casey Putsch visits Laguna Seca in Monterey California for the Velocity Invitational and visits the CycleKart race. Cyclekarts are small historic racing cars that people build themselves and race all around America on pavement, gravel, and even dirt! Powered by a 4 stroke go kart engine and using spoked motorcycle wheels, people craft them to emulate actual racing cars from history.
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If anyone in the Utah area want to learn more. I have open shop nights at the high school I teach at. Come, learn and drive. Our shop students have 7 done and are building two more this year. We also have set land speed records during world of speed too. A great shop project for both kids and adults.
If anyone is interested and would like to see how to build their own true Cyclekart, go watch Steve Vinson’s Videos .
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Very cool ,,,shop classes are back!
I'd rather participate in cyclekarts than the typical "Mario" Karts. This looks like more fun, more room to innovate and be creative.
I absolutely love this type of grass roots racing, almost like recreating the feeling of the original old school racers that started all, I have to do this some day soon!
There's got to be a Smokey Yunik in the crowd 8 )
Check out the gambler500. If you like grassroots stuff youd get a kick out of the gambler 500. I think theres another one called hoopti ex but dont quote me on the hoopty one
I saw one at the High Desert Swap Meet this summer, that my dad’s friend decided to build one during the pandemic. They look like they would be a blast to build and drive.
Ok, I had to laugh. Here everyone expects a Lykan/Fenyr/Dubai video and you hit'em with the Cyclekart vid. I know it'll be good because I was there, but still- the chuckle was real. 😎
Yep... lol :) next week it gets EPIC!
Glad you featured so many of them! These things are pretty cool. They even went on the big track- that was fun to see.
@@CaseyPutsch Please tell me you have at least one more from Velocity, if not 2.
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Those look like epic fun!
Mid engine Autounion version? 🤔
YUP!
Look up egarage cycle karts they have a video with a auto union mid engine style very cool
@@CaseyPutschA builder in Seattle made a beautiful Auto Union Type C Cycleckart, a real work of art.
You have to do this now. Make your own design! Maybe a front engine one, which would be very interesting to see.
With a body like a Auto Union Streamliner.
Another source for design ideas look at farm tractor hoods&grills
FUCK now I want to build one of them. Well sheesh thank you Casey ;)
What a fantastic class of racing, watched this with my 15 year old son and by the time you read this plans will be well underway to build ours, we may even have to start our own club here in Far North Queensland, Australia, where there are no racing circuits, but heaps of farm bikes and big open spaces. What sounds better than ripping around in a pre war racecar in tropical paradise, doing it for a fraction of the cost, whilst building relationships along the way. Thanks for some inspiration on what to do this Christmas holidays. Hope all is going well in Dubai and that you are driving the Lykan and it's little brother like you stole them mate. Cheers
I get to build these with my high school auto students, it has been a great learning project for them. We where able to set a land speed record on the Utah Salt Flats.
so glad you came across these. I've wanted to build one since the original article in Road & Track many years ago
ive never seen these before, theyre so cool! i bet its a ton of fun
I would love to watch a build.. to see what parts, design details, suspension.. damn, I'm getting excited just talking about it..
Many channels out there about the build. It is very exciting to build and drive. There are some cool events set for 2022. Cyclekarts are have been invited to world of speed out on the Salt Flats of Utah.
Look up Steve Vinson’s Cyclekart builds.
That's something I could actually afford!
I love this! Once again glad I’m subbed to Casey, wouldn’t have seen this otherwise
Now it time to plan and build a cyclekart. It so much fun to build and race.
Maybe that's a way to start a new racing series?
Smaller cars, few rules, smaller engines, keep the costs down.
Have a max track width, max wheel base, max overall length and width, minimum weight, maximum engine size (limited by total cu in volume?), don't allow turbos or supercharging and NOS, maybe a rule such as the solid rear axle and limited to rear wheel drive... Otherwise, go for it. Keep the rules as minimal as possible and allow innovation and keep it accessible. Maybe a few more regarding helmets and other basic safety things. But imagine including pit stops into a series like this too, perhaps? Without restricting fuel carrying, you might opt to skip pitstops to save time, but then you might be running more worn tires, tradeoffs, I don't know?
But by keeping the vehicle and engine size small like these cyclekarts, the engines remain affordable and accessible, and by limiting total internal engine volume, it becomes an efficiency game regarding HP. More people could enjoy and participate in such a racing series across the nation, without needing deep pockets and lots of space or specialty tools.
There already are rules that govern a lot of it (look up Stevenson cycle kart rules), I think there's a general disdain for organizing bodies and the cheating that comes with sanctioned racing in the ck community, so they are looser and not at all tolerant of the type a win at all cost mentality.
Basically, use a 6.5hp motor and keep the look right and you'll be good, the rest is up to you, but they award more based on spirit and looking the part than any type of speed or race winning.
@@bobzdar Yes, I get the concern over sanctioning bodies. Eventually when a good thing becomes successful enough, money and corruption takes over and the sport is then ruined. This happens to good businesses that go bad too.
I would love to see a 2seater class as they were originally available in both 1and 2seaters (of course the 2seaters would need to be given a wider track width but keep the other dimensions
@@dodgeme1986truck when did cyclekarts ever drive on teh road as 2-seaters? Literally NO point in requiring a 2-seater other than driving up cost (more material, need a larger trailer, etc.) for no reason.
@@SoloRenegade 2seat 1915 woods mobilette, 1914 twombly, 1921 carden cyclecar, 1914 swift 2 seater, 1914 merz cyclecar, can't forget the Morgan 3 and 4 wheel models, 1913 warne, 1914 Buick cyclecar, 1920 briggs&stratton flyer to name a few... They were available in a sxs and front/back seat configuration... Easiest I have found to reproduce is the 1920 briggs&stratton flyer
Thanks Casey for getting the word out about Cyclekarts.
That is awesome! I both love and hate the fact you've clued me into them. :)
I love this sort of grass roots racing stuff!
Oh, Sh1t I'm in trouble now mate! I've just joined Cyclekarts UK. Cheers!!
Good luck on you plan and build.
Casey, I saw a few karts belonging to Dennis Thomas. Were you able to meet him? He has many videos going over the steps of his various builds. very great craftsman!
That's Amazing Liking This A Lot And Casey Always Coming What With These Brilliant Type Of Content
Thanks for the fantastic video Casey. And thanks so much for hooking us up with guys at Velocity International, we had an absolute blast at the event. I'm told that we did the First and so far ONLY Le Mans style start in the history of Laguna Seca. The Corkscrew in a CycleKart was a wild ride!
These crazy little karts are a joy to build and share with others.
I would love to see Casey build one of these Cyclekarts, but with styled after the "1954 Firebird" GM Prototype, or possibly building it like Louis Meyer's "1928 Indy 500 winning Miller" that Casey got to sit in for the Photoshoot at the Indianapolis Speedway while driving in the Indy Pro 2000!
That would be cool! We spoke about it actuakly
Looks like fun, and I think it would be more fun building the cars than actually racing them!
That looks like so much fun and all in all kinda cheap. I'd want a roll bar however.
You can build one with a roll bar, no rules against it!
@@bryancohn9406 good to know. I'm use to have roll bar in my toys I do 'stupid' stuff like my Jeep Wrangler for off-road play and BMW Z3 M roadster for destroying speed limits in turns.
Cyclekarts are great and I want to build one and I was going to... but ended up making a half scale lotus 7 instead with a full locost chassis but in half scale material and it is powered by a 125cc 3 speed engine and gokart tires because they fit the scale that I was working to.
one day I'll get back to the original plan to build a cycle kart.
Wanted to build one of these years ago, but didn't have the means. This summer I ended up building a front-engined gokart that looks like a T-bucket using an old wheelbarrow as a body, a Harbor Freight 212 Predator engine, golf kart tires in back and small wheelbarrow tires in front. Maybe I can build one of these next.
Brilliant idea. Wish we had this in Australia. Just a lot of good fun and ingenuity. I’d go rear engine but what ever, it would be a hoot.
I'm from Australia too & stumbled upon this it looks like fun doesn't it would be great if cycle carts started here but the police here are narcs remember monkey bikes or electric MTB ill keep my eyes open !!
So not only this is cart racing good but also vintage looking cool? Signing in!
I've been wanting to make one of these for years!!
Super cool Casey, thanks!
Theeese are so amazing!!! :D Beautiful way to bring back the pre war era race car!
You get all the fun!
Pretty awesome
Now i want to build a cyclekart 🏎...
Очень интересные велокарты мне очень нравится
У нас ничего не разрешено законом😅😢
id love to build an electric one of these. would allow some super low barrier to entry racing as an event.
Biggest problem with electric and racing is you've got to sustain it... so great for the quartermile... but problematic for a trackday.
I'm curious about this now. I thought you either only had soapbox and then rally for cheap. But now I see something that might be fun.
It a lot of fun. I have used this as part of my lesson when teach high school auto shop classes. If ever in the Utah area, swing by my students will gladly let you drive one of their cars and tell you about their hard work.
Thats pretty cool Casey. Good find! Id be really tempted to put a V-twin on one. 😁
I think Chicago should have this instead of the overblown NASCAR nonsense downtown Fourth of July weekend.
Cycle cart ice racing ? With those studded motorcycle tires. That would be interesting.
Are there any groups building these beauties on the east coast?
There’s a group in New Jersey.
Man, if I wasn't so damned old and crippled up, I'd build one of these in a minute! I'd do mine with one of those small Chinese diesels, a manual gearbox, and chain drive, and maybe style it after the Fiat S76 'Beast of Turin'🤣
very cool
Where do you get the rims and tires and at what cost?
I wanted robust high profile yet narrow tires for my front but the price per was nearly the same as the 16hp engine i bought. I had to settle for 18.5 x 6.5 tires (the right height but the width makes it so i must redesign the front end so everything is as robust as the tires and rims. My kart has 5/8" spindles, nuteral caster and camber and i have to change all of that. Including the tubing used in the knuckle and supports -- what a mess.
this looks so fun
Bruh, if i ever build a cycle cart, I'm going to be putting a small block v8 motor in it.
I'm building one right now but I'm decided to yous a 400cc twine frunt mounted engine and wooden chase it's been fun just building so far
These look stupid fun!
No brakes? The drums on most of these looked empty, especially on the front
It is crazy fun. Most are one wheel key/drive and one wheel brake. Still leave a great smile on your face after driving. Join us at next event and I will let you drive any of our shop cyclekarts (built as a high school auto shop project)
@@bonnevillegarage unfortunately I'm all the way across the ocean
Up to the builder - you can put 4 wheel discs on it if you want (and the car you're emulating had them), though it won't do much as there's not a ton of braking involved. Rules are basically use a 6.5hp 200cc motor, keep it looking the part, and the rest is up to you.
I like the dual wheeled design, that’s cool!
There are no clubs or racers near Philadelphia...... man I would love to do this
Does anyone know of any cyclekart groups in South Carolina?
Wow, I have never seen these, they are amazing .... 👍😀
Is their a rule book on how to build a cycle kart? wheel base. motor size excetra?
Make me want to make a cycle cart! Looks really fun
PLEASE BRING CYCLE CARTS TO OHIO WITH YOU !!!!
The coolest cyclecar of all time, would be the Jappic. Tell your wife that a recreation of the Jappic would be a great project.... Learn a bit of wooden chassis building... For a time, it was also owned, and driven by a woman.
So Awesome!
Dude I am absolutely going to build one now hahaha
I looked at building a cycle kart but I already have an Austin 7 and didn't want a bigger car! It's nice seeing these take their inspiration from so many real pre-war cars.
gotta love tha cars one with dual wheels lmao i mite need duals myself lol
Some of them have the engine in the front ! How cool is that for a kart !
Looks like a fun way to crush a few discs.
looks like fun, The Boat-tails!! I wonder how four bicycle hub motors would do on one...
Wild, but cool as hell
😎 Absolutely cool beyond belief! I would believe building one would be just as fun and enjoyable as racing one 🏁 Thanks for posting this video. Good racing 👍👍👍
A few years ago I started following a guy on TH-cam that builds these (Dennis Thomas is the channel name), they're pretty interesting
Glad you got to see the Cyclekarts, wish I could have brought mine up for that meet
Those things are sooo cool!!
I know how you feel about instigating something like this.
I started putting together the route and plans for the Hunstanton, UK soap box racing. Spoke to a mate who was heavily involved with sports for the local council about it.
I moved away, few years later it happened.
I have been imagining building a mini prewar racer for a while. I was running into a lot of dead ends on how to go about doing it and components to use. I just could not believe no one had the same idea. Then I found this video. While I was wanting to do something with a tiny high reving engine and a transaxle, this is a HUGE boost in info that I am not alone in my quest. Thanks Casey! Seriously and sarcastically. You just cost me thousands of dollars!
Love the looks of these. No idea where I could possibly have fun with one though. Making a pedal assisted one up to 25kmh would be road legal though...
Now this is something I can get into
Impeach Biden pass it on
Thanks for sharing this, Casey. I watched them do a display race during Velocity on the Goodwood channel, they look a real blast.
They're like Formula-SAE, but from the '30's :)
This looks like epic fun!
do have theys cars in va
Wow! Amazing!
The Wheels Through Time museum has some original cycle cars that are very cool and worth a visit to see
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hmm...indeed 🧐🤔
Bugatti spirit! 😘
Awesome!!!
Awesome.
HELL YEA! That's awesome!
We need this in England.. LOVE LOVE LOVE
Where can I learn more about this!
Just look for cycle carts on You Tube there are lots of videos.
“Cyclekarts North America” on Facebook
would they allow an ev in?
Yes indeed. There have been a few built and they are super cool.
Was hoping to see a cyclecar on the Corkscrew.
there are a few gopro views of the Cyclekarts on the big track. The Corkscrew was a wild ride!
What is the maximum engine displacement? are transmissions allowed? What type suspension is allowed?