Another great blog from the Pace double act. I think it's really useful to hear Phoebe's positive feedback about her assessment experience, and I agree with Kerry that it is important to try not to use your strategies to get an honest and true identification.
I’m going to see an occupational therapist soon because I fall over everyday, struggle with writing quick, I get my words jumbled a lot and struggle with things like throwing and catching. Hopefully I can get extra time in my exams x
Unfortunately I didn't know that my sensitivity to fabrics was something that could be related to anything else at my assessment so I didn't mention it, but I always cut the labels out of new clothes now as they drive me crazy alongside certain fabrics.
Good luck for tomorrow. Expect to be very tired afterwards so do not plan to do anything taxing. You may just want to sleep or slob out and that is perfectly normal. That is because often the assessment will test things that can be challenging or tiring in order to identify areas that people who have dyspraxia can have trouble doing without aids, a strategy or training. Things linked to fine motor control (writing, pegs in a boards, picking things up, posting things in holes). Gross motor control and co-ordination like throwing, catching, balancing. Executive functioning - planning things, following the process or steps in the right order, doing more than 1 thing at once. Also, memory - remembering numbers, or saying things backwards or remembering lists or things to do. They test and assess these things because most people who have dyspraxia will find them challenging and use a lot of energy to do them or without a strategy cannot do them very well. That's how the assess it by measuring against certain measures. Don't panic though, I can horse ride and ride a bike and a tandem, drive a car, dance My daughters play instruments, trampoline, and my youngest is a great artist and my eldest an amazing baker and flower arranger. We're all different and find our own ways of doing things. Let us know how you get on.
I had never hurd of dyspraxia until our child development team said it could be a possibility.. my son is 9 , has always had issues reading writing and general schoolwork , he can't ride a bik, tie his shoes, he needs direction to get dressed or he will have everything inside out and back to front. he's also still in pull ups for both urine and stool despite being successfully potty trained at 2... he regressed at 5 and its never improved.he's always been with the continance team who think it could be a sensory processing issue .. so we're in limbo compleatly. he's working at a year 1 level now, can write simple sentences with help but if let to do it he can't get further than the first sentence. he litrally needs step by step instructions too do everything.he skips when he runs, can't do his buttons and alwats puts shoes on the wrong feet .they did an assesment for autisum wich altho he shows a few traits we knew it isn't that but somthing is clearly going on. they diagnosed a significant learning disabilility... what does that mean and how can i help him with a lsable like that because its such a huge umbrella? they are swaying towards SPD/ inative ADHD ( I think that's what they said ) , ADD, DYSPRAXIA or all the above. he has a OT apt in Dec. he was also diagnosed with hypermobility again we wernt told what this is ir how we can help.he is the sweetest little boy you ever could meet and I want to help him so badly but nothing I'm doing seems to be making his life any easier. he cant tetain instructions for longer than a few minuites wich gets him.in trouble at school ...at least if I knew what the issue is I can research and find out what I can do but rite now I'm so stressed out, his school are great but want nothing to do with his continance issues and refuse to acknowledge he needs support in school with it unless he gets an official diagnosis.. I feel like I'm.bamging my head against a brick wall .
I'm dyspraxia and I definitely do not see it as a disability and I don't think anybody else should do either, especially considering most of us dypraxics score mensa ratings on our iq tests.
I didn't question it as a disability at all until I started a new job - which relied heavily on those traits common to a 'non-dyspraxic brain'. Dyspraxia is just a different way of being and has many strengths and challenges which often go unrecognised and unappreciated! It does, however, become a disability when people and workplaces/educational environments refuse to make reasonable adjustments (including attitudes) which disadvantage and disable people with dyspraxia. Dyspraxia is not a disability but a poor attitude toward it is!
You have a gross misunderstanding of what disability means. Disability is not a dirty word. I have dyspraxia and I am not ashamed to say I am disabled, at least in parts of my life, proportionately to other people.
Hi guys thanks for your video really helpful. I was wondering if I could get your opinion on something. I always struggled with many things as a child like writing, holding a pen, maths, had a stammer - now as a 22 year old student i have difficulty with following instructions, took me years to learn to drive, getting thoughts on to paper so I went for a dyspraxia test at my university this morning and he said I have a mild learning difficulty, but the examiner didn't really mention dyspraxia only dyslexia. Also, my test was only about an hour long and from what I've read most dyspraxia tests are about 2 - 3 hours so now I'm entirely sure if I have had the correct assessment. We did things remembering numbers and then remembering backwards, reading ability, writing ability, general knowledge, replicating putting blocks into shapes that are shown to me from a piece of paper. ARe the things I have been tested on more geared towards dyslexia as opposed to dyspraxia do you know? Any help would be grateful!
This is a really good question and very relevant. I used to work in the disability service at a university and support lots of students at university who have dyslexia and/or dyspraxia. A lot of universities tend to focus testing on dyslexia with a few "dyspraxia only" tests added. This is due to costs, time and the specialism of dyspraxia. Also, that dyspraxia has less awareness than dyslexia. Your report may come back with a phrase like "dyslexia with dyspraxic tendencies" as they usually cannot formally identify dyspraxia on so few tests. Don't worry though as if they have informed you that you have a learning difficulty this makes you eligible for Disabled Students Allowances and you can apply for funding for equipment and software and study support skills from someone like me. This can make a massive difference to your learning experience. (If you want to know more please email me via our website www.diverse-learners.co.uk - the contact information is on the right hand side). The dyspraxia tests would be linked to drawing shapes, following lines with a pencil, drawing in between lines, writing with your left and right hand. This, is geared towards assessing fine motor control and hand-eye co-ordination that is a key area of difficulty for most people who have dyspraxia. However, don't worry as a number of the tests are equally relevant to difficulties for both dyslexia and dyspraxia. The ones you mention are testing for speed you process information at, memory and recall of information and writing speed so are equally relevant for both and identification of dyslexia and/or dyspraxia. They may have taken your history too asking questions relating to your childhood - riding bikes, crawling (or not) playing sports, tying shoe laces. Also, questions about your adulthood, temporarily losing objects like keys, phone or pens and learning to drive, as ways of assessing dyspraxia traits. Hope this helps. Think this might be a vlog in itself - maybe we'll do this as a vlog.
My mum has always told me I'm dyspraxic but never got a diagnosis? Looking at issues it causes, I feel like I could be dyspraxic and at 18 I'm wondering if I should get a diagnosis..
Yes. Get a diagnosis as soon as you can so you can get the help and support you may need. Don't leave it until it causes further damage to your future prospects, mental health and self esteem. I didn't learn I had Dyspraxia until age 30 and I'm now aged 40, no prospects, still finding it incredibly difficult to reconcile all those 'lost years' if I'd had help at school, college, university I wouldn't be the complete failure I am now.
I always say if you think it will help you and / or get access to adjustments for you Scholl or work life then I think it's a good idea to get an assessment. Some people don't feel the need for a "label" and that's ok too. Each person has an individual set of circumstances.
How can you get tested as an adult if your body has adapted? I have just came across this word in my life and it explains so much if I got told I had this. I was put in remedial classes because of "chicken scratch' writing but was told I had a very high iQ, but was constantly picked on by teachers for my writing and not being able to write quick enough. I can't write without looking at what I'm writing yet I know people whom can write just as good and straight while not looking at what they are doing, is this a sign of DYSPRAXIA, and also when young I was constantly battling with am I right or left handed. Haha. It's a shame if it's dyspraxia that has shaped my life so negatively, but I would love to find out.
Hi there, how do I push for a diagnosis? I've been to the doctor who went through my medical records and agreed that it is highly likely that I have Dyspraxia but then went on about lack of NHS funding, resources etc, so couldn't get a proper diagnosis.
+Joe Cordwell Dyspraxia Action offer help / part funding with assessment for people with low incomes. If you are of working age you can get support from Access to Work without a full diagnosis / identification.
Kerry is the same, she writes with her right hand but can also write and do plenty of other things well with her left hand too. Thanks for your comment.
I'm 38 yo and think for sure I have dyspraxia based on things I went through learning. It took me until 3rd grade to learn reading and writing, learned to tie my shoes in the 5th grade, ride a bike at 11. Also I had poor balance and coordination which I still do. Unfortunately in the U.S. dyspraxia is not as common as dyslexia and if your an older adult they don't care or wouldn't believe you can have it at an older age, plus the tests are prohibitively expensive.
Same here regards knowledge about dyslexia compared to dyspraxia (DCD in the US). Most adults do have to pay privately for an assessment in the UK and it can cost £800+
I'm currently going through a diagnosis for ADHD and Dyspraxia... but it seems like my psychologist is leaning more towards Dyspraxia, but I feel like I relate more to ADHD. I can't find too much information on how *specifically* similar their symptoms are. She also hasn't asked me about any of my sensitivities or physically tested my coordination so I'm a bit worried
Hi Ru, There is crossover between dyspraxia and ADHD, I have dyspraxia, ADD and Sensory Processing Disorder You can have both. In fact 66% of people have more than 1 Specific learning difficulty (dyslexia, dyspraxia, AD(H)D, autism). Here is a blog on my website that I wrote that shows how they overlap www.diverse-learners.co.uk/neurodiversity-diagram-showing-how-dyslexia-dyspraxia-adhd-and-aspergers-syndrome-overlap/
Some people can be assessed via the NHS. Others can be assessed via school or university. Others pay themselves. The cost as of 2021 for a full Dyspraxia assessment in England can range from £750- 1100.
You can get assessed through the NHS as a child most commonly via a paediatrician, occupational therapist and/or educational psychologist. Often need a referral from school, GP or Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services. It varies across England between NHS Trusts as to the route, the waiting time an even if you will get a referral at all. As an adult it can be very difficult to get assessed on the NHS and even less likely if you are female or if you are NOT reporting significant issues in your life that are causing you harm or harm to others. As an adult
Thanks for taking the time to write a comment, we have a video on exams. Hopefully if you do have dyspraxia that you will get the identification before your GCSE's and you will get the adjustments like 25% extra time that you might need. Good luck with everything!
@@kerrypace7245 i have motor dyspraxia. i've always had it. I didn't learn how to walk until like 3 or so years old. ive always had motor skills problems but i thankfully had occupational therapy which helped me with that. I'm 21 now and i don't have many of the symptoms i would say but i still have bad hand writing and don't have many friends and im bad at talking to girls so social situations is a problem...i got made fun of in school...im just thankful for my parents because i know they raised me the best they could. i also have problems with time management but i dont know if that's a symptom of it..anyway thanks for listening
@@mateoslab We love Occupational Therapists. It was a fabulous Occupational Therapist that identified me and my 2 girls as having dyspraxia. Your story is very similar to a lot of people who have dyspraxia. Time management (and a lack of time awareness) is a big part of dyspraxia. We have another vlog called Getting Out of The House on Time that talks about this area. We have 11 vlogs altogether covering cooking, eating . sleeping toothbrushing, anxiety, playing sports . You might want to have a look.
@@kerrypace7245 cool thanks j will. I also struggle alot with wasting time if it makes sense...I procrastinate a lot for example If I need to shower I wasted a lot of time just sitting on my bed etc
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Another great blog from the Pace double act. I think it's really useful to hear Phoebe's positive feedback about her assessment experience, and I agree with Kerry that it is important to try not to use your strategies to get an honest and true identification.
I’m going to see an occupational therapist soon because I fall over everyday, struggle with writing quick, I get my words jumbled a lot and struggle with things like throwing and catching. Hopefully I can get extra time in my exams x
How did you get on?
You two are wonderful and helped me so much
Pre-diagnosis last week.
Thank you so much.
Thanks Judith, how are you doing with it all? You can always email us at admin@Diverse-Learners.co.uk
im getting assessed tomorrow and I’m 22, i wish I knew what dyspraxia was earlier :/
How did it go?
how did tou and where did you get identified
I’m 49 and just found out. Argh. Also wish I’d know too.
Unfortunately I didn't know that my sensitivity to fabrics was something that could be related to anything else at my assessment so I didn't mention it, but I always cut the labels out of new clothes now as they drive me crazy alongside certain fabrics.
Thank you, getting assessed tomorrow but have no idea what it will be like!
Good luck for tomorrow. Expect to be very tired afterwards so do not plan to do anything taxing. You may just want to sleep or slob out and that is perfectly normal. That is because often the assessment will test things that can be challenging or tiring in order to identify areas that people who have dyspraxia can have trouble doing without aids, a strategy or training. Things linked to fine motor control (writing, pegs in a boards, picking things up, posting things in holes). Gross motor control and co-ordination like throwing, catching, balancing. Executive functioning - planning things, following the process or steps in the right order, doing more than 1 thing at once. Also, memory - remembering numbers, or saying things backwards or remembering lists or things to do. They test and assess these things because most people who have dyspraxia will find them challenging and use a lot of energy to do them or without a strategy cannot do them very well. That's how the assess it by measuring against certain measures. Don't panic though, I can horse ride and ride a bike and a tandem, drive a car, dance My daughters play instruments, trampoline, and my youngest is a great artist and my eldest an amazing baker and flower arranger. We're all different and find our own ways of doing things.
Let us know how you get on.
I had never hurd of dyspraxia until our child development team said it could be a possibility.. my son is 9 , has always had issues reading writing and general schoolwork , he can't ride a bik, tie his shoes, he needs direction to get dressed or he will have everything inside out and back to front. he's also still in pull ups for both urine and stool despite being successfully potty trained at 2... he regressed at 5 and its never improved.he's always been with the continance team who think it could be a sensory processing issue .. so we're in limbo compleatly. he's working at a year 1 level now, can write simple sentences with help but if let to do it he can't get further than the first sentence. he litrally needs step by step instructions too do everything.he skips when he runs, can't do his buttons and alwats puts shoes on the wrong feet .they did an assesment for autisum wich altho he shows a few traits we knew it isn't that but somthing is clearly going on. they diagnosed a significant learning disabilility... what does that mean and how can i help him with a lsable like that because its such a huge umbrella? they are swaying towards SPD/ inative ADHD ( I think that's what they said ) , ADD, DYSPRAXIA or all the above. he has a OT apt in Dec. he was also diagnosed with hypermobility again we wernt told what this is ir how we can help.he is the sweetest little boy you ever could meet and I want to help him so badly but nothing I'm doing seems to be making his life any easier. he cant tetain instructions for longer than a few minuites wich gets him.in trouble at school ...at least if I knew what the issue is I can research and find out what I can do but rite now I'm so stressed out, his school are great but want nothing to do with his continance issues and refuse to acknowledge he needs support in school with it unless he gets an official diagnosis.. I feel like I'm.bamging my head against a brick wall .
I have writting problems and it takes me 2 hours to write a page my doctor said I have dispraxia
I'm dyspraxia and I definitely do not see it as a disability and I don't think anybody else should do either, especially considering most of us dypraxics score mensa ratings on our iq tests.
I didn't question it as a disability at all until I started a new job - which relied heavily on those traits common to a 'non-dyspraxic brain'. Dyspraxia is just a different way of being and has many strengths and challenges which often go unrecognised and unappreciated! It does, however, become a disability when people and workplaces/educational environments refuse to make reasonable adjustments (including attitudes) which disadvantage and disable people with dyspraxia. Dyspraxia is not a disability but a poor attitude toward it is!
You have a gross misunderstanding of what disability means. Disability is not a dirty word. I have dyspraxia and I am not ashamed to say I am disabled, at least in parts of my life, proportionately to other people.
Hi guys thanks for your video really helpful. I was wondering if I could get your opinion on something. I always struggled with many things as a child like writing, holding a pen, maths, had a stammer - now as a 22 year old student i have difficulty with following instructions, took me years to learn to drive, getting thoughts on to paper so I went for a dyspraxia test at my university this morning and he said I have a mild learning difficulty, but the examiner didn't really mention dyspraxia only dyslexia. Also, my test was only about an hour long and from what I've read most dyspraxia tests are about 2 - 3 hours so now I'm entirely sure if I have had the correct assessment. We did things remembering numbers and then remembering backwards, reading ability, writing ability, general knowledge, replicating putting blocks into shapes that are shown to me from a piece of paper. ARe the things I have been tested on more geared towards dyslexia as opposed to dyspraxia do you know? Any help would be grateful!
This is a really good question and very relevant. I used to work in the disability service at a university and support lots of students at university who have dyslexia and/or dyspraxia. A lot of universities tend to focus testing on dyslexia with a few "dyspraxia only" tests added. This is due to costs, time and the specialism of dyspraxia. Also, that dyspraxia has less awareness than dyslexia.
Your report may come back with a phrase like "dyslexia with dyspraxic tendencies" as they usually cannot formally identify dyspraxia on so few tests. Don't worry though as if they have informed you that you have a learning difficulty this makes you eligible for Disabled Students Allowances and you can apply for funding for equipment and software and study support skills from someone like me. This can make a massive difference to your learning experience. (If you want to know more please email me via our website www.diverse-learners.co.uk - the contact information is on the right hand side).
The dyspraxia tests would be linked to drawing shapes, following lines with a pencil, drawing in between lines, writing with your left and right hand. This, is geared towards assessing fine motor control and hand-eye co-ordination that is a key area of difficulty for most people who have dyspraxia.
However, don't worry as a number of the tests are equally relevant to difficulties for both dyslexia and dyspraxia. The ones you mention are testing for speed you process information at, memory and recall of information and writing speed so are equally relevant for both and identification of dyslexia and/or dyspraxia.
They may have taken your history too asking questions relating to your childhood - riding bikes, crawling (or not) playing sports, tying shoe laces. Also, questions about your adulthood, temporarily losing objects like keys, phone or pens and learning to drive, as ways of assessing dyspraxia traits.
Hope this helps.
Think this might be a vlog in itself - maybe we'll do this as a vlog.
My mum has always told me I'm dyspraxic but never got a diagnosis? Looking at issues it causes, I feel like I could be dyspraxic and at 18 I'm wondering if I should get a diagnosis..
Yes. Get a diagnosis as soon as you can so you can get the help and support you may need. Don't leave it until it causes further damage to your future prospects, mental health and self esteem. I didn't learn I had Dyspraxia until age 30 and I'm now aged 40, no prospects, still finding it incredibly difficult to reconcile all those 'lost years' if I'd had help at school, college, university I wouldn't be the complete failure I am now.
I always say if you think it will help you and / or get access to adjustments for you Scholl or work life then I think it's a good idea to get an assessment. Some people don't feel the need for a "label" and that's ok too. Each person has an individual set of circumstances.
Helpful..thatnk you!:)
No it's a diagnosis because it's a medically recognised condition.
Well DCD is and dyspraxia became like a common "name" for DCD too.
How can you get tested as an adult if your body has adapted? I have just came across this word in my life and it explains so much if I got told I had this. I was put in remedial classes because of "chicken scratch' writing but was told I had a very high iQ, but was constantly picked on by teachers for my writing and not being able to write quick enough. I can't write without looking at what I'm writing yet I know people whom can write just as good and straight while not looking at what they are doing, is this a sign of DYSPRAXIA, and also when young I was constantly battling with am I right or left handed. Haha. It's a shame if it's dyspraxia that has shaped my life so negatively, but I would love to find out.
Hi there, how do I push for a diagnosis? I've been to the doctor who went through my medical records and agreed that it is highly likely that I have Dyspraxia but then went on about lack of NHS funding, resources etc, so couldn't get a proper diagnosis.
+Joe Cordwell
Dyspraxia Action offer help / part funding with assessment for people with low incomes.
If you are of working age you can get support from Access to Work without a full diagnosis / identification.
I have dysplasia when i was longer i had to shouse what hand i was going to right with, but i can do some things with both
Kerry is the same, she writes with her right hand but can also write and do plenty of other things well with her left hand too. Thanks for your comment.
I'm 38 yo and think for sure I have dyspraxia based on things I went through learning. It took me until 3rd grade to learn reading and writing, learned to tie my shoes in the 5th grade, ride a bike at 11. Also I had poor balance and coordination which I still do. Unfortunately in the U.S. dyspraxia is not as common as dyslexia and if your an older adult they don't care or wouldn't believe you can have it at an older age, plus the tests are prohibitively expensive.
Same here regards knowledge about dyslexia compared to dyspraxia (DCD in the US). Most adults do have to pay privately for an assessment in the UK and it can cost £800+
Physiotherapists too.....
I'm currently going through a diagnosis for ADHD and Dyspraxia... but it seems like my psychologist is leaning more towards Dyspraxia, but I feel like I relate more to ADHD. I can't find too much information on how *specifically* similar their symptoms are. She also hasn't asked me about any of my sensitivities or physically tested my coordination so I'm a bit worried
Hi Ru,
There is crossover between dyspraxia and ADHD, I have dyspraxia, ADD and Sensory Processing Disorder You can have both. In fact 66% of people have more than 1 Specific learning difficulty (dyslexia, dyspraxia, AD(H)D, autism). Here is a blog on my website that I wrote that shows how they overlap www.diverse-learners.co.uk/neurodiversity-diagram-showing-how-dyslexia-dyspraxia-adhd-and-aspergers-syndrome-overlap/
I was assessed at the age of 4
Is there Any online site that might point out that you may have symptoms? Also any online sites that may describe the symptoms or things in to you
+Sabastian Hubble Dyspraxia UK www.dyspraxiauk.com/ have a clear set of "symptoms" and information about assessments.
ive been diagnosed with mild dyspraxia june this year what does that mean for my future?
tanya king A long and healthy life with lots of little mishaps
Do I have to pay for the assessment in the UK?
Some people can be assessed via the NHS. Others can be assessed via school or university. Others pay themselves. The cost as of 2021 for a full Dyspraxia assessment in England can range from £750- 1100.
Does NHS give free assessments?
You can get assessed through the NHS as a child most commonly via a paediatrician, occupational therapist and/or educational psychologist. Often need a referral from school, GP or Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services. It varies across England between NHS Trusts as to the route, the waiting time an even if you will get a referral at all. As an adult it can be very difficult to get assessed on the NHS and even less likely if you are female or if you are NOT reporting significant issues in your life that are causing you harm or harm to others.
As an adult
I'm 15, doing my GCSE's in about 2 months and I am only just being tested for dyspraxia...
Thanks for taking the time to write a comment, we have a video on exams. Hopefully if you do have dyspraxia that you will get the identification before your GCSE's and you will get the adjustments like 25% extra time that you might need. Good luck with everything!
I ha've it my parents found out I had it at age 3
I have dispraxia and I'm 13
I was assessed when I was around 8 or 9
That's quite early, I haven't come across many people assessed that early in my teaching career or personal life.
@@kerrypace7245 i have motor dyspraxia. i've always had it. I didn't learn how to walk until like 3 or so years old. ive always had motor skills problems but i thankfully had occupational therapy which helped me with that. I'm 21 now and i don't have many of the symptoms i would say but i still have bad hand writing and don't have many friends and im bad at talking to girls so social situations is a problem...i got made fun of in school...im just thankful for my parents because i know they raised me the best they could. i also have problems with time management but i dont know if that's a symptom of it..anyway thanks for listening
@@mateoslab We love Occupational Therapists. It was a fabulous Occupational Therapist that identified me and my 2 girls as having dyspraxia. Your story is very similar to a lot of people who have dyspraxia. Time management (and a lack of time awareness) is a big part of dyspraxia. We have another vlog called Getting Out of The House on Time that talks about this area. We have 11 vlogs altogether covering cooking, eating . sleeping toothbrushing, anxiety, playing sports . You might want to have a look.
@@kerrypace7245 cool thanks j will. I also struggle alot with wasting time if it makes sense...I procrastinate a lot for example If I need to shower I wasted a lot of time just sitting on my bed etc
@@kerrypace7245 ya I know, but I’ve heard people getting tested around that age and a little younger too
Im dyspraxic and dyiexic
i have this damn curse.