Hello beautiful people. I absolutely love this conversations about human nature. Here’s the timestamps: 00:00 Intro 01:20 Bespoke Bullshit 06:35 Ideology Makes Wise People Stupid 10:46 The Fading Affect Bias 16:58 Naval’s Razor 21:42 Poe’s Law 26:48 Chris’s Biggest Insight from Rogan 33:54 The Nova Effect & Modern Complacency 53:16 Apatheia 1:04:23 Regret Minimisation 1:12:36 Howard Hughes Syndrome 1:22:33 Deferred Happiness Syndrome 1:27:37 Does Beauty Cause Prejudices? 1:35:43 Alder’s Razor 1:45:56 Where to Find Gurwinder
bias, heuristics etc are surely all more evidence that we do not have agency or free will - summoned up here and his fourth-coming book will be interesting th-cam.com/video/RI3JCq9-bbM/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=HubermanLabClips
Chris, speaking of beauty privilege… considering how ridiculously beautiful/attractive/handsome you are, do you ever get anxiety over whether your podcast is “good enough” or high quality or whether you’re riding a wave of good looks?
Gurwinder Bhogal doesn't seem to get you alot of views but he's always one of my favourite interviews. I hope he gets more exposure and maybe produces some media to legitimize him more in the market place of ideas.
34:42 "good luck / bad luck" is 塞翁之馬 (새옹지마 in Korean) The Parable As the story goes, there was an old man who had a horse - the horse represented all his assets and was therefore very valuable to him. One day, the horse ran away, and all the villages commiserated with him; however, the wise old man simply said “it may not be all bad that the horse went away.” Then, the horse returned, bringing with him another horse, and thereby doubling the riches of the old man. The villages rejoiced for the old man, but he cautioned “Yes, this is good, but sometimes bad comes with good.” Afterwards, the man’s only son tried to ride the new horse, and was thrown from it, breaking his leg. Once again the villages commiserated with him, but the Old Man was calm and reminded them that even in the midst of a turn of bad luck, there may be the seeds for good. Within a few weeks, a regional war swept up the village, and all the able-bodied young men were drafted into the army, and many were killed in the conflict. But, because he had a broken leg, the son of the old man was spared being drafted, and recuperated at home, safe from the wages of war.
In the past couple of years, I've increasingly begun taking the stance that I know nothing. Even my most deeply held convictions could be wrong. In response, I have been sharing my opinions a lot less. Most issues are not black and white. There is nuance in just about every topic and I'm trying to see every issue from multiple (not just both, because it's usually not just two) sides. This was a terrific show. I have shared it with my husband. He said that when my text reached him, he was literally in the middle of messaging me with a vulgar knock knock joke. 😆 I'm glad we have a good mix of cerebral thought and humor.
I can relate so much with you. I used to argue a lot, had to win the argument. Had to give my opinion. Later I realised it was my desperation to be recognised in the group. And now I totally refrain from it. Now I have become the observer. I listen watch and discuss it in conversation with my husband. And I feel really peaceful and happy now.
Norm Macdonald told a story of how he was on a talk show with another guest, who was an expert on international politics and had just come out with a book on the subject. The talk show host asked Norm, a comedian, for his opinion on the subject and weighted his opinion on the same level as the expert. Norm thought this was hilarious.
Depends what caused the pain. The fading effect I don't think applies when the pain is a result of experiencing something that is truly malevolent. Betrayal and torture is very unlikely to become comedy over time.
@@jenniferbaxter7973 High malevolence and betrayal can get you closer to deep heart break personally and of the human condition?? ... this is the doorway to grief and if this grief can be contained ... it may have an opening not yet explored?? the sages since long time have mentioned it as alchemy ... from grief to love. The difficulty is containment, fear of negative emotions ... but these emotions are pointers to what you really care about
That opening statement...blew my mind....now i understand why I made the most incredulous and wrong decision in my life more than a decade ago....great guest
Our mind seeks out information that supports our preexisting feelings, opinions, and actions automatically. To change this bias we must be aware that we do this and actively seek the information which opposes our views, and seek facts with focused determination.
I had a question about two ideas that you both spoke about. One is the idea of moving beyond comfort and challenging yourself in order to grow. If you are complacent and comfortable, there is a kind of atrophy and you become stagnant. The other idea is that of peace of mind being one of the most important things. If you are meant to be embracing discomfort in order to find growth, how are you supposed to be able to maintain any peace of mind? I feel like these ideas might be contradictory. [Contrary to my profile picture, I promise this is a serious question haha]
The dynamic duo ..I love listening to you both ..in this reality of media and government skewed shaped perception your conversations are so nourishing and invigorating...keep going ..love you both
Damn Chris, I've been in the process of bettering myself lately, seriously this time, and your channel came at the right time, all this precious information is God-given! Funny about debating with people, I consider myself open to changing my mind and really getting multiple point of views, but when I take responsabiliy for being at fault or admit having made a mistake, it always backfires. I'm either seen as weak or lacking assertiveness (which I do actually), and it becomes an ego problem. Sometimes it just pushes me to think "man most really only respect dominance, there's no other way to be heard unless you're dangerous or super assertive...."
11:11 - i found in myself, that knowing the true better outcome in retrospect, really altered my stance on past events. But this is far more a product of knowledge and vastly much more experience, rather than altering memories. It all boils down to how aware the person is, and to what degree it hurt their ego and self-worth most likely. And most will feel very hurt i assume.
At 48:40 where Ted Kaczynski and manufactured difficulty is discussed, I was reminded how one of the mantras of our generation a few years ago was "THE STRUGGLE IS REAL" and how, to me, it always felt like we were trying to convince ourselves that this was true.
@Lisa Fenwick I definitely think people were using it ironically. But for awhile there people repeated it so often it almost seemed like we were nervously chuckling at ourselves on one level and desperately trying to convince ourselves on another level.
My personal philosophy on regret basically boils down to something along the lines of, regrets tend to remain regrets until you have found the lesson, until you have been able to extract something of value, some value proposition, from the situation which gave arise to the regret. Until then, it's a zero sum game, you know you have committed some act of folly and have NOTHING to show for it, which puts you in the negative on the ledger of life lessons, which indeed is a regretgful place to be lol
I came to realize at the beginning of the pandemic lock downs that debates are utterly worthless. A conversation can be a beautiful thing, but only when all parties are open to learning. Without that openness it devolves into a debate.
We have alot information, the more we know the more we crave more knowledge. We r greedy for knowledge thanks Chris Williamson for this opportunity. After i watched this video , i feel better in the sense that i have acquired and gained information that i don't know where i could have found. Its very intresting and englighting. This one of the reason i changed my degree from engineer to psychology because i feel like it gives me some kind of purpose. I want to help , educate and advise people in the best way possible. Understanding these concepts can really let me zoom out and look for a greater solution for my purpose. Thanks man!
Fading negative affect bias is existentially terrifying. We are blinded by irrationality and it is the only way for us to survive in this world. Imagine how scary the world is when you strip away your irrationality because our innate sapience can't even fathom the reality our senses perceive, imagine how much more depressing aspects of reality we CAN'T sense is?
Chris you HAVE to get in touch with Geoff Thompson. He essentially went from factory worker to bouncer and martial arts instructor for Chick Norris in order to face his fear, then later to BAFTA winning film and play writer. Very inspirational guy who solved street fighting once and for all before the UFC came about, and has an interesting take on fear, spirituality, and many other topics. Keep up the great work brother!
It truly is extraordinary that people actually think that to admit error is a sign of weakness. Yes I have actually heard a person say that. But but… if you admit error you are not wrong anymore. It is best not to be wrong so the sooner an error is corrected the better.
Better to be wise as you age and learn from others (mistakes or not it's no crime) Leaning on your own understanding and making mistake and learning from your own mistakes is your perspective/ personal knowledge.
As a former nail biter, seeing Chris randomly bite his nails made me feel weird, a reminder of how good it felt but also how it messed up my nails. Anyway.. Hi Chris, great conversation!
"Anger has become obsolete" Hard disagree. The rules we put in place to prevent violence don't work that well, and should not be trusted to always work. + You cannot really disable the feelings of lower self-worth (among others) which result from being stepped on by others.
As far as comedians and there "too far jokes"... That is the whole point. That is what comedians do, they push boundaries. That's why it's funny. This is the perfect example of comedy as a dissected frog...
On happiness and happiness-optimization: You should get Andrés Gómez Emilsson from the Qualia Research Institute on. He has what happiness essentially is (the various forms of it, because there is not one type of euphoria) pinned down pretty well.
in order to grow from discomforts we need resources - otherwise its just suffering on top of suffering and that crushes people and leads to all sorts of counter productive coping behaviours- psychiatric and other prescription drugs and substances like alcohol etc - poor diets, de-pression etc.
I’m not very familiar with Sam Harris’s work, and I’ve seen several comments mentioning that this is applicable to him. Out of curiosity, Could you provide an example?
@@WorldLoreDeux Also, look up Sam's recent Triggernometry appearance, on you tube. Sam basically says, he thinks it is OK to lie about elections, steal them, that he should decide who gets to be President of the United States, not voters.
@XXI THE WORLD Just recently, he was interviewed on Triggonometry, He basically said that it's ok if our democracy is uprooted or that Biden was exposed as a corrupt politician, so long as Trump does not get back in office.
I'm paraphrasing here..."Don't ever write a paper, write something down or speak something you don't really believe in, because eventually you start to believe it." - Jordan Peterson
1:13:00 I'd argue Augustus and Sulla were both tyrannical towards the start of their careers and chilled out towards the back end of their dictatorships and reigns.
1:10:35 This depends on if you are able to control your own destiny or merely EXIST. And the only path open to YOU is to punch a clock under increasingly worse a$$holes your entire miserable existence.
Thank you. Many great points. Still, you are missing the fact that all bad things don't happen because you did something wrong. For example, many people are subjected to violence where they did nothing wrong. In societies, at home or at work. It may also be result of co-incidence or misuse of power or force, like bullying by envious supervisor or bullying at school etc which can be really harsh. Or other severe violence. There can be lot of emotional or even physical pain and you cannot really be sure it never happens again. Many of these experiences will never become funny but may remain painful for the rest of your life.
I wish I had the attention span to listen to every single thing that was said, I really tried :) I’m a therapist and this was super interesting. Anyway Chris, stop doing that thing with your nails 😄
Not everyone he says is correct. What do you think anxiety is about? It's about things that haven't happened yet so it's not true that the present is what preoccupies us. That's just one point. Being in a good or comfortable place, doesn't necessarily mean that you stop striving. That's another point. The news creating fear doesn't mean we are going to seek out more information on that fear producing agent, some people will avoid fearful content. The Nova effect in Psychology is actually called the butterfly effect.
We can only live in the present moment, even if planning for the future we can only do it in the present moment. The past has gone the future has not yet come.
41:19 Unless malevolent actors are involved. Someone you trusted that betraya you completely. Duat yourself off claw way up again and another a hole takes credit for your work, idea whatever. Rinse ather repeat until tou have nothing left to give and no idea which direction to even try anymore. Probably get screwed again anyway. And even if the snakes ALLOW you to succeed in the minors or wherever the "winners" cannot be bothered with caring about, there is a horde of a holes at the finish line ready to tax any success you manage to claw for yourself into non-existence to buy votes of all the losers who couldn't even be bothered to start. Cannot beat em join em. Never beat City Hall unless you have the gold to make the rules.
Nothing insightful to impart. No pearls of wisdom. No alternative views or opinions. Just commenting because I found myself as the first commenter. I regularly and shamelessly seek some sort of validation in the TH-cam comments section. Ouh wait, Gurwinder is Sikh like me so shout out to him.
50:30 “…even if it’s a self-created enemy shadow-boxing an imaginary hegemon.” Well-put. But it’s not a self-created enemy or imaginary hegemon. Somebody else created them for you (some imagined oppressor) and you meekly got on that bandwagon because you have weak character or imagination. The human condition always presents some oppressor-oppressed or some unfair scenario so that well is deep. But when you decide to become a freedom fighter in a quest to dismantle or take down your own society and culture you have then decided you want your own tribe to be weakened and destroyed. Most tribes will take offense to that, as they should. So it’s essentially intellectually tautological self-destruction masquerading as counter-culture or as iconoclasm. It’s socially destructive narcissism that’s self-supporting and itself essentially oppressive. So, you imagine yourself a counter-oppressive to feed your narcissism and it only feeds your very boringly human oppressive demons. Seems like you should spend your life combatting your own demons and supporting your own tribe against those, who both internally and externally, would rather see you dead. Those threats are actually there in real life. You don’t have to imagine them if one can just push back your own (and my own) delusional veil for a moment. Countries have nuclear weapons pointed at one another and people somehow only find time to rail against self-created enemies and imaginary hegemons…all largely a product of modern comfort and complacency. Again, great discussion and this is merely my two cents.
I’m no longer on tik tok but I think you should post short clips of these on there, lotta the people will learn from various topics the algorithm pushes a lot of rubbish
I totally agree with you with the Andrew Shultz guy. He has a huge racist following that hides behind the "I'm just joking bro, what are you, a lame? Look at this guy, we got a . . . Over here"
People don't defend bad or ill thought out opinions because their ego needs consistency. They do it for conformity within their group(pseudo religious cult). To violate that duty of absolute conformity results in a lesser social standing within the group and eventually expulsion.
The vast majority of information is lost if you’re not with the person saying something. Nonverbal communicates ~85% of all information. Words are the other 15%. Video is better but you still miss all of the non visual sensory stuff.
Hello beautiful people. I absolutely love this conversations about human nature. Here’s the timestamps:
00:00 Intro
01:20 Bespoke Bullshit
06:35 Ideology Makes Wise People Stupid
10:46 The Fading Affect Bias
16:58 Naval’s Razor
21:42 Poe’s Law
26:48 Chris’s Biggest Insight from Rogan
33:54 The Nova Effect & Modern Complacency
53:16 Apatheia
1:04:23 Regret Minimisation
1:12:36 Howard Hughes Syndrome
1:22:33 Deferred Happiness Syndrome
1:27:37 Does Beauty Cause Prejudices?
1:35:43 Alder’s Razor
1:45:56 Where to Find Gurwinder
That alder’s razor is almost exactly what i need to cultivate in my madness
bias, heuristics etc are surely all more evidence that we do not have agency or free will - summoned up here and his fourth-coming book will be interesting th-cam.com/video/RI3JCq9-bbM/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=HubermanLabClips
Chris, speaking of beauty privilege… considering how ridiculously beautiful/attractive/handsome you are, do you ever get anxiety over whether your podcast is “good enough” or high quality or whether you’re riding a wave of good looks?
He is great at articulating what we all know deep down at some level if we're honest
Gurwinder Bhogal, to me, has to be one of the precious finds on the internet of late, thanks to you Chris!
Gurwinder Bhogal doesn't seem to get you alot of views but he's always one of my favourite interviews. I hope he gets more exposure and maybe produces some media to legitimize him more in the market place of ideas.
34:42 "good luck / bad luck" is 塞翁之馬 (새옹지마 in Korean) The Parable
As the story goes, there was an old man who had a horse - the horse represented all his assets and was therefore very valuable to him. One day, the horse ran away, and all the villages commiserated with him; however, the wise old man simply said “it may not be all bad that the horse went away.” Then, the horse returned, bringing with him another horse, and thereby doubling the riches of the old man. The villages rejoiced for the old man, but he cautioned “Yes, this is good, but sometimes bad comes with good.”
Afterwards, the man’s only son tried to ride the new horse, and was thrown from it, breaking his leg. Once again the villages commiserated with him, but the Old Man was calm and reminded them that even in the midst of a turn of bad luck, there may be the seeds for good. Within a few weeks, a regional war swept up the village, and all the able-bodied young men were drafted into the army, and many were killed in the conflict. But, because he had a broken leg, the son of the old man was spared being drafted, and recuperated at home, safe from the wages of war.
Thank you! I’ve listened to this episode three times in a row! It’s that good!
Very high signal to noise ratio on this guy - love it! Thanks for another great episode, bruv
Gurwinder is a force of nature. Super legit
In the past couple of years, I've increasingly begun taking the stance that I know nothing. Even my most deeply held convictions could be wrong. In response, I have been sharing my opinions a lot less. Most issues are not black and white. There is nuance in just about every topic and I'm trying to see every issue from multiple (not just both, because it's usually not just two) sides. This was a terrific show. I have shared it with my husband. He said that when my text reached him, he was literally in the middle of messaging me with a vulgar knock knock joke. 😆 I'm glad we have a good mix of cerebral thought and humor.
I can relate so much with you. I used to argue a lot, had to win the argument. Had to give my opinion. Later I realised it was my desperation to be recognised in the group. And now I totally refrain from it. Now I have become the observer. I listen watch and discuss it in conversation with my husband. And I feel really peaceful and happy now.
That's beautiful
Norm Macdonald told a story of how he was on a talk show with another guest, who was an expert on international politics and had just come out with a book on the subject. The talk show host asked Norm, a comedian, for his opinion on the subject and weighted his opinion on the same level as the expert. Norm thought this was hilarious.
I didn't even know he was sick
The person he was talking about is bill maher!😄
Norm image appears in the dictionary under "comedy"
The biggest take away from 26:48 - 33:53 is knowing the difference between things that are hard to get and those which are genuinely valuable.
Your discussion about bad memories vs good memories was interesting. In the Marines we had a saying: Pain is temporary. Pride is forever.
Depends what caused the pain. The fading effect I don't think applies when the pain is a result of experiencing something that is truly malevolent. Betrayal and torture is very unlikely to become comedy over time.
@@jenniferbaxter7973 High malevolence and betrayal can get you closer to deep heart break personally and of the human condition?? ... this is the doorway to grief and if this grief can be contained ... it may have an opening not yet explored?? the sages since long time have mentioned it as alchemy ... from grief to love.
The difficulty is containment, fear of negative emotions ... but these emotions are pointers to what you really care about
Thank you Chris. Thanks Gurwinder. Wonderful job.
I have a hard time finding people with a worldview similar to mine until I found this channel. Thanks Chris for putting the real in reality
I literally cannot keep up with *Williamson's* podcasts; I have several waiting in a queue already!
I feel this way too !!!
Same!!
Awesome content.
Thanks
That opening statement...blew my mind....now i understand why I made the most incredulous and wrong decision in my life more than a decade ago....great guest
This is an absolute gem!
Our mind seeks out information that supports our preexisting feelings, opinions, and actions automatically. To change this bias we must be aware that we do this and actively seek the information which opposes our views, and seek facts with focused determination.
I had a question about two ideas that you both spoke about. One is the idea of moving beyond comfort and challenging yourself in order to grow. If you are complacent and comfortable, there is a kind of atrophy and you become stagnant. The other idea is that of peace of mind being one of the most important things. If you are meant to be embracing discomfort in order to find growth, how are you supposed to be able to maintain any peace of mind? I feel like these ideas might be contradictory.
[Contrary to my profile picture, I promise this is a serious question haha]
The dynamic duo ..I love listening to you both ..in this reality of media and government skewed shaped perception your conversations are so nourishing and invigorating...keep going ..love you both
this channel is so underated .. thanks chris ..
Damn Chris, I've been in the process of bettering myself lately, seriously this time, and your channel came at the right time, all this precious information is God-given!
Funny about debating with people, I consider myself open to changing my mind and really getting multiple point of views, but when I take responsabiliy for being at fault or admit having made a mistake, it always backfires. I'm either seen as weak or lacking assertiveness (which I do actually), and it becomes an ego problem. Sometimes it just pushes me to think "man most really only respect dominance, there's no other way to be heard unless you're dangerous or super assertive...."
11:11 - i found in myself, that knowing the true better outcome in retrospect, really altered my stance on past events. But this is far more a product of knowledge and vastly much more experience, rather than altering memories. It all boils down to how aware the person is, and to what degree it hurt their ego and self-worth most likely. And most will feel very hurt i assume.
God I love Gurwinder so much
At 48:40 where Ted Kaczynski and manufactured difficulty is discussed, I was reminded how one of the mantras of our generation a few years ago was "THE STRUGGLE IS REAL" and how, to me, it always felt like we were trying to convince ourselves that this was true.
@Lisa Fenwick I definitely think people were using it ironically. But for awhile there people repeated it so often it almost seemed like we were nervously chuckling at ourselves on one level and desperately trying to convince ourselves on another level.
One of the greatest podcasts of all time
My personal philosophy on regret basically boils down to something along the lines of, regrets tend to remain regrets until you have found the lesson, until you have been able to extract something of value, some value proposition, from the situation which gave arise to the regret. Until then, it's a zero sum game, you know you have committed some act of folly and have NOTHING to show for it, which puts you in the negative on the ledger of life lessons, which indeed is a regretgful place to be lol
I came to realize at the beginning of the pandemic lock downs that debates are utterly worthless. A conversation can be a beautiful thing, but only when all parties are open to learning. Without that openness it devolves into a debate.
Yes it becomes more and more routine that people are deeply entrenched in their opinions and nothing will sway them.
Brilliant! One of my oft repeated phrases is you can prove almost anything using logic. It's a tool, not a way to truth.
@00:15 describes Sam Harris perfectly.
Even jordan peterson and Dawkins at certain extent if u listen properly
“Reason is not automatic, those who deny it cannot be conquered by it. Do not count on them. Leave them alone.” - Ayn Rand
One of my new favourite podcasters!
Sort of Tim Feriss-esque
We have alot information, the more we know the more we crave more knowledge. We r greedy for knowledge thanks Chris Williamson for this opportunity. After i watched this video , i feel better in the sense that i have acquired and gained information that i don't know where i could have found. Its very intresting and englighting. This one of the reason i changed my degree from engineer to psychology because i feel like it gives me some kind of purpose. I want to help , educate and advise people in the best way possible. Understanding these concepts can really let me zoom out and look for a greater solution for my purpose. Thanks man!
So many "aha" moments in this one, thanks!
Fading negative affect bias is existentially terrifying. We are blinded by irrationality and it is the only way for us to survive in this world. Imagine how scary the world is when you strip away your irrationality because our innate sapience can't even fathom the reality our senses perceive, imagine how much more depressing aspects of reality we CAN'T sense is?
The most underrated podcast is Podcats 516
Chris you HAVE to get in touch with Geoff Thompson.
He essentially went from factory worker to bouncer and martial arts instructor for Chick Norris in order to face his fear, then later to BAFTA winning film and play writer.
Very inspirational guy who solved street fighting once and for all before the UFC came about, and has an interesting take on fear, spirituality, and many other topics.
Keep up the great work brother!
Loved this so much!
Why have I just now discovered this channel. Great vid, love the content.
Oh damn, I barely recognised the guys name, was hoping it was him, he was a legend last time, gonna keep this tab open till I can watch!
It truly is extraordinary that people actually think that to admit error is a sign of weakness. Yes I have actually heard a person say that.
But but… if you admit error you are not wrong anymore. It is best not to be wrong so the sooner an error is corrected the better.
He took a stance on us taking a stance
I have a family member who qualifies for a MENSA card and also watched MSNBC. It makes for interesting conversations.
Oh shit. Lol.
Better to be wise as you age and learn from others (mistakes or not it's no crime) Leaning on your own understanding and making mistake and learning from your own mistakes is your perspective/ personal knowledge.
Thanks Chris, Can you create a 20 minute summary of this post? Thanks
This episode was 🔥just wish the guy had a TH-cam channel
As a former nail biter, seeing Chris randomly bite his nails made me feel weird, a reminder of how good it felt but also how it messed up my nails. Anyway.. Hi Chris, great conversation!
This was thought provoking.
People mistake opinion for knowledge.
Great podcast!
"Anger has become obsolete" Hard disagree. The rules we put in place to prevent violence don't work that well, and should not be trusted to always work. + You cannot really disable the feelings of lower self-worth (among others) which result from being stepped on by others.
As far as comedians and there "too far jokes"... That is the whole point. That is what comedians do, they push boundaries. That's why it's funny. This is the perfect example of comedy as a dissected frog...
This is a long one.
Also love the back ground. Just a dude in his flat.👍
48:23
Ha!
He mentioned the forbidden text.
On happiness and happiness-optimization: You should get Andrés Gómez Emilsson from the Qualia Research Institute on. He has what happiness essentially is (the various forms of it, because there is not one type of euphoria) pinned down pretty well.
Fading Affect Bias is more commonly known as being nostalgic.
26:48 - mind blown 🤯
Brilliant 👍
Great Video!
This is so cool!
Great thinking points! Turning improved thinking into global coordinated solutions should be the goal of everyone. What will it be like otherwise?
Second time listening. Amazing ❤
Third time❤😂
Mark Twain once said it is impossible to tell the difference between good news and bad news. He knew about the Nova effect, back in the 1800s.
Please have on Ross Edgly, he would be amazing to interview.
The talk about attractiveness and achievement brings to mind Gretchen from suits.
in order to grow from discomforts we need resources - otherwise its just suffering on top of suffering and that crushes people and leads to all sorts of counter productive coping behaviours- psychiatric and other prescription drugs and substances like alcohol etc - poor diets, de-pression etc.
“I was the smart ass that told her the truth. Nobody wants to know the truth. Nobody...”
- Rick Deckard (Blade Runner)
"Intelligent people can convince themselves of stupid arguments?" Is this video about Sam Harris? 🤔
I’m not very familiar with Sam Harris’s work, and I’ve seen several comments mentioning that this is applicable to him.
Out of curiosity, Could you provide an example?
@@WorldLoreDeux I read his book Letter to a Christian Nation. It's full of anti-Christian bigotry.
@@WorldLoreDeux Also, look up Sam's recent Triggernometry appearance, on you tube. Sam basically says, he thinks it is OK to lie about elections, steal them, that he should decide who gets to be President of the United States, not voters.
@XXI THE WORLD Just recently, he was interviewed on Triggonometry, He basically said that it's ok if our democracy is uprooted or that Biden was exposed as a corrupt politician, so long as Trump does not get back in office.
I clicked on "53:16 Apatheia," and laid down to listen to it.
But then I realised I hadn't clicked on play.
And couldn't be bothered clicking.
I'm paraphrasing here..."Don't ever write a paper, write something down or speak something you don't really believe in, because eventually you start to believe it." - Jordan Peterson
Hey Chris, can you get Curtis Yarvin on the pod? He's the political philosopher these times desperately need but he lacks a good platform.
1:13:00 I'd argue Augustus and Sulla were both tyrannical towards the start of their careers and chilled out towards the back end of their dictatorships and reigns.
Great vid
1:10:35 This depends on if you are able to control your own destiny or merely EXIST. And the only path open to YOU is to punch a clock under increasingly worse a$$holes your entire miserable existence.
Thank you. Many great points.
Still, you are missing the fact that all bad things don't happen because you did something wrong. For example, many people are subjected to violence where they did nothing wrong. In societies, at home or at work. It may also be result of co-incidence or misuse of power or force, like bullying by envious supervisor or bullying at school etc which can be really harsh. Or other severe violence. There can be lot of emotional or even physical pain and you cannot really be sure it never happens again. Many of these experiences will never become funny but may remain painful for the rest of your life.
I wish I had the attention span to listen to every single thing that was said, I really tried :) I’m a therapist and this was super interesting. Anyway Chris, stop doing that thing with your nails 😄
Not everyone he says is correct. What do you think anxiety is about? It's about things that haven't happened yet so it's not true that the present is what preoccupies us.
That's just one point.
Being in a good or comfortable place, doesn't necessarily mean that you stop striving.
That's another point.
The news creating fear doesn't mean we are going to seek out more information on that fear producing agent, some people will avoid fearful content.
The Nova effect in Psychology is actually called the butterfly effect.
We can only live in the present moment, even if planning for the future we can only do it in the present moment. The past has gone the future has not yet come.
41:19 Unless malevolent actors are involved. Someone you trusted that betraya you completely.
Duat yourself off claw way up again and another a hole takes credit for your work, idea whatever.
Rinse ather repeat until tou have nothing left to give and no idea which direction to even try anymore. Probably get screwed again anyway. And even if the snakes ALLOW you to succeed in the minors or wherever the "winners" cannot be bothered with caring about, there is a horde of a holes at the finish line ready to tax any success you manage to claw for yourself into non-existence to buy votes of all the losers who couldn't even be bothered to start.
Cannot beat em join em. Never beat City Hall unless you have the gold to make the rules.
Nothing insightful to impart. No pearls of wisdom. No alternative views or opinions. Just commenting because I found myself as the first commenter. I regularly and shamelessly seek some sort of validation in the TH-cam comments section. Ouh wait, Gurwinder is Sikh like me so shout out to him.
50:30 “…even if it’s a self-created enemy shadow-boxing an imaginary hegemon.” Well-put. But it’s not a self-created enemy or imaginary hegemon. Somebody else created them for you (some imagined oppressor) and you meekly got on that bandwagon because you have weak character or imagination. The human condition always presents some oppressor-oppressed or some unfair scenario so that well is deep. But when you decide to become a freedom fighter in a quest to dismantle or take down your own society and culture you have then decided you want your own tribe to be weakened and destroyed. Most tribes will take offense to that, as they should. So it’s essentially intellectually tautological self-destruction masquerading as counter-culture or as iconoclasm. It’s socially destructive narcissism that’s self-supporting and itself essentially oppressive. So, you imagine yourself a counter-oppressive to feed your narcissism and it only feeds your very boringly human oppressive demons. Seems like you should spend your life combatting your own demons and supporting your own tribe against those, who both internally and externally, would rather see you dead. Those threats are actually there in real life. You don’t have to imagine them if one can just push back your own (and my own) delusional veil for a moment. Countries have nuclear weapons pointed at one another and people somehow only find time to rail against self-created enemies and imaginary hegemons…all largely a product of modern comfort and complacency. Again, great discussion and this is merely my two cents.
Time stamps are need for the videos
The Book of Laughter and Forgetting by Milan Kundera
Dope.
I’m no longer on tik tok but I think you should post short clips of these on there, lotta the people will learn from various topics the algorithm pushes a lot of rubbish
I totally agree with you with the Andrew Shultz guy. He has a huge racist following that hides behind the "I'm just joking bro, what are you, a lame? Look at this guy, we got a . . . Over here"
This guy is definitely in SLYTHERIN.
You can be happy till someone tells you're not and you believe it.
People don't defend bad or ill thought out opinions because their ego needs consistency. They do it for conformity within their group(pseudo religious cult). To violate that duty of absolute conformity results in a lesser social standing within the group and eventually expulsion.
1:29:10 based true take
31:24 I am full of shit, how much shit do I need to say?! Genuine question.
Could one of the reasons be because journalism is full of lies and we don't know what to believe? So we fill in the blanks.
8:05 eg All men are mortal. Socrates is a man. Socrates is mortal.
1:07:03
Oh? so those books on the "six hats thinking" to see the dark creepy risks of the predators as the black hat thinking?
32:30 nah...why would he understand the dynamic
The intro brought Elon Musk and Sam Harris to mind.
Improvement Pill
The vast majority of information is lost if you’re not with the person saying something. Nonverbal communicates ~85% of all information. Words are the other 15%. Video is better but you still miss all of the non visual sensory stuff.