That situation never happens tho, and even if it did basically any character can take care of it. Multiple groupable enemies means that they’re almost always just going to die to swirls.
Ganyu is why building artifact presets is absolutely necessary; MiHoYo really, really needs to add this feature to the game. If it were easier to swap artifact sets it would be a lot more fun to try different playstyles and team comps, giving us even more mileage from our characters. Thanks for the thorough comparisons. I've had a Skyward Harp sitting mostly idle for a long while waiting for the GOAT, and she has finally arrived! Feeling like it won't be wasted on her at all. I also have a triple crowned Ayaka, so that makes Ganyu a relatively low investment character for me. She was ready to slot in day 1 and is already a super fun addition to my freeze team. A melt build will take a bit more time to optimize (and too much artifact juggling), but I have a pretty good team ready to go for that as well if ever I feel like Ayaka isn't doing enough damage (LOL).
I came from Raid shadow legends and I just keep thanking mihoyo that swapping artifacts is free and doesn't cost tons of money like in raid. and that upgrading artifacts is guaranteed
@@hiparifu6889 it's just the worst. it's so unfriendly for f2p. so for upgrading artifact you had to pay a set amount of silver that will rise with each level. but when paying you didn't upgrade the artifact, but you just had a chance to upgrade one level (chance get lower as the level gets higher). and on top of that the regular sub stat rng like in genshin. and the fact that there was no dedicated way to get silver (=mora here) and it was really hard to. so it was really hard trying different builds for characters and building new characters or swapping items. and that's just it. most of my game playing was just farming farming farming so one day I can try to get better artifacts. really horrible. highly not recommended :D
@Holly if i may help you a little about artifact presets. you can equip the other set on other unused archers/chars, and then swap the artifacts when needed. also to make things faster, you can sort the artifacts set by Shimenawa/Wanderer/Blizzard. This method definitely helps me a lot when swapping between Wanderer/Blizzard set but yeah i agree, i hope Mihoyo will soon implement artifact presets
Yeah it changed my life. When I spent almost 8 months straight with no prototype bow drop then all of a sudden I get 2 in one week after pulling amos randomly from a banner.
I saved a lot for my Goat. I got her C1 with Amos bow. Double crowned her. And now I don't have enough mora to upgrade Amos bow. So I'm currently rocking a lv 90 Ganyu with a lv 1 Amos bow. Overall life is DAIJOBU.
I remember your first Ganyu release guide, your channel has really grown since then. Your HP Zhongli build in 1.1, back when everyone was using him as a dps, got me to subscribe to your channel. Thanks for over a year's worth of Genshin content.
thanks always for making quality guides! i just got her and iam abit confused on her teams and iam positive this will help alot edit: are the qiqi's multiplying or am i going insane edit edit: oh goD THEY ARE
Already have Ganyu since her 1st run but still watching this to get some new ideas on team comps. Currently using the reverse-melt (ShotGanyu) with the same team but the Sunfire team seems fun.
If you dont have Zhongli (like me) you can use Tankfei (c4 Yanfei with prototype amber, max life and energy recharge). Huge shield, even more pyro on enemies to melt, some nice team heals and more pyro battery. Then if you want to switch Bennet for Jean for some reason you still have pyro resonance.
ooh that's good to know! i actually do have zhongli but i was also wondering if there was a way i could use yanfei (have her at c3 and hopefully i'll get a few more cons pulling for ganyu) so that's good to know
For Melt Ganyu, another team that I prefer is instead of replacing Zhongli with Kazuha, replace Xiangling. Then apply cryo to atleast one enemy, place Bennets burst so it doesn’t hit the enemy, and Kazuha burst, swirling the cryo, and getting infused with pyro bc of Bennets pyro cleanse. It sounds complicated but is actually really easy after you play it a few times
Yep this is the team I use and I thought he was gonna mention this team cause it has both a VV shredder and a shield instead of having to sacrifice one for the other, which in my opinion makes it better than the other two variations
Just got Mona and Ganyu on the banner. Literally the two characters I wanted most and the ones that open up the most team variety so I'm super happy! Best of luck to everyone else rolling!
Definitely the best guides are on your channel. None I've seen gives the exact numbers and compares %. Also best showcase comparisons between characters !
I needed this. Been waiting a year on Ganyu rerun after loosing 50/50 on first banner and getting Kequing. I missed the 50/50 again on this banner and pulled a Mona constellation. I went into the wallet and spent $50 to get 40 more wishes(with Crystal bonus) and finally got her on the very last wish after using Paimons shop to get a few extra wishes. I put my R3 Amos Bow on her after maxxing her out and now she's one of my best damage dealers(even though my artifacts need a little work). Now I'd I miss Yae Mikos 50/50 I'm gonna be super pissed I can no longer get the bonus crystals unless I buy the $100 pack(not likely). Thanks for the video!
I was saving for yae but since I wanted Stardust i pulled and ofc I had to get ganyu i even have Amos bow but i rlly wanted yae so now I have very low chance of getting her and there's 50/50 . :(
@@zking07 meanwhile me: I am f2p, and i got Ganyu, Zhong Li, Jean and a just fun 10 pull I got Qiqi. This happened all within 50 pulls. And then this means that I have gotten 6 five-stars within 20 pity in a row.
Yeah I agree that Pyro resonance melt is the most comfortable, running Kazuha and Bennett even with the proper ER doesn’t feel as nice of uptime considering you can use Xianling Q then her E after the duration for consistent melts
Got her at 74 pity, not bad.😅 Since I'm fully prepared for her, she's now at max level with 10/9/9 talents and equipped with Amos' bow. For those who still didn't got her, I hope you will get our fav cocogoat before her banner ends.🥰
I am so jealous of your ATK% Wanderers Time Pieces. I have been playing since day 1, and even feed artifacts into the rando-artifact-box and still can't get an ATK% time piece with both crits.
very interesting, I have Ganyu from D1 and I have always used the skyward harp I didn't think it was so much inferior to the amos bow, I hope to find it as soon as possible because despite all the time I spent playing with Ganyu I still enjoy her a lot my f2p build 61% c.rate (+ 20%) 207% c.dmg 201 EM 2246 atk 4 wanderers
Really informative video. I just would've really liked to see an optimal freeze team rotation. As someone who has also barely used Mona, it's hard to tell in what order things need to go, if I use Mona's or Ganyu's skill and when, when/what should be swirled, and who should be holding the TTDS (right now I only have Sucrose until Kazuha or Venti get a rerun).
TLDR : Wanderer's Troupe is her best overall set. Blizzard Strayer is her best set strictly in freeze comps. Shimenewa is as good as WT but very restrictive. Amos Bow is the Best weapon overall unless in niche cases, in which polar star is better. C0 Ganyu is all you need. If you are not a GIGAWHALE and still want to invest in Ganyu's constellations : C1 is where you should stop at. If you are a whale : C6. Ganyu is still one of the best characters in the game even after 1 year of her release. Stats fishing Priority : Melt (Wanderer's Troupe): 1- CR. 2-CD. 3-EM. 4-ATK% (not really). // Freeze (Blizzard Strayer): 1- CD. 2-ATK %. 3- CR. 4- ER. For Melt Ganyu : Ideal stats : 70% CR && 200% CD && as much EM as you can fit in. For Freeze Ganyu : 25-30% MAX for CR && as much CD and ATK % as you can get while maintaining 25% CR.
For 4-star bow, which one do you think is worth crafting considering many enemies now don't have weakspot, the crescent bow or hamayumi? Also, is it worth crafting any of them when I only have 2 billet and have an R1 Viridescent? Thanks~ (I have good WT C.Dmg set and planning to try out melt comp)
@@adisetyadi39 if you are strictly melt then hanayumi if you still want to play freeze just use crescent since you will still have situation where you ca hit weak spot while the hanayumi is useless in freeze
@@adisetyadi39 yesterday i crafted Hamayumi just in case i can get Ganyu this week. You already know that no boss has weak points lately so crafting Prototype Cresent is not really recomended especialy aiming weak points is very hard in mobile version. I mean yeah Hamayumi is better.
@@adisetyadi39 Go with Hamayumi if you are running melt. Hamayumi is better than Viridescent even at R1, since you have 2 billets you should get R2 Hamayumi
Looks like I pulled Ganyu at the perfect time! First 10 pull got a 5star lost 50/50 to a Mona con (not even mad I love Mona) then 50 wishes later Ganyu came home! Thanks for the guides!
I personally think blackcliff's more useful in the abyss since it's quite easy to get 2 stacks. 42-72% att bonus for 30sec is quite good, along with the highest base attack
Nope since those smol enemies are easy af the harder ones are the single big bosses like array, if its situational like that then its maybe even worse than prototype crescent
For sure! It's annoying to cannibalize my commission squad artifacts for specialized abyss teams, especially this abyss where you might build different teams for each chamber. Also, let me change loadouts from the abyss screen Q_Q
I have Diona c6, the Elegy bow, and nobless which means her ult gives 300 EM 40% attk Her team is Ayaka Xingling Bennett The fastest times ever using c0 main dps.
If you have the characters i feel like mono cryo is way to underrated, it is so much fun playing a more quick swap style with ganyu ayaka shenhe and diona. You can easily play shime set with just e.g activate ganyu q into diona eq into shenhe qe into ayaka q into e and then you swap into ganyu and have enough energy to e use shimenawa. Personally i find it really fun to play :D
For melt ganyu, I often replace Zhongli (Ganyu Bennett Xiangling Zhongli) with C6 Diona in case I want to use him in the other half (esp for Hu Tao or Xiao). Not only Diona's burst can provide 200 EM for Ganyu, it also does not ruin the melt reactions for ganyu at all. Very recommended!
I tried for the 50/50 and told myself ill stop if i dont get her. Actually won it for once! And then the fates from her ascensions gave me an amos from the standard! Time to master bow on mobile
Playing on mobile is not as hard as people make it seem. If your device is not a potato, she's smooth as butter to play ~A fellow mobile ganyu main and congrats on getting her
i love your videos so much!! they are helpful AND entertaining. I just got my Ganyu and I feel so torn with which teamcomp I should go, so this comparison is realllyyy good
very nice guide, i do think Zhongli Kazuha Bennett Ganyu as a melt team should have been mentioned. Kazuha giving the double buffs to cryo/pyro, and then swirling pyro with his ult allows Ganyu to melt and can give the highest theoretical DPS (without needing XL) while still being comfortable to play.
Yes, more personal damage for Ganyu if your XL is not invested. Problem is if you can’t 1-round, then you have to use a lot of time recharging Kazuha Burst. XL has better Burst uptime (Bennett pyro funnel)… and Gouba after Burst ends for extended melts. As bonus you can reposition Gouba, and Favonious Bennett burst is usually up with 1 Skill for the optimal damage.
@@verymental6999 ya good point. def depends on individual ERs and # of enemies - my kazu at c2 with 160 ER not really an issue getting burst back most of the time
@@gammaxten Yarp. Although this Abyss 12 is nearly a boss rush, and very unfriendly to melt/reverse melt for my teams, because of enemy movement.. and very few particles on A-side. Raiden National is just flying with the normals buff and carrying B-side (I hate B-side this time around).
The new CN Morgana variant is actually insane: Ganyu, Mona, Venti, and Rosaria!!!! U can literally just press skills and not move at all in some cases. It's so fun.
Well, now at 70 pity, i am trying to get every primogem possible to, i hope, win the 50/50 and get her. Have been preparing everything necessary to upgrade her for weeks, so i hope this guide will become useful
I dont see people mentioning and there is no info in the video about it, BUT _____ with SKYWARD HARP you do better damage using ATK circlet (that can have both crit substats) and you loose out only on the amos passive (12 + 8*5 % bonus). You can achieve the same crit ratio as with amos bc you trade: - AMOS -> (49%atk + 62%cd + whatever cr% you have /8%?/) - - - ~80 Crit Value / 608 Base ATK - HARP -> (46%atk + 22%cr + 20%cd + cr/cd on atk circlet /6cr+20cd?/) - - - ~100 Crit Value / 674 Base ATK So the point is you loose only the passive charged bonus part. Thank for coming to my ted talk >,
Small request to IWinToLose Gaming. Mind to make detailed updated guide about 4 stars characters but this time in a form of 2 videos for each character. For example : 1- Xingqiu ( Elemental skill build and elemental burst build) both in different videos along with EM vs attack build. Many people including me can't decide if either are good or not. such questions rise such as : If I use (Yoimiya, Hu Tao etc) with Xingqiu Burst, how I get maximum damage from his burst? I hope you consider such videos in the future. Thanks a lot for your support. wish you health and happiness both in and outside the game.
Fun fact but not really: I waited to pull for Ganyu to use her passive and craft the prototype Crescent I got her yesterday and put her lvl 90, then rushed to the blacksmith to craft the bow .. turns out I forgot to switch to Ganyu
Oof, happened to me too...passives like Ganyu's, Zhongli's or Diluc's are already very very situational...and if somehow we even forget that one time when the passive is actually applicable, that just feels so bad...I wonder when there'll be more Characters with passives similar to Childe...
@@lil_toro yeah, it is pretty sad that they are rarely usable, and even more when you finally have a chance to use it and forget about it lol I don't know what Childe's passive is
@@serguenedouard586 increases the entire party's and his own AA level by 1...if you have a Ganyu with Lvl.9 AA, and you put her in the same party with Childe, he basically crowns the AA for you, and if it's already on lvl 10, he boosts it to 11.
I thought i am watching a ganyu guide from a different channel... i like the way you show us now what its like while explaining just like what you did on ganyu's charge attack.
Just a side note* your flying Qiqi’s got in the way of your graphs a lot. Maybe limit should be 1. Kind of like how often we should get Qiqi in the first place. (Only once)
You accidentally forgot to account for the 5% base crit rate on each character, so you would have 80% cr on ganyu with 4p bs and cyro res (5% + 15% +20% +40%) Also, what do you think about the ganyu melt comp ganyu, kazhu, zhongli, and Bennett. This comp doesn't have much energy problems, as only Bennett and kazuha ults are important, Bennett is a great battery for himself, and kazuha is a great battery for himself too(especially with sac sword)+ this comp also has zhongli sheild The rotations would be zhongli e, ganyu e, kazuha e, Bennett e, Bennett ult, kazuha ult, then ganyu charge spam. Or for more energy efficiency, zhongli e, Bennett ult(without hitting enemies), ganyu e ,kazuha hold e(for more energy), ult (to infuse pyro from Bennett ult, ganyu charge spam
thankyou for this, got ganyu on her re run and that's my first time playing the game and never thought of this freeze build. and by far, without knowing that build, i am currently gearing her along that path. tho i kind of almost short on materials, her being strong makes farming feel a bit easy.
Man I really needed this info on polar star, Amos and polar star are officially equal to me now. Considering burst and E damage bonuses are many and multiple instances of damage whereas blooms your only doing 2-3 assuming the difference in blooms in that many shots is 5-15000 dmg difference the Q alone does 830x8-10 times almost 8000 then e damage on both ticks. Essentially equal damage or negligible difference. Ah and I’m referring to R1 in both instances based off your chart. THANK YOU seriously !
Almost 2 weeks late to this video, I've been using melt ganyu before anyone has talked about it (I don't have Morgana), and the team is very good for my months of experience with it.
Hey, You can lower Bass in audio cause it's super strong and lowers quality. Old videos were not that boom xD btw.: perfect quick and simple all konwledge about Ganyu I'm impressed :P
As a returning player in 2023 who stopped playing in like 1:2 - thanks for this video. Pulled a Ganyu and I have a Bennet and Xin so I can build a team. Will probably use Jane cause I don’t have the shield guy
"Ganyu has too many builds"
me who prepared 3 separate builds for her: yes, agree.
I have 2 builds and I keep switching them for fun lol
Freeze Melt and Im guessing the other one is mono cryo with Shenhe?
What's the third
Plot twist: the third build is Physical Ganyu
@@serezelveydawn maybe support build
Thanks for adding the rotating QIqi
*My flashbacks to getting C2 Qiqi feels good :D*
C4 qiqi here
Go for nana c6 👍✊
Ok
Yep
I’m at c2 too
3:22 It’s 50 icicles.
5 icicles every cycle. Each cycle lasts 1.5 seconds. Total damage with grouped enemies with Venti = 5 * 10 * icicle multiplier.
That situation never happens tho, and even if it did basically any character can take care of it. Multiple groupable enemies means that they’re almost always just going to die to swirls.
unrelated but FYI, if you are playing on mobile, the 30fps will reduce the number of icicles
@@AraKlet wow, that's suck
First it's already hard aiming on mobile, then you get reduced icecle because of the limited fps??
though on mobile you can shoot faster since you automatically move out of aimed mode when you shoot, rather than having to sprint and press r again
@@sorry9861 can't you jsut hold the attack
Your voice feels more human in this video for some reason, also thanks for doing a guide for Ganyu
He sounds pretty happy and I’m all in for it :)
It’s coz he’s not reading a script
Fr like what happened
LMFAO "HUMAN". He does sound pretty upbeat so maybe that's why
Oh no, the A.I is perfectly mimicking human behaviour
Ganyu is why building artifact presets is absolutely necessary; MiHoYo really, really needs to add this feature to the game. If it were easier to swap artifact sets it would be a lot more fun to try different playstyles and team comps, giving us even more mileage from our characters.
Thanks for the thorough comparisons. I've had a Skyward Harp sitting mostly idle for a long while waiting for the GOAT, and she has finally arrived! Feeling like it won't be wasted on her at all. I also have a triple crowned Ayaka, so that makes Ganyu a relatively low investment character for me. She was ready to slot in day 1 and is already a super fun addition to my freeze team. A melt build will take a bit more time to optimize (and too much artifact juggling), but I have a pretty good team ready to go for that as well if ever I feel like Ayaka isn't doing enough damage (LOL).
I came from Raid shadow legends and I just keep thanking mihoyo that swapping artifacts is free and doesn't cost tons of money like in raid.
and that upgrading artifacts is guaranteed
@@איתיאלדן woah, can you explain the system a bit more? I've never heard of anything like that
@@hiparifu6889 it's just the worst. it's so unfriendly for f2p. so for upgrading artifact you had to pay a set amount of silver that will rise with each level. but when paying you didn't upgrade the artifact, but you just had a chance to upgrade one level (chance get lower as the level gets higher). and on top of that the regular sub stat rng like in genshin. and the fact that there was no dedicated way to get silver (=mora here) and it was really hard to. so it was really hard trying different builds for characters and building new characters or swapping items. and that's just it. most of my game playing was just farming farming farming so one day I can try to get better artifacts. really horrible. highly not recommended
:D
@@איתיאלדן that sounds like a really unhealthy game to play, and the money spending issue must be the worst, thanks for telling us :)
@Holly if i may help you a little about artifact presets. you can equip the other set on other unused archers/chars, and then swap the artifacts when needed. also to make things faster, you can sort the artifacts set by Shimenawa/Wanderer/Blizzard. This method definitely helps me a lot when swapping between Wanderer/Blizzard set
but yeah i agree, i hope Mihoyo will soon implement artifact presets
To anyone wondering, pulling for Ganyu is highly recommended.
Her 15% returns on crafting bows is a real game-changer!
Yeah it changed my life. When I spent almost 8 months straight with no prototype bow drop then all of a sudden I get 2 in one week after pulling amos randomly from a banner.
I have Ganyu but my Diluc gets more use because bows are non-existent in my world. I have gotten 1 blueprint to drop in 6 months of playing.
I saved a lot for my Goat. I got her C1 with Amos bow. Double crowned her. And now I don't have enough mora to upgrade Amos bow. So I'm currently rocking a lv 90 Ganyu with a lv 1 Amos bow. Overall life is DAIJOBU.
I need this goat
literally same i had no self control
Do leylines or buy mora in the shop? Quests etc you can do it!
Lvl 65 ganyu, lvl 88 Amos bow atm
Lvl 90 Amos Lvl 90 Ganyu with triple crowned but to be fair I got Amos 4 months ago and started saving for her after I got Yoimiya
I remember your first Ganyu release guide, your channel has really grown since then. Your HP Zhongli build in 1.1, back when everyone was using him as a dps, got me to subscribe to your channel. Thanks for over a year's worth of Genshin content.
This scriptless guide felt amazing. Not only is PACKED with info but it also looks like you're having a good time
thanks always for making quality guides! i just got her and iam abit confused on her teams and iam positive this will help alot
edit: are the qiqi's multiplying or am i going insane
edit edit: oh goD THEY ARE
Really loving how casual this voicing feels. It’s so soothing while still being stuffed with information!
I've been waiting for her rerun for a year, I finally got her and I'm having a blast
Already have Ganyu since her 1st run but still watching this to get some new ideas on team comps. Currently using the reverse-melt (ShotGanyu) with the same team but the Sunfire team seems fun.
If you dont have Zhongli (like me) you can use Tankfei (c4 Yanfei with prototype amber, max life and energy recharge). Huge shield, even more pyro on enemies to melt, some nice team heals and more pyro battery. Then if you want to switch Bennet for Jean for some reason you still have pyro resonance.
ooh that's good to know! i actually do have zhongli but i was also wondering if there was a way i could use yanfei (have her at c3 and hopefully i'll get a few more cons pulling for ganyu) so that's good to know
"max life" sounds so weird
Tankfei💀
What if no Zhongli and no C4 Yanfei?
Diona is your best bet then
For Melt Ganyu, another team that I prefer is instead of replacing Zhongli with Kazuha, replace Xiangling. Then apply cryo to atleast one enemy, place Bennets burst so it doesn’t hit the enemy, and Kazuha burst, swirling the cryo, and getting infused with pyro bc of Bennets pyro cleanse. It sounds complicated but is actually really easy after you play it a few times
Yep this is the team I use and I thought he was gonna mention this team cause it has both a VV shredder and a shield instead of having to sacrifice one for the other, which in my opinion makes it better than the other two variations
Do you think that ganyu,kazuha,bennett,zhongli will deal more damage than ganyu,xiangling,bennett,zhongli?
@@fear2787 from what I saw on a different video, it does
Alright, thanks for the idea. I'll try it :)
New to game here and just pulled her. Really appreciative of your effort here. Thanks much!
ayyy zhao my guy
ayy congrats :)
Same I started this year & luckily won 50/50 on her
Just got Mona and Ganyu on the banner. Literally the two characters I wanted most and the ones that open up the most team variety so I'm super happy! Best of luck to everyone else rolling!
I got only ganyu but no mona :(
Definitely the best guides are on your channel. None I've seen gives the exact numbers and compares %. Also best showcase comparisons between characters !
Thank u for this, I literally just got her a few seconds ago so I’m glad u made this guide. Thank u again
just when i needed this. thank you
I needed this. Been waiting a year on Ganyu rerun after loosing 50/50 on first banner and getting Kequing. I missed the 50/50 again on this banner and pulled a Mona constellation. I went into the wallet and spent $50 to get 40 more wishes(with Crystal bonus) and finally got her on the very last wish after using Paimons shop to get a few extra wishes. I put my R3 Amos Bow on her after maxxing her out and now she's one of my best damage dealers(even though my artifacts need a little work). Now I'd I miss Yae Mikos 50/50 I'm gonna be super pissed I can no longer get the bonus crystals unless I buy the $100 pack(not likely). Thanks for the video!
I had 40wishes saved (5 from the shop) was at 69 pity. Got a 5star in the first 10pull lost to keqing. Than on the 3rd 10pull got ganyu
@@zking07 nice
I was saving for yae but since I wanted Stardust i pulled and ofc I had to get ganyu i even have Amos bow but i rlly wanted yae so now I have very low chance of getting her and there's 50/50 . :(
@@zking07 meanwhile me:
I am f2p, and i got Ganyu, Zhong Li, Jean and a just fun 10 pull I got Qiqi. This happened all within 50 pulls. And then this means that I have gotten 6 five-stars within 20 pity in a row.
@@zking07 And yes, im gonna flex om evryone i know
I was wondering if Qiqi was going to multiply again. I was overjoyed to see she did.
Yeah I agree that Pyro resonance melt is the most comfortable, running Kazuha and Bennett even with the proper ER doesn’t feel as nice of uptime considering you can use Xianling Q then her E after the duration for consistent melts
Got my ganyu for the first time. Thanks for this :)
Got her at 74 pity, not bad.😅 Since I'm fully prepared for her, she's now at max level with 10/9/9 talents and equipped with Amos' bow. For those who still didn't got her, I hope you will get our fav cocogoat before her banner ends.🥰
Yeah I also got her at 78 pity but for now I guess prototype crescent will do
Got her in 21 single pulls 🤩
I am so jealous of your ATK% Wanderers Time Pieces. I have been playing since day 1, and even feed artifacts into the rando-artifact-box and still can't get an ATK% time piece with both crits.
Same, I also need a good circlet 😭
Its my off piece because I also dont have an atk% time piece with crits
pov: you’re staring at qiqi vibing at the bottom of the screen
Ty for the guide! I just pulled Ganyu last night so I'm super excited about building her!
very interesting, I have Ganyu from D1 and I have always used the skyward harp I didn't think it was so much inferior to the amos bow, I hope to find it as soon as possible because despite all the time I spent playing with Ganyu I still enjoy her a lot
my f2p build
61% c.rate (+ 20%)
207% c.dmg
201 EM
2246 atk
4 wanderers
It is in charged shot dmg but in her main team for freeze(Morgana) it’s actually better.
been waiting for this one, thanks!!
Another great and high quality guide 🔥💯
Really informative video. I just would've really liked to see an optimal freeze team rotation. As someone who has also barely used Mona, it's hard to tell in what order things need to go, if I use Mona's or Ganyu's skill and when, when/what should be swirled, and who should be holding the TTDS (right now I only have Sucrose until Kazuha or Venti get a rerun).
TLDR :
Wanderer's Troupe is her best overall set.
Blizzard Strayer is her best set strictly in freeze comps.
Shimenewa is as good as WT but very restrictive.
Amos Bow is the Best weapon overall unless in niche cases, in which polar star is better.
C0 Ganyu is all you need.
If you are not a GIGAWHALE and still want to invest in Ganyu's constellations : C1 is where you should stop at.
If you are a whale : C6.
Ganyu is still one of the best characters in the game even after 1 year of her release.
Stats fishing Priority :
Melt (Wanderer's Troupe):
1- CR.
2-CD.
3-EM.
4-ATK% (not really).
//
Freeze (Blizzard Strayer):
1- CD.
2-ATK %.
3- CR.
4- ER.
For Melt Ganyu :
Ideal stats : 70% CR && 200% CD && as much EM as you can fit in.
For Freeze Ganyu :
25-30% MAX for CR && as much CD and ATK % as you can get while maintaining 25% CR.
For 4-star bow, which one do you think is worth crafting considering many enemies now don't have weakspot, the crescent bow or hamayumi? Also, is it worth crafting any of them when I only have 2 billet and have an R1 Viridescent? Thanks~
(I have good WT C.Dmg set and planning to try out melt comp)
@@adisetyadi39 if you are strictly melt then hanayumi if you still want to play freeze just use crescent since you will still have situation where you ca hit weak spot while the hanayumi is useless in freeze
@@adisetyadi39 yesterday i crafted Hamayumi just in case i can get Ganyu this week. You already know that no boss has weak points lately so crafting Prototype Cresent is not really recomended especialy aiming weak points is very hard in mobile version. I mean yeah Hamayumi is better.
@@adisetyadi39 Go with Hamayumi if you are running melt.
Hamayumi is better than Viridescent even at R1, since you have 2 billets you should get R2 Hamayumi
This is definitely not enough crit for freeze. Extremely copium
Thanks best review so far loved the depth and the specific numbers
IWinToLose: The 60% crit rate on my Wanderer’s Troupe is too low.
Me: Ah yes, this 40% crit rate should be enough 😌
I have 12 and im alr gleeful SMH
28 minutes guide for greatest of all time Ganyu. I'll do it for ganyu
i see what you did there
Looks like I pulled Ganyu at the perfect time! First 10 pull got a 5star lost 50/50 to a Mona con (not even mad I love Mona) then 50 wishes later Ganyu came home!
Thanks for the guides!
Mee too.
Mona at 80th and Ganyu at 60th.
It was expensive but it's worth it!! 😉
Thank You For this video
Eagerly waited for this
I personally think blackcliff's more useful in the abyss since it's quite easy to get 2 stacks.
42-72% att bonus for 30sec is quite good, along with the highest base attack
The big single bosses in abyss don't tend to have weak points so ends up equally bad as PtCresent
This is situational.
That's why you keep Hamayumi instead. No conditions, unless you need to run freeze comp
Nope since those smol enemies are easy af the harder ones are the single big bosses like array, if its situational like that then its maybe even worse than prototype crescent
@@msk.y just get amos ez
You can replace Xiangling with Kazuha in the first Melt team you recommended.
I wish Genshin would let you save builds. I like to use an Ult-spam build for Spiral Abyss but changing it is such an annoyance 🥴
Equip the alternative set to someone you don't ever use then only switch artefacts with that character… that's what I do
you can put Aloy to good use as your Ganyu's wardrobe :)
For sure! It's annoying to cannibalize my commission squad artifacts for specialized abyss teams, especially this abyss where you might build different teams for each chamber. Also, let me change loadouts from the abyss screen Q_Q
@@sayyenkhu6422 what difference does it make, u still gotta switch it one by one
@@kittenmimi5326 more easy
u can also use diona as a shielder and healer for ganyu and if u have her c6, then u can have additional 200 em which is incredible for the melt team
I have Diona c6, the Elegy bow, and nobless which means her ult gives
300 EM
40% attk
Her team is
Ayaka
Xingling
Bennett
The fastest times ever using c0 main dps.
@@FunTimeGhz damn that's a weird team..using xingqiu instead of ayaya is so much better and you can use ayaya diano in 2nd team
@@ultimophantom8395 Ayaka
@@Mongoliantiger AYAYA is a meme nickname for her, as well as an emote on Twitch.
@@ultimophantom8395 i think they are doing a melt team
Thanks for the vid, got ganyu yesterday!
Nice!
If you have the characters i feel like mono cryo is way to underrated, it is so much fun playing a more quick swap style with ganyu ayaka shenhe and diona. You can easily play shime set with just e.g activate ganyu q into diona eq into shenhe qe into ayaka q into e and then you swap into ganyu and have enough energy to e use shimenawa. Personally i find it really fun to play :D
I always love Iwintolose guides, it always helps me do more damage for my characters XD
For melt ganyu, I often replace Zhongli (Ganyu Bennett Xiangling Zhongli) with C6 Diona in case I want to use him in the other half (esp for Hu Tao or Xiao). Not only Diona's burst can provide 200 EM for Ganyu, it also does not ruin the melt reactions for ganyu at all. Very recommended!
Got Ganyu yesterday so yeaaaa!!!
i hope i get her
Thank you for sharing this video. Ganyu was my first cryo dps and this update looks good.
I tried for the 50/50 and told myself ill stop if i dont get her. Actually won it for once! And then the fates from her ascensions gave me an amos from the standard! Time to master bow on mobile
Playing on mobile is not as hard as people make it seem.
If your device is not a potato, she's smooth as butter to play
~A fellow mobile ganyu main
and congrats on getting her
i love your videos so much!! they are helpful AND entertaining. I just got my Ganyu and I feel so torn with which teamcomp I should go, so this comparison is realllyyy good
Hahaha
very nice guide, i do think Zhongli Kazuha Bennett Ganyu as a melt team should have been mentioned. Kazuha giving the double buffs to cryo/pyro, and then swirling pyro with his ult allows Ganyu to melt and can give the highest theoretical DPS (without needing XL) while still being comfortable to play.
Yes, more personal damage for Ganyu if your XL is not invested. Problem is if you can’t 1-round, then you have to use a lot of time recharging Kazuha Burst. XL has better Burst uptime (Bennett pyro funnel)… and Gouba after Burst ends for extended melts. As bonus you can reposition Gouba, and Favonious Bennett burst is usually up with 1 Skill for the optimal damage.
@@verymental6999 ya good point. def depends on individual ERs and # of enemies - my kazu at c2 with 160 ER not really an issue getting burst back most of the time
@@gammaxten Yarp. Although this Abyss 12 is nearly a boss rush, and very unfriendly to melt/reverse melt for my teams, because of enemy movement.. and very few particles on A-side. Raiden National is just flying with the normals buff and carrying B-side (I hate B-side this time around).
Praised be the youtube algorithm! Keep it up man very useful content
The new CN Morgana variant is actually insane: Ganyu, Mona, Venti, and Rosaria!!!! U can literally just press skills and not move at all in some cases. It's so fun.
I already know everything I need to know about ganyu but your videos are so good I want to watch it anyway ❤️
Well, now at 70 pity, i am trying to get every primogem possible to, i hope, win the 50/50 and get her.
Have been preparing everything necessary to upgrade her for weeks, so i hope this guide will become useful
The exact same
I really hope i win the 50/50
Because i won the last two😭
I got her now at 78 pity hopefully you will get your soon
Your voice here is awesome dude, love this relaxed tone more 💕
I prepared for ganyu and accidentally pulled on zhonglis banner and got Zhongli I EVEN PREPARED AMOS BOW FOR HER AND I MESSED UP 😭🤚🏻
The one thing I’ve never really seen in videos like this is actually comparing the two different playstyles (in this case melt or freeze)
I wonder if there will be a bow that will lower Aim Charge duration, cuz it would make C0-5 Ganyu especially stronger.
Thanks for the ganyu guide. Ur guide still the best one there is.. 👍😁
her ult hits like 50 times so it’s also broken on clumped up enemies lmaoo
I dont see people mentioning and there is no info in the video about it, BUT _____ with SKYWARD HARP you do better damage using ATK circlet (that can have both crit substats) and you loose out only on the amos passive (12 + 8*5 % bonus). You can achieve the same crit ratio as with amos bc you trade:
- AMOS -> (49%atk + 62%cd + whatever cr% you have /8%?/) - - - ~80 Crit Value / 608 Base ATK
- HARP -> (46%atk + 22%cr + 20%cd + cr/cd on atk circlet /6cr+20cd?/) - - - ~100 Crit Value / 674 Base ATK
So the point is you loose only the passive charged bonus part. Thank for coming to my ted talk >,
For those who loose 50/33 on recent homa banner :>>>>>>>>>> (like me .-. )
6:10 a couple decent atk% timepieces ... I see
Small request to IWinToLose Gaming. Mind to make detailed updated guide about 4 stars characters but this time in a form of 2 videos for each character. For example :
1- Xingqiu ( Elemental skill build and elemental burst build) both in different videos along with EM vs attack build. Many people including me can't decide if either are good or not. such questions rise such as : If I use (Yoimiya, Hu Tao etc) with Xingqiu Burst, how I get maximum damage from his burst?
I hope you consider such videos in the future. Thanks a lot for your support. wish you health and happiness both in and outside the game.
Fun fact but not really:
I waited to pull for Ganyu to use her passive and craft the prototype Crescent
I got her yesterday and put her lvl 90, then rushed to the blacksmith to craft the bow .. turns out I forgot to switch to Ganyu
Rip. An opportunity to use the passive wasted. Maybe one day.
Oof, happened to me too...passives like Ganyu's, Zhongli's or Diluc's are already very very situational...and if somehow we even forget that one time when the passive is actually applicable, that just feels so bad...I wonder when there'll be more Characters with passives similar to Childe...
@@lil_toro yeah, it is pretty sad that they are rarely usable, and even more when you finally have a chance to use it and forget about it lol
I don't know what Childe's passive is
@@serguenedouard586 increases the entire party's and his own AA level by 1...if you have a Ganyu with Lvl.9 AA, and you put her in the same party with Childe, he basically crowns the AA for you, and if it's already on lvl 10, he boosts it to 11.
@@lil_toro ow yeah that's great I remember
had ganyu since first realease and today i finally pulled my amos for her
Wanderer's Troupe is a great artifact for Ganyu, but my God, it's a difficult artifact to farm. I'm tired doing strongboxes.
IKR its so unworth...3 for 1 and not even good..
I thought i am watching a ganyu guide from a different channel... i like the way you show us now what its like while explaining just like what you did on ganyu's charge attack.
Just a side note* your flying Qiqi’s got in the way of your graphs a lot. Maybe limit should be 1. Kind of like how often we should get Qiqi in the first place. (Only once)
Ah, so that's why I was confused with her charge. Ty for that one
Fun Fact : Every genshin player will have the best set artifact for ganyu, it is wanderers troupe, because of weekly boss.
AR 55+ are guaranteed to have good 4 pc set because they'd accumulate at least 130 pieces
15 months of playing, 40pg lv 80+ and still my wanderers are shit. Gladiator al top tier
ah well. I suppose that's how RNG works heh. Still generally, more piece = more chance of 1 being good
Finally got around to watching this video. I've had C1 Ganyu for a year and the Amos bow was my first 5 star wish and I've never fully utilized them.
Imagine needing guides for *Ganyu*
You accidentally forgot to account for the 5% base crit rate on each character, so you would have 80% cr on ganyu with 4p bs and cyro res (5% + 15% +20% +40%)
Also, what do you think about the ganyu melt comp ganyu, kazhu, zhongli, and Bennett.
This comp doesn't have much energy problems, as only Bennett and kazuha ults are important, Bennett is a great battery for himself, and kazuha is a great battery for himself too(especially with sac sword)+ this comp also has zhongli sheild
The rotations would be zhongli e, ganyu e, kazuha e, Bennett e, Bennett ult, kazuha ult, then ganyu charge spam.
Or for more energy efficiency, zhongli e, Bennett ult(without hitting enemies), ganyu e ,kazuha hold e(for more energy), ult (to infuse pyro from Bennett ult, ganyu charge spam
thankyou for this, got ganyu on her re run and that's my first time playing the game and never thought of this freeze build. and by far, without knowing that build, i am currently gearing her along that path. tho i kind of almost short on materials, her being strong makes farming feel a bit easy.
I now have a C6 Ganyu. I got C4 on her original banner without spending any money. Couldn’t resist going for 6 after rerun dropped. It’s so much fun.
bro your videos are relaxing
it's on the spot dialogue, i love it 🖤
I just got Zhongli and now my sleepy goat can just chillin and meltin
Funny how despite having and maining ganyu for nearly a year now i still find myself watching guides on her
Man I really needed this info on polar star, Amos and polar star are officially equal to me now. Considering burst and E damage bonuses are many and multiple instances of damage whereas blooms your only doing 2-3 assuming the difference in blooms in that many shots is 5-15000 dmg difference the Q alone does 830x8-10 times almost 8000 then e damage on both ticks. Essentially equal damage or negligible difference. Ah and I’m referring to R1 in both instances based off your chart. THANK YOU seriously !
i just got ganyu yesterday im so happy 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
love you for this!! hope ganyus rerun is next version
Love your energy and videos keep up the good work. Don't forget to stay hydrated and take care of yourself :D
Idk if I should llaugh or cry if there's another updated ganyu build guide from you 😂
Thank you for the effort, this is a lot of info
i love this style keep up the good work
I'm gonna summon for her today and I'll go for the freeze built. I think the crio set is best suited for her
OMG thanks for this guide video. I really appreciate it🥰
Yes, the Qiqi's are back! Great guide once again! Cheers to you!
Thank you for the video! 😊😊😊😍
I ran her with Childe Eula and Zhongli LOL 36 stars for second half of this abyss 12
Just got my ganyu, and u uploaded! Must be fate.😳
Almost 2 weeks late to this video, I've been using melt ganyu before anyone has talked about it (I don't have Morgana), and the team is very good for my months of experience with it.
Lets start a petition for changing the substat from atk to hp
Hey, You can lower Bass in audio cause it's super strong and lowers quality. Old videos were not that boom xD btw.: perfect quick and simple all konwledge about Ganyu I'm impressed :P
To be honest I was going for C6 Xingqiu, hitting pity 3 times and now I'm here for Ganyu build. With a C5 water dude and C2 Sucrose for some reason.
You are better teacher than my teacher
As a returning player in 2023 who stopped playing in like 1:2 - thanks for this video. Pulled a Ganyu and I have a Bennet and Xin so I can build a team. Will probably use Jane cause I don’t have the shield guy
wow an actual good IWTL video, who woulda guessed
I LOVE the spinning QiQi to remind us of the infamous events.