@@wingit7335Ezekiel 34:11 says, "For thus says the Lord God: I myself will search for my sheep, and will seek them out".Matthew 7:7 "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you"
17:55 The gentleman to the right of Mansur has the sweetest leather jacket!! 17:56 Oh nice a roundabout view!! May Allah bless you and guide all of us insha'Allah.
@@wingit7335 then tell me why they instead of answering him then if he's already interrupted as you claim but make up and jump to a whole other topic... You even listen?
@@wingit7335 does not... You can still interrupt someone which makes him take so long to get his point through.. you so hurt you not even seeing them sweating and Interrupting because I guess you also jumped around not listeni g because it is not comfortable.
1-Nothing cannot bring existence to anything 2-The univers cannot create itself because thats a contradiction 3-Infinit regress is impossible or else we wouldnt exist , a series of infinit contingent things is an impossibility . Therefore there MUST be a necessary existence , an uncaused cause .
_"1-Nothing cannot bring existence to anything"_ Mhhhhhh.... Wouldn't that mean that all that exists today has eternally existed? That there was no creation? No creator?
@@rhett_rydinhood both ur comments are actually related . Nature is a vaugue word because lirly the whole univers is nature . The necessary existence cannot be natural because that would make it contingent if u go with what natural means . Contingent means something that is dependant/not necessary/could have been another way. Btw the conensus of scientists agree that the univers had a beginning 14 billion years or whatever the big bang , even if we suppose hypotitacly there is causes before the big bang thats the 3rd point i established before. If u agree that there is a "necessary existence" which is not contingent then the question becomes what is that "something" . We establish its attributes . That something must be eternal or else u would have the infinit regress of causes and starting points which we established is an impossibility. That "something" must have immense power to bring about this univers . That "something" must have immense knowledge and information because of how complex the univers is. That "something" must have agency and a will or else it would be automatic and it would follow the cause and effect principle. Since that "something" is eternal for it at one point to bring the univers into existence it must have agency. Adding these up uve got "something" which is eternal and not contingent, immense power , immense knowledge and information , agency and a will. Thats Allah/God. I wrote a paragraph before and it got deleted and i had to redo 😭
@@mzin536 _"Btw the conensus of scientists agree that the univers had_ _a beginning 14 billion years or whatever the big bang ,"_ Where did you get this misinformation from? There is no such consensus. The Big Bang theory only states that if you turn back the current expansion of the universe in time, you would have to arrive at a very condensed state of the universe. This says nothing about the beginning of the universe. The state before the Big Bang could just as well have been a transitory stage. _"even if we suppose hypotitacly there is causes before the_ _big bang thats the 3rd point* i established before."_ _*( "3-Infinit regress is impossible or else we wouldnt exist , a_ _series of infinit contingent things is an impossibility ." )_ This is nothing more than an assertion. _"If u agree that there is a 'necessary existence' which is not_ _contingent then the question becomes what is that 'something' ."_ No, I do not agree. _"Adding these up uve got 'something' which is eternal and not_ _contingent, immense power , immense knowledge and information ,_ _agency and a will. Thats Allah/God."_ Why can't this ‘something’ be something completely different from your idea of a god, especially ‘Allah’? And why can this ‘something’ be completely non-con- tingent and eternal, but not everything else? That seems to be pure arbitrariness.
Oh brother Mansour you're trying to explain infinite regress to people who don't even know how to use their critical thinking, even worse they dont even know how to listen and follow a conversation....good luck.. may Allah guide them aand all of us ameen
Wipe your chin; your bias is showing. Mansur is a false prophet. The guy had a book and he is at the beginning of an infinite line of people. Sure, if Mansur is at the back of the queue an infinite amount of time will have to pass before he gets the book but the book _is_ being passed in his direction. The book _started_ a journey that will never end; like the universe. Just because Mansur did not get to read a book does not mean that the book cannot exist. He is a liar and you are a sycophant.
Mansur: something cannot come from nothing. Also Mansur: now I will produce an infinite number of people out of nothing. He is a bad-faith interlocutor. The Indian guy demolished him.
@@wingit7335 Dunno wat u on abt tbh. Islam is of course a clean & a true last religion. Clearly stated in the Quran. Do ur homewerk.😏 Dont feel offended when clearly hindu is a ‘derty’ ‘religion’..? Rats temple, monkey temple, drink c0w urine, even worse the ganges river? C^rpses, dead animals, poo/pee, they bathe, wash clothes, brush their teeth & even drink the ‘water’ frm there. Who in the right sane of mine would think that as ‘holy’ & ‘religious’ to begin wif?? Seriously u guys need to use ur brain.
A little kid understands God exist without questioning & yet somehow a grown adult who been through school education doesn't believe God even exist!🤦🏻♂️
_"A little kid understands God exist without questioning"_ I rather think there's not much understanding but a lot of parrotting. And I think it to be impossible to have any understanding "without questioning".
@wingit7335 Yet a book with a falsification test inside it revealed over 1400 years ago still hasn't been met still to this day & will NEVER EVER be met & rather then reflecting upon it you choose to completely ignore it. Fruitcake
The point he.musses when he saidz we have nature, we all these things and we don't need a creator makes no sense to everything that was created to be needed for an earthly existence.
Atheist really need to learn the meaning of obscurity and obsolete. The argument just circle back to the meaning of Nothingness. His existence is enough to answer his obnoxious question. Alhamdulilah for Islam.
What is the first thing that God says about those who reject faith(belief) QURAN: As to those who reject Faith, it is the same to them whether thou warn them or do not warn them; they will not believe. (Bakara 2:6)
Total waste the person in Black Jacket seriously, he just wanted to Jump like a frog but will not understand the thing explain by Sheikh Mansoor. They just wanted to response on things but not understanding the explanation of Creator... The Black Jacket is simply total waste.
Out of nothing comes nothing. You’re absolutely right. Where does God get all infinite amounts of stuff to create the universe from?Pls don’t say nothing because we’ve already established that nothing comes from nothing.
What was [ iT ] Before it [ was ] For *The Word was* *Be fore The* Be ginning of The *World* The Circumstate was [ altogether ] As One *It was* *Allah* who said " B e " *Who* Caused it to S e p a r a t e And is ( E x p a n d i n g i t ) He simply *Said* to it *Be* and it was ; separated *And it is* expanding growing And it will recline on itself *All contained in the B* eginning *and E* nding *Of The Word* That was and is *B E*
Hello. I am an atheist. I define atheism as suspending any acknowledgment as to the reality of any particular god until sufficient credible evidence is presented. My position is that *_I currently have no good reason to acknowledge the reality of any god._* And here is why I currently hold to such a position. Below are 11 facts I must consider when evaluating the claim made by certain theists that a particular god exists in reality. To be clear, these are not premises for any argument which _concludes_ there to be no gods. These are simply facts I must take into account when evaluating the verity of such a claim. If any of the following facts were to be contravened at a later time by evidence, experience, or sound argument, I would THEN have good reason to acknowledge such a reality. 1. I have never been presented with a functional definition of a god. 2. I personally have never observed a god. 3. I have never encountered any person who has claimed to have observed a god. 4. I know of no accounts of persons claiming to have observed a god that were willing or able to demonstrate or verify their observation for authenticity, accuracy, or validity. 5. I have never been presented with any _valid_ logical argument, which also introduced demonstrably true premises that lead deductively to an inevitable conclusion that a god(s) exists in reality. 6. Of the many logical syllogisms I have examined arguing for the reality of a god(s), I have found all to contain a formal or informal logical fallacy or a premise that can not be demonstrated to be true. 7. I have never observed a phenomenon in which the existence of a god was a necessary antecedent for the known or probable explanation for the causation of that phenomenon. 8. Several proposed (and generally accepted) explanations for observable phenomena that were previously based on the agency of a god(s), have subsequently been replaced with rational, natural explanations, each substantiated with evidence that excluded the agency of a god(s). I have never encountered _vice versa._ 9. I have never knowingly experienced the presence of a god through intercession of angels, divine revelation, the miraculous act of divinity, or any occurrence of a supernatural event. 10. Every phenomenon that I have ever observed appears to have *_emerged_* from necessary and sufficient antecedents over time without exception. In other words, I have never observed a phenomenon (entity, process, object, event, process, substance, system, or being) that was created _ex nihilo_ - that is instantaneously came into existence by the solitary volition of a deity. 11. All claims of a supernatural or divine nature that I have been presented have either been refuted to my satisfaction or do not present as _falsifiable._ ALL of these facts lead me to the only rational conclusion that concurs with the realities I have been presented - and that is the fact that there is *_no good reason_* for me to acknowledge the reality of any particular god. I have heard often that atheism is the denial of the Abrahamic god. But denial is the active rejection of a substantiated fact once credible evidence has been presented. Atheism is simply withholding such acknowledgment until sufficient credible evidence is introduced. *_It is natural, rational, and prudent to be skeptical of unsubstantiated claims, especially extraordinary ones._* I welcome any cordial response. Peace.
@samjall9216 The Evidence of God's Existence is all around us. Can't YOU see ? Makes NO difference whether YOU believe it or not. Nothingness means Absolutely NOTHING......absence of Everything you can think of...... Who created what is around us, what we can see and what we cannot see but it is there ? There is just ONE Creator of all what we can see......HIS Creation. Period.
@@ghias-dc5hw _"Who created what is around us, what we can see and what we cannot see but it is there ?_ _There is just ONE Creator of all what we can see......HIS Creation. Period."_ How do you know that there even IS a "creation"? How do you know the the alleged "creator" ist your particular "god"-character?
I REMAIN A CHRISTIAN NOW AND FOREVER BECAUSE: THE LORD JESUS SAYS: Preach the GOSPEL to ALL creatures (ALL KINDS OF HUMAN BEINGS), Whoever *believes and is baptized will be saved,* but whoever does not believe will be condemned. [Mark 16:16] and *I give them eternal life and they will certainly never perish* and no one will snatch them from My hand. [John 10:28] And when *I* have gone there and *have prepared a place for you, I will come again and take you to My place, so that where I am, you will also be.* John 14:3 Romans 8:1 (ESV) So now there is *no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.* It's really good to be a Christian 👍👍👍😘😘😘👏👏👏 🙏🙏🙏😊😊😊 repenting sincerely MAY the error be removed (Quran 66:8) ALL Muslims go to hell (quran 19:71) 🤭🤭🤭😂😂😂🤪🤪🤪
Why do you feel the need to lie to try and prove your religion is right?...I mean your god popped out of a vigina and was breast fed and had to eat,sleep, poop and died at the hand of his creation, human sacrifice, btw, when was the last time you went to church?..cause the one near me is always empty, empty just like you head.
Jesus is Not All-Powerful, and Not All-Knowing: Christians and Muslims agree that God is all-powerful and all-knowing. The Gospels show that Jesus was not all-powerful, and not all-knowing, since he had some limitations. Mark tells us in his gospel that Jesus was unable to do any powerful work in his hometown except few things: “He could not do any miracles there, except lay his hands on a few sick people and heal them.” (Mark 6:5). Mark also tells us that when Jesus tried to heal a certain blind man, the man was not healed after the first attempt, and Jesus had to try a second time (see Mark 8:22-26). Therefore, although we hold a great love and respect for Jesus, we need to understand that he is not the all-powerful God. Mark’s Gospel also reveals that Jesus had limitations in his knowledge. In Mark 13:32, Jesus declared that he himself does not know when the last day will occur, but the Father alone knows that (see also Matthew 24:36). Therefore, Jesus could not have been the all-knowing God. Some will say that Jesus knew when the last day will occur, but he chose not to tell. But that complicates matters further. Jesus could have said that he knows but he does not wish to tell. Instead, he said that he does not know. We must believe him. Jesus does not lie at all. The Gospel of Luke also reveals that Jesus had limited knowledge. Luke says that Jesus increased in wisdom (Luke 2:52). In Hebrews too (Hebrews 5:8) we read that Jesus learned obedience. But God’s knowledge and wisdom is always perfect, and God does not learn new things. He knows everything always. So, if Jesus learned something new, that proves that he did not know everything before that, and thus he was not God. Another example for the limited knowledge of Jesus is the fig tree episode in the Gospels. Mark tells us as follows: “The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry. Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs.” (Mark 11:12-13). It is clear from these verses that the knowledge of Jesus was limited on two counts. First, he did not know that the tree had no fruit until he came to it. Second, he did not know that it was not the right season to expect figs on trees. Can he become God later? No! Because there is only one God, and He is God from everlasting to everlasting (see Psalms 90:2). Someone may say that Jesus was God but he took the form of a servant and therefore became limited. Well, that would mean that God changed. But God does not change. God said so according to Malachi 3:6. Jesus never was God, and never will be. In the Bible, God declares: “Before me no god was formed, nor will there be one after me.” (Isaiah 43:10). The Bible clearly shows that Jesus was not all-powerful and all-knowing as the true God should be. 🤭
The Gospel of John, the fourth Gospel, was completed to its present form some seventy years after Jesus was raised up to heaven. This Gospel in its final form says one more thing about Jesus that was unknown from the previous three Gospels - that Jesus was the Word of God. John means that Jesus was God’s agent through whom God created everything else. This is often misunderstood to mean that Jesus was God Himself. But John was saying, as Paul had already said, that Jesus was God’s first creature. In the Book of Revelation in the Bible, we find that Jesus is: “the beginning of God’s creation” (Revelation 3:14, also see 1 Corinthians 8:6 and Colossians 1:15). Anyone who says that the Word of God is a person distinct from God must also admit that the Word was created, for the Word speaks in the Bible saying: “The LORD brought me forth as the first of his works...” (Proverbs 8:22). This Gospel, nevertheless, clearly teaches that Jesus is not God. If it did not continue this teaching, then it would contradict the other three Gospels and also the letters of Paul from which it is clearly established that Jesus is not God. We find here that Jesus was not co-equal with the Father, for Jesus said: “...the Father is greater than I.” (John 14:28). People forget this and they say that Jesus is equal to the Father. Whom should we believe - Jesus or the people? Muslims and Christians agree that God is self-existent. This means that He does not derive his existence from anyone. Yet John tells us that Jesus’ existence is caused by the Father. Jesus said in this Gospel: “...I live because of the Father...” (John 6:57). John tells us that Jesus cannot do anything by his own when he quotes Jesus as saying: “By myself I can do nothing...” (John 5:30). This agrees with what we learn about Jesus from other Gospels. In Mark, for example, we learn that Jesus performed miracles by a power which was not within his control. This is especially clear from an episode in which a woman is healed of her incurable bleeding. The woman came up behind him and touched his cloak, and she was immediately healed. But Jesus had no idea who touched him. Mark describes Jesus’ actions thus: “At once Jesus realized that power had gone out from him. He turned around in the crowd and asked, ‘Who touched my clothes?’” (Mark 5:30). His disciples could not provide a satisfactory answer, so Mark tells us: “Jesus kept looking around to see who had done it.” (Mark 5:32). This shows that the power that healed the woman was not within Jesus’ control. He knew that the power had gone out of him, but he did not know where it went. Some other intelligent being had to guide that power to the woman who needed to be healed. God was that intelligent being. It is no wonder, then, that in Acts of the Apostles we read that it was God who did the miracles through Jesus (Acts 2:22). God did extraordinary miracles through others too, but that does not make the others God (see Acts 19:11). Why, then, is Jesus taken for God? Even when Jesus raised his friend Lazarus from the dead, he had to ask God to do it. Lazarus’ sister, Martha, knew this, for she said to Jesus: “I know that even now God will give you whatever you ask.” (John 11:22). Martha knew that Jesus was not God, and John who reported this with approval knew it also. Jesus had a God, for when he was about to ascend to heaven, he said: “I am returning to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.” (John 20:17). John was sure that no one had seen God, although he knew that many people had seen Jesus (see John 1:18 and 1 John 4:12). In fact Jesus himself told the crowds, that they have never seen the Father, nor have they heard the Father’s voice (John 5:37). Notice that if Jesus was the Father, his statement here would be false. Who is the only God in John’s Gospel? The Father alone. Jesus testified this when he declared that the God of the Jews is the Father (John 8:54). Jesus too confirmed that the Father alone is the only true God (see John 17:1-3). And Jesus said to his enemies: “...you are determined to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God.” (John 8:40). According to John, therefore, Jesus was not God, and nothing John wrote should be taken as proof that he was God - unless one wishes to disagree with John. 7) God and Jesus Are Two Separate Beings: Many people use certain verses of the Bible as proof that Jesus is God. However, all of these verses, when understood in context, prove the opposite! For example, in Matthew 9:2, Jesus said to a certain man, “Take heart, son; your sins are forgiven.” Because of this, some say that Jesus must be God since only God can forgive sins. However, if you are willing to read just a few verses further, you will find that the people “...praised God, who had given such authority to men.” (Matthew 9:8). This shows that the people knew, and Matthew agrees, that Jesus is not the only man to receive such authority from God. Jesus himself emphasized that he does not speak on his own authority (John 14:10) and he does nothing on his own authority, but he speaks only what the Father has taught him (John 8:28). What Jesus did here was as follows. Jesus announced to the man the knowledge Jesus received from God that God had forgiven the man. Notice that Jesus did not say, “I forgive your sins,” but rather, “your sins are forgiven,” implying, as this would to his Jewish listeners, that God had forgiven the man. Jesus, then, did not have the power to forgive sins, and in that very episode he called himself “the Son of Man” (Matthew 9:6). John 10:30 is often used as proof that Jesus is God because Jesus said, “I and the father are one.” But, if you read the next six verses, you will find Jesus explaining that his enemies were wrong to think that he was claiming to be God. What Jesus obviously means here is that he is one with the Father in purpose. Jesus also prayed that his disciples should be one just as Jesus and the Father are one. Obviously, he was not praying that all his disciples should somehow merge into one individual (see John 17:11 and 22). And when Luke reports that the disciples were all one, Luke does not mean that they became one single human being, but that they shared a common purpose although they were separate beings (see Acts 4:32). In terms of essence, Jesus and the Father are two, for Jesus said they are two witnesses (John 8:14-18). They have to be two, since one is greater than the other (see John 14:28). When Jesus prayed to be saved from the cross, he said: “Father, if you are willing, take this cup from me; yet not my will, but yours be done.” (Luke 22:42). This shows that they had two separate wills, although Jesus submitted his will to the will of the Father. Two wills mean two separate individuals. Furthermore, Jesus is reported to have said: “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” (Matthew 27:46). If one of them forsook the other, then they must be two separate entities. Again, Jesus is reported to have said: “Father, into your hands I commit my spirit.” (Luke 23:46). If the spirit of one can be placed into the hands of another, they must be two separate beings. In all of these instances, Jesus is clearly subordinate to the Father. When Jesus knelt down and prayed he obviously was not praying to himself (see Luke 22:41). He was praying to his God. Throughout the New Testament, the Father alone is called God. In fact, the titles “Father” and “God” are used to designate one individual, not three, and never Jesus. This is also clear from the fact that Matthew substituted the title “Father” in the place of the title “God” in at least two places in his Gospel (compare Matthew 10:29 with Luke 12:6, and Matthew 12:50 with Mark 3:35). If Matthew is right in doing so, then the Father alone is God. Was Jesus the Father? No! Because Jesus said: “And do not call anyone on earth ‘father,’ for you have one Father, and he is in heaven.” (Matthew 23:9). So Jesus is not the Father, since Jesus was standing on the earth when he said this. The Quran seeks to bring people back to the true faith that was taught by Jesus, and by his true disciples who continued in his teaching. That teaching emphasized a continued commitment to the first commandment that God is alone. In the Quran, God directs Muslims to call readers of the Bible back to that true faith. God have said in the Quran: Say: “O people of the Book (Christians and Jews)! Come to a word that is just between us and you: that we shall worship none but God, and that we shall associate no partners with Him, and that none of us shall take others as lords beside God.” (Quran, 3:64)
You keeping lying not letting people talk... Not back up your say 😢😢😢by saying prophet Moses was Muslims 😅😅😅can you showing in the Coran or Bible as in old testament 😮never speak about Islam layer😢😢
Islam means submission to the will of God. Muslim means someone who submits his will to God. All prophets submit their will to God, including jesus. John 5:30 I can of Myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is righteous, because I do not seek My own will but the will of the Father who sent Me.
There is no official name of god's religion from jesus, moses and even abraham.. But all of them claims that they sent by the same god who created adam, so their religion must be the same. And we muslim believes that all prophet's religion is the same and that is islam. So yes moses was a muslim.
@@wingit7335 lol actually you can. The main teaching of the prophets and the previous scripture is still the same which is worship the one god. Since quran is the words of god and the prophets follows the word of god then All the prophets follows quran.
@@wingit7335 every prophets have their own law they must follow, so it could be different. For example during adam time incest between brother and sister is allowed but later its forbidden. Thats why there is a prophet that brings a new law or remove the previous law.
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Mansur, your debate skills are awful!
@@jamestamz And the hubris: 'I told Lawrence Krauss'? Arrogant little puke.
18:45 Wait! Did the atheist guy just said: "God bless you guys". 😅
@@wingit7335laughable? Go read and educate yourself instead of being an absolute twat.
@@wingit7335Ezekiel 34:11 says, "For thus says the Lord God: I myself will search for my sheep, and will seek them out".Matthew 7:7
"Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you"
17:55 The gentleman to the right of Mansur has the sweetest leather jacket!! 17:56 Oh nice a roundabout view!!
May Allah bless you and guide all of us insha'Allah.
The white guy tried to pull a sneaky one by calling quantum mechanics, but didn't think that brother Mansur has a PhD in
I think their true there is no God expect Allah
They so scared of the truth they try to Interrupt constantly because they feel so unwell... 😂😂
@@wingit7335 then tell me why they instead of answering him then if he's already interrupted as you claim but make up and jump to a whole other topic... You even listen?
@@wingit7335 does not... You can still interrupt someone which makes him take so long to get his point through.. you so hurt you not even seeing them sweating and Interrupting because I guess you also jumped around not listeni g because it is not comfortable.
@@wingit7335 blind faith again... You close your eyes and piyour shorts... Because truth is sooooo bad...
@@wingit7335Shut up! Go back to work old man!
@@wingit7335
We rather listen to the truth than the falsehood that comes from the mouths of the Christians.
1-Nothing cannot bring existence to anything
2-The univers cannot create itself because thats a contradiction
3-Infinit regress is impossible or else we wouldnt exist , a series of infinit contingent things is an impossibility .
Therefore there MUST be a necessary existence , an uncaused cause .
Let's assume your premises were true.
Couldn't that "necessary existence , an uncaused cause" be purely natural?
_"1-Nothing cannot bring existence to anything"_
Mhhhhhh....
Wouldn't that mean that all that exists today has eternally existed?
That there was no creation?
No creator?
@@rhett_rydinhood both ur comments are actually related .
Nature is a vaugue word because lirly the whole univers is nature .
The necessary existence cannot be natural because that would make it contingent if u go with what natural means . Contingent means something that is dependant/not necessary/could have been another way.
Btw the conensus of scientists agree that the univers had a beginning 14 billion years or whatever the big bang , even if we suppose hypotitacly there is causes before the big bang thats the 3rd point i established before.
If u agree that there is a "necessary existence" which is not contingent then the question becomes what is that "something" .
We establish its attributes .
That something must be eternal or else u would have the infinit regress of causes and starting points which we established is an impossibility.
That "something" must have immense power to bring about this univers .
That "something" must have immense knowledge and information because of how complex the univers is.
That "something" must have agency and a will or else it would be automatic and it would follow the cause and effect principle. Since that "something" is eternal for it at one point to bring the univers into existence it must have agency.
Adding these up uve got "something" which is eternal and not contingent, immense power , immense knowledge and information , agency and a will. Thats Allah/God.
I wrote a paragraph before and it got deleted and i had to redo 😭
@@mzin536
_"Btw the conensus of scientists agree that the univers had_
_a beginning 14 billion years or whatever the big bang ,"_
Where did you get this misinformation from? There is no such consensus.
The Big Bang theory only states that if you turn back the current expansion
of the universe in time, you would have to arrive at a very condensed state of
the universe. This says nothing about the beginning of the universe. The state
before the Big Bang could just as well have been a transitory stage.
_"even if we suppose hypotitacly there is causes before the_
_big bang thats the 3rd point* i established before."_
_*( "3-Infinit regress is impossible or else we wouldnt exist , a_
_series of infinit contingent things is an impossibility ." )_
This is nothing more than an assertion.
_"If u agree that there is a 'necessary existence' which is not_
_contingent then the question becomes what is that 'something' ."_
No, I do not agree.
_"Adding these up uve got 'something' which is eternal and not_
_contingent, immense power , immense knowledge and information ,_
_agency and a will. Thats Allah/God."_
Why can't this ‘something’ be something completely different from your idea
of a god, especially ‘Allah’? And why can this ‘something’ be completely non-con-
tingent and eternal, but not everything else? That seems to be pure arbitrariness.
@@rhett_rydinhood what do you mean by purely natural anyway??
They are standing, that is a miracle in itself
@@NatashaLawes-xg3uk
What about the ones who are dead?Does that mean they are not miraculous
@@samjall9216 I will let you know when that time arrives
@@NatashaLawes-xg3uk 😂😂😂😂
Allahu Akbar
@@wingit7335 Unicornio is a mythical created animal, it is not Akbar!
Oh brother Mansour you're trying to explain infinite regress to people who don't even know how to use their critical thinking, even worse they dont even know how to listen and follow a conversation....good luck.. may Allah guide them aand all of us ameen
Wipe your chin; your bias is showing. Mansur is a false prophet. The guy had a book and he is at the beginning of an infinite line of people. Sure, if Mansur is at the back of the queue an infinite amount of time will have to pass before he gets the book but the book _is_ being passed in his direction. The book _started_ a journey that will never end; like the universe. Just because Mansur did not get to read a book does not mean that the book cannot exist. He is a liar and you are a sycophant.
Mansur: something cannot come from nothing.
Also Mansur: now I will produce an infinite number of people out of nothing.
He is a bad-faith interlocutor. The Indian guy demolished him.
Alhamdulillah for ISLAM.
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@@wingit7335 wat talkin u siak?😂u muz be hindu.🤣
@@wingit7335 Dunno wat u on abt tbh. Islam is of course a clean & a true last religion. Clearly stated in the Quran. Do ur homewerk.😏
Dont feel offended when clearly hindu is a ‘derty’ ‘religion’..?
Rats temple, monkey temple, drink c0w urine, even worse the ganges river? C^rpses, dead animals, poo/pee, they bathe, wash clothes, brush their teeth & even drink the ‘water’ frm there.
Who in the right sane of mine would think that as ‘holy’ & ‘religious’ to begin wif??
Seriously u guys need to use ur brain.
You worship the god of Goliath!😂😂
A little kid understands God exist without questioning & yet somehow a grown adult who been through school education doesn't believe God even exist!🤦🏻♂️
_"A little kid understands God exist without questioning"_
I rather think there's not much understanding but a lot of parrotting.
And I think it to be impossible to have any understanding "without questioning".
Ikr ?hahahah
@wingit7335 Yet a book with a falsification test inside it revealed over 1400 years ago still hasn't been met still to this day & will NEVER EVER be met & rather then reflecting upon it you choose to completely ignore it. Fruitcake
Yes and a little kid believes in Santa Claus and yet somehow, a well-educated full-grown adult does not. Weird, huh?
@undercoveragent9889 A little kid believes in santa claus coz her parents told her/him it exist. Pretty weird huh?
Epidermic evidence 😂😂 black jacket guy. This fool eye is not blind but his heart
I'm guessing English is not his first language. Anyway, are you exhibiting a serious lack of humanity? Religion of peace? LMAO!
This indian guy on the left is annoyingly disturbing.
He is trying to impress his buddies but looked more and more silly each time he opened his mouth.
He utterly destroyed your boy and you know it.
The point he.musses when he saidz we have nature, we all these things and we don't need a creator makes no sense to everything that was created to be needed for an earthly existence.
Atheist really need to learn the meaning of obscurity and obsolete. The argument just circle back to the meaning of Nothingness. His existence is enough to answer his obnoxious question.
Alhamdulilah for Islam.
Arrogancy is the mother of all failures
Where is his neck?
These smart people should know where their life come from. And when do know and who take their life away. Learn this lesson first smart atheists.
According to atheists quantum is nothing 🤣
@@publicpm8809
Do you know you are also atheist
8:46 this is where the atheist should have packed up and left
Why?
What is the first thing that God says about those who reject faith(belief)
QURAN:
As to those who reject Faith, it is the same to them whether thou warn them or do not warn them; they will not believe. (Bakara 2:6)
@@wingit7335rather than believing your words totally UNTRUE and full
of shittty shitsss😂
This religion was revealed to the arabs especially to the qureshi tribes. NOT FOR THE WHOLE WORLD.
Total waste the person in Black Jacket seriously, he just wanted to Jump like a frog but will not understand the thing explain by Sheikh Mansoor.
They just wanted to response on things but not understanding the explanation of Creator... The Black Jacket is simply total waste.
ironic.....an Atheist.....for someone who has nothing trying to Justify something....
"Big nothing bang"
Can nothing explode / expand ?
Out of nothing comes nothing. You’re absolutely right.
Where does God get all infinite amounts of stuff to create the universe from?Pls don’t say nothing because we’ve already established that nothing comes from nothing.
What was [ iT ]
Before it [ was ]
For *The Word was*
*Be fore The*
Be ginning of The *World*
The Circumstate was [ altogether ]
As One
*It was*
*Allah* who said " B e "
*Who* Caused it to S e p a r a t e
And is ( E x p a n d i n g i t )
He simply *Said* to it
*Be* and it was ; separated
*And it is* expanding growing
And it will recline on itself
*All contained in the B* eginning *and E* nding
*Of The Word*
That was and is
*B E*
Hello. I am an atheist. I define atheism as suspending any acknowledgment as to the reality of any particular god until sufficient credible evidence is presented. My position is that *_I currently have no good reason to acknowledge the reality of any god._*
And here is why I currently hold to such a position. Below are 11 facts I must consider when evaluating the claim made by certain theists that a particular god exists in reality. To be clear, these are not premises for any argument which _concludes_ there to be no gods. These are simply facts I must take into account when evaluating the verity of such a claim. If any of the following facts were to be contravened at a later time by evidence, experience, or sound argument, I would THEN have good reason to acknowledge such a reality.
1. I have never been presented with a functional definition of a god.
2. I personally have never observed a god.
3. I have never encountered any person who has claimed to have observed a god.
4. I know of no accounts of persons claiming to have observed a god that were willing or able to demonstrate or verify their observation for authenticity, accuracy, or validity.
5. I have never been presented with any _valid_ logical argument, which also introduced demonstrably true premises that lead deductively to an inevitable conclusion that a god(s) exists in reality.
6. Of the many logical syllogisms I have examined arguing for the reality of a god(s), I have found all to contain a formal or informal logical fallacy or a premise that can not be demonstrated to be true.
7. I have never observed a phenomenon in which the existence of a god was a necessary antecedent for the known or probable explanation for the causation of that phenomenon.
8. Several proposed (and generally accepted) explanations for observable phenomena that were previously based on the agency of a god(s), have subsequently been replaced with rational, natural explanations, each substantiated with evidence that excluded the agency of a god(s). I have never encountered _vice versa._
9. I have never knowingly experienced the presence of a god through intercession of angels, divine revelation, the miraculous act of divinity, or any occurrence of a supernatural event.
10. Every phenomenon that I have ever observed appears to have *_emerged_* from necessary and sufficient antecedents over time without exception. In other words, I have never observed a phenomenon (entity, process, object, event, process, substance, system, or being) that was created _ex nihilo_ - that is instantaneously came into existence by the solitary volition of a deity.
11. All claims of a supernatural or divine nature that I have been presented have either been refuted to my satisfaction or do not present as _falsifiable._
ALL of these facts lead me to the only rational conclusion that concurs with the realities I have been presented - and that is the fact that there is *_no good reason_* for me to acknowledge the reality of any particular god.
I have heard often that atheism is the denial of the Abrahamic god. But denial is the active rejection of a substantiated fact once credible evidence has been presented. Atheism is simply withholding such acknowledgment until sufficient credible evidence is introduced. *_It is natural, rational, and prudent to be skeptical of unsubstantiated claims, especially extraordinary ones._*
I welcome any cordial response. Peace.
Go to speaker corner to dawah channel online
@@drmajidkhanpharmacy3683 Why?
8:51 He can find nothingness between his front teeth.
Walker Deborah Garcia Lisa Lopez Timothy
We don’t know if there’s a God but we can believe there is God if we want to.
... we can believe there is no God if we want to.
@@rhett_rydinhood
Exactly
@samjall9216 The Evidence of God's Existence is all around us.
Can't YOU see ?
Makes NO difference whether YOU believe it or not.
Nothingness means Absolutely NOTHING......absence of Everything you can think of......
Who created what is around us, what we can see and what we cannot see but it is there ?
There is just ONE Creator of all what we can see......HIS Creation. Period.
@@ghias-dc5hw
_"Who created what is around us, what we can see and what we cannot see but it is there ?_
_There is just ONE Creator of all what we can see......HIS Creation. Period."_
How do you know that there even IS a "creation"?
How do you know the the alleged "creator" ist your particular "god"-character?
@@rhett_rydinhoodAccept Islam before you die brother otherwise there is only Jahannam waiting for you all other religions are wrong.
The aithiest mind: I evolved from a vacuum cleaner. lol
Its not the eyes but the hearts that are blind.
@wingit7335 Isn't it the exact reason why your creator sent you Prophets time and time again to guide you to the answer?
No God No Justice
Jew by race?
You ask them to prove something can come from nothing, they ask for proof for nothing existing lol, the Indian guy just answered his own question.
No. U ok??
Who _exactly_ (besides certain theists) asserts something _can_ come from nothing?
Never answer questions from muslim
The moment he said stuff pops out of nothingness.
?!?
@@Theo_Skeptomai 1:59 the blonde guy.
I REMAIN A CHRISTIAN NOW AND FOREVER BECAUSE:
THE LORD JESUS SAYS: Preach the GOSPEL to ALL creatures (ALL KINDS OF HUMAN BEINGS),
Whoever *believes and is baptized will be saved,* but whoever does not believe will be condemned.
[Mark 16:16]
and *I give them eternal life and they will certainly never perish* and no one will snatch them from My hand.
[John 10:28]
And when *I* have gone there and *have prepared a place for you, I will come again and take you to My place, so that where I am, you will also be.*
John 14:3
Romans 8:1 (ESV) So now there is *no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.*
It's really good to be a Christian 👍👍👍😘😘😘👏👏👏
🙏🙏🙏😊😊😊
repenting sincerely MAY the error be removed (Quran 66:8)
ALL Muslims go to hell (quran 19:71)
🤭🤭🤭😂😂😂🤪🤪🤪
Why do you feel the need to lie to try and prove your religion is right?...I mean your god popped out of a vigina and was breast fed and had to eat,sleep, poop and died at the hand of his creation, human sacrifice, btw, when was the last time you went to church?..cause the one near me is always empty, empty just like you head.
Jesus is Not All-Powerful, and Not All-Knowing:
Christians and Muslims agree that God is all-powerful and all-knowing. The Gospels show that Jesus was not all-powerful, and not all-knowing, since he had some limitations.
Mark tells us in his gospel that Jesus was unable to do any powerful work in his hometown except few things: “He could not do any miracles there, except lay his hands on a few sick people and heal them.” (Mark 6:5). Mark also tells us that when Jesus tried to heal a certain blind man, the man was not healed after the first attempt, and Jesus had to try a second time (see Mark 8:22-26).
Therefore, although we hold a great love and respect for Jesus, we need to understand that he is not the all-powerful God.
Mark’s Gospel also reveals that Jesus had limitations in his knowledge. In Mark 13:32, Jesus declared that he himself does not know when the last day will occur, but the Father alone knows that (see also Matthew 24:36).
Therefore, Jesus could not have been the all-knowing God. Some will say that Jesus knew when the last day will occur, but he chose not to tell. But that complicates matters further. Jesus could have said that he knows but he does not wish to tell. Instead, he said that he does not know. We must believe him. Jesus does not lie at all.
The Gospel of Luke also reveals that Jesus had limited knowledge. Luke says that Jesus increased in wisdom (Luke 2:52). In Hebrews too (Hebrews 5:8) we read that Jesus learned obedience. But God’s knowledge and wisdom is always perfect, and God does not learn new things. He knows everything always. So, if Jesus learned something new, that proves that he did not know everything before that, and thus he was not God.
Another example for the limited knowledge of Jesus is the fig tree episode in the Gospels. Mark tells us as follows: “The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry. Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs.” (Mark 11:12-13).
It is clear from these verses that the knowledge of Jesus was limited on two counts. First, he did not know that the tree had no fruit until he came to it. Second, he did not know that it was not the right season to expect figs on trees.
Can he become God later? No! Because there is only one God, and He is God from everlasting to everlasting (see Psalms 90:2).
Someone may say that Jesus was God but he took the form of a servant and therefore became limited. Well, that would mean that God changed. But God does not change. God said so according to Malachi 3:6.
Jesus never was God, and never will be. In the Bible, God declares: “Before me no god was formed, nor will there be one after me.” (Isaiah 43:10).
The Bible clearly shows that Jesus was not all-powerful and all-knowing as the true God should be. 🤭
The Gospel of John, the fourth Gospel, was completed to its present form some seventy years after Jesus was raised up to heaven. This Gospel in its final form says one more thing about Jesus that was unknown from the previous three Gospels - that Jesus was the Word of God. John means that Jesus was God’s agent through whom God created everything else. This is often misunderstood to mean that Jesus was God Himself. But John was saying, as Paul had already said, that Jesus was God’s first creature. In the Book of Revelation in the Bible, we find that Jesus is: “the beginning of God’s creation” (Revelation 3:14, also see 1 Corinthians 8:6 and Colossians 1:15).
Anyone who says that the Word of God is a person distinct from God must also admit that the Word was created, for the Word speaks in the Bible saying: “The LORD brought me forth as the first of his works...” (Proverbs 8:22).
This Gospel, nevertheless, clearly teaches that Jesus is not God. If it did not continue this teaching, then it would contradict the other three Gospels and also the letters of Paul from which it is clearly established that Jesus is not God. We find here that Jesus was not co-equal with the Father, for Jesus said: “...the Father is greater than I.” (John 14:28).
People forget this and they say that Jesus is equal to the Father. Whom should we believe - Jesus or the people? Muslims and Christians agree that God is self-existent. This means that He does not derive his existence from anyone. Yet John tells us that Jesus’ existence is caused by the Father. Jesus said in this Gospel: “...I live because of the Father...” (John 6:57).
John tells us that Jesus cannot do anything by his own when he quotes Jesus as saying: “By myself I can do nothing...” (John 5:30). This agrees with what we learn about Jesus from other Gospels. In Mark, for example, we learn that Jesus performed miracles by a power which was not within his control. This is especially clear from an episode in which a woman is healed of her incurable bleeding. The woman came up behind him and touched his cloak, and she was immediately healed. But Jesus had no idea who touched him. Mark describes Jesus’ actions thus: “At once Jesus realized that power had gone out from him. He turned around in the crowd and asked, ‘Who touched my clothes?’” (Mark 5:30). His disciples could not provide a satisfactory answer, so Mark tells us: “Jesus kept looking around to see who had done it.” (Mark 5:32). This shows that the power that healed the woman was not within Jesus’ control. He knew that the power had gone out of him, but he did not know where it went. Some other intelligent being had to guide that power to the woman who needed to be healed. God was that intelligent being.
It is no wonder, then, that in Acts of the Apostles we read that it was God who did the miracles through Jesus (Acts 2:22).
God did extraordinary miracles through others too, but that does not make the others God (see Acts 19:11). Why, then, is Jesus taken for God? Even when Jesus raised his friend Lazarus from the dead, he had to ask God to do it. Lazarus’ sister, Martha, knew this, for she said to Jesus: “I know that even now God will give you whatever you ask.” (John 11:22).
Martha knew that Jesus was not God, and John who reported this with approval knew it also. Jesus had a God, for when he was about to ascend to heaven, he said: “I am returning to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.” (John 20:17).
John was sure that no one had seen God, although he knew that many people had seen Jesus (see John 1:18 and 1 John 4:12). In fact Jesus himself told the crowds, that they have never seen the Father, nor have they heard the Father’s voice (John 5:37). Notice that if Jesus was the Father, his statement here would be false. Who is the only God in John’s Gospel? The Father alone.
Jesus testified this when he declared that the God of the Jews is the Father (John 8:54). Jesus too confirmed that the Father alone is the only true God (see John 17:1-3). And Jesus said to his enemies: “...you are determined to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God.” (John 8:40). According to John, therefore, Jesus was not God, and nothing John wrote should be taken as proof that he was God - unless one wishes to disagree with John.
7) God and Jesus Are Two Separate Beings:
Many people use certain verses of the Bible as proof that Jesus is God. However, all of these verses, when understood in context, prove the opposite!
For example, in Matthew 9:2, Jesus said to a certain man, “Take heart, son; your sins are forgiven.” Because of this, some say that Jesus must be God since only God can forgive sins. However, if you are willing to read just a few verses further, you will find that the people “...praised God, who had given such authority to men.” (Matthew 9:8). This shows that the people knew, and Matthew agrees, that Jesus is not the only man to receive such authority from God.
Jesus himself emphasized that he does not speak on his own authority (John 14:10) and he does nothing on his own authority, but he speaks only what the Father has taught him (John 8:28). What Jesus did here was as follows. Jesus announced to the man the knowledge Jesus received from God that God had forgiven the man.
Notice that Jesus did not say, “I forgive your sins,” but rather, “your sins are forgiven,” implying, as this would to his Jewish listeners, that God had forgiven the man. Jesus, then, did not have the power to forgive sins, and in that very episode he called himself “the Son of Man” (Matthew 9:6).
John 10:30 is often used as proof that Jesus is God because Jesus said, “I and the father are one.” But, if you read the next six verses, you will find Jesus explaining that his enemies were wrong to think that he was claiming to be God. What Jesus obviously means here is that he is one with the Father in purpose. Jesus also prayed that his disciples should be one just as Jesus and the Father are one. Obviously, he was not praying that all his disciples should somehow merge into one individual (see John 17:11 and 22). And when Luke reports that the disciples were all one, Luke does not mean that they became one single human being, but that they shared a common purpose although they were separate beings (see Acts 4:32). In terms of essence, Jesus and the Father are two, for Jesus said they are two witnesses (John 8:14-18). They have to be two, since one is greater than the other (see John 14:28). When Jesus prayed to be saved from the cross, he said: “Father, if you are willing, take this cup from me; yet not my will, but yours be done.” (Luke 22:42).
This shows that they had two separate wills, although Jesus submitted his will to the will of the Father. Two wills mean two separate individuals.
Furthermore, Jesus is reported to have said: “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” (Matthew 27:46). If one of them forsook the other, then they must be two separate entities.
Again, Jesus is reported to have said: “Father, into your hands I commit my spirit.” (Luke 23:46). If the spirit of one can be placed into the hands of another, they must be two separate beings.
In all of these instances, Jesus is clearly subordinate to the Father. When Jesus knelt down and prayed he obviously was not praying to himself (see Luke 22:41). He was praying to his God.
Throughout the New Testament, the Father alone is called God. In fact, the titles “Father” and “God” are used to designate one individual, not three, and never Jesus. This is also clear from the fact that Matthew substituted the title “Father” in the place of the title “God” in at least two places in his Gospel (compare Matthew 10:29 with Luke 12:6, and Matthew 12:50 with Mark 3:35). If Matthew is right in doing so, then the Father alone is God.
Was Jesus the Father? No! Because Jesus said: “And do not call anyone on earth ‘father,’ for you have one Father, and he is in heaven.” (Matthew 23:9). So Jesus is not the Father, since Jesus was standing on the earth when he said this.
The Quran seeks to bring people back to the true faith that was taught by Jesus, and by his true disciples who continued in his teaching. That teaching emphasized a continued commitment to the first commandment that God is alone. In the Quran, God directs Muslims to call readers of the Bible back to that true faith. God have said in the Quran:
Say: “O people of the Book (Christians and Jews)! Come to a word that is just between us and you: that we shall worship none but God, and that we shall associate no partners with Him, and that none of us shall take others as lords beside God.” (Quran, 3:64)
Hitler is lucky Jesus paid for his sins 😂😂😂
You keeping lying not letting people talk... Not back up your say 😢😢😢by saying prophet Moses was Muslims 😅😅😅can you showing in the Coran or Bible as in old testament 😮never speak about Islam layer😢😢
Islam means submission to the will of God.
Muslim means someone who submits his will to God.
All prophets submit their will to God, including jesus.
John 5:30
I can of Myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is righteous, because I do not seek My own will but the will of the Father who sent Me.
There is no official name of god's religion from jesus, moses and even abraham.. But all of them claims that they sent by the same god who created adam, so their religion must be the same. And we muslim believes that all prophet's religion is the same and that is islam. So yes moses was a muslim.
@@wingit7335 sure but you cant use the same trick for christianity. You cant say moses, abraham, and noah was christian.
@@wingit7335 lol actually you can. The main teaching of the prophets and the previous scripture is still the same which is worship the one god. Since quran is the words of god and the prophets follows the word of god then All the prophets follows quran.
@@wingit7335 every prophets have their own law they must follow, so it could be different. For example during adam time incest between brother and sister is allowed but later its forbidden. Thats why there is a prophet that brings a new law or remove the previous law.
They r in denial d existence of God.Let them enjoy d bounty of God for a while to meet their end