I agree. It took me a good number of years to realise it wasn't all Elfman. Christopher did an amazing job as he had to adapt from Elfman's style. 1:22-1:35 was such an amazing part of the score for me. Always sends me chills of delight.
Y'know, I think Christopher Young's version is the better choice, and I'm glad they used it. It keeps the tension throughout and only gives heroic moments sparingly, only once danger has actually passed. Elfman, for whatever reason, seemed to prefer constant heroic music throughout, which makes it almost feel like a comic book because...a moment of high tension needs to be respected as tension; we can celebrate Peter's heroism later, but right now, the focus is on saving lives. It's distracting to be reminded every single second that Peter's heroic and wonderful.
@@rafaelmoura2103 but that’s the problem, do you sacrifice tension for music? I do agree Elfman’s version is more interesting, but for this scene, I think Raimi made the right choice in choosing a more “generic”, but stressful piece
Elfman's version is kind of slow and too heroic, Young's version keeps the tension on until releases the heroic theme with so much relief, also the break when Spiderman swings around the street to catch the train is awesome, that is a great way to drive the scene and I understand why Raimi choose to change the score
Personally, some parts I liked of Elfman's, but in my opinion, Young's fit way more better. More tension was built and fits great! A big part of Elfman's I don't like it how it sounds almost copied and pasted from the Revenge scene from Spider-Man 1. I'm glad with the final decision though.
danny elfman's version is without a doubt an amazing song in is own right, but i can see why it was rejected by raimi for this scene. is just that christopher young feds more with the scene
Simply put: Christopher Young's music builds tension and doesn't let up until the end. Danny Elfman's music kept feeling heroic in places where it's almost inappropriate. I mean yes in the movie this is in a sense celebrating Spider-Man's big come back, but Danny's music should have kept the tension going. It's great, but Young fits the vibe of the scene better.
All these years, all these lies XD Till this day I thought that the music for this scene was composed by Elfman. Now I can really see why did Sony hire Young to score Spidey 3 :D
While Danny Elfman did a great job, Christopher Young’s version is much better. Elfman’s version seemed slightly out of place to me when I compared it with Christopher Young’s one. In Elfman’s version, the part where Peter comes back to the train after Doc Ock threw him away made us feel that Peter’s gonna win & the part where Peter stops the train made us feel that he’s gonna stop it but in Young’s version, It didn't exactly make us think that will Peter win & be able to stop the train. It gives out much more tension & makes us wonder will he stop it. Young’s version is much better & gives out a much more intense feel.
I'll be honest: As much as I love Danny Elfman's score, I can completely understand why they didn't go with it, and I think that Young's score fits the scene better. Now, hear me out: Although Elfman's is great, I think what makes this scene so great are the breaks in the music and some of the quieter moments... in the finished film, it builds more tension compared to always having that loud, heroic music playing. As a standalone track, Elfman's is definitely the better one, but in the context of the film, I think that Young's is better. Still wish that Elfman came back for 3, though...
+JOE MOVIEBUFF I agree with you for the very beginning of the fight : Elfman's score needed some rework but who knows if he ever got feedback about it, Raimi not being present during most of the recording if I recall correctly. However, after that, I still think that Elfman's proposition is far richer and fits the images with more strength. Young's music is just repetitive motives that we heard a zillion times before (not that he had time to write something much better of course).
The problem with a lot of these things is that the composers don't necessarily get to write to a complete scene. Especially if there is a lot of green screen or something. They also don't know what the action sounds themselves will be like, so during a lot of action scenes the music gets lost anyway because of all the crazy explosions and whatnot. While they'd love to be able to write to a finished product and work around it that usually isn't the case especially with cgi movies and how things can be all changed up to the last minute. At the end of the day it's the directors usually making the decision anyway to decide what to put where. They can switch different pieces and put them in places they weren't intended by the composer to be if they thought it worked better somewhere else. My point is I was surprised to learn this information and never really had thought about it before how all these factors come into play. It's a wonder any movies get completed lol
Omar Rivas Bustinza That's because Elfman generally makes certain themes for certain characters. So when on a sequel he uses the same base theme but does alterations of it because that's how the character is defined and it follows them through the movie subtly depending on what aspect of that character they're trying to show. It basically builds on the theme like how you're building on the character for the sequel.
I think the Elfman version is too soft and light hearted. It launches into victory music as soon as Spider-Man starts launching the webs, pretty much saying "the conflict is over", instead of ramping up the tension until the very end like Young's does (making you unsure whether or not the train really will stop). Plus, the use of the Spider-Man theme was almost too obvious. Every time Spider-Man did anything, the first few notes of the Spider-Man theme would play before being abruptly cut off.
6:39 - 6:49 is the only Danny Elfman part I really like other than that I feel like it just doesn't fit as well as the Christopher Young version does Also the Christopher Young version builds insane amount of tense when catching the people, my heart always starts beating so hard
5:15 to 7:36 sounds too much like "revenge from spiderman 1, but after that, its pretty awesome, I would like christopher youngs version for the actual fight and Elfman's for stopping the train.
I find Elfman's music for this sequence interesting and have wondered how it fit to the picture. However, I always preferred Chris Young's rescore for both cues.
I think the constant tonal shifts between dark and light in the Elfman score kinda kill the tension. Also the spiderman theme references are too constant. I really like the repetition rhythm and intensity of Young's score, the way it slowly builds in intensity and also the new ways he adapts the themes. Elfman's theme references all sound too similar to one another, to me they could be from either film because the instrumentation has no variety.
I feel bad for Elfman, as there was undoubtedly a lot of pain being told something you threw your heart into doesn't work. But I think they made the right choice going with Young's score for this scene. Elfman's score is too heroic and doesn't really underscore the danger. I get that he was trying to sell it as Spider-Man's big comeback, but it's too on the nose. By ratcheting up the tension and focusing on the immediate stakes, Young ultimately makes Spider-Man's return all the more heroic. I love Elfman's other work on the film though. That heavy instrumentation for the Doc Ock theme is just perfect.
Both are great pieces of music in their own right, but I can see why Christopher Young rescored this scene and Danny Elfmans cue was rejected. Dannys score was a copy and paste of Peter chasing down Spike after Spike killed Uncle Ben from the first film and it sounded a bit too heroic and wasn't really that suspenseful. This scene needed the intensity and suspense to drive it and Christopher had it. At the time when this movie came out, I thought it was all scored by Danny. And those snare drums chugging like a train in Christopher Youngs score is a nice touch!
now chistopher youngs score is solid its more but its slow danny elfman if you look at the scene you you just the train score in your head and its elfman .
Even though I will always pefore danny elfmans score with the train fight I kind of like Christopher youngs score it's less predictable though it's a bit moderate and slow.
There was always something this sequel felt like it lost from the first movie, in the back of my mind, and it turns out to have been how much Raimi rejected Elfman's score. I've been reading all the comments and I get why Raimi wanted horror and suspense, but to me what was so good about the first movie was the visual horror balanced by Elfman's angelic music. I think I prefer Elfman's here because while Young's score "fits" the mood (in other words it tells you how to feel which is a no-no), Elfman's feels like it's part of the story I've been watching since the first Spider-Man, it just feels so right and returns me to the feeling Spider-Man 2002 gave that this movie just didn't. All these years later and it makes more sense now. Don't get me started on Spider-Man 3 either. Like Young's score in this scene, it feels like hacked up pieces of Elfman's score mixed in with new pieces of music that just don't fit, AT ALL. The symbiote theme is a cool theme in another movie that isn't Spider-Man, and it just feels mediocre in comparison. Elfman not doing SM3 was the first thing I noticed and hated about it, then the worse visual effects because Dykstra didn't return, and the bloated, messy plot because Arad interfered. It was a disappointment but whenever I look back I'm so grateful for Spider-Man 1 and at least how much of an adventure Spider-Man 2 is, even if it wasn't the true sequel (because of the music amongst other things) my spirit desired.
I think I understand your point, but we all know that Christopher Young did a much better job in this scene, which is a big part of why it's so memorable.
@@SuperGogetaGamer I appreciate you reading my comment. I'm not arguing against it being memorable - however "better" is obviously subjective. I listed my reasons above and don't want to waste your time repeating them. I take it that you and many people, including Raimi, think it's better because it's tense and seems to fit this scene more. I think it kicks ass for sure and there are some parts I would want to keep, but it's messy and choppy (probably because Young was brought into the movie late). It leaves you disconnected after the scene ends, there's no love or organic connection to the rest of the movie's musical motif. When I hear Elfman's version it makes me realize that we missed out on a different story because Raimi and Elfman couldn't agree on a vision. At least I'll always have the first movie, still my favorite even though nothing beats this train scene.
I'm glad someone posted a video that I actually care about! Yeah I'm gonna be honest that while Elfman's score fits better in the scene, I much rather prefer the Chrostopher Young arrangement from the theatrical release. That's part of the movie, and it's a famn shame those cues weren't inserted i to the Official score.
The Spidey 2 music was composed by Danny Elfman, the original composer of the first Spider-Man movie, but during the making of the sequel Sam Raimi, the director, rejected most of Elfman's score for some reason...Christoper Young was called in to compose new music for all the parts Raimi wanted changed. So most music was composed by Danny Elfman with additional music by Christopher Young, Making Elfman the main composer of Spidey 2. For Spidey 3, Elfman didn't come back, can you blame him? So Christopher Young composed the Spidey 3 score. I have heard rumors that Elfman did give Young some advice and such for the music, but I'm not sure about that.
Danny's original version is perfect. Christopher Young didn't know to find the just mood to the Spider-Man theme and his version is too loud between cartoon and horror style
The thing about Raimi is that he's known to direct horror genre, and if there's a suspenseful scene such as a running train, he'd need the soundtrack to be suspenseful too
Christopher Young's version is okay but sounds generic and forgettable, except for this part 1:23 which basically just tries to copy Elfman's version which is more powerfull and heroic 6:20. Danny Elfman's version is memorable and superior... 5:15 Raimi is an idiot for rejecting Elfman's Spidey 2 score.
What a terrible edit of the Elfman soundtrack. The track is supposed to begin as soon as they land on the train. It’s the reason why it sounds and looks so out of sync. What a piss poor showcase of an amazing piece of music that definitely fits the scene.
connextro Nope, sorry but if you play the music as soon as they land on the train it flows so much better, I’ve done it and those couple of seconds really do make a difference. Funny you decided to mark those specific parts but ignore the rest of the music that doesn’t flow. You get a C+ for the effort though.
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All these years I thought that it was only Danny Elfman who made the music and not Christopher Young until Spider-Man 3. Shocked.
I agree. It took me a good number of years to realise it wasn't all Elfman. Christopher did an amazing job as he had to adapt from Elfman's style. 1:22-1:35 was such an amazing part of the score for me. Always sends me chills of delight.
I can almost hear the screaming at the end in my head because i've watched it so many times.
Y'know, I think Christopher Young's version is the better choice, and I'm glad they used it. It keeps the tension throughout and only gives heroic moments sparingly, only once danger has actually passed. Elfman, for whatever reason, seemed to prefer constant heroic music throughout, which makes it almost feel like a comic book because...a moment of high tension needs to be respected as tension; we can celebrate Peter's heroism later, but right now, the focus is on saving lives. It's distracting to be reminded every single second that Peter's heroic and wonderful.
prefer the elfman one, the music was just more interesting to me...specially the dr. octopus cues
@@rafaelmoura2103 but that’s the problem, do you sacrifice tension for music? I do agree Elfman’s version is more interesting, but for this scene, I think Raimi made the right choice in choosing a more “generic”, but stressful piece
@@OzKo listened to it again and i guess i changed my mind, if i where the director i might have gone with youngs version as well
I like how in Christopher's theme the snares in the background sound like the chugging of a train. And 1:18 to 1:36, chills bro, chills.
OMG it Do! In-Movie it's Difficult to Hear due to the Traffic Audio as well as the Sound of Spider-Man Dragging on the Road
Elfman's version is kind of slow and too heroic, Young's version keeps the tension on until releases the heroic theme with so much relief, also the break when Spiderman swings around the street to catch the train is awesome, that is a great way to drive the scene and I understand why Raimi choose to change the score
Raimi rejected Danny Elfman's version
Sony: Any more bright ideas?
Raimi: I got a few, yeah!
Raimi hired Christopher Young
Christopher Young: The papers, you sent it... I came..
Christopher young's track fed into the suspense of the scenes.
@connextro lol i did the same joke for the unused version in the ost playlist (by BmSt32) for this movie
Personally, some parts I liked of Elfman's, but in my opinion, Young's fit way more better. More tension was built and fits great! A big part of Elfman's I don't like it how it sounds almost copied and pasted from the Revenge scene from Spider-Man 1. I'm glad with the final decision though.
Adding to Your Opening Statement, I think the Sinister Doc Ock theme at 6:32 is Just Perfect
danny elfman's version is without a doubt an amazing song in is own right, but i can see why it was rejected by raimi for this scene. is just that christopher young feds more with the scene
how much of danny elfmans score is heard throughout the movie.
@@kyleday5026 most of it is his
This soundtrack is awesome on its own
1:24-1:33 that part still gives me chills
I Once Played that Scene on Repeat
Elfman produced a fantastic score for Spider-Man, which makes it all the more incredible that Christopher Young topped him here and in Spider-Man 3.
Has someone else noticed that the second soundtrack is a "Revenge" remix, the song that can be hard when Uncle Ben dies in the 1st film.
5:15 I think
i would say 5:39 or 5:40
Simply put: Christopher Young's music builds tension and doesn't let up until the end. Danny Elfman's music kept feeling heroic in places where it's almost inappropriate. I mean yes in the movie this is in a sense celebrating Spider-Man's big come back, but Danny's music should have kept the tension going. It's great, but Young fits the vibe of the scene better.
1:23 Chills start hittin
Love Danny Elfman, but Young's version is like 1000000000 times better.
Danny elfman did a wonderful job, it sounded well, he could just improved it better, Young is is also fantastic job in it
I love yung version but it’s amazing at 6:36 how elfman transitions from doc theme to spidey theme when spidey saves the people doc ock is throwing
Yes
The quiet tuba at the end of elfman’s sends chills up my spine.
All these years, all these lies XD Till this day I thought that the music for this scene was composed by Elfman. Now I can really see why did Sony hire Young to score Spidey 3 :D
@TheKing and now he’s working with raimi again in dr strange 2
While Danny Elfman did a great job, Christopher Young’s version is much better. Elfman’s version seemed slightly out of place to me when I compared it with Christopher Young’s one. In Elfman’s version, the part where Peter comes back to the train after Doc Ock threw him away made us feel that Peter’s gonna win & the part where Peter stops the train made us feel that he’s gonna stop it but in Young’s version, It didn't exactly make us think that will Peter win & be able to stop the train. It gives out much more tension & makes us wonder will he stop it. Young’s version is much better & gives out a much more intense feel.
I'll be honest: As much as I love Danny Elfman's score, I can completely understand why they didn't go with it, and I think that Young's score fits the scene better. Now, hear me out:
Although Elfman's is great, I think what makes this scene so great are the breaks in the music and some of the quieter moments... in the finished film, it builds more tension compared to always having that loud, heroic music playing.
As a standalone track, Elfman's is definitely the better one, but in the context of the film, I think that Young's is better.
Still wish that Elfman came back for 3, though...
+JOE MOVIEBUFF I agree with you for the very beginning of the fight : Elfman's score needed some rework but who knows if he ever got feedback about it, Raimi not being present during most of the recording if I recall correctly.
However, after that, I still think that Elfman's proposition is far richer and fits the images with more strength. Young's music is just repetitive motives that we heard a zillion times before (not that he had time to write something much better of course).
Elfman score sound similar to the one he use in the first movie for the Uncle Ben killer chase scene
Omar Rivas Bustinza its because it is but altered a bit.
The problem with a lot of these things is that the composers don't necessarily get to write to a complete scene. Especially if there is a lot of green screen or something. They also don't know what the action sounds themselves will be like, so during a lot of action scenes the music gets lost anyway because of all the crazy explosions and whatnot. While they'd love to be able to write to a finished product and work around it that usually isn't the case especially with cgi movies and how things can be all changed up to the last minute. At the end of the day it's the directors usually making the decision anyway to decide what to put where. They can switch different pieces and put them in places they weren't intended by the composer to be if they thought it worked better somewhere else. My point is I was surprised to learn this information and never really had thought about it before how all these factors come into play. It's a wonder any movies get completed lol
Omar Rivas Bustinza That's because Elfman generally makes certain themes for certain characters. So when on a sequel he uses the same base theme but does alterations of it because that's how the character is defined and it follows them through the movie subtly depending on what aspect of that character they're trying to show. It basically builds on the theme like how you're building on the character for the sequel.
Danny's score is the most badass music I've ever heard
I think the Elfman version is too soft and light hearted. It launches into victory music as soon as Spider-Man starts launching the webs, pretty much saying "the conflict is over", instead of ramping up the tension until the very end like Young's does (making you unsure whether or not the train really will stop). Plus, the use of the Spider-Man theme was almost too obvious. Every time Spider-Man did anything, the first few notes of the Spider-Man theme would play before being abruptly cut off.
It's funny I just watching this for the music but I remember scream, line, action, punch, etc I'm this whole video. Thanks childhood. 😅
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9:04 is just awesome...
4:07 is just awesome...
For me 1:23 is the best part
Omar Rivas Bustinza facts
6:39 - 6:49 is the only Danny Elfman part I really like other than that I feel like it just doesn't fit as well as the Christopher Young version does
Also the Christopher Young version builds insane amount of tense when catching the people, my heart always starts beating so hard
If Spider Man 2 was a silent movie
, it would be trash.
@connextro you're trash brock
@@cvoz7870 Beat me to it.
Weird
Yeah over all I like Youngs more for this movie. Elfman's version in this scene did feel alot more like Spiderman 1
AntmN _Wing Your dumb young didn't do the score
for this, he did, whilst elfman was the lead score composer, most of his stuff got rejected, so they got young to do compose some of the other scores.
that weird nerd Have You See Spiderman 2 main tite it doesn't have Christopher young name anywhere
i know.
that weird nerd then why are saying that
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00:01 to 10:00 sounds great to me, honestly.
Quite the hot take
Ngl this part of the theme is pretty good 6:15
1:23 I just came here for this.
8:47-9:15 IS SO BADASS!
The other version was better
@@SmileyySmiley musically, I prefer elfman’s
5:15 to 7:36 sounds too much like "revenge from spiderman 1, but after that, its pretty awesome, I would like christopher youngs version for the actual fight and Elfman's for stopping the train.
Dawg , I came into this expecting to dislike his version of this, but goddamn I actually dig it!
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@@ElPinchiBear Anymore Bright ideas?
@@TheEctoFreak i have a few, yeah!
**starts shooting webs but the train is too fast and lets go**
Filmed in Chicago: The Loop, fake NYC train (CTA 2200 series in reality) and yeah.
Young's version is better but I still wish 9:09 was in the movie
On a musical standpoint, I much prefer Elfman’s. However, I would be lying if I said I didn’t feel more tension with young’s version
I find Elfman's music for this sequence interesting and have wondered how it fit to the picture. However, I always preferred Chris Young's rescore for both cues.
I think the constant tonal shifts between dark and light in the Elfman score kinda kill the tension. Also the spiderman theme references are too constant. I really like the repetition rhythm and intensity of Young's score, the way it slowly builds in intensity and also the new ways he adapts the themes. Elfman's theme references all sound too similar to one another, to me they could be from either film because the instrumentation has no variety.
completely agree
I love elfmans theme but he has more rythm young is more grandiose with the theme just my opinion
I feel bad for Elfman, as there was undoubtedly a lot of pain being told something you threw your heart into doesn't work. But I think they made the right choice going with Young's score for this scene. Elfman's score is too heroic and doesn't really underscore the danger. I get that he was trying to sell it as Spider-Man's big comeback, but it's too on the nose. By ratcheting up the tension and focusing on the immediate stakes, Young ultimately makes Spider-Man's return all the more heroic. I love Elfman's other work on the film though. That heavy instrumentation for the Doc Ock theme is just perfect.
But i don't remember hearing the Chorus Playing at this Moment in the Final Film though, 0:12
Even me. I didn't hear the chorus at all
Chorus is removed in the film
I won't see by the same way this scene after listening the soundtrack now I will be even more excited watching this
I like Christopher Young version better. It made the scene more intense. I'm glad they used that on the final output.
I like Christopher Young’s better
Could you do the Danny Elfman version with the dialogue and sound effects?
I agree
it will be awesome
I liked elfmans music
Could be hard to do since you would have Young's score still playing
@@RichardRichyRickGillard a mashup of both then
Skip to 4:58 to listen to Danny Elfman's version. You'll thank me later. ;)
Argenis Granados thanks alot dude
You’re welcome
Both are great pieces of music in their own right, but I can see why Christopher Young rescored this scene and Danny Elfmans cue was rejected. Dannys score was a copy and paste of Peter chasing down Spike after Spike killed Uncle Ben from the first film and it sounded a bit too heroic and wasn't really that suspenseful. This scene needed the intensity and suspense to drive it and Christopher had it. At the time when this movie came out, I thought it was all scored by Danny. And those snare drums chugging like a train in Christopher Youngs score is a nice touch!
Danny Elfman only did Spider-Man 1 and 2 Christopher Young only did Spider-Man 3
1:48 to 2:26. What a piece of music. The way it builds tension is great. 1st one fits the scene much better.
both are so cool, but the used one fits much better. Again, both are so cool :D
Was looking for 3:26, then realized Sporify has a different version
I think Danny Elfmans version would fit a spiderman vs kraven battle more than dock ock
Yes it would
Danny Elfman Isolated Score Train/Appreciation (Unused)
08:05 Sleepy Hollow reference.
now chistopher youngs score is solid its more but its slow danny elfman if you look at the scene you you just the train score in your head and its elfman .
I cant remember a damn part of elfman's version more than the doc ock theme parts
@@TheShape45 watch the movie again
@@seanchukwuezi3079 they used young version in the movie,and i am talking that i dont remember any part of elfman theme
@@TheShape45 his score was rejected and elfman score is memorable.
@@seanchukwuezi3079 Not for me
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Danny Elfman's music completely wipes the floor with Christopher Young's, IMHO. Sam Raimi was off his rocker not to use it.
could you do Peter vs new goblin scene from spiderman 3 like this please
Awesome :)
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Even though I will always pefore danny elfmans score with the train fight I kind of like Christopher youngs score it's less predictable though it's a bit moderate and slow.
Elfman music is so inappropiate
Nice
Awesome Video!!!
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There was always something this sequel felt like it lost from the first movie, in the back of my mind, and it turns out to have been how much Raimi rejected Elfman's score. I've been reading all the comments and I get why Raimi wanted horror and suspense, but to me what was so good about the first movie was the visual horror balanced by Elfman's angelic music. I think I prefer Elfman's here because while Young's score "fits" the mood (in other words it tells you how to feel which is a no-no), Elfman's feels like it's part of the story I've been watching since the first Spider-Man, it just feels so right and returns me to the feeling Spider-Man 2002 gave that this movie just didn't. All these years later and it makes more sense now.
Don't get me started on Spider-Man 3 either. Like Young's score in this scene, it feels like hacked up pieces of Elfman's score mixed in with new pieces of music that just don't fit, AT ALL. The symbiote theme is a cool theme in another movie that isn't Spider-Man, and it just feels mediocre in comparison. Elfman not doing SM3 was the first thing I noticed and hated about it, then the worse visual effects because Dykstra didn't return, and the bloated, messy plot because Arad interfered. It was a disappointment but whenever I look back I'm so grateful for Spider-Man 1 and at least how much of an adventure Spider-Man 2 is, even if it wasn't the true sequel (because of the music amongst other things) my spirit desired.
I think I understand your point, but we all know that Christopher Young did a much better job in this scene, which is a big part of why it's so memorable.
@@SuperGogetaGamer I appreciate you reading my comment. I'm not arguing against it being memorable - however "better" is obviously subjective. I listed my reasons above and don't want to waste your time repeating them. I take it that you and many people, including Raimi, think it's better because it's tense and seems to fit this scene more. I think it kicks ass for sure and there are some parts I would want to keep, but it's messy and choppy (probably because Young was brought into the movie late). It leaves you disconnected after the scene ends, there's no love or organic connection to the rest of the movie's musical motif.
When I hear Elfman's version it makes me realize that we missed out on a different story because Raimi and Elfman couldn't agree on a vision. At least I'll always have the first movie, still my favorite even though nothing beats this train scene.
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Chris Young's version is not as varied as Elfman's. I think Elfman's might have improved the scene.
Elfman versión sounds a lot like the music use in uncle Ben killer Chase scene I like it but I prefer the one use in the film
Chris Young's was far better both scenewise and instrumental wise
@@SmileyySmiley especially the scene in which he swings back onto thye train after being knocked off it
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i wish they would've used danny elfman's version
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I'm glad someone posted a video that I actually care about! Yeah I'm gonna be honest that while Elfman's score fits better in the scene, I much rather prefer the Chrostopher Young arrangement from the theatrical release. That's part of the movie, and it's a famn shame those cues weren't inserted i to the Official score.
Elfman´s score is very very way better than Young´s. What is in Sam Raimi´s mind to reject that amazing music?
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+MiguelRomooficial the Elfman score has parts of the music use in the chase of Uncle Ben's killer or is it just me?
+MiguelRomooficial I love Elfman but Young made a fantastic job. The symbiote theme is amazing.
Yes!!!
I'm so fucking confused. Who's music is in the actual film?
The actual film's music was composed by Christopher Young. Danny Elfman did another version of the scene, but was rejected.
The Spidey 2 music was composed by Danny Elfman, the original composer of the first Spider-Man movie, but during the making of the sequel Sam Raimi, the director, rejected most of Elfman's score for some reason...Christoper Young was called in to compose new music for all the parts Raimi wanted changed.
So most music was composed by Danny Elfman with additional music by Christopher Young, Making Elfman the main composer of Spidey 2.
For Spidey 3, Elfman didn't come back, can you blame him? So Christopher Young composed the Spidey 3 score.
I have heard rumors that Elfman did give Young some advice and such for the music, but I'm not sure about that.
So they used Christopher young’s music in the film? Apprecation is not by Danny Elfman ?
Wtf can think that elfman did better job here he just reused revenge score youngs score for this scene is fucking iconic
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Danny's original version is perfect. Christopher Young didn't know to find the just mood to the Spider-Man theme and his version is too loud between cartoon and horror style
The thing about Raimi is that he's known to direct horror genre, and if there's a suspenseful scene such as a running train, he'd need the soundtrack to be suspenseful too
Christopher Young's version is okay but sounds generic and forgettable, except for this part 1:23 which basically just tries to copy Elfman's version which is more powerfull and heroic 6:20.
Danny Elfman's version is memorable and superior... 5:15
Raimi is an idiot for rejecting Elfman's Spidey 2 score.
Elfman versión is very similar to the one used in the uncle Ben killer chase scene. I prefer the Christopher Young versión more
The only thing that's similar is the drums. especially at 5:40
Danny version is too heroic,since it starts it feels like the villian was defeated and the conflict is over
Elfman versión its too heroic for the scene, young soundtrack its more tense and that's what the scene needs.
@@benjaminpolanco8363Agree. As a standalone track, Elfman might be more inventive but in the context of the scene, Young prevails here.
What a terrible edit of the Elfman soundtrack. The track is supposed to begin as soon as they land on the train. It’s the reason why it sounds and looks so out of sync. What a piss poor showcase of an amazing piece of music that definitely fits the scene.
connextro Nope, sorry but if you play the music as soon as they land on the train it flows so much better, I’ve done it and those couple of seconds really do make a difference. Funny you decided to mark those specific parts but ignore the rest of the music that doesn’t flow. You get a C+ for the effort though.
@@misaeltoral508 Jesus, could you stop being an asshole for a moment please ?
@connextro i agree, especially at 5:35 when the cymbal hits when Spidey falls on Ock
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