I agree, 13 kgs in 2 months is massive. But I remember when I lost my first 17 kgs and was kinda upset no one noticed. Just keep trucking along, people will start noticing soon. I lost about 60-70kgs in 12 months and people started noticing after the 20-25kg mark. Keep it up ✊
American here so I'm obligated to confusedly ask "What's kg?" 😂 But I agree the results are amazing and a great sign that your new habits are working. Keep them going you look great, especially when licking tiny cases.
Nick has killed a cpu on camera in braod daylight. He is now wanted in 11 countries. Jokes aside, air cooling is the way to go with this one. Also no wonder you look weird (in a good way), may your health and the one's close to you prosper❤
You could fit the Silverstone VIDA slim 240 in this case with no issues at all, just a thought. An exellent guide through though as most consumers would not think of pump heights when purchasing. Machines and more fitted an aio but also did not recommend that configuration either and said air cooling was the way forward.
I saw the your review of the case and instantly loved it. I built my new gaming PC just about 2 weeks ago and switched to this case over the NR200P. That was really good decision, this little case is a treat.
I agree - long term, that much pressure on major components isn't good. As you've proved, just because you can do something doesn't mean that you should. I'm doing a build in this case right now.
Not a pity complement, truly keep it up brother, 28lbs is no small challenge. I watched your small itx vid’s for (2) 1/2 years and thank you for updating us on details, don’t stop making content, your content is A1. Thank you!!!
Genuinely really enjoy these vids when you’re giving shade to some of the more dumb comments 😂 and congrats on the weight loss, 13kg is a huge achievement
Nice vid nick… like how candid you are in this one… congrats on the weight loss… i believe in checking hardware measurements to make sure that they fit.. and like you said, if your parts dont fit in the case dont buy it
If you switched the rear fan to intake so the two at the front were both exhaust would that decrease the temps further? This is what I did on my tu150 and it significantly helped my cpu temps and I’m curious if it would be for this as well
People in general just like to argue and will often listen specifically just to react to what you say. It's because everyone has opinions and for some folks, those opinions are so strong that those opinions must subsume yours and they will do whatever is needed to ensure that they do. Can't please everyone so no reason to try. Great drop with the weight loss bro..
question is the front fan intake or exhaust? I assume it's intake as the rear fan is exhaust. 11mins in answers this question. So what are the temps without the front fan? One setup you have not done which i don't expect you to do as you have done the video already. Is rear fan set to intake and that is the direction of air with top fan set to exhaust
One question. Would it be better if you revert all of the fans? So it will intakes from the back and exhaut from the top and the front. I know it will create negative pressure but it’s science, let test it out 😊
Regarding your weight loss, congrats. Keep in mind, you need to keep it up, because at first you lose the "easy" fat and some water weight, which is less noticeable for others, the internal fat takes longer to lose, but that will dramatically change your appearance. Just keep it up. I'm getting the case in white and I really hope one of the 5080 variants will fit in it eventually, otherwise I may have to switch over to AMD, which would be cool too.
Nick, sorry you’re dealing with all the negative comments. I love your content and appreciate that you give us all this info for free! Keep doing you and just know that a lot of us really appreciate you!
That was a banging intro audio track bro! Love your work. I didn't notice the weight loss, but always thought you're fit. Ya missus, Claire, is a lucky gal
this is a great follow up video, hope you do more of them... cleans things up from the initial video got me from: hmm, this is interresting to: cheap chinese case, avoid
Think best Temp Setup would be reverse. So intake Back, CPU tower blows front direction. slim 120 top out, 120 front out. Suitable with FE Cards. Even in that small case: CPU gets fresh air, sucked out directly. FE gets fresh air sucked out directly. CPU and GPU arend feeding each other.
I believe a saw another person install a cooler master radiator with no issues in this case since cooler master pumps are short. If I remember if you can get a aio with a pump head that is 50mm or smaller it will go in with no issues.
Hello Nic, Big fan of your work and builds, hands down the best on TH-cam. I wanted to seek an expert advice. I am someone who doesn't like to put top fan unless its directly above the tower cooler (love air coolers). Do you think the perforation on front of the top panel helps escape the fresh air intake, and doesn't let it force-feed into the tower cooler (In this case and in other cases), and a metal sheet should be used in the front top panel like the NZXT H510 from few years back? Your opinion is much appreciated. Kudos mate!
I think I've noticed the weightloss, but since the vid is about tech stuff, you know, its more appropiate if we stick to the main theme to the vid in the comments
At a certain point, you're not going to get any better performance than a air cooler, which is likely cheaper, too. You can likely fit a 120 aio, but why bother?
Would flipping the CPU cooler direction, then exhausting both the CPU and GPU hot air with the 2 fans at the front be possible? Then the CPU would no longer be eating the Founders edition's exhaust
I think one idea would be for water cooling an outside radiator. So inside only fans for the airflow. So u would even abale to put an 420 radiator like a tower outside.
Any chance matx board will fit if PSU is turned to the front (Similar to NR200p)? I like the NR200p/SAMA im01 style cases but not a fan of a front panel not being mesh.
@GearSeekers damn, back to looking. I'm not water cooling, so having the reduced height is what I'm looking for with a case. Seems whenever a case is increased for matx, they also add more height for radiators, which then makes the case even larger than needed. It would be cool if there was a 1:1 proportion scaled up matx version of the CH160.
I saw another build in this case with a 4090FE and a reverse airflow layout with the Assassin 4 drawing in air from the rear of the case and exhausting through front and top mount fans. Seemed like a good layout, but I'm not entirely sure how effective it would be with the FE card exhausting some of it's heat directly below the case "intake". Did you try any testing in this configuration? I would be very curious how it performs vs. the standard layout.
Apparently 240mm AIO's fit with slim fans and a low pump. Very informative video but I kind of wished you tried a different pump and some slim fans. Probably just going to settle with the deepcool assassin
Hey, any info on what the fit length is for a GPU? Like I can see some room in front of your 4090FE there -- how much room is that? I've got a 3090FE and don't really care if it's pressed up against the front panel, provided it actually has the extra 10mm required for it (which is looks like it does?)
awesome work on dropping 13kg mate. you might also find that people haven't noticed because we watch you so often, that the change is gradual. Ironically, if you only released 2 vids per month, people probly would've noticed quicker. Either way, GREAT WORK MATE! get after it :)
Sorry mate for such an unrelated question but I gotta ask since you’re my fave aussie youtuber when it comes to cases.. are you going to review/build the latest case from Silverstone called sugo 17? Would really appreciate your thoughts on this, thank you for your work mate and looking good btw! 😎
11:56 the screws are stupid when you build pcs every day but i also build pcs everyday and thought it legit wasnt that bad building in this case. it was actaully a really good experience.
@@GearSeekers yeah, I fully understand that, but as a case that is designed to be carried around, I believe the screws are required. I can understand your frustrations, but I don't believe the clip-in panels will work with the handle and maintaining rigidity.
I really have to ask... do people still travel with their desktop PCs? I am old enough to remember LAN parties, but that was because we had 14.4 modems and AOL. LAN was the only way to really play 8 players in the olden internet days where gaming was done through BBS and not Steam. I just want a SFF to put the case on my desk and not eat up a lot of real-estate as I do a lot of work and hobbies on my desk and need as much free space as I have. Just been curious about this lol.
Found the video because i searched info about the ch160. Turns out this one is 90% of a guy talking to the camera and arguing. Just show me stuff thanks.
No radiator support in this case is a miss. There should be a version without the side glass that could get dual 280 rad support or at least 240+280 rad
so weird that ch160 is mini itx and ap201 is micro, yet they seem to have the same dimensions. havent look at the exact numbers but just an eye-proximation
could it fit the MSI RTX 4070 Ti Gaming X Slim? well, according to the dimension support of GPU the case support unto 305mm and the MSI RTX 4070 Ti Gaming Slim is 307mm 🥲
Has anyone tried a longer GPU? I have a 308mm 4070 Vetus 3X in a A4-H20 and im really interested in switching to this case but i dont want to buy a new GPU lol
Good goth. The handle is so .. no. Compared to the S300 and S400, where its a central part of the frame - ie. you literally screw the handle onto the frame, there is two holes inside the top panel, and two inside the top "handle" of the frame, and its rock solid. Handles the roughly 6 kg of hardware I put into it with no issues whatsoever (not using it, but I did a test with it still "on"). cu, w0lf.
13kg in 2 months is incredible, great job. Looking good buddy
I agree, 13 kgs in 2 months is massive. But I remember when I lost my first 17 kgs and was kinda upset no one noticed. Just keep trucking along, people will start noticing soon. I lost about 60-70kgs in 12 months and people started noticing after the 20-25kg mark. Keep it up ✊
American here so I'm obligated to confusedly ask "What's kg?" 😂
But I agree the results are amazing and a great sign that your new habits are working. Keep them going you look great, especially when licking tiny cases.
Cheers Legends!
@@SpoonHurler About 29 pounds in your backwards measurements 😂
@@Hanisch8 but how did you managed that results?
Nick has killed a cpu on camera in braod daylight.
He is now wanted in 11 countries.
Jokes aside, air cooling is the way to go with this one. Also no wonder you look weird (in a good way), may your health and the one's close to you prosper❤
You could fit the Silverstone VIDA slim 240 in this case with no issues at all, just a thought. An exellent guide through though as most consumers would not think of pump heights when purchasing. Machines and more fitted an aio but also did not recommend that configuration either and said air cooling was the way forward.
Now I need to see this. I want to make a build in this case but I don't like the look of those massive tower coolers
@@CryBlade just get an nr200? 🤷♂️ lots of cases this small have watercooling in thought
Machines and More mentioned you need to use an AIO that has a pump top that is 52mm or less. I also agree with you on the insane number of screws.
Thanks for this!! I appreciate you and all the work you put into this channel!
I saw the your review of the case and instantly loved it. I built my new gaming PC just about 2 weeks ago and switched to this case over the NR200P.
That was really good decision, this little case is a treat.
Always love your quality videos, mate. Even if I have seen four or five other tech channels review it, I will always be giving you a full watch.
Absolute LEGEND!!
Love the brutal honesty of your videos Nick. Keep up the good work, dont let anyone change you
You look great bro. I have been through hard dieting and i actually miss being a tad hungry, makes you so energetic!
Thanks mate! Feeling pretty good!
Thanks for sharing. By the way, the top fan is removing the cool air that the front fan is pulling in... It makes no sense. But the rest is great
I agree - long term, that much pressure on major components isn't good. As you've proved, just because you can do something doesn't mean that you should. I'm doing a build in this case right now.
8:51 Tell people that complain about parts used to DONATE so you can use new parts everytime!
Man after all these years I still appreciate this channel and how do you do reviews and builds so much. Keep up the great content.
Not a pity complement, truly keep it up brother, 28lbs is no small challenge. I watched your small itx vid’s for (2) 1/2 years and thank you for updating us on details, don’t stop making content, your content is A1.
Thank you!!!
We love you Nick, no matter what you look like. ❤ wish I could lose some. God bless you and Klaire.
This case is seriously tempting for a Mini ITX build. However I might wait for the tower version and a few other Computex SFF cases to be compared.
13 kg in 2 months is insane! That’s awesome dude you’re looking great. Love this kind of honest take on the process too 🎉
To be fair since this video came out I've probably dropped another 10kg lol
Genuinely really enjoy these vids when you’re giving shade to some of the more dumb comments 😂 and congrats on the weight loss, 13kg is a huge achievement
Nice vid nick… like how candid you are in this one… congrats on the weight loss… i believe in checking hardware measurements to make sure that they fit.. and like you said, if your parts dont fit in the case dont buy it
If you switched the rear fan to intake so the two at the front were both exhaust would that decrease the temps further? This is what I did on my tu150 and it significantly helped my cpu temps and I’m curious if it would be for this as well
It would obviously help. Machines and more has proven it with the same layout sliger.
great video! Could you please try intake from the back of the case? Maybe then the top fan exhaust and the front changed to exhaust could be good?
People in general just like to argue and will often listen specifically just to react to what you say. It's because everyone has opinions and for some folks, those opinions are so strong that those opinions must subsume yours and they will do whatever is needed to ensure that they do. Can't please everyone so no reason to try. Great drop with the weight loss bro..
I think is looks a lot better sans handle!!! this will be my SFF for my son when i get it started.
question is the front fan intake or exhaust? I assume it's intake as the rear fan is exhaust. 11mins in answers this question.
So what are the temps without the front fan?
One setup you have not done which i don't expect you to do as you have done the video already.
Is rear fan set to intake and that is the direction of air with top fan set to exhaust
One question. Would it be better if you revert all of the fans? So it will intakes from the back and exhaut from the top and the front. I know it will create negative pressure but it’s science, let test it out 😊
Machines and more was only able to do it with the cooler master atmos 240
And you look amazing hun holy shit congrats
Regarding your weight loss, congrats.
Keep in mind, you need to keep it up, because at first you lose the "easy" fat and some water weight, which is less noticeable for others, the internal fat takes longer to lose, but that will dramatically change your appearance. Just keep it up.
I'm getting the case in white and I really hope one of the 5080 variants will fit in it eventually, otherwise I may have to switch over to AMD, which would be cool too.
Nick, sorry you’re dealing with all the negative comments. I love your content and appreciate that you give us all this info for free! Keep doing you and just know that a lot of us really appreciate you!
Keep up the good work. Brutal honesty is the way to go.
I love you're "Dissapointed Dad" attitude lol. If I'm going to buy a product, I want to know the good and the bad.
Thank you for the info! I was planning on using a 240mm AIO. Not anymore lol
That was a banging intro audio track bro! Love your work. I didn't notice the weight loss, but always thought you're fit. Ya missus, Claire, is a lucky gal
🤭 Epic display photo!
@@KlaireGearSeekers tah! it was just sopme random cat pic I found on the internet and has evolved into my youtube persona
this is a great follow up video, hope you do more of them... cleans things up from the initial video
got me from: hmm, this is interresting
to: cheap chinese case, avoid
Would the top fan rule be applicable to MATX cases ? Very interesting video btw.
Think best Temp Setup would be reverse. So intake Back, CPU tower blows front direction. slim 120 top out, 120 front out. Suitable with FE Cards. Even in that small case: CPU gets fresh air, sucked out directly. FE gets fresh air sucked out directly. CPU and GPU arend feeding each other.
Just testing what people asked for. Doesn't matter now anyways. The motherboard is dead
I believe a saw another person install a cooler master radiator with no issues in this case since cooler master pumps are short. If I remember if you can get a aio with a pump head that is 50mm or smaller it will go in with no issues.
Good to know, I have a CM AIO I would ideally want to put in here and I figured it might fit.
The intro is 🔥
Thanks 😂for taking the hit for us love your videos brother keep up the good work
I can see the weight loss. Keep it up mate! Good work. (I actually meant to comment about it on the original CH160 video earlier this week).
Great video fams. Looking good too mate! Shirts are looking very baggy, time for a new wardrobe.
I appreciate you bro. Keep pushing!!
13kg. Nice work. People are blind. Breaking shit for science (or lols)
SCIENCE!
Hello Nic,
Big fan of your work and builds, hands down the best on TH-cam.
I wanted to seek an expert advice. I am someone who doesn't like to put top fan unless its directly above the tower cooler (love air coolers).
Do you think the perforation on front of the top panel helps escape the fresh air intake, and doesn't let it force-feed into the tower cooler (In this case and in other cases), and a metal sheet should be used in the front top panel like the NZXT H510 from few years back?
Your opinion is much appreciated. Kudos mate!
I think I've noticed the weightloss, but since the vid is about tech stuff, you know, its more appropiate if we stick to the main theme to the vid in the comments
What about an 120 AIO as and exhaust in the back and ofc still have an intake fan in the front would that help thermals?
At a certain point, you're not going to get any better performance than a air cooler, which is likely cheaper, too. You can likely fit a 120 aio, but why bother?
I really love the way you explain things lol
Would flipping the CPU cooler direction, then exhausting both the CPU and GPU hot air with the 2 fans at the front be possible? Then the CPU would no longer be eating the Founders edition's exhaust
Would a custom watercooling solution work in this case?
How about if you swap the fans of that nzxt for a low profile one? Will it possibly fit?
I think one idea would be for water cooling an outside radiator. So inside only fans for the airflow. So u would even abale to put an 420 radiator like a tower outside.
I'm really interested in this case but would a 120mm aio be reasonable/compatible for it ? I don't like those big bulky air coolers
Any chance matx board will fit if PSU is turned to the front (Similar to NR200p)? I like the NR200p/SAMA im01 style cases but not a fan of a front panel not being mesh.
No
@GearSeekers damn, back to looking. I'm not water cooling, so having the reduced height is what I'm looking for with a case. Seems whenever a case is increased for matx, they also add more height for radiators, which then makes the case even larger than needed. It would be cool if there was a 1:1 proportion scaled up matx version of the CH160.
Hey Nick, I been watching you for about 3 years now and I noticed you dropped some weight, keep up the good work.
I saw another build in this case with a 4090FE and a reverse airflow layout with the Assassin 4 drawing in air from the rear of the case and exhausting through front and top mount fans. Seemed like a good layout, but I'm not entirely sure how effective it would be with the FE card exhausting some of it's heat directly below the case "intake". Did you try any testing in this configuration? I would be very curious how it performs vs. the standard layout.
I think some angle aluminum, or another decider added using bottom fan screws could help a bit
Congrats on the weight loss, great work :)
Apparently 240mm AIO's fit with slim fans and a low pump. Very informative video but I kind of wished you tried a different pump and some slim fans. Probably just going to settle with the deepcool assassin
Hey, any info on what the fit length is for a GPU? Like I can see some room in front of your 4090FE there -- how much room is that? I've got a 3090FE and don't really care if it's pressed up against the front panel, provided it actually has the extra 10mm required for it (which is looks like it does?)
Your set looks sooooooo cooool. Nice.
Good job on the weight loss! That's incredible! Keep up the healthy lifestyle 😊
I got Ricky Gervais hosting the Oscars vibes watching this video. Highly entertaining content.
awesome work on dropping 13kg mate.
you might also find that people haven't noticed because we watch you so often, that the change is gradual.
Ironically, if you only released 2 vids per month, people probly would've noticed quicker.
Either way, GREAT WORK MATE! get after it :)
I don't know why you didn't just use a different AIO with a shorter pump top.
What about a 120mm single fan liquid cooler?
Sorry mate for such an unrelated question but I gotta ask since you’re my fave aussie youtuber when it comes to cases.. are you going to review/build the latest case from Silverstone called sugo 17? Would really appreciate your thoughts on this, thank you for your work mate and looking good btw! 😎
11:56
the screws are stupid when you build pcs every day but i also build pcs everyday and thought it legit wasnt that bad building in this case. it was actaully a really good experience.
*turns to look at CH160 and 240mm AIO sitting in corner waiting for assembly* 😰😬
Congratulations! Any tips on losing weight? What worked for you?
Diet! We didn't really have a bad diet before but we're really focused on eating consistently and better food choices. :)
The top panel can't be a pop-off panel otherwise when you grab the case by the handle you PC will find its way to the floor pretty quickly.
I more in reference to the 17 screws required to get into the case.
@@GearSeekers yeah, I fully understand that, but as a case that is designed to be carried around, I believe the screws are required. I can understand your frustrations, but I don't believe the clip-in panels will work with the handle and maintaining rigidity.
When companies are making the budget ITX board
They exist, they're the A-chipset series boards
how about 15mm thick fans with radiator? though I will not try it with this risk.
I saw the answer, nope.
I really have to ask... do people still travel with their desktop PCs? I am old enough to remember LAN parties, but that was because we had 14.4 modems and AOL. LAN was the only way to really play 8 players in the olden internet days where gaming was done through BBS and not Steam. I just want a SFF to put the case on my desk and not eat up a lot of real-estate as I do a lot of work and hobbies on my desk and need as much free space as I have.
Just been curious about this lol.
I would use it as bigger laptop with flat portable monitor
I dont mind all screws if its cheaper and probably better for transport
Found the video because i searched info about the ch160. Turns out this one is 90% of a guy talking to the camera and arguing. Just show me stuff thanks.
No radiator support in this case is a miss. There should be a version without the side glass that could get dual 280 rad support or at least 240+280 rad
Dont they give you letter with the products saying when its the time ?
this video has some salty bits! and I'm here for it :)
Hello, can you try the vida 240 slim in this PC :) I think it will fit and be a great option for everyone who still wants an aio
Can 240 aio be mounted at the side like nr200?
How about 120mm AIO? 🤔
Damn I really wish this supported AIO officially. I would immediately of bought it, not trying to buy a new cooler.
Can you fit a corsair 240mm icue in this?
Somebody needs a Snickers candy bar! 🙂 j/k
I wonder if the radiator with slim noctua fans would clear the pump?
It does not
@@GearSeekers THANKS! I guess ill skip on this case !
so weird that ch160 is mini itx and ap201 is micro, yet they seem to have the same dimensions. havent look at the exact numbers but just an eye-proximation
They are not even close to being the same size lol
could it fit the MSI RTX 4070 Ti Gaming X Slim? well, according to the dimension support of GPU the case support unto 305mm and the MSI RTX 4070 Ti Gaming Slim is 307mm 🥲
will a 120mm AIO work?
Thank you so much for breaking your motherboard, now we don't have to.
Has anyone tried a longer GPU? I have a 308mm 4070 Vetus 3X in a A4-H20 and im really interested in switching to this case but i dont want to buy a new GPU lol
Is that possible to mount more harddrives and pretend to be a storage rig ?
APU could be ideal for this case.
Thin and grumpy... nice :)
"the motherboard is bending"
Words Before Disaster
12:37 Which is funny in itself because like you said in the review, it doesnt support top mounted 120 fans with their own cooler either LOL
did my comment just make you kill a cpu i did not expect that i am so sorry lol! Also congrats on the weight loss!
Keep the comments coming! It's all good!
Good goth. The handle is so .. no. Compared to the S300 and S400, where its a central part of the frame - ie. you literally screw the handle onto the frame, there is two holes inside the top panel, and two inside the top "handle" of the frame, and its rock solid. Handles the roughly 6 kg of hardware I put into it with no issues whatsoever (not using it, but I did a test with it still "on").
cu, w0lf.
Would slim fans make difference?
Nope
Use slimfan on 240rad?
Doesn't fit
@10:57 How did you het the MSI board to work with the Phanteks PSU?
Curious as to why the pairing was not working
That's not what I said
@@GearSeekersI misheard.
Though you said "...this is that busted MSI board that's now fixed." My bad.
Can it fit an m-atx motherboard
no
Bob’s your uncle