@@baldawen "Here's how to cross the road *super fast* whilst blindfolded! -Disclaimer: This is a good strategy when it works, but you're going to get hit by a car the other 95% of your attempts" 'Hard' in this case just means *really* bad RNG in your favor, you can't influence anything to make up for it being 'hard' to execute.
SrsBznz funny joke. But besides making jokes you have said nothing so far that Trump didn’t mention/answer. The question of whether you want to use this strategy or not is what exactly you are trying to achieve. Do you want to not lose your rank or do you want to win? This is a high risk - high reward strategy. And like Trump *said* you should only use this if you are completely losing early and not getting any good units. How often does this happen? Not that often, so you shouldn’t use this strategy that often too.
For anyone watching lina is the best unit at this strategy. She can oneshot some units with her ult(reducing damage you take) but can never actually win fights and other units cant actually build enough ult charge off her to actually summon wolves/veno wards/tree's ect....
I played this strat unconsciously once . Just forgot that I was alt+tabbed and when I get back I saw 70 money and my empty board. I'vebuild an army in a couple of rounds and beat almost everybody. Finished the second one. that was pretty satisfying
It might actually be better to just have the lvl 2 Dragon Knights instead of 1 lvl 3 DK. 2 lvl 2 Dragons dealing splash damage from the start is insane.
19:05 I know this sounds crazy, but hear me out. Instead of having to sell *3 Windrangers* during the round to buy the Juggernaut, just combine them before the round starts so you can buy the Juggernaut without selling anything.
A great analogy for this is in the NBA, where teams like the 76ers (in the past) purposely have a weak roster which makes them lose and get a better pick in the draft the following year. It’s the idea of losing now to win later
I "accidentally" did this once before after getting disconnected for a good 3 mins after a good start. So by the time I reconnected, I just went off buying any $4 hero I see and I ended up getting 3rd place lmfao. Troll + warlock synergy is pretty op.
Tried this earlier today. Got second place at the Knight level. 10/10 would gamble again. It's like a rush, knowing you're gonna lose at any moment. Not really viable most of the time, but makes you laugh when you pull it off. Stayed 11% for 15 rounds.
Trump missing the beastmaster for like 6 turns tilted tf out of me, it completed the synergy when he had drow + windranger, and also when he had tidehunter + windranger
It strikes me odd that this plan seems to involve more "ensure you win" and "make sure that you win" than I'd expect from a 'losing' strategy. What I mean is, if "making sure you win" is part of your plan, why not just make it all of your plan?
For anybody trying to learn something here, PLEASE visit the autochess reddit and get your information there. There are a lot of things in this video which are quite suboptimal and you shouldn't take this as an example for a well played game.
This strat is like blind null in spades or an off stage falcon punch in smash. Will it work? Probably fucking not. But imagine how cool you'll look when it does
Something that makes me curious: if we have 2 demon hunters (Am and TB) in the field, if we put 1 more demon like QoP or Doom, the demons keep their pure dmg bonus, right?
Yeah, not only one, but all the demons will keep the bonus. Not the best party late-game since AM and TB occupy spots if you want to go full demons with Doom 2* and SF2*, but if the game only throws demons at you might as well go for it.
the catch is that by not buying units early you have to reroll more later if you want synergy. Its not insane value because of the extra rerolling needed
you miss the point. for example buying units and stack it in the row will cost you minimum $20, it means you already lost $2 per round for more you will only buying crap units in lower level. that's why buying units after you get to lvl 7 worth more
@@ricoaulia3036 I agree that you make more but you do have to reroll more later with this dumb ass ''strat''. This is the strategy you do when you get given shit for 10 rounds in a row. If this strat was good then tides and dog would use it. And what do you mean by this "you miss the point. for example buying units and stack it in the row will cost you minimum $20"? There are 8 slots on your bench bro, you can fill that with $8 minimum not $20 holy cow bad mafs
Idk if anyone can answer this. My minimap and round results stack with the health bar on the right side of screen in game making it almost impossible to use minimap and impossible to see round results. Is this able to be changed through settings? I’ve googled and browsed menus but haven’t seen anything.
I always do this as long as I can ensure I will lose all the time until I got 50, always end up top 3 tho. But the best build from exp is assassin. Why? because with 6 assassins(2 stars) and 1 tank at lvl 7 you'll be able to get winning streak
Awesome, really nicely executed. This strategy also has the benefit of starting of with possibly of just buying strong and easily upgradable units(4 cost) without dependency on 1-2 cost chumps and needing to search for many parts to 3* them.
Why is it that no matter who playes assassins, crits with every hit, but when I go assassins I dont see a single crit in 20rounds? (I usually die before round 20 tho, cause this game has the best RNG ever made by humans)
The thing is that Trump has good knowledge about games and strategies, but somehow he's so slow to react and realize what he's doing. caught him 5 times where he could get a 2nd lycan lvl. 2, same as a juggernaut lvl 2. I know he's a hearthstone player which makes him an extremely passive player compared to MOBA and FPS players, but he's using 10 seconds to move a chess piece.
This idea is great, however you wouldve been level 8 when you pretty much got 7, you would have been able to upgrade a couple units to 2 almost 4 rounds before you did... i realize you were explaining how it works but you saved money after 50 and sold units that wouldve been helpful D:
why he kept dk lvl 1on board when he had medusa then he switched. and why he didnt put rather lvl 1 techie coz hes higher lvl unit. and why he bought tide and didnt sel him, what are the chances he gona get tide lvl 3 before game ends? why not just save 1 gold for reroling to get soemthing else that is lvl 1
Higher level unit doesnt always mean it's better, it's debatable which is better, but dusa gives naga bonus with tide there. Also it doesn't matter if he's not going for level 3 tide, once he gets dk lvl 3 he can put an extra tide in there which is really strong.
I mean if we ignore the fact that pretty much all Gambit except for the Queen's Gambit have been refuted and don't work at any level, including the highest level except for fringe cases where people got blindsided and taken outside of their preparation... sure, if that helps you sleep at night
@@Gabriel64468 Im not quite sure anymore, but didnt Alphazero beat Stockfish with a few Gambits? Its been quite a while since I watched the games so I might be mistaken, if so - sorry!
You're both wrong. The pay off isn't worth it at all, I mean look at Trump's rank he has no idea what he's doing, but gambits in chess are perfectly playable.
This strat doesn't work. The only reason he won is because he got tide hunter and level 2 DK by round 19, followed by all the units he needed to make his combo work. I've never seen anyone get that lucky. In a normal game you hit level 8 at round 21-22 ish while staying above or close to 50 gold. His "insane gold strat" gave him an extra unit for 3 or 4 rounds. Even if you win those rounds (which you probably won't, since your opponents will have way more upgrades than you, and better items due to not failing neutral rounds), your opponents catch up before you have time to do anything with that advantage, and now you have to keep rolling and hope you get all the upgrades you need before you die, wasting the gold you gained during the losing streak. If you manage to stabilize, you're in the same spot as you normally would be, except you are now 2-3 losses away from dying, and you have no wiggle room in the late game, which means that you, again, have to burn your money to stay alive. Meanwhile your opponents are sitting comfortably at 50+ hp and can risk staying above 50 gold for way longer than you. Now that huge gold lead you had is gone, your hp is gone, your level lead is gone. High risk, little reward. Something I think could work is selling all your units on round 4 if you think you're going to lose, like trump did in the video, and start buying units again when you see something good, after a couple of rounds, and make an extra 4 or 5 gold, and still not lose much hp. I found it funny how he said all the units on round 1 were garbage, when he had a bounty hunter, which is arguably the best level one unit.
@@silverfang4583 A bad start is better than this strat though. You're just gambling against the odds. It's like running across a busy freeway to save 3 minutes. You COULD make it across, but...
look I know you don't play dota at all but you picked up chainmail and Plate mail and had them both on tide hunter then you picked up a hyperstone and put in on dragon knight you could have had assault cuirass which is a huge buff to your whole team, wheres the game sense
If you want to talk about team buffs, he did also make (to me) a questionable decision with the enigma swap, given that he gave up the beast bonus with lycan and the beast warlock, which would buff both his dragon knights by a nice bit.
@@gwentarinokripperinolkjdsf683 just click show combinations on the item can also lock combining with other items not to build anything its basic dota knowledge
"Warning: this pro strategy may make you lose more than if you didn't use it." - Trump
Oh okay, sounds solid.
SrsBznz I think he means not to use it, when you have good early units, and go for it, only if offered trash in first 3 rounds
@@TheWWWyrm He also said that if you use it whilst already doing poorly, you could end up losing even harder than otherwise.
@@BznzSrS he also explained it with "because it's very hard to pull off"
@@baldawen "Here's how to cross the road *super fast* whilst blindfolded!
-Disclaimer: This is a good strategy when it works, but you're going to get hit by a car the other 95% of your attempts"
'Hard' in this case just means *really* bad RNG in your favor, you can't influence anything to make up for it being 'hard' to execute.
SrsBznz funny joke. But besides making jokes you have said nothing so far that Trump didn’t mention/answer.
The question of whether you want to use this strategy or not is what exactly you are trying to achieve. Do you want to not lose your rank or do you want to win? This is a high risk - high reward strategy.
And like Trump *said* you should only use this if you are completely losing early and not getting any good units. How often does this happen? Not that often, so you shouldn’t use this strategy that often too.
Remind yourself that overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer.
This was trumps like 6th attempt at making the video. He failed horribly before :P
He did preface this with "you are going to crush your rank attempting this."
And that in a knight lobby
I just read "Remind yourself that overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer." in the Darkest Dungeon guy's voice Hmmmm
@@NisendraNIS Good, because that's who says it. Welcome to references.
'Victory. A hollow, ridiculous notion.'
Watching autochess vids on valentines day *THE* *SADMAN*
Your joke is greatly appreciated.
watching autochess vids about tactically losing on valentines day allegories intensify
the sad life strategy
you're not alone
When your love life is open fort
For anyone watching lina is the best unit at this strategy. She can oneshot some units with her ult(reducing damage you take) but can never actually win fights and other units cant actually build enough ult charge off her to actually summon wolves/veno wards/tree's ect....
It's what he's best at so why not get paid for it!
Hey thats my strategy, but the diference is that i dont win at the end...
I have no idea what's happening here. I don't know why I'm even watching this.
Same here.
@@joahnaut you should probably watch his older videos on auto chess where he explains how to play it.
i dont either. but its fun to watch
same
I played this strat unconsciously once
. Just forgot that I was alt+tabbed and when I get back I saw 70 money and my empty board. I'vebuild an army in a couple of rounds and beat almost everybody. Finished the second one. that was pretty satisfying
jup same here ^^
Yeah but then you lost few items from early game, and maybe took some unecessary damage that could've been mitigated.
"No way the pucks ever get done" *Rolls a puck*
This is like feeding in league and somehow winning after claiming a 1000 gold bounty.
It's actually Frostfang 0 Cs toplane.
@@DarkwingDuc Actually so accurate
LEGENDARY
@@DarkwingDuc Or the inting sion strat.
More like Mordekaiser. Feed the fuck out of the enemy, then steal their ghost and carry with their carry.
How do you left click on your minions to check their stats, etc, before the battle has started without it asking you to move them around?
That lycan carried him so hard 😂😂
The guy who noticed what trump was doing partially and wanted to report him. XD
You just knew he'd be the first one to lose
I thought that guy actually had no idea what Trump was doing and was going to report him for trolling or just not playing seriously
when was this?
@@danielsavory5856 6:20 the russian guy says "wtf" and then he mentions the report a few seconds later
I hear loda screaming
0:02
It might actually be better to just have the lvl 2 Dragon Knights instead of 1 lvl 3 DK. 2 lvl 2 Dragons dealing splash damage from the start is insane.
The downside is of course unit slot, you need more CC in the late game.
But then again no one will ever go that far in a normal game.
Early yes, late no. If you can fit in an additional Medusa, Tide, Kunkka or Disruptor it will be more game winning.
0:42 You actived my google asistant
19:05
I know this sounds crazy, but hear me out. Instead of having to sell *3 Windrangers* during the round to buy the Juggernaut, just combine them before the round starts so you can buy the Juggernaut without selling anything.
he did that because he didn't want to lose money for selling combined wind ranger. Because as we know wind ranger is kind of useless after mid game
Two videos the same day ? GachiGASM
I've been running this strategy for a while now, I just don't know what I'm supposed to do after I hit pawn...
The classic tactical feeding pioneered by bsj
So much for Trump's teachings
try it once, never gonna try it again
I’ve never seen or played Dota Chess but I watched this whole thing...
A great analogy for this is in the NBA, where teams like the 76ers (in the past) purposely have a weak roster which makes them lose and get a better pick in the draft the following year. It’s the idea of losing now to win later
That's should have been a cuirass on tidehunter, he didnt notice it
Gotta love the Lie Can
Amazing as always trump
In Hearthstone, Health is also an asset. Same applies here.
i believe you didn't play hearthstone recently because half of the current popular deck will kill you with full health.
@@srtn1137 Nah, I'm just rank 20 LUL
@@srtn1137 hence why all the hearth streamers started playing auto chess
Hearthstone? What is this, a game of some sort?
*p y r o b l a s t*
I "accidentally" did this once before after getting disconnected for a good 3 mins after a good start. So by the time I reconnected, I just went off buying any $4 hero I see and I ended up getting 3rd place lmfao. Troll + warlock synergy is pretty op.
Tried this earlier today. Got second place at the Knight level. 10/10 would gamble again. It's like a rush, knowing you're gonna lose at any moment. Not really viable most of the time, but makes you laugh when you pull it off. Stayed 11% for 15 rounds.
If you kill your enemies they win.
Trump missing the beastmaster for like 6 turns tilted tf out of me, it completed the synergy when he had drow + windranger, and also when he had tidehunter + windranger
This is an awesome strategy. Tanks.
18:30 missed juggernaut
i remember play with same room with u, the rank 1 got to lucky that strategy get obilerated, by lycan and lone druids druid
Crazy beautiful strat man!
It strikes me odd that this plan seems to involve more "ensure you win" and "make sure that you win" than I'd expect from a 'losing' strategy.
What I mean is, if "making sure you win" is part of your plan, why not just make it all of your plan?
Originally unveiled on Sing Sing's stream as 'the lose strat'.
For anybody trying to learn something here, PLEASE visit the autochess reddit and get your information there. There are a lot of things in this video which are quite suboptimal and you shouldn't take this as an example for a well played game.
hEaLtH iS a ReSoUrCe
This strat is like blind null in spades or an off stage falcon punch in smash. Will it work? Probably fucking not. But imagine how cool you'll look when it does
Was the song during the outro sped up a little?
Something that makes me curious: if we have 2 demon hunters (Am and TB) in the field, if we put 1 more demon like QoP or Doom, the demons keep their pure dmg bonus, right?
Yeah, not only one, but all the demons will keep the bonus. Not the best party late-game since AM and TB occupy spots if you want to go full demons with Doom 2* and SF2*, but if the game only throws demons at you might as well go for it.
awesome strat!! i also have a question...u won but u didnt get candy...actually only the second place got...why??
He already won 10 pieces that day
you're limited to 10 per day
Tried it and it worked, if only I didn't have all my unit clumped up at LV 30
the catch is that by not buying units early you have to reroll more later if you want synergy. Its not insane value because of the extra rerolling needed
you miss the point. for example buying units and stack it in the row will cost you minimum $20, it means you already lost $2 per round for more you will only buying crap units in lower level. that's why buying units after you get to lvl 7 worth more
@@ricoaulia3036 I agree that you make more but you do have to reroll more later with this dumb ass ''strat''. This is the strategy you do when you get given shit for 10 rounds in a row. If this strat was good then tides and dog would use it. And what do you mean by this "you miss the point. for example buying units and stack it in the row will cost you minimum $20"? There are 8 slots on your bench bro, you can fill that with $8 minimum not $20 holy cow bad mafs
Wait but if you have nothing on the board the pieces wont get mana to summon shit, right?
He had an Assault Cuirass but spread the items around different heroes smh
Idk if anyone can answer this. My minimap and round results stack with the health bar on the right side of screen in game making it almost impossible to use minimap and impossible to see round results. Is this able to be changed through settings? I’ve googled and browsed menus but haven’t seen anything.
There's an option that's something like "show minimap on right", uncheck that. The round results are tethered to which side the minimap is on
🙏
need to try that myself actually!
his unit placement is all over the place
Is the max interest +5 gold? or is their no reason to stop at 50, not like 60 or higher
Yep, max +5
Yo, that was sick
A strategy that doesnt guarantee first place? UNACCEPTABLE!
No shit that's the bit ending of overlord's movie
would be great to see "total gold earned" for this game. and at what point he overtook the leader if he did.
I always do this as long as I can ensure I will lose all the time until I got 50, always end up top 3 tho. But the best build from exp is assassin. Why? because with 6 assassins(2 stars) and 1 tank at lvl 7 you'll be able to get winning streak
isnt undead way better then shadow late game? better warlock aswell? or am i wrong to think trump not grabbing undead to replace shadow was insane
Trump is playing dota? NANI?
where do you download this game?
When you open the Dota 2 client there is an Arcade option on the top right. The top of the list and the most played game mode is Dota Auto Chess
@@Samuel-wl4fw dope thanks!!
Awesome, really nicely executed. This strategy also has the benefit of starting of with possibly of just buying strong and easily upgradable units(4 cost) without dependency on 1-2 cost chumps and needing to search for many parts to 3* them.
They need to create a Yu-Gi-Oh game like this.
Damn you are too good lol, tried it and failed hard 4 times
dude how do you get lvl 10 every time? No matter if im winning or loosing most games end at max lvl 9 (bishop 6-8).
dont reroll
If all the board play seriously getting to level ten could be hard too
Trump is so slow it’s funny
this strategy doesnt work on lower ranks, because people leave and you will automatically win
Why is it that no matter who playes assassins, crits with every hit, but when I go assassins I dont see a single crit in 20rounds? (I usually die before round 20 tho, cause this game has the best RNG ever made by humans)
The thing is that Trump has good knowledge about games and strategies, but somehow he's so slow to react and realize what he's doing. caught him 5 times where he could get a 2nd lycan lvl. 2, same as a juggernaut lvl 2. I know he's a hearthstone player which makes him an extremely passive player compared to MOBA and FPS players, but he's using 10 seconds to move a chess piece.
This idea is great, however you wouldve been level 8 when you pretty much got 7, you would have been able to upgrade a couple units to 2 almost 4 rounds before you did... i realize you were explaining how it works but you saved money after 50 and sold units that wouldve been helpful D:
I love you, Trump. AutoChess! 🍄
Genius
do neutrals break your streak?
no, If you can win in neutrals round it would be so great because you have more chances to get item
great strategi to go from bishop to knight lol
why he kept dk lvl 1on board when he had medusa then he switched. and why he didnt put rather lvl 1 techie coz hes higher lvl unit. and why he bought tide and didnt sel him, what are the chances he gona get tide lvl 3 before game ends? why not just save 1 gold for reroling to get soemthing else that is lvl 1
Higher level unit doesnt always mean it's better, it's debatable which is better, but dusa gives naga bonus with tide there. Also it doesn't matter if he's not going for level 3 tide, once he gets dk lvl 3 he can put an extra tide in there which is really strong.
Wh-what? I don't even. I can't understand this game. Is it because I don't watch Rick & Morty?
lv8 no-roll Tide Hunter make you win, i'm petty sure that was be not by this sync.
This strat is equivalent to Gambit strats in actual chess. It's actually hard to do it but the pays off are great.
I mean if we ignore the fact that pretty much all Gambit except for the Queen's Gambit have been refuted and don't work at any level, including the highest level except for fringe cases where people got blindsided and taken outside of their preparation...
sure, if that helps you sleep at night
@@Gabriel64468 Getting advantage with good board positioning helps a lot on mid 1800 MMR matches more or less.
@@Gabriel64468 Im not quite sure anymore, but didnt Alphazero beat Stockfish with a few Gambits? Its been quite a while since I watched the games so I might be mistaken, if so - sorry!
You're both wrong. The pay off isn't worth it at all, I mean look at Trump's rank he has no idea what he's doing, but gambits in chess are perfectly playable.
@@jasonsmith4114 If you think about it, getting money without exposing your unit build is better so that you could counter the enemy better.
I tried this and got barely alive with 1hp XD
First try to
weird, i get huge losing streaks just by playing normal, i call it the noob strat
This strat doesn't work. The only reason he won is because he got tide hunter and level 2 DK by round 19, followed by all the units he needed to make his combo work. I've never seen anyone get that lucky.
In a normal game you hit level 8 at round 21-22 ish while staying above or close to 50 gold. His "insane gold strat" gave him an extra unit for 3 or 4 rounds. Even if you win those rounds (which you probably won't, since your opponents will have way more upgrades than you, and better items due to not failing neutral rounds), your opponents catch up before you have time to do anything with that advantage, and now you have to keep rolling and hope you get all the upgrades you need before you die, wasting the gold you gained during the losing streak.
If you manage to stabilize, you're in the same spot as you normally would be, except you are now 2-3 losses away from dying, and you have no wiggle room in the late game, which means that you, again, have to burn your money to stay alive. Meanwhile your opponents are sitting comfortably at 50+ hp and can risk staying above 50 gold for way longer than you. Now that huge gold lead you had is gone, your hp is gone, your level lead is gone.
High risk, little reward.
Something I think could work is selling all your units on round 4 if you think you're going to lose, like trump did in the video, and start buying units again when you see something good, after a couple of rounds, and make an extra 4 or 5 gold, and still not lose much hp.
I found it funny how he said all the units on round 1 were garbage, when he had a bounty hunter, which is arguably the best level one unit.
The point was to show off a bad start
(even if he didn't actually start bad)
It was to show off a strat
@@silverfang4583 A bad start is better than this strat though. You're just gambling against the odds. It's like running across a busy freeway to save 3 minutes. You COULD make it across, but...
it only cost u to be knight from bishop 6 or 7 to win one game lol
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perfect.
what did I just watch AND WHY IS IT SO ENGAGING
I keep looking at it and I keep feeling disgusted at slark
Good fun video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
another upload??? the mad man!
Ahhhhhh a strategy from Zhuge Liang (Kongming)
His main damage dealer is DK and SF and he kept level 1 Jugg for orc synergy smh...
yes his main damage dealer is DK and SF, and he kept an orc to be a tank.... i can see how this would be dumb
/sarcasm
Jason Wazza warlock 20% life steal bonus is better than 250hp increase you dumbass
I had a game where i was afk with a Tusk and an Beastmaster came back at 10% deopped to 4 bit won it almost👍
"My rank is at risk"
Trump you're at Knight 8
Tier 1 hair
second try and holy shit this works, HAHA!!! quite butt clenching though
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Asian Ron Weasley
Insane match. Clearly shown though that he won cause of the massive luck he got for all the good units and had almost nothing to do with the strategy.
"Do you have bad luck in the early game?"
*two clockwerks and a bounty first draw*
"Look at this hodge podge of crappy units"
*Timbersaw*
look I know you don't play dota at all but you picked up chainmail and Plate mail and had them both on tide hunter then you picked up a hyperstone and put in on dragon knight you could have had assault cuirass which is a huge buff to your whole team, wheres the game sense
If you want to talk about team buffs, he did also make (to me) a questionable decision with the enigma swap, given that he gave up the beast bonus with lycan and the beast warlock, which would buff both his dragon knights by a nice bit.
@@gwentarinokripperinolkjdsf683 just click show combinations on the item can also lock combining with other items not to build anything its basic dota knowledge
since when does trump play dota
The amount of times you stayed on 60 gold made me sick