15:11 "Whatever samples were used..." Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure all those older e-drum brains were simply analog synth modules at their core. No samples involved, which is why they've been prized in the recent past.
I love how drum manufacturers started catching up in innovation. For awhile all the cool electronic gear went to guitars and synths etc... kool kit...👌🏾
As I'm in an apartment, I have to go electronic for drums anyway. As a musician who leans more towards electronic than rock, I don't care about "realistic acoustic drum sounds". I sought out rich analog and lo-fi samples. My setup is Simmons SDS9 pads and Roland and Pintech cymbals, with Simmons SDS9 and SDSV modules, as well as an Alesis Trigger I/O into an Ensoniq Mirage. The SDSV is the king of analog drum synths, very responsive to dynamics.
It's so funny that this video just dropped as my first vintage e-kit literally arrived in the mail yesterday: a red 1984 Simmons SDS-8 which sounds absolutely blissful!
This kit is in awesome shape for its age & sounds really cool & close to a Simmons from the 1980s. I definitely want a 6-piece Simmons SDS8 in red & will set it up with my Zildjian A cymbals.
I am a huge fan of the drums from the 80ties, I played TAMA, PEARL, Simmons, Roland from the era. Now I am building my own set with a unique shape of the drums, never seen before.
That Tama drum kit sounds way better than it sounds in this video, apparently he doesn't know how to use it, need to understand how each of the knobs works, believe me when you study that you will unleash the full potential of the kit. PS. I use to have a Simmons SDS-8, SD$-9, Simmons TMI and Tama Techstar TS-305. the only analog drum kit that I still have is my beloved Simmons SDSV in white.
Oh my goodness, my teacher in the 80s and 90s had this kit. He rarely turned it on but used it for students to play on. $11 per half hour for years. RIP Phil Salah, a local teaching legend.
No samples involved in these modules these were analog drum synthesizers with each input engineered for the labeled task i.e. snare, Tom, bass Basically these had a tunable analog oscillator (usually square or sine wave) and an analog white or pink noise generator that you could blend together, the oscillator would have a pitch bend circuit to make the rise or falling pitch sound that was triggered by the pad input, the pad input would also generate the trigger for the envelope generator that would in turn activate the VCA (voltage controlled amplifier), in the background the noise generators and the oscillators for each channel were free running and the VCA would determine the output of that drum channel’s level to the stereo mix or that channels output of the brain had individual outputs
@@paradiddle5150 You can play it straight, you can half time it, you can double time it. You can bend minds and play two accented triplets. You can play the exact same thing physically but make it sound so different. Ultimate of rudiments.
@@timtyler8822 No no no this suckers electrical - but I need a nuclear reaction to generate the 1.21 Gigawatts of electricity I need.... Or you could plug it in...
Bought my 1st. Drum kit in 1965. Was 13 yrs. old. 3 piece set ( LUDWIG ) Zildgian ride & crash with high hat. Paid for it myself, sold it for my 1st. Car. 1957 Chevy. Wish I had both items NOW ⁉️ Have 20 piece PEARL KIT in storage as we speak. Never would have thought of playing anything else / but like wat I see & wouldn’t mind having a TAMA KIT like this one NOW. WILLY CA 🥁🔥⚡️
I played the Techstar at Chuck Levin's Washington Music Center in Wheaton, MD. I would go there on my lunch hour when I worked at AT&T nearby. That was 1986! I was 19!
I have a parts kit with a Roland TD9 module, Pintech LTE 3 Zone ride, Goedrum HH controller, and previous generation Roland pads. Fun to use, and works to record MIDI. Super cool video, and yeah the analog synth-ness was very 80s.
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Wow what a really cool video! It's pretty amazing how far edrums have come since then. I'm a lot older than you because in 1985 I was gigging at least five to six nights a week. Eventually I did get a Simmons SDS1 and it had an array chips that you could insert to change the sound but it didn't hold up too well night after night. I don't play professionally anymore but I have a little set of Alesis in my apartment and I really enjoy sitting down and playing them just for fun. Thanks again for the great video!
I've tried those out in the late 80's. I also used a Roland TR707 to trigger the TAMA drums. The TR707 has individual outputs so everything could be used to plug into the TAMA module. I used the hexagonal pads (TechStar) ...don't remember exacly which model. The one I used had much more punch. I got a much heavier bass drum sound. And the toms had more tone and attack. I guess you just have to fiddle around with the knobs a bit more. And no, there were no samples.
Great stuff. I own a Ddrum AT module which I got in 1991 and a Ddrum 4 module with cast pads and cymbal pads which I got in 1997. In my opinion, I still prefer using these to any modern electronic kit including all the current high end Rolands (but I will say the Yamaha EAD10 is the first product that I have had any interest in for a long time). The hi-hats are the only compromise for me on the ddrum 4 as you only have at most 4 sound “positions” - but overall with a little reverb and compression they still sound awesome.
I love my TrapKat with Alesis DM5 sound module. So many pads in a small space. I played with one band that did Santana and was really cool to have the Latin percussion to play on Kit 2 with the songs. I also have a Roland V-drums kit with TD-6v sound module. For a while, I had the Roland as the base kit, with a couple more cheap kits, (Ion, Pyle) thru the DM5 for total of 13 pads with 5 toms, snare, high & low cowbell, handclap, vibraslap, canasta roll, tamborine and zap, + 6 cymbals, hi-hat and double bass. I used to have the Mattel Synsonic drums too and I think they sounded better than those Tamas when run through amp.
I had one back in the day. I used the clap and toms with acoustic snare, bass drum, and cymbals. Also used a Roland Octopad connected to an Alexis drum module. It sounded great in our dance band!
I was born in 79 and I remember hating the drum sounds of edrums. Never knew why, at 7 years old, I could ID the sound of it. Now I'm a big fan of edrums, especially of Roland V-DRUMS.
An E-Drum from the 80's that's why it sound 80's. Didn't expect much from it being a good e-drum or what. Unlike todays e-drums which are practically better sounding.
Now those are some cool sounds. :) Very much...uh...just cool! Reminds me of an old MIDI Soundblaster pumping out the sick tunes of DOOM (on PC-DOS, obviously!)
Talk about dinosaurs: I have an old Pearl Syncussion from 1979. Two small white drums, two channels. The same kit was used by New Order and OMD. Pheeeeeeeew-phew. :)
I love that, the sounds and controls are very close to my Simmons SDS8 vintage kit. I believe out there there are still programmable eproms where you can save customized sounds (not sure that's applicable to this kit). A great find imo. Thank you for the video.
Still sounds great ! It would be cool to see reaction videos from the drummers who come in and visit your studio play it. Could possibly be some new content for your channel!!
OMG. I had one of those when they were new. It was during the time when drummers felt like we were becoming extinct to drum machines and all the tunes had that analog electronic drum sound. It had better feel than the Simmons kit. It got boring quickly though and I mostly ended up triggering my bass drum through the "brain". That was pretty awesome.
I don't really want a Electric Kit, but I really want some drum triggers and mesh drum heads. This way I can still use samples on a regular drum set. I would also add in some Roland Cymbals
I had a Gretsch e-drum kit around the same time that this Tama came out and it had a similar head module. The only issue I had with it was the fact that you could bump the knobs and totally screw up the sound. There was no way to save settings. I played an entire gig with my bass drum sounding like it was from outer space because I had accidentally bumped the bend and decay up on that channel and I couldn't hear enough high end from my monitor to know. I was horrified when I heard the audio from the show and felt extremely embarrassed. I started taping down all but the volume knobs on every channel after that. PS - you can make these sound much more like acoustic drums if you know what you're doing. LOL! There are no samples. These are all-analog modules.
I purchased the Tama Tech Star set when they were first made in 1985, I could not really understand how to operate the controls and I had a hard time liking the sounds. I still have the set but haven’t played them in years.
Wow. This is how it is when you look back. 1985 seems like yesterday but the difference between this set and what's out there now is day and night. In it's day it was probably awesome but in retrospect it's a dinosaur. Sounds like one too. I guess I'm spoiled with my Roland td25 v-drums. But it would be cool to own just for the sake of owning it if space wasn't an issue. And I have owned 2 Tama acoustic sets so I love the brand.
Jared looks like himself at Christmas in 1988, if instead of opening and playing a Nintendo NES for the first time, he opened and played a Tama E-drum kit for the first time. What a rad visual.
Hello there nice drum set you got. I have some vintage drums too, I have the Yamaha ptx8 with the ptt8 toms. I also have the Roland DDR 30 with the price 31 and of 21 toms love them 🤘.
Sweet, even has the original packaging!
Justin needs to be on Drumeo.
Do you want to reshoot part 2 now?
You just know Justin will be lurking in the comments when you see the title
@@brattyterror pleaze th-cam.com/video/DPIuYodDFec/w-d-xo.html
hi justin
15:11 "Whatever samples were used..."
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure all those older e-drum brains were simply analog synth modules at their core. No samples involved, which is why they've been prized in the recent past.
You are correct. Noise and tone generators smashed together .
I owned the sound module off of this way back when, and yes, all analog tone generators.
Correct
Yes is analog, that drum kit from Tama came after the TS-305 and TS-306 drum kits with hexagonal pads (I used to have one of those in 1984).
Their was that one magical drum module that had linn drum samples
Jared seems like a kid that just got given a new (old rather) toy! Love the excitement trying this relic of a drum kit.
I love how drum manufacturers started catching up in innovation. For awhile all the cool electronic gear went to guitars and synths etc... kool kit...👌🏾
That looks like it's really well made and sturdier than most low-mid level e drums of today! I love the bass drum.
I love the bass drum too:-)
I love it! what a find. But the best bit: Jared's comment 'its a quarter note jack' (2:32) I'm stealing that.
This takes me back to my days as a teenager. 80s rules. ❤️ Cool looking set 🥁
As I'm in an apartment, I have to go electronic for drums anyway. As a musician who leans more towards electronic than rock, I don't care about "realistic acoustic drum sounds". I sought out rich analog and lo-fi samples. My setup is Simmons SDS9 pads and Roland and Pintech cymbals, with Simmons SDS9 and SDSV modules, as well as an Alesis Trigger I/O into an Ensoniq Mirage. The SDSV is the king of analog drum synths, very responsive to dynamics.
I almost flipped my shit waiting for you to make that kick drum sound like an analog kick drum, instead of a plastic bag.
It's so funny that this video just dropped as my first vintage e-kit literally arrived in the mail yesterday: a red 1984 Simmons SDS-8 which sounds absolutely blissful!
2nd generation module!! I remember playing these back then!! They were in competition with the original Simmons drums
The 1st generation pads were semi-hexagonal shaped. I still have a white T5100 trigger pad :)
This kit is in awesome shape for its age & sounds really cool & close to a Simmons from the 1980s. I definitely want a 6-piece Simmons SDS8 in red & will set it up with my Zildjian A cymbals.
I am a huge fan of the drums from the 80ties, I played TAMA, PEARL, Simmons, Roland from the era. Now I am building my own set with a unique shape of the drums, never seen before.
Dude, you missed the perfect opportunity to play the fill from “In the Air Tonight.” Shame on you.
Did I? th-cam.com/video/t8tnaZw-uTE/w-d-xo.html
@@DrumeoOfficial ahhhahaha
Oooof
outplayed
@@DrumeoOfficial touché.
That Tama drum kit sounds way better than it sounds in this video, apparently he doesn't know how to use it, need to understand how each of the knobs works, believe me when you study that you will unleash the full potential of the kit.
PS. I use to have a Simmons SDS-8, SD$-9, Simmons TMI and Tama Techstar TS-305. the only analog drum kit that I still have is my beloved Simmons SDSV in white.
Love the solo with the tone on full
80s had the best products ever! Love that kit!
Oh my goodness, my teacher in the 80s and 90s had this kit. He rarely turned it on but used it for students to play on. $11 per half hour for years. RIP Phil Salah, a local teaching legend.
No samples involved in these modules these were analog drum synthesizers with each input engineered for the labeled task i.e. snare, Tom, bass
Basically these had a tunable analog oscillator (usually square or sine wave) and an analog white or pink noise generator that you could blend together, the oscillator would have a pitch bend circuit to make the rise or falling pitch sound that was triggered by the pad input, the pad input would also generate the trigger for the envelope generator that would in turn activate the VCA (voltage controlled amplifier), in the background the noise generators and the oscillators for each channel were free running and the VCA would determine the output of that drum channel’s level to the stereo mix or that channels output of the brain had individual outputs
Thanks for everything y'all do Drumeo! This channel is definitely where it's at! 🤘
For the record the Paradiddle Diddle is the ultimate of rudiments.
@@legacyShredder1 I agree, friend 🤘
@@paradiddle5150 You can play it straight, you can half time it, you can double time it. You can bend minds and play two accented triplets. You can play the exact same thing physically but make it sound so different. Ultimate of rudiments.
it looks like it a prop for back to the future🔥
Great Scott!
@@DrumeoOfficial Well it does run on Plutonium.
Wait a minute, you mean this sucker's nuclear?!
@@timtyler8822 No no no this suckers electrical - but I need a nuclear reaction to generate the 1.21 Gigawatts of electricity I need....
Or you could plug it in...
I wasn't hearing the drum sounds... just the "fwapp!" of you hitting the triggers.
Were pretty lucky these days even the most cheapest drum module out today blows that old stuff out the water Nice Relic to have tho!
I don't think so, the Simmons SDSV still the king of analog electronic drums.
@@carlosserrano3985 Exactly
Bought my 1st. Drum kit in 1965. Was 13 yrs. old. 3 piece set ( LUDWIG ) Zildgian ride & crash with high hat. Paid for it myself, sold it for my 1st. Car. 1957 Chevy. Wish I had both items NOW ⁉️ Have 20 piece PEARL KIT in storage as we speak. Never would have thought of playing anything else / but like wat I see & wouldn’t mind having a TAMA KIT like this one NOW. WILLY CA 🥁🔥⚡️
I played the Techstar at Chuck Levin's Washington Music Center in Wheaton, MD. I would go there on my lunch hour when I worked at AT&T nearby. That was 1986! I was 19!
Thank you guys for what you do
The groove at the end was super cool.
Sounds more like a percussive synthesizer than anything else! That's super neat!
i was today years old when i found out that jared is way older than he looks
I owned a set of these in 1985! Loved them!
I remember the Tama Techstar, I owned a Simmons sds1000 in the 80's and wish I still had it! Cool video, it brings me back.
Gotta love that drum set. It all looks so well made plus I like the noise setting,technology has come very far
I have a parts kit with a Roland TD9 module, Pintech LTE 3 Zone ride, Goedrum HH controller, and previous generation Roland pads. Fun to use, and works to record MIDI. Super cool video, and yeah the analog synth-ness was very 80s.
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Wow what a really cool video! It's pretty amazing how far edrums have come since then. I'm a lot older than you because in 1985 I was gigging at least five to six nights a week. Eventually I did get a Simmons SDS1 and it had an array chips that you could insert to change the sound but it didn't hold up too well night after night. I don't play professionally anymore but I have a little set of Alesis in my apartment and I really enjoy sitting down and playing them just for fun. Thanks again for the great video!
if You like analog style synth drums - try Nord Drum
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DJ Jared
I've tried those out in the late 80's. I also used a Roland TR707 to trigger the TAMA drums. The TR707 has individual outputs so everything could be used to plug into the TAMA module. I used the hexagonal pads (TechStar) ...don't remember exacly which model. The one I used had much more punch. I got a much heavier bass drum sound. And the toms had more tone and attack. I guess you just have to fiddle around with the knobs a bit more. And no, there were no samples.
gotta love drumeo!
1:11 nice little subtle cam move in post, there!
Very Popular Back in the day lots pop bands used them including Flock of Seagulls
I have an Alesis mesh kit. Love it!!
that jam where everything was on tone was AMAZING. i wanna hear a song that does that
Great stuff. I own a Ddrum AT module which I got in 1991 and a Ddrum 4 module with cast pads and cymbal pads which I got in 1997. In my opinion, I still prefer using these to any modern electronic kit including all the current high end Rolands (but I will say the Yamaha EAD10 is the first product that I have had any interest in for a long time). The hi-hats are the only compromise for me on the ddrum 4 as you only have at most 4 sound “positions” - but overall with a little reverb and compression they still sound awesome.
I love my TrapKat with Alesis DM5 sound module. So many pads in a small space. I played with one band that did Santana and was really cool to have the Latin percussion to play on Kit 2 with the songs. I also have a Roland V-drums kit with TD-6v sound module. For a while, I had the Roland as the base kit, with a couple more cheap kits, (Ion, Pyle) thru the DM5 for total of 13 pads with 5 toms, snare, high & low cowbell, handclap, vibraslap, canasta roll, tamborine and zap, + 6 cymbals, hi-hat and double bass. I used to have the Mattel Synsonic drums too and I think they sounded better than those Tamas when run through amp.
I had one back in the day. I used the clap and toms with acoustic snare, bass drum, and cymbals. Also used a Roland Octopad connected to an Alexis drum module. It sounded great in our dance band!
I was born in 79 and I remember hating the drum sounds of edrums. Never knew why, at 7 years old, I could ID the sound of it. Now I'm a big fan of edrums, especially of Roland V-DRUMS.
Yay ! Something to watch whilst i'm having my dinner ! :)
Playing drums brings out the children in all of us :)
Thank God for ROLAND
thumbs up for the edit there at 3:35
11:30 🎵"Every breath you take...."🎵
Thanks Drumeo. You bring so many interesting stuff for us!
Alesis Strike module with acoustic to electric conversion kit FTW
Drumeo for the bloody win win!!
Omg... Pretty cool. I need to pull out my old Simmons SDS8 kit again lol.
Jared bouta win the next drum-off with this thing
kind of excitement if i have this unboxing kit!
holy moly that kit sound amazing
Suddenly my £450 TourTech TT22M with EZDrummer doesnt sound so bad ! ( ps I love my drums )
An E-Drum from the 80's that's why it sound 80's. Didn't expect much from it being a good e-drum or what. Unlike todays e-drums which are practically better sounding.
I swear, he could make a 1 hour video on drumsticks and make it interesting.
He did
THIS IS SO VERY COOL !!!!!!!!! I feel you are not a huge electronic drum guy, so this is quite awesome to watch !!!!! Well done Jared
I have the original rack mounted tone generators. It takes up a whole corner in our control room. It's basically a giant 808 and 909 amalgamation
Now those are some cool sounds. :)
Very much...uh...just cool! Reminds me of an old MIDI Soundblaster pumping out the sick tunes of DOOM (on PC-DOS, obviously!)
Talk about dinosaurs: I have an old Pearl Syncussion from 1979. Two small white drums, two channels. The same kit was used by New Order and OMD. Pheeeeeeeew-phew. :)
Rare doesnt mean not garbage..but still love it
I love that, the sounds and controls are very close to my Simmons SDS8 vintage kit. I believe out there there are still programmable eproms where you can save customized sounds (not sure that's applicable to this kit). A great find imo. Thank you for the video.
Drum kit is still not bad I like
Still sounds great !
It would be cool to see reaction videos from the drummers who come in and visit your studio play it. Could possibly be some new content for your channel!!
Rock on🤘🎸✌️80's.
I think Jared is hoping there's an 8-bit video game renaissance, so he can audition to be the soundtrack drummer 😂🤘
Awesome the kit looks really cool 🤩🥁
Cymbals sounded great! I take those drums right back to wherever you got them from. LOL
9:48 Soundhey? I love that guy!
OMG. I had one of those when they were new. It was during the time when drummers felt like we were becoming extinct to drum machines and all the tunes had that analog electronic drum sound. It had better feel than the Simmons kit. It got boring quickly though and I mostly ended up triggering my bass drum through the "brain". That was pretty awesome.
Hi
I did have this drum kit & Still have it till now.
I don't really want a Electric Kit, but I really want some drum triggers and mesh drum heads. This way I can still use samples on a regular drum set. I would also add in some Roland Cymbals
Digging the sounds on these. Sounds like something thats coming from an NES.
I just recently purchased an Alesis Nitro mesh kit. It's compact and has alot of options for the price.
I’m playing a td 17 kvx and I love it
just awesome man!! loved the video!! love drumeo!!
I had a Gretsch e-drum kit around the same time that this Tama came out and it had a similar head module. The only issue I had with it was the fact that you could bump the knobs and totally screw up the sound. There was no way to save settings. I played an entire gig with my bass drum sounding like it was from outer space because I had accidentally bumped the bend and decay up on that channel and I couldn't hear enough high end from my monitor to know. I was horrified when I heard the audio from the show and felt extremely embarrassed. I started taping down all but the volume knobs on every channel after that.
PS - you can make these sound much more like acoustic drums if you know what you're doing. LOL! There are no samples. These are all-analog modules.
Don't know about the pads, but these cymbals actually sound impressive :D
Jared, I see Christmas has come early for you sir! 😊
Every time he said "decay", I kept hearing "Takei" and I'm thinking "oh, myy"
Not the sound I was expecting but I'm satisfied.
I knew they would sound *bad* but I wasn't expecting them to sound THAT bad...
When I saw the original packaging I wanted to hear the song from the Josh Scott JHS guitar pedals videos.. "He has the box!" lol..
He has the box! 🎶
I purchased the Tama Tech Star set when they were first made in 1985, I could not really understand how to operate the controls and I had a hard time liking the sounds. I still have the set but haven’t played them in years.
Wow. This is how it is when you look back. 1985 seems like yesterday but the difference between this set and what's out there now is day and night. In it's day it was probably awesome but in retrospect it's a dinosaur. Sounds like one too. I guess I'm spoiled with my Roland td25 v-drums. But it would be cool to own just for the sake of owning it if space wasn't an issue. And I have owned 2 Tama acoustic sets so I love the brand.
Jared looks like himself at Christmas in 1988, if instead of opening and playing a Nintendo NES for the first time, he opened and played a Tama E-drum kit for the first time. What a rad visual.
Hello there nice drum set you got. I have some vintage drums too, I have the Yamaha ptx8 with the ptt8 toms. I also have the Roland DDR 30 with the price 31 and of 21 toms love them 🤘.
man... How I wanted to play some of those synth drums from the 80s... hahaha
I remember when that came out. Pretty cool.
Good, now let’s put it back in the box for another 35 years.
Oeh I would recognise VICARIOUS anywhere!! Hell yes!! 😁🤘🏻
Literally bought one of these new in the mid 80s. I remember thinking how cool it was, lol.
Cool! 🤩
Hey awesome video I also wish that I could play this drum which was created way back then!!!