Turned into a philosophy video halfway through. And I was completely here for it. Didn't think it was possible to like this guy any more than I already did.
The most underrated S&C channel on TH-cam. I love the long format videos in combination with your no nonsense short ones. Could you not edit your squat form so it skips the top of each rep/start of the next. It might just be my opinion but I’d rather see the full length video of the set personally rather than it looking like a loop of one rep. 500 for 8 is savage
‘Before I learned the art, a punch was just a punch, and a kick, just a kick. After I learned the art, a punch was no longer a punch, a kick, no longer a kick. Now that I understand the art, a punch is just a punch and a kick is just a kick "Bruce Lee. A squat now is just a squat
Hey Will, love your takes as they always give a ground for debate. You pointed out that eccentric loading at submaximal loads is not enough to cause adaptation and you’re right, but that’s weird because Cal states various times at seminars that he uses super maximal loading for the eccentric part of the movement and that makes a lot of sense for restructuring tissue. Second point is the fact that he states you can’t train multiple things at once and his programs often don’t do that. Totally agree on that. I think the biggest thing you’ve pointed out to me is the fact that stimulus is the goal and when you talked about rotational power it really made more sense to train power from a CNS standpoint rather than individual muscles. That being said there is extreme value in super maximal loading eccentricity and isometrics which Cal emphasizes. Again, always appreciate your take.💪🏼
It depends on the video. I watched almost all of Cal's videos and sometimes he will say he uses supramax loading and other times he says supramaximal loading causes injuries stating something like "I've seen athletes tear chest tendons and bicep tendons." I don't remember the year the videos were produced when he made each respective video, but I wouldn't doubt he transitioned from supramax to submax after a couple injuries.
Video suggestion: how you've been registering your workouts through years? How u do it with your 1on1 clients and when youve got groups/teams under your belt? Ive been following you for years alredy.. brilliant mind paired with straight to the point comunication ability you have... You're a gem. Thankyou for posting always interesting stuff
Taking your ego out of it I think refers to not getting emotionally attached to the outcome of an argument or debate, not making it about yourself. People who have their ego in the conversation present their ideas as a defense of themselves. They don't want to be wrong because they don't want to feel bad about themselves. You can detach while still thinking you are right and knowing your reasons. If you can update your views after being presented with evidence that conflicts with what you think without feeling attacked, then you know your ego isn't in it. That's how I see it
Like others said, I came for the squats, stayed for the philosophy. I agree with the open minded point because logically it doesn’t make sense for anyone to go into a discussion with a weak stance. Better to be wrong with strong convictions and lose because at least that shows based on your current knowledge and skills that is the best you had to bring than to go in wishy washy and switch side the moment someone finds a small crack in your argument, meaning you didn’t critically think to begin with. Subbed.
I really like the point you made on keeping it simple (Why xyz? Because it makes you faster/stronger/jump higher, ...) but it also contradicts the point on trap bar deadlifts imho. You could perfectly take the example you gave with Zercher squats, and replace it with trap bar deadlifts, and it would hold up just as well. On a different note, why do you clip the squats? (And the jumps for that matter.) Force of habit from the short form content?
Duuuuuude, Will, I'm loving this video format! Feels like we're just hanging out and shooting the shit! Pretty dope that you're championing Humility and admitting that having the "student" mindset is the the best way to keep growing! Also, I got your Hoss Olympic! I got zero experience with Olympic Lifts, so if you got advice for ya boy, hit me up! 👊😎
We should distinguish between the low handle trap bar dead vs the high handle. The high handle is basically a quarter squat variant. The low handle is a true DL variant.
Hey man i notice recently in my olympic weightlifting training when using the bounce in the high bar back squat that my calves are starting to hurt. I've probably tried every stretch out there and I dont think it is a mobillity issue because I can do pause squats with no pain and sit in a deep squat forever. I think this is because I'm not good at using the stretch reflex since im a newer weight lifter. And I also dont really feel my quads unless im front squating. (No pain with front squat btw). Have you ever had to deal with calf pain while squating too? If so how did u fix it? Also do you have any tips for learning the bounce/stretch reflex for the high bar back squat?
Talking between sets looks like a great format for you, good videos. Sidebar: I popped my lower back a week ago on light deadlifts with 160 kg. I'm reasonably certain it's because my right hip joint is "tighter" than my left, causing a noticeable shift and rotation in squatting and hinging. I'm sure I've had that for a while, just didn't notice cause I don't film myself much. Do you have any tips or suggestions for the hip issue moving forward? Obviously not as medical advice, but maybe from some experience. Whoever else reads this and has some suggestion, I'm all ears.
45 degree hypers worked wonders to heal my lower back. Just start slow with higher reps and then progress to some kind of 4x8 or sumn like that weighted with the bar on your neck.
Great video. I agree with you on a lot of what you said...even the Candance Owen stuff. I think I would fight you on your claim about Hex Bar deadlifts. If you are having to train a group of kids with little to no experience with a straight bar, it is much easier to get them started building strength. If it's one on one or even a small group I would agree the straight bar is superior. I'm curious, is your gripe only with French Contrast or Contrast Training?
Yes but some people have the strongest convictions for the dumbest things because that’s “how it’s always been done” I think there’s definitely a fine line between standing for convictions and always being “open”
Man your face and skull shape is so similar to mine, you must be my lost brother, i think I'd follow your training advice since we're so close genetically.
hey will, if you could be an olympic athlete, what events/sports would you want to compete in? and how would you set up your training for it? also do you do any walking/step counting for health?
Great video! My point of view of the trap deadlift is that if you put the COM(or the axis) of the trap bar align with the lateral malleolus it will force the lifter to dorsiflex the ankle which could led to a squat pattern, and if put the COM(or the axis) of the trap bar align with the midfoot,then the weight will be too far away from the body. In addition to that, I really appreciate your thoughts on the French contrast. Sorry for my English.😅
Regarding your take on access to presentation of ideas: You are riding a fine line with your take on "limiting access". I'm fine with the opinion that certain ideas should be respected, while others should be disrespected. That's absolutely true. However, where my disagreement with you begins is the idea that other individuals cannot decide for themselves what should be respected or disrespected. You, nor any other individual/entity, should be allowed to control what ideas/speech other individuals can choose to hear. One of the main premises of free speech is that the audience (other individuals) gets to decide what they do and do not want to hear. Not the government, nor anybody/any other establishment/any other institution. No matter how bad/stupid they are. In fact, freedom of speech most particular and especially applies to that kind of speech.
That’s called free speech absolutism, which I don’t support. You and I have a different point of view here, and either way, one of us is imposing a point of view on the other. And we absolutely have a framework to define parameters of what is and isn’t acceptable speech, in terms of guiding morality, the Bible does that for us.
@@willratelle8027 Human rights are binary. So yes, free speech is absolute. Each individual has their own parameters that defines what is and is not acceptable to them. You don't get to define what other people do and don't find acceptable to listen to. It's almost like you completely dismissed/dodged my point. Also, I don't have to respect your religion or your belief in religion. Therefore, I don't have to adhere to the bible's outline of morality when it comes to speech. Does that fall outside of your "parameters of acceptability"? Because that's exactly what the founding fathers sought to avoid when drafting the Bill of Rights. Why do you hate freedom so much?
Is PAP bs?, i.e. just a marketing scheme trying to embellish the effects of lifting something heavy on subsequent performance which could pretty much be gained from any regular warm-up such as a 10min moderate run?
Based asf video and takes on open mindedness. Too much hippie shit nowadays with people not wanting to think. The format of lifting heavy shit to get more fired up for the ensuing rants is great! And I feel vindicated for programming snatch grip deadlifts just because they “look more macho” and no other reason besides that 😂
F*ck you too, Will!! Jk. I am definitely one of those coaches that says soreness isn’t the *only* indicator of a good workout. Like your take, it absolutely CAN indicate a good workout. It just needs context. Soreness, sweating, fatigue, confidence, how much you lifted, etc all are very real indicators, but soreness isn’t the ONLY. I think from a gen pop perspective saying soreness isn’t the ONLY indicator helps because most people are starting from a near zero level of work capacity and competency in the gym and will likely get sore from very little effort, so they create a value system to judge your training with metrics like soreness, calories burned, how much they sweat, which leads them down a delicate and unreliable feedback system once they acquire some sort of baseline level of strength/fitness. Some of these “isms” in practice are actually helpful when you’re talking to coaches who have regular people paying them per session, but when you’re talking about training for yourself, get sore because it feels good and is good. I don’t know man. Who cares.
I didn’t get it. Less favourable of barbell deadlift vs trapbar? You mean you are open to using more trapbar to generate as much force with less mechanical tension?
It's cool that you're doing more of the longer format videos.
tbh I think the 2 minute videos are Will's wheelhouse and brand
Turned into a philosophy video halfway through. And I was completely here for it. Didn't think it was possible to like this guy any more than I already did.
Nothing better than lifting and thinking lol
“500 for 8 I’ll take that”. Lol
The most underrated S&C channel on TH-cam. I love the long format videos in combination with your no nonsense short ones. Could you not edit your squat form so it skips the top of each rep/start of the next. It might just be my opinion but I’d rather see the full length video of the set personally rather than it looking like a loop of one rep. 500 for 8 is savage
Good video - enjoy hearing your thoughts. Very to the point and real
‘Before I learned the art, a punch was just a punch, and a kick, just a kick. After I learned the art, a punch was no longer a punch, a kick, no longer a kick. Now that I understand the art, a punch is just a punch and a kick is just a kick "Bruce Lee. A squat now is just a squat
Hey Will, love your takes as they always give a ground for debate.
You pointed out that eccentric loading at submaximal loads is not enough to cause adaptation and you’re right, but that’s weird because Cal states various times at seminars that he uses super maximal loading for the eccentric part of the movement and that makes a lot of sense for restructuring tissue.
Second point is the fact that he states you can’t train multiple things at once and his programs often don’t do that. Totally agree on that.
I think the biggest thing you’ve pointed out to me is the fact that stimulus is the goal and when you talked about rotational power it really made more sense to train power from a CNS standpoint rather than individual muscles.
That being said there is extreme value in super maximal loading eccentricity and isometrics which Cal emphasizes.
Again, always appreciate your take.💪🏼
It depends on the video. I watched almost all of Cal's videos and sometimes he will say he uses supramax loading and other times he says supramaximal loading causes injuries stating something like "I've seen athletes tear chest tendons and bicep tendons." I don't remember the year the videos were produced when he made each respective video, but I wouldn't doubt he transitioned from supramax to submax after a couple injuries.
One of the most underrated s&c channel on TH-cam. You need more subscribers asap. Thanks for the info
Video suggestion: how you've been registering your workouts through years? How u do it with your 1on1 clients and when youve got groups/teams under your belt?
Ive been following you for years alredy.. brilliant mind paired with straight to the point comunication ability you have... You're a gem. Thankyou for posting always interesting stuff
Taking your ego out of it I think refers to not getting emotionally attached to the outcome of an argument or debate, not making it about yourself. People who have their ego in the conversation present their ideas as a defense of themselves. They don't want to be wrong because they don't want to feel bad about themselves. You can detach while still thinking you are right and knowing your reasons. If you can update your views after being presented with evidence that conflicts with what you think without feeling attacked, then you know your ego isn't in it. That's how I see it
Spot on about Mark Rippetoe. He doesn't speak like he's on reddit so people hate him now.
Like others said, I came for the squats, stayed for the philosophy. I agree with the open minded point because logically it doesn’t make sense for anyone to go into a discussion with a weak stance. Better to be wrong with strong convictions and lose because at least that shows based on your current knowledge and skills that is the best you had to bring than to go in wishy washy and switch side the moment someone finds a small crack in your argument, meaning you didn’t critically think to begin with. Subbed.
I really like the point you made on keeping it simple (Why xyz? Because it makes you faster/stronger/jump higher, ...) but it also contradicts the point on trap bar deadlifts imho. You could perfectly take the example you gave with Zercher squats, and replace it with trap bar deadlifts, and it would hold up just as well.
On a different note, why do you clip the squats? (And the jumps for that matter.) Force of habit from the short form content?
Dudes a monster im pretty sure im gay now
Changing your mind is a highly underrated skill. It’s a good thing. The amount of absolutist training garbage online is asinine.
500x8 at 225 is impressive bro keep it going!
Duuuuuude, Will, I'm loving this video format! Feels like we're just hanging out and shooting the shit! Pretty dope that you're championing Humility and admitting that having the "student" mindset is the the best way to keep growing!
Also, I got your Hoss Olympic! I got zero experience with Olympic Lifts, so if you got advice for ya boy, hit me up! 👊😎
real based takes boss
Great video bro thank you for the knowledge and philosophy
13:00 based
We should distinguish between the low handle trap bar dead vs the high handle. The high handle is basically a quarter squat variant. The low handle is a true DL variant.
you changed my mind on being open-minded. I guess my convictions on that matter weren't strong enough ;)
Stay strong, brother!
Great thoughts at the midpoint
The Closing of the American Mind is a great book critiquing academia's pursuit of openmindedness
Hey man i notice recently in my olympic weightlifting training when using the bounce in the high bar back squat that my calves are starting to hurt. I've probably tried every stretch out there and I dont think it is a mobillity issue because I can do pause squats with no pain and sit in a deep squat forever. I think this is because I'm not good at using the stretch reflex since im a newer weight lifter. And I also dont really feel my quads unless im front squating. (No pain with front squat btw). Have you ever had to deal with calf pain while squating too? If so how did u fix it? Also do you have any tips for learning the bounce/stretch reflex for the high bar back squat?
These longer videos are great
Talking between sets looks like a great format for you, good videos.
Sidebar: I popped my lower back a week ago on light deadlifts with 160 kg. I'm reasonably certain it's because my right hip joint is "tighter" than my left, causing a noticeable shift and rotation in squatting and hinging. I'm sure I've had that for a while, just didn't notice cause I don't film myself much. Do you have any tips or suggestions for the hip issue moving forward? Obviously not as medical advice, but maybe from some experience. Whoever else reads this and has some suggestion, I'm all ears.
45 degree hypers worked wonders to heal my lower back. Just start slow with higher reps and then progress to some kind of 4x8 or sumn like that weighted with the bar on your neck.
@@halassa5963 thanks man, the back is basically fine. I'm looking for a solution for the hip issue
Maybe unilateral leg training could help it helped me but everyone is different it may not do shit for you haha. Hope you get it figured out boss.
@@PullsPressesCarries thank you, will definitely do more uni work
Great video. I agree with you on a lot of what you said...even the Candance Owen stuff. I think I would fight you on your claim about Hex Bar deadlifts. If you are having to train a group of kids with little to no experience with a straight bar, it is much easier to get them started building strength. If it's one on one or even a small group I would agree the straight bar is superior.
I'm curious, is your gripe only with French Contrast or Contrast Training?
I don’t really like either but I’ll was specifically talking about French contrast in this video
Yes but some people have the strongest convictions for the dumbest things because that’s “how it’s always been done” I think there’s definitely a fine line between standing for convictions and always being “open”
The longer video format
Turn that flag around Holmes. Union upper left corner. Great video!
Great video
There's a storm in your
head.
Man your face and skull shape is so similar to mine, you must be my lost brother, i think I'd follow your training advice since we're so close genetically.
"Ben shapiro is a loser" correct.
Gonna do 300 DB snatch today to get sore.
is this guy natty?he is insanely strong 😮
The pursuit of open-mindedness (vs pursuit of truth) is very feminine. It's finding consensus so you won't get kicked out of the group
Yep
hey will, if you could be an olympic athlete, what events/sports would you want to compete in? and how would you set up your training for it?
also do you do any walking/step counting for health?
500 lbs for 8 reps is nuts.
What do you think about THP strength John evans and Isaiah Rivera there more track style training
blue stars (union) section top left brother
how would you include jump/dunks sessions into hoss project? also, would you recommend it in-season, where youre having 3 days of practice a week?
Hell yea I love feeling sore …I love not being able to get off the toilet 😂
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Great video! My point of view of the trap deadlift is that if you put the COM(or the axis) of the trap bar align with the lateral malleolus it will force the lifter to dorsiflex the ankle which could led to a squat pattern, and if put the COM(or the axis) of the trap bar align with the midfoot,then the weight will be too far away from the body. In addition to that, I really appreciate your thoughts on the French contrast.
Sorry for my English.😅
The 500 squat is 8 singles? In the video you can see there are cuts in between the reps.
I uploaded the full set without any cuts
Regarding your take on access to presentation of ideas: You are riding a fine line with your take on "limiting access".
I'm fine with the opinion that certain ideas should be respected, while others should be disrespected. That's absolutely true.
However, where my disagreement with you begins is the idea that other individuals cannot decide for themselves what should be respected or disrespected.
You, nor any other individual/entity, should be allowed to control what ideas/speech other individuals can choose to hear. One of the main premises of free speech is that the audience (other individuals) gets to decide what they do and do not want to hear. Not the government, nor anybody/any other establishment/any other institution. No matter how bad/stupid they are. In fact, freedom of speech most particular and especially applies to that kind of speech.
That’s called free speech absolutism, which I don’t support. You and I have a different point of view here, and either way, one of us is imposing a point of view on the other. And we absolutely have a framework to define parameters of what is and isn’t acceptable speech, in terms of guiding morality, the Bible does that for us.
So you're okay if your kid reads pedo books in school and teachers telling them ithey should be trans?
Preaching controlled access to free speech while claiming religion as some arbiter on morality/behaviour is wild😂
@@willratelle8027 Human rights are binary. So yes, free speech is absolute. Each individual has their own parameters that defines what is and is not acceptable to them. You don't get to define what other people do and don't find acceptable to listen to. It's almost like you completely dismissed/dodged my point.
Also, I don't have to respect your religion or your belief in religion. Therefore, I don't have to adhere to the bible's outline of morality when it comes to speech. Does that fall outside of your "parameters of acceptability"? Because that's exactly what the founding fathers sought to avoid when drafting the Bill of Rights. Why do you hate freedom so much?
@@Monaleen85 I agree.
Is PAP bs?, i.e. just a marketing scheme trying to embellish the effects of lifting something heavy on subsequent performance which could pretty much be gained from any regular warm-up such as a 10min moderate run?
Yes
North Dakota? Ain't that sumthin
Where do I find the podcast?
Band asssited jumps are the stupidest trendy bs they simply do not work
You're tank top matches you're upper body 😅🤝❤🏋️♂️💪🍻
Little hats shouldn't be defining the parameters of our Overton Window. Especially not to benefit israel. That should be the main takeaway.
Great work. What were your Squat back off sets? How did you make the jump to 500 for 8 also loading wise.
425x8 and 435x8. I started at 135, the 225, 315, 405, 455, then 500.
Based asf video and takes on open mindedness. Too much hippie shit nowadays with people not wanting to think. The format of lifting heavy shit to get more fired up for the ensuing rants is great! And I feel vindicated for programming snatch grip deadlifts just because they “look more macho” and no other reason besides that 😂
how much do you weigh?
225-230
Are you 240 pounds?
225ish
F*ck you too, Will!! Jk.
I am definitely one of those coaches that says soreness isn’t the *only* indicator of a good workout. Like your take, it absolutely CAN indicate a good workout.
It just needs context. Soreness, sweating, fatigue, confidence, how much you lifted, etc all are very real indicators, but soreness isn’t the ONLY.
I think from a gen pop perspective saying soreness isn’t the ONLY indicator helps because most people are starting from a near zero level of work capacity and competency in the gym and will likely get sore from very little effort, so they create a value system to judge your training with metrics like soreness, calories burned, how much they sweat, which leads them down a delicate and unreliable feedback system once they acquire some sort of baseline level of strength/fitness.
Some of these “isms” in practice are actually helpful when you’re talking to coaches who have regular people paying them per session, but when you’re talking about training for yourself, get sore because it feels good and is good.
I don’t know man. Who cares.
I didn’t get it. Less favourable of barbell deadlift vs trapbar? You mean you are open to using more trapbar to generate as much force with less mechanical tension?
I’m less favorable towards a trap bar deadlift than I used to be.
What do you think about THP strength John evans and Isaiah Rivera there more track style training