Very nice. Excellent product review. Might suggest product reviews be numbered if you continue the series. I just recently stumbled upon your videos and these are great! Fun to watch.
The mantus swivel does look good and designed by a sailor. The swivel is also often suggested to allow the anchor twist into the right position when it comes into the bow roller. If you are in 20-30' of water would the anchor chain untwist as soon as it's broken free while you are raising it? Most anchoring I do is in tidal water with current so floating around my anchor is not much of a problem, I'm surprised you said you need a swivel in the PNW as that has strong current in that area. Mantus suggest you can dissamble the swivel to remove marine growth like barnacles if you anchor for a month or so , a good idea compared to a 'fixed swivel'. Good on the boat review. Cheers. Warren
Interesting. I've watched lots of videos of cruisers and I don't believe I've ever seen a swivel on an anchor chain, and I don't think they've ever mentioned getting twists in the chain. I'll be paying more attention now to see if it's being used.
+BeachBow I think I might have to do with the region, I know when we where in the PNW and we didn't have a swivel people mocked us, and for good reason as a mentioned in the review. I'd say about 50% of the boat we meet cruising full time use a type of swivel.
+Titus Tiger we really want to and might make a pit.2 follow up. Sadly the water clarity where we have been summing is dismal, I mean 5 foot vis would be considered a good day! But we shall! I'm curious what it look like as well! Cheers
Good review and thanks for posting. My thoughts on swivels are that I'm not sure the chain will provide enough rotational force to actually spin it while the chain is under load and on the ones we've used they always pack in with mud and never spin at all. Maybe area that are more sandy a swivel will work better. Thanks again.
+David Duncan we have had the chance to use it in sand and thick mud in river mouths, seems to rotate well regardless, defiantly it helps if it's clean but there seems to be little to no twist, where we are at as we speak ill be a very good test, thick mud, tons of current lots of spinning, I'll stay in touch and tell you how it goes.
I don't like Mantus anchors but I love this swivel. It is heavy duty and works great. Been using it for a year and I really think my anchor sets faster. I am using a 35 lb. Manson Supreme anchor.
What windless do you have? And if you had a choice would you have gone with a different make and model? Not above stealing a trick. Very much like your input. Thanks in advance.
We have a Muir and we love it. Thing has been bulletproof and it's almost 25 years old. Just had it apart to check everything and ended up greasing it and putting it back on. Highly recommend.
great review.... can you guys do a review on Handheld VHF units.... and offshore fishing.... tack, rod or handheld lines.... I look forward to you videos and glad to see you guys back on the ball with updates
We've had great results with the Mantus swive (and anchor). Our podcast's episode 11 talks about their swivel and anchor hook. The Mantus hook is the coolest, too.
I don't know if you have ever seen Unbox Therapy but everyone loves his channel because if it does not work the way it's claimed to he will say so. People love honest reviews, Lew has 5 million subscribers because he's tells it like it is.
I ditched the cheap swivel when I left the PNW as well. Worked great for the diurnal tides in the Salish though. Otherwise the chain would get twisted and if you were hooked up for several days, would unhook the anchor. I took it off when we did the passage to San Fran and will just stick with chain to shackle to anchor until another tidal area. Good video for those dockside fear mongers who warn about swivels. They work, but you gotta be careful and pay close attention. Cheers.
Very nice reviewv ! And yes I do have a suggestion on what you might want to review and I guess there would be thousands of other boaters just as interested as me.I have been looking for the perfect tablet for a boat that you could use with navionics and google earth.I love to use my chart plotter and the tablet with google earth right next to each other . Phantastic in shallow areas with deeper Chanels like here in the keys or places like the Bahamas. I think most people use an iPad for navionics. Problem is the visibility in sunlight. In bright sun it's almost useless. I have been searching around and came up on several rugged tablets like the dell latitude ,Getac rugged , IP67 all weather all of whom claim to be sunlight readable. But then in a review I read that the sunlight visibility of the dell isn't all that great.I have been thinking to maybe write to Garmin or simrad or ray marine. please make a dedicated marine tablet. I am sure there would be a very high demand for it.I wondered sometimes, why is my 10' Garmin chart plotter so expensive compared to a tablet that can do much much more. But the visibility of the screen is awesome so I guess most of the money is for the screen.Well if you could get your hands on a few rugged tablets and review them would be awesome.
How about a bit of advice/comment on something you already have...? Teak decks. I LOVE teak decks but all I hear from couch sailors is 'take them off... too hot in the tropics'. Can we get some 'real world' advice on Prism's teak decks?
+Rodger Snyder well their anchor shares the same design principle as a few others ( spade, roncna, Manson) but it does break down which is cool, the spade does as well. We use the spade mainly due to the size, it is much smaller dimensionally pound for pound, and it is designed without the roll bar so if fits nicely in our bowsprit. Sadly the spade costs double the amount though. Cheers
Funny how you say the weight of the swivel helps penetration but anchor designers spend all there time trying to keep shanks light as possible and more weight at the tip
You did a really great job on a review. However, I am skeptical about the need for an anchor swivel. I have anchored many boats hundreds of times in the Pacific Northwest without an anchor swivel and have never had my chain twist. When the anchor is dangling from the boat during deployment the chain will untwist. Also a boat tends to wander clockwise and counterclockwise an equal amount of times over time. It seems like an unnecessary risk adding a potential failure point to your ground tackle. But if you're going to do it that beefy swivels the way to go!
+Christopher Young hey Chris, just our experience, maybe Prism likes doing circles more than other boats, all we know our chain will start looking like a pretzel if we don't straiten it out. Thanks for watching, cheers
Just to let you know that the way you attached your double jaw swivel is asking for failure as is connecting directly on your anchor shank which is worse than your setup. The correct use is to put enough chain between anchor and swivel to prevent side loads of any kind as side loads will break the swivel quickly. The Mantus swivel looks interesting as it eliminates the need for this complication. Cheers
+ParrotSailor I have seen others do this and it makes sense. According to suncor they want direct contact form anchor shank to swivel, then swivel to chain. Not my recommendation but the manufacturers. Cheers
and the manufacturer is wrong. Many ground tackle failures have been documented by doing this including many boat losses sadly.As an engineer myself I can tell you that side loads causing shearing forces from a fluke on the anchor jamming temporarily on a rock etc will shear the pin as the shear strength is much lower than the tensile strength of the system. This is why many experts forswear the use of them altogether. Your new mantus swivels seems to confront several design issues.Please keep us informed
Nice Battery you have made. Stainless steel swivel and galvanised anchor and chain are not the best companions in salt water. I have seen an example of a badly eroded stainless shackle used to connect a galvanised chain to a galvanised anchor
I like Anchor Swivel have always used a swivel on both my anchors an my mooring. The cove I was moored in was taken over by a commercial mariner an they drop a lot of moorings with swivels woke up one morning to a bumping against my hull one of the boats chain had twisted so much that he was rubbing the paint off my hull. complained to the boat yard they said it was not their fault the owner of the boat should have checked if they had a swivel. even though the yard rented it to them. I was pissed.
It was the boat yard had to much money couldn't afford to fight him he ended taking over the whole cove. got in with harbor master couldn't win what ever we private people did was not right. finale just gave up. sold boat an got a smaller one.
"we have nothing to do with mantus they just sent us one to test" no, no reason to give a good review to encourage more sponsored. The other swivel was the wrong size for the boat they are sold in different sizes. plus the shakle was the wrong way around in their old swivel. Now not saying there's was any influence but is you have a company gifting you stuff like a sponsor then they do so in the hope of a favourable review. And that my friends is how marketing works.
+Angus Whitehouse the suncor is of proper size, it is the one made for 5/16" chain, the 5/8" shackle is oriented that way not for the swivel but for the anchor. The s120 spade does not have enough space in the shank to let the 5/8" shackle pass through, so we where required to use the threaded side toward the anchor. Not perfect. There is defiantly marketing going in for Mantus here, but in our opinion it has been earned. When I talked to the owner of Mantus, I was strait with him and warned that if it didn't work I was going to post my findings. Greg was confident in his product and let us do the review under those terms. Thanks for watching! Cheers
+Sailing Vessel Prism (SV PRISM) cool. All good they are a good product so your review was a great explanation of the need for these products. Sorry do enjoy your channel and it just made me laugh the way you made the statement at the start. Glad though that your reviewing because as yachting equipment is so expensive so it's great to not have to waste money.
Very nice review, I especially liked your explanation of the need for a swivel. Thank you.
You keep sailing and reviewing, we'll keep watching....
Very nice. Excellent product review. Might suggest product reviews be numbered if you continue the series. I just recently stumbled upon your videos and these are great! Fun to watch.
Yes I did enjoy your review...I also loved the background sound of the boat going through the water...
+billyl allen non avoidable, but I'm glad you enjoyed it! Cheers
The mantus swivel does look good and designed by a sailor. The swivel is also often suggested to allow the anchor twist into the right position when it comes into the bow roller. If you are in 20-30' of water would the anchor chain untwist as soon as it's broken free while you are raising it?
Most anchoring I do is in tidal water with current so floating around my anchor is not much of a problem, I'm surprised you said you need a swivel in the PNW as that has strong current in that area.
Mantus suggest you can dissamble the swivel to remove marine growth like barnacles if you anchor for a month or so , a good idea compared to a 'fixed swivel'.
Good on the boat review. Cheers. Warren
That was an excellent review. By that, I don't mean the product performance but your performance. Nice job and thanks!
+Jonathan Landwer thanks!
Interesting. I've watched lots of videos of cruisers and I don't believe I've ever seen a swivel on an anchor chain, and I don't think they've ever mentioned getting twists in the chain. I'll be paying more attention now to see if it's being used.
+BeachBow I think I might have to do with the region, I know when we where in the PNW and we didn't have a swivel people mocked us, and for good reason as a mentioned in the review. I'd say about 50% of the boat we meet cruising full time use a type of swivel.
excellent tangent.. this is a great addition to your vlog
Did you think about recording the swivel underwater when the anchor was set
+Titus Tiger we really want to and might make a pit.2 follow up. Sadly the water clarity where we have been summing is dismal, I mean 5 foot vis would be considered a good day! But we shall! I'm curious what it look like as well! Cheers
great
Good review and thanks for posting. My thoughts on swivels are that I'm not sure the chain will provide enough rotational force to actually spin it while the chain is under load and on the ones we've used they always pack in with mud and never spin at all. Maybe area that are more sandy a swivel will work better. Thanks again.
+David Duncan we have had the chance to use it in sand and thick mud in river mouths, seems to rotate well regardless, defiantly it helps if it's clean but there seems to be little to no twist, where we are at as we speak ill be a very good test, thick mud, tons of current lots of spinning, I'll stay in touch and tell you how it goes.
80 bucks 7 years ago . Ive just bought an ultra swivel here in Au 2023 ...it cost me $550 au ...!!!
Just brought mine(S2) £127 inc delivery here in the UK
I don't like Mantus anchors but I love this swivel. It is heavy duty and works great. Been using it for a year and I really
think my anchor sets faster. I am using a 35 lb. Manson Supreme anchor.
It's September 13th. Where are you guys??
What windless do you have? And if you had a choice would you have gone with a different make and model? Not above stealing a trick. Very much like your input. Thanks in advance.
We have a Muir and we love it. Thing has been bulletproof and it's almost 25 years old. Just had it apart to check everything and ended up greasing it and putting it back on. Highly recommend.
great review.... can you guys do a review on Handheld VHF units.... and offshore fishing.... tack, rod or handheld lines.... I look forward to you videos and glad to see you guys back on the ball with updates
+wardell Junius we can try, our hand held vhf kinda sucks but once we get to a place with more boats maybe we can gather a larger spectrum of them
We've had great results with the Mantus swive (and anchor). Our podcast's episode 11 talks about their swivel and anchor hook. The Mantus hook is the coolest, too.
+Slow Boat Sailing hey Linus, Greg is really putting out some great products at a good price point
This is great! Please do more reviews!
+Ilian Georgiev that's the plan! Cheers
I love this, real world opinions and not dock sailors guessing what works best in theory.
+Matt Riser that's the idea, we will keep the reviews coming out!
I don't know if you have ever seen Unbox Therapy but everyone loves his channel because if it does not work the way it's claimed to he will say so. People love honest reviews, Lew has 5 million subscribers because he's tells it like it is.
Good review, very informative. Perhaps a review on a self stabilizing spinnaker, like the Parasailor?
That's a lot of money for a customized sail review....
+shinybaldy ya, I'm down to ask the company, but it defiantly outside our budget.
I ditched the cheap swivel when I left the PNW as well. Worked great for the diurnal tides in the Salish though. Otherwise the chain would get twisted and if you were hooked up for several days, would unhook the anchor. I took it off when we did the passage to San Fran and will just stick with chain to shackle to anchor until another tidal area. Good video for those dockside fear mongers who warn about swivels. They work, but you gotta be careful and pay close attention. Cheers.
+SV Satori you guys know the drill. Cheers
Very nice reviewv ! And yes I do have a suggestion on what you might want to review and I guess there would be thousands of other boaters just as interested as me.I have been looking for the perfect tablet for a boat that you could use with navionics and google earth.I love to use my chart plotter and the tablet with google earth right next to each other . Phantastic in shallow areas with deeper Chanels like here in the keys or places like the Bahamas. I think most people use an iPad for navionics. Problem is the visibility in sunlight. In bright sun it's almost useless. I have been searching around and came up on several rugged tablets like the dell latitude ,Getac rugged , IP67 all weather all of whom claim to be sunlight readable. But then in a review I read that the sunlight visibility of the dell isn't all that great.I have been thinking to maybe write to Garmin or simrad or ray marine. please make a dedicated marine tablet. I am sure there would be a very high demand for it.I wondered sometimes, why is my 10' Garmin chart plotter so expensive compared to a tablet that can do much much more. But the visibility of the screen is awesome so I guess most of the money is for the screen.Well if you could get your hands on a few rugged tablets and review them would be awesome.
great review and explanation. Keep them coming
good review ,I will keep them in mind,fair winds ,,paul
That was excellent: I'll definitely be giving one a try. Cheers.
Whats up Prisim it's been a while since you've posted I'm looking forward to the next adventure .
How about a bit of advice/comment on something you already have...? Teak decks. I LOVE teak decks but all I hear from couch sailors is 'take them off... too hot in the tropics'. Can we get some 'real world' advice on Prism's teak decks?
Good feature. I've heard good things about their 'unique' anchor as well.
wavesfromSeattle
+Rodger Snyder well their anchor shares the same design principle as a few others ( spade, roncna, Manson) but it does break down which is cool, the spade does as well. We use the spade mainly due to the size, it is much smaller dimensionally pound for pound, and it is designed without the roll bar so if fits nicely in our bowsprit. Sadly the spade costs double the amount though. Cheers
Funny how you say the weight of the swivel helps penetration but anchor designers spend all there time trying to keep shanks light as possible and more weight at the tip
Enjoyed the review, keep them up.
will do!
You did a really great job on a review. However, I am skeptical about the need for an anchor swivel. I have anchored many boats hundreds of times in the Pacific Northwest without an anchor swivel and have never had my chain twist. When the anchor is dangling from the boat during deployment the chain will untwist. Also a boat tends to wander clockwise and counterclockwise an equal amount of times over time. It seems like an unnecessary risk adding a potential failure point to your ground tackle. But if you're going to do it that beefy swivels the way to go!
+Christopher Young hey Chris, just our experience, maybe Prism likes doing circles more than other boats, all we know our chain will start looking like a pretzel if we don't straiten it out. Thanks for watching, cheers
Just to let you know that the way you attached your double jaw swivel is asking for failure as is connecting directly on your anchor shank which is worse than your setup. The correct use is to put enough chain between anchor and swivel to prevent side loads of any kind as side loads will break the swivel quickly. The Mantus swivel looks interesting as it eliminates the need for this complication. Cheers
+ParrotSailor I have seen others do this and it makes sense. According to suncor they want direct contact form anchor shank to swivel, then swivel to chain. Not my recommendation but the manufacturers. Cheers
and the manufacturer is wrong. Many ground tackle failures have been documented by doing this including many boat losses sadly.As an engineer myself I can tell you that side loads causing shearing forces from a fluke on the anchor jamming temporarily on a rock etc will shear the pin as the shear strength is much lower than the tensile strength of the system. This is why many experts forswear the use of them altogether. Your new mantus swivels seems to confront several design issues.Please keep us informed
Did you say BLOW and LOAD in the same review....
He also said penetration
What program do you use for doing your editing you videos?
+Fred Meyling Final Cut Pro X
Great info. Just ordered one.
Nice Battery you have made. Stainless steel swivel and galvanised anchor and chain are not the best companions in salt water. I have seen an example of a badly eroded stainless shackle used to connect a galvanised chain to a galvanised anchor
nice as always
+Paul Askvig cheers Paul!
What I needed to know... Thanks
I like Anchor Swivel have always used a swivel on both my anchors an my mooring. The cove I was moored in was taken over by a commercial mariner an they drop a lot of moorings with swivels woke up one morning to a bumping against my hull one of the boats chain had twisted so much that he was rubbing the paint off my hull. complained to the boat yard they said it was not their fault the owner of the boat should have checked if they had a swivel. even though the yard rented it to them. I was pissed.
+Ronald Johnson yikes, sounds like a cruddy situation.
It was the boat yard had to much money couldn't afford to fight him he ended taking over the whole cove. got in with harbor master couldn't win what ever we private people did was not right. finale just gave up. sold boat an got a smaller one.
Well Done!
+JostVanDykeFan cheers!
Awesomeness!
I just ordred one :D
Nice job,
How about a real world review of your lovely Hans Christian.
Sail on.
Joseph and Marci
+Joseph Paravia I think I would be a little too biased
great info, thanks!!
+Peeps no worries, cheers
Well done. Thanks
"we have nothing to do with mantus they just sent us one to test" no, no reason to give a good review to encourage more sponsored. The other swivel was the wrong size for the boat they are sold in different sizes. plus the shakle was the wrong way around in their old swivel.
Now not saying there's was any influence but is you have a company gifting you stuff like a sponsor then they do so in the hope of a favourable review. And that my friends is how marketing works.
+Angus Whitehouse the suncor is of proper size, it is the one made for 5/16" chain, the 5/8" shackle is oriented that way not for the swivel but for the anchor. The s120 spade does not have enough space in the shank to let the 5/8" shackle pass through, so we where required to use the threaded side toward the anchor. Not perfect. There is defiantly marketing going in for Mantus here, but in our opinion it has been earned. When I talked to the owner of Mantus, I was strait with him and warned that if it didn't work I was going to post my findings. Greg was confident in his product and let us do the review under those terms. Thanks for watching! Cheers
+Sailing Vessel Prism (SV PRISM) cool. All good they are a good product so your review was a great explanation of the need for these products.
Sorry do enjoy your channel and it just made me laugh the way you made the statement at the start.
Glad though that your reviewing because as yachting equipment is so expensive so it's great to not have to waste money.
It’s $120 in 2021!!!!
You got a FREE unit to test and there is no bias? Seriously.........