Its a Diesel Train Video
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
- Classic Heritage railway footage. Plenty of Diesel train action in this video. Footage taken at the east Lancashire railway, East lancs railway. Plus we talk about the class 56 story. Briefly from their conception to the disastrous construction of the first 30 locomotives. Class 40 class 50 class 25 class 42 warship. class 56 British rail Diesel locomotives.
I love the diesel videos. I spent ages scouring TH-cam for informative videos about them only to find hours of diesel thrash videos (nothing wrong with that at all btw, I was just looking for something deeper). This is EXACTLY what I wanted to find!
Thanks very much, really glad you enjoyed.
Please don't apologize for showing a railway video. The filming was just excellent, as usual. Keep up the good work.
Thank you 👍
Awesome trains! No need to apologize for filming trains. That's what I film!
Thanks, yes I do love my trains
Well there something that I learnt in this video that I didn't knew about, the Class 56 story, great video.
Recently came across your channel. Slowly going through them. I came across this one. I live just a short walk from the train tracks where I live. Every day three plus times a day I watch Diesel trains pulling containers. They vary in length. The short ones just about 20 where the longest ones are over 60 containers. Each time I see any of these I realise that for every container being pulled by a Diesel. That is one lorry off the road. Therefore if 1 diesel train pulls 60 containers that means 60 road vehicles are off the road and not adding to the pollution. Why can we not go back when most of the freight was moved on rails.
Yeah, love your videos anyway...it’s quite an education and I have acquired much knowledge about the industrial heritage around Manchester...keep ‘em com in’!
This brings back memories! I grew up with a house backing on to the mainline out of Waterloo. It was also a freight line. I became adept at being able to tell what engine was coming just by the sound!
I really enjoyed this video :)
Thanks 👍
Brilliant video! Love the diesel locomotives and I'd love to get a class 56 for haulage. I have to disagree with you on the Ladas however! I still drive a Lada Riva as my everyday car and she's the most reliable car I've ever owned! I've had her for 7 years and loved every minute of owning a Lada! I've also owned a Trabant!
Ever thought of volunteering Martin? Sounds like you would really enjoy it.
I would but all I want to do is drive one 😆
@@MartinZero Martin if you can join and train as a diesel secondman, that's what I do at my local heritage line and now I get to drive these fantastic machines on a regular basis (I have now driven classes 03,17,20,31,33,37,50 & the brilliant 55's all because I volunteer).
You cant beat a bit of flange squeal! Love the class 47 myself. Lets have some more, Martin! Surprised on 26 other people liked this vid!
Hello thanks very much. I do like a bit of flange squeal myself in the mornings.😆👍
My brother was a train spotter back in the early 80's. He used to come home talking about Rats, Peaks, Hoovers and Duffs. Can still see the quizzical look on my Dad's face
As a Steam Driver on a couple of miniature lines I must protest at the lack of aforesaid STEAM! LOL. Nice to see some classic infernal confusion. I remember seeing Onslaught at Paddington in 1969, I was 4 and it impressed me, sitting ready for the off. When he got the peg the sound was fantastic from that Maybach as she took the weight of the train.... Happy days. Saw and was hauled by the 40 at Easter when the Scotsman was at Bury and Tornado was on the visit. Was just up visiting my Son in Hindley and he wanted to take me over to the East Lancs. A fine Railway. More please.....
Hi Douglas, back in the day, I was very much pro Diesel but as Ive grown up I appreciate both now. Paddington 1969 wow that must have been something to see 👍
Electroputere engines ran fine for tens of years in Romania, so maybe the truth is somewhere in between? Maintenance was maybe due more frequently, but they still carried cars for decades. Some of them are still in use today. BTW, it's pronounced Electro Pooh-Teh-Reh (putere means power, so electro power).
Love the shirt but steam is king.... But I will admit that diesel is much more efficient to operate. How in the world did somebody think up the Napier Deltic and them make it work? It's amazing..... Great video....
Hi Martin superp video. If you are interested in class 56 locomotives there's two of them acting as shunters at peak Forest. I don't know if you've heard of the place, it's just outside of Buxton off the A6 and it called Dale road. There is two there that are normally used Monday to Friday, and sometimes Saturday as well, may be worth a visit to see them in action, shunting aggregate wagons.
I've read somewhere that the whistle of a class 40 or class 20's is a result of the supercharger.
No apology needed, I must be getting old, I was excited to see a Warship. Lol, takes me back to my early teens
This is really interesting Martin. Worked at the ELR for years and never knew any of this.
great video that martin class 50 what machines they are
Only ever been here once and thoroughly enjoyed it. Have you ever been to Llangollen? Their heritage railway is pretty awesome. Another really enjoyable one mate. Cheers
Hi Lewis. Never been Llangollen no. Thats gonna be a trip. Cheers
Yeah well worth a visit mate, also Pontcysyllte Aqueduct just down the road too
Around Wigan (Springs Branch) Going on the old Bickershaw Colliery route Which is Worth an explore (Maze of Old Lines) The Traction was Nearly Always Class 20's with 40's 31's 37's and 42's & 47's delivering HAA Hoppers and 10 Ton mineral wagons
The Older direct route Takes you towards Atherton Tyldesley and Rejoins the Bolton -Manchester Route @ Agecroft Supplying Both Agecroft and indirectly Kearsley Power stations the other supply route was from Rosegrove colliery nr Burnley which Served Padiham power station(Local) Via Blackburn and Darwen
I used to Watch the Trains Pass in Darwen in the early 60's (Hollins Goods yard) waved at the Trains Got waved back and an occasional Whistle
The other Traffic @ Hollins Goods was Rolls Of Paper for the Nearby Crown Wallpaper factory
where the Bus Station In Bolton Is that part which Juts out eastward Used to be a very Tight Double track west to North Junction with It was Called Bolton West Signal box controlling the that end of Bolton station and the Only traffic was a odd Diversion(Blackburn to Liverpool?) and Goods/Coal traffic wbsframe.mste.co.uk/public/Bolton_West.html .
Whole Bolton area Has been heavily Rationalized Rail side.since the 1970's! (compare Maps between Moses Gate and Bolton )
Thank you Mike great info. Brilliant pics on that link
Class 40s are the iconic Northern Loco for me. Used to lay in bed as a kid listening to them whistling away Guide Bridge sidings through open windows in the Summer.
Brilliant Mark. I once had a picture on my wall of a 40 heading unusually towards Reading or somewhere. The magazine caption read something like 'The signalman telegraphs forward down the line to warn of the Northern Invader' !!! 👌
Gotta love these old beasts 😃
I recently stumbled upon your channel and I love watching the drains and trains videos, I really miss adventuring in the wilderness. The rebuilding reminds me of when my work purchased locomotives from China filled with cheap steel, wire and asbestos and fell apart in our substandard conditions. Cheers from Marton, New Zealand 🇳🇿
Thanks Christopher, best regards to New Zealand
As a child, 12 ish, my Mum used to let me go to Crewe to look at the new 400s, about 150 miles away. Long time ago, no one would give a kid such trust now, sad really, kids are more capable then we give em credit for
Wow great stuff 😃
That horn (ho-ONK) is really evocative, almost makes me nostalgic despite never having heard it before.
Yeah, I grew up with that sound
Thanks for the warning - it was great!
Superb video Martin, I was at Bury for the Autumn steam gala if you are interested you can see the video on my channel.
Great Stuff Philip, Ill take a look
Next time you go there you will have to make a longer video, maybe a trip to Ramsbottom?
Yeah there is a place up there I want to see
Never expected to see my country mentioned here, of all places... :)
Thanks Attila
Yeah Martin never apologies for train video but of a geek myself when it comes to trains steam and diesel
Cheers Gareth 😆
Martin, I love all your work but I especially enjoyed these train videos. Have you ever considered doing a video tour of a train museum? I'm sure you would do a fantastic job of it. On a kind of similar note, maybe a video of the Crossness pumping station or some of the big preserved mill engines like the ones Fred Dibnah used to visit?
The class 40s were also English Electric and had the knick name of whistlers due the sound.
Probably the most iconic was the Class 55 deltics rated at 3300hp.
As a Manchester boy you may enjoy this.
Beyer Peacock was a Manchester company who built Steam Locos that were sold around the world?
In the early 50s a 4 8 4 + 4 84 Garratt was made for the NSWs railways .
They were built in Manchester then sent to Australia as kits.
Many are preserved but one has been fully rebuilt to working order?
Here is some video of the huge loco running
th-cam.com/video/izGyzZmhXec/w-d-xo.html
Brilliant Martin like your train spotting videos, spot on .
Thanks Alan
Remember seeing the class 50's at Newton Heath depot in the 70's...those days they worked the Manchester - Glasgow's before electrification, they moved down south when the electrics took over.
Those 56s were bloody awful. There were screws hammered into things. All a far cry from the EE Class 50 and the like, though the 50's were plagued with problems to do with their electronic this and that. Many blamed the Dynamic Brakes, these use the motors as generators, and the power given off goes through resistances to provide an electrical load. The idea worked well on electric locos and trains, and on EE kit elsewhere mind. I worked on the baby EE engines, an inline 4-cylinder called a 4SRKT of 500 - 600 HP. These were put into diesel railcar sets on the old Southern Region, and these "DEMUs" had electric drive. It made more sense than underfloor bus engines as used elsewhere, we had a great many straight electric units after all. They eventually became Classes 201/202/203 ( with buffet car ) 204/205/206 and 207. The 201s-203s were gangwayed within the 6 car sets, and known as Hastings Units. They were gone by 1987. 204s and 206s were hybrids, all gone by the mid 90s, but the 205s, known as Hampshires, or Berkshires ( bigger brake van on a Berkshire ) and the 207s ran until 2005. Not all survived to the end. Blue asbestos and corrosion, plus the odd pitch - in, took their toll. Amazing the junk this old SR Motorman recalls LOL. Similar sets were built for Northern Ireland, and the first place to get them was Egypt, of all countries !
Sounds like the class 56 was the British railways version of the Austin Allegro or any other 1970s British Leyland car lol 😁
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Yep the sound of my childhood as we lived in Stalybridge My bedroom was across the Valley from the Stalybridge line where the hartshead power station was.The same sounds that floated across the Valley at night as I fell asleep.Takes me back👍🏼
Can't beat a good Diesel Locomotive!
Great to see variety amongst your wealth of great videos. Thank you for sharing.
Love the class 50...
Me too 😃
The 56- my favourite 'modern'. And the 'little shed on wheels' (how very dare you Sir!!)
are my favourite classic diesel, by far. They could (25's) be trouble, were complicated and maintenance intensive, but I have had these little things punch so much above their weight, I had to see it to believe it. I miss them dearly.
And BTW,,,,,I have had 2 Trabants and would have another.
I alos had Isetta's, Heinkel's, and Messerschmitts.
(In fact I remember going to a car show near Oxford in one of my 'schmitts in 1981 ish, with my original Sony WM1 walkman on, listening to OMD's Messerschmitt Twins as I drove down the M6).
Great video not really into trains but loved it.
Glad you're a diesel enthusiast, East Lancashire is an amazing railway, Class 43 and 50's my favourites, I remember seeing the prototype Deltic on the Scotch Express doing 90 mph through Finsbury Park Station London, in the late fifties, Awesome,Flag and Thrash can't beat it.....
Hi Simon, yes diesel was very much my era. Only ever saw two working Deltics 4 and 11. Seen a few in preservation. Still love it now 👍
Gonna be honest...trains aren't my thing, but i liked it and shared it anyway :)
Awww Thank you My friend. I did put a Scotrail Locomotive in just for you. 😍
As a kid we used to hide in the big iron bridge on Dean Lane moston waiting for the steam engines to come into Dean lane station to turn round on a massive turntable brilliant to watch
Amazing !!! I know the bridge you mean Gazz 👍
Class fifty, my favourite...cheers.,
Love The English Electrics
Isn't the class 56 similar to the 47, what is the difference, like the weight, because 47s and 56s are almost extinct, and I remember the 56s usually operating freight and not passenger trains? Also the class 50s are of a similar appearance. Class 56s you say are Romanian built, but couldn't have been driven all the way to Britain because the Channel Tunnel was not built and would have to have gone on ships.
The class 56 was an urgently needed Locomotive. For speed they based the design on the class 47. The first 30 or so built in Romania to get the class started, as I say it was all a rush job. they were brought from Romania by ship. 👍
As Martin sez. The 56 was only similar to a 47 in as much as the structure was a development of the 47- light frame above underframe level, and stressed skin outer panels to add strength and reduce weight. This was done as a construction expedient,, also it had been a successful technique. They were a pure freight loco, and only ever appeared on passenger on special railtours. they were delivered by sea. And the first 30 were indeed dire and troublesome.
The home grown ones wre somewhat better, but had their moments, too, be assured!
Something about the ones with the big long bonnets 6:20
Definitely 👍😀
We’re rumania?any we’re near Romania by any chance?
adam white sorry I hope I did not offend
Grew up at the side of woodhead line and used to
Go to doncaster to see the deltics saw a lot of fifties when they were being refirbed at donny works used to travel to manchester and crew to see the ac electric locos
56's used to pass my house along with endless class 76's happy times there was a rolling chassies
Of a 56 near the gates at donny works in the 70's
Kept us guessing what it was but it was the first brit built 56's if you hear a 56 on a fully loaded mgr train they made a hell of a racket lol
In 1981 I saw a load of 76's lined up at Reddish works waiting to be scrapped. Think they had just closed the line .
Martin Zero yes i went to redish to see them and guide bridge stableing point that was sad seeing them lined up like that
Really wonderful diesel locos and video.
Hi Norbert, thank you 👌😀
Have just put a couple of photo's on the Manchester Central posting on Manchester Pictorial and Film history - Hope you can find them
Hello again Irene. Yes Ive just checked. Saw the photos. they are brilliant. Great to have that memento of your fathers working life, what was the date approximately ?
I would think early 60's - he started there in the 50's - he started his working life as a carriage cleaner with the Cheshire Lines Committee aged fourteen - that would have been in 1918 and worked his was up . He was the signalman at Cheadle Cheshire station during the war and lived in the Station Master's House - which is now a pub. This was my first home I lived there for the first two years of my life and just after the war in 1945 we moved to Stretford - close to Trafford Park Station. He was a signalman at Trafford Park Junction - the across from the Man. United halt for football specials. Went in that box a lot times - taking him his dinner on a weekend. He then became a relief signalman and work from Manchester Central to Warrington ( I think it was Warrington) HIs final move in the mid fifties was full time at the Power Box at Central Station - went in there a number of times as well. Took train fanatics in to see it. - my husband included. ! HIs brother also worked on the railway and was in Cornbrook Sidings box for a lot of years. Watching a railway programme recently and seeing that the whole of the East Coast main line from Kings Cross to Newcastle is all controlled from York - I just find it amazing. Love seeing these old gems of Manchester - I left in 1964 to live in York and in 2006 took the plunge and retired to Burgundy in France.
Ahh so your in France now. That must be lovely. Thats a fantastic story, wish i was around to have visited that signal box and get some pictures. Those times are quite fascinating. Thank you Irene
Loving your videos Martin absolutely fascinating i have one or two videos you may like from the ELR and verious uther places around the country plus some archive stuff to.
Hello, thanks very much. Whats the archive stuff you have
Martin Zero mainly from the early 90s.
Great stuff, Thats when I lost touch with the railways then had a brief fling again in 2003/3
Martin Zero Cheers have you thought about doing a video of the locomotive manufacturers of Manchester like Metropolitan Vickers in Denton and of course Byer Pecocks or Gorton tank thers still bits of each of these works left today just an Idea.
@@nablicman Yes I would really like to do that
i enjoyed that film
Thanks very much Clive 👍
I used to do a lot of train photography around the North West until the price of railway tickets went through the roof and my local diesel depot closed down for good, so I enjoyed watching your Train video, great fun! Take care...
Many thanks John. Where was you Diesel depot ?
nice one
Thank you 😀👍
I live in ramsbottom and the east Lancashire is a pain in the arse causes bloody msyhem when they close the train crossing!
I'll wave from the train 😆👍
Love the 25
Me to, they have a tin can gutsy quality
love the 56 , such a shame about DCR
Hi Anthony, Love 56's myself 👍
im sure you seen it but if not check out class 56 screams through bronsgrove
Ok will do. Love thrash !
Class 50 first off production was 50 050 d400 Fearless
Yes it was Stu 👍😀
Martin 0401 but 50050 was last into service as it had to pull out all other 49 class 50's from the factory.
Is that fact ? Am sure they either left under their own power or the factory had a shunter, there were other locos around at the time ?
Martin 0401 50050 was used to move the locos from body shop to where the engines where installed
Dose this info make me more a train buff than u?
Watch this documentary especially the part about the Deltic.....
Manchester ' rail ' memories of the early 70's include a Class 17 (Clayton) that seemed to be on Longsight shed for ages. I'd never seen one 'till then ...and the trek out to Reddish depot, to see the legendary ' Tommies '. Man Vic was the place to go (defo not Piccadilly) as the train home to Farnworth ran from there, and you could get a brew on Platform 13 at the Café :-) Keep up ALL the good work, Martin! Everything you cover is massively interesting and greatly appreciated!
Thank you Dirk much appreciated