English Electric used to make the Lightning interceptor too. A truly great British company! I used to wait for the crossing gates to come down and clamber up the bridge over the tracks at Paignton station in Devon so I could look down into those cooling fans & get bathed in that warm waft from the diesel exhausts. That bridge is long gone now but it's replacement is still there.
Our first fridge bought in 1965 was English Electric. It was still trundling on until the 30 years later when it was working perfectly, but a bit rusty in places and then replaced.
Thank you for this excellent series on Manchester. I started my working life at English Electric Vulcan Works, Newton le Willows, in 1964. Deltics where what we were building, with that triangular engine, 3 crankshafts, 2 rotated one way and the third rotate in opposite direction. Steam perv myself, some lively machines in Carnforth and of course York Railway muesem. I left and joined HM Forces becoming an Aircraft Tech a job which I did until I retired many years later.
Hi Martin, myself and my wife Sal have been enjoying all of your videos lately. I would like to make one comment on this one. I see you love the class 40 diesels. I knew them as English Electric type 4's in the 60's. I can see now how you could love them, at the time of working on them I hated them. I worked them as second man while I was at Tyseley including D326 which was involved in the great train robbery. It was in my final years working at Bescot MPD that I really got a dislike for the EE type 4's. We used to work a parcel train starting at Dudley via Birmingham New Street. We had to shunt parcel vans from other trains to join our train which was bound for London Euston. While doing this it meant me leaning out of the window to observe the small round dummy signals in the tunnels where I would breathe in great amounts of diesel fumes and find myself coughing my guts up all night. It reminded me of that when you said you loved to see the two great plumes of smoke when they open up!!
Absolutely great video. When I was in my teens I used to go on the west coast line from Glasgow to Fort William. It was as far as Arrochar we went to fish in loch long. The trains were pulled by these diesels and they sounded amazing.
Brilliant video! I agree with you, there's certainly a romance for diesel hauled trains. To me you can't beat sitting by the window on a diesel hauled train, listening to the sounds of the loco and seeing it curve round the corner in front of you!
yeah, we have one at Nunthorpe on the Middlesbrough, Whitby line. Also a lot of old diesels had steam boilers to heat the carriages and these had a water tank onboard
Apparently, D326 was at Tyseley for a while and Carl (my husband & a fireman on the steamers in the 60's) 2nd -manned it a few times and it was rumoured that it was jinxed. It had several mishaps, one of which Carl witnessed at Washwood Heath sidings, where it ran away unmanned and went through the catch points hitting Bromford Bridge sustaining damage. If you went into the engine room at night the lights would pulsate with the tick over of the engine-and it was the only one that he ever saw act like that!!! For someone who refuses to believe in ghosts or watch "Most Haunted" with me, I think that's almost a confession of spookiness!!!
Great video ! These things do have soul - maybe it's because they self generate their own power. I was lucky enough to watch the Deltics in the 1960s from Wymondley Bridge near Stevenage.
Awesome combination 2:20 - Class 40 Diesel Loco (not BR Blue but good enough for me!) AND Dandelion and Burdock drink - just wish it was Ben Shaw's! Can't remember how many times we "borrowed" bottles from the lorries at the old Ben Shaw's factory between Huddersfield and Holmfirth when we were kids!
It's great to see and hear these beasts. I have a fond memory of a trip to Carlisle in the early70's of my dad asking the driver of D219 Caronia if we could look in the cab. He did one better and took us right through from one cab to the other.
That whistling sound of the Class 37 - it gave me goosebumps! It's a sound that I haven't heard since I was a small kid. There's a railway line about a quarter of a mile from my house, and the Primary school I went to was right next to the cutting that carried it - literally bang next to the top of the cutting, with only a 15 foot chainlink fence preventing us from playing with the trains. I was at that school from 1968-1974, by the way, and trains were made up of proper wagons, not just boring containers. Fish vans, Geest banana vans, Bogie bolsters, Lowmacs, early Conflats, occasionally. Huge trains with new military equipment, on what, at the time, would have been Warflats. Milk tanks, Blue Circle cement tanks, and, most sinister of all, the slow-moving train coming from Sizewell/Leiston, with it's cargo of spent nuclear fuel, secured in light grey 'Flasks', on their special well wagons. The 'whistlers' pulled a lot of these. Once heard, never forgotten. Took me right back.
I too went toa secondary school next to a railway. The line from Cornbrook to Fairfield Jn. I remember in 68, slow moving strings of steam locos being dragged off to Sheffield for scrapping, probably having been stored at Trafford Park and Cornbrook. Also the Woodhead electrics to and from Reddish, which ( unbeknown to me at the time of course) I was to later work on. Also seeing the Blue Pullman and Peak hauled Pancras trains too.
It was the class 43's when I was a boy screaming up and down the west coast mainline. I missed out on these beautiful machines running the mainline but I still love them too. Hearing that raw diesel thrash is awesome.
Opinions divided on '43's....I considered them units, some did not. But either way, that Paxman screaming howl was sharply attention grabbing whichever way you saw the. Shame on the MTU or whatever they have now, a dull farty chugging. Soulless. But running so many HST stes ubder the wires? Crazy, but govt. too tight to give BR any money for anything else. I was not trained on the HST, but still drove many trips to London and back on them,,,,glad I had the chance now- history, eh!
Martin these things definitely do have soul . I think you and I are roughly the same age (55 next) I went to I think it was Doncaster works when the class 40's were being retired what a great shame to see them all there . Like you I travelled on British Rail the length and breadth of the country following my passion train spotting. Quick story, meeting my mate Mark at stalybridge station one early Saturday morning I realised I had left my train fair for our trip to York at home, a guard just coming of duty kindly lent me my fair, you wouldn't get that anymore. Anyway great video great memories love work always fascinating to watch keep it up my any thanks
Worked on Class 40's and Class 20's the whistle is the sound of the compressor inside the turbocharger speeding up....great vid and nice to hear the English Electric thrash again.
It was quite a surprise coming off the Metro at Bury, which is two platforms, then walking round the corner to a much bigger station which is start of the heritage line. If you've commuted from Manchester, it still feels like you're in the city. It's so urban and easy to get to. I always get the 37 mixed up with the Baby Deltic. There's the cab of one ( Baby Deltic ) in a pub car park in Derby. A friend was working there a couple of years ago and sent me pics. I've just looked up Baby Deltic- they are class 23.
love trains my grandad was a train driver in Manchester in the early 1900,s , sadly I never met him he was long gone by the time I were born . i always wondered where i get my nerdiness for trains then my sisters told me about him . love your video,s
Ooh that brought back memories! Being a teenager in Carlisle with the distant whistles of class 40's idling in Kingmoor marshalling yard. Used to go and watch them whenever I could. More recently I remember the class 37s growling past the Gareloch on their way North from Glasgow. The sprinters in use now are so forgettable, so are the class 66's that do most of the freight runs.
Enjoyed that video Martin. Can't say I am z train enthusiast but it harks me bCk to the early 80s when I wS a student and spent my life travelling around on British Rail. Big memories of compartments trains with the narrow corridor. Oh those were the days hey ?
I don't know how I missed this one, but I liked it, I love the rail , but the diesel engines didn't have the same personality as the English trains. Just great to see them. Thanks again for the video.
Hello. Thank you, yeah I got a bit of a roasting for what I said about the semaphore signals, never realised they were still so much in use. Thanks glad you liked the video and thank you for subscribing 👍😃
Great vid as a usual Martin, I was also a spotter geek in my youth, o spent my weekends sneaking round tinsley, Toton, Healy mills etc with my old fella... and got caught a few times i still remember him shouting to me and my step brother to “ leg it !!” When we were seen sneaking round the sheds and sidings. My favourites were the 40s and peaks. Sad I know but still enjoy watching vids on TH-cam.
Cwoar.. The growl of those engines made me go weak at the knees.. When we were kids we used to mess about on the line that went south from Heald Green. There was always a myth about the "Navvy Train", we never believed it.. Then one evening we saw a train coming, there was no train due.. As it got closer we started to hear the massive diesel engine.. The front was painted with yellow and black chevrons.. We got a bit nervous so legged it up the embankment. As it reached where we were it screached to a halt and a gang of men piled out onto the track.. We legged it over the fields and hid. I guess the Navvy Train did exist. :/
Just catching up on the videos Martin, and have to come out as another spotter/basher. *Love* the sound of a 40 or a 37, and that 37 is also split-headcode. Lovely stuff!
Taah muchly, Martin. That's IDENTICAL to my 'yoof' at the same age, same location, same faves, same love (incl. esp. industrial archaeology). At the risk of repeating a previous post, I'll just comment of the "whistling" of Inghie 4s/Whistlers/40s: it was thanks to their turbochargers spooling up/down, spun round by the exhaust gases. You can distinguish TWO very different sounds as the driver revs up/backs down the power: the much higher-pitched sound TRAILS the main engine roar by a little moment, both during increase AND decrease of throttle application. Practically ALL larger diesel engines are turbocharged ...... it was the little shunters (incl. English Electric) that made do without.
Lmho...your reflection doing the close up....the....captions🙈😂. Quite interesting,lovely monsters aren't they,I spent many a time chokin in Manny Vic and the echo shook through ya 👌
Just watched your video,really enjoyed it,im a deltic man myself,ive enjoyed your other videos on manchester ,a great city especially the old buildings,well done👍♥️
Man, I have watched many of yer vids, even when your looking at bridges somehow there are tracks in it, knew we had something deep in common(!!!), me too obsessed with diesels, more obsessed with the Peaks(44/45/46) than the 40s - (Sulzer Engines) visiting me Gran for my birthday, a class 26 at idle in Perth station in 71 was the first thing I recorded on my cassette player. Cant find the tape mind, but can still hear it in me head. Your getting loads more subscribers, well done mate you deserve it, keep up the good work , blah,blah!!
Magnificent machines, it was good to see the class 37 inter-cooler groups. So much went into building these locos but it’s so sad when you see them being scrapped and cut up at places like Booths in Rotherham.
Hello, Yes I really wanted to go through the engine room but we couldn't. I love the technology that went into them. Those pics of all the Loco's stacked on top of one another are heartbreaking. Thanks 👍
Thanks again Martin enjoyed this video I worked at Mayfield parcels depot NCL PART OF BRITISH RAIL started at Watson St of deans gate where the tall hotel is now it was the ambulance service St he built in to the arches above.john Rooney
Wow lovely video.. I like trains my self and did overnight spotting at Doncaster station yes your right its diesel porn cant beat the old class 08. 20. 31. 37. 45. 47. 50 They once let me do a break test in York station on a H.S.T once They do diesel weekend on the North Yorkshire Moore's railway at times .... More train vids please 👌😆👍
Don't mind the 40s, nice locomotives, am more of a class 24/25 man myself especially if they were Double heading. Bin to ELR a couple of times especially diesel gala's, great railway, lovely scenery. Fantastic video as always Martin 👍👌
I grew up in Yorkshire and know about Black Puddings too and now live in London and still find them! Hi, Martin and thanks for a great video. I too was a trainspotter in my early years from about 7 when I got my first proper model train set and through the years the 1950s to late 60s used to travel all around Yorkshire trainspotting and making a nuisance of myself in loco sheds Leeds Bradford area. Obviously, I liked Steam but Diesels too and of particular interest were class 40s to 45s and the way they worked. By that, I mean the Buffer Beam was attached to the Bogie rather than the frame. So many happy memories and of course it was all ruined when I discovered GIRLS..! Mind you it was not all bad....when I was courting tried to be clever and cultured and say to a girlfriend..."Do you wanna see where the Bronte sisters grew up in Howorth?" It worked every time and got the Steam train from Keithley station along the Worth Vally Railway. I'm retired now and watched many videos and getting out to Ongar & Epping Railway. Anyway, enough of my rabbit and I have subscribed and treated myself to a Camcorder. There used to be much more Steam in the London area with weekly excursions from Marylebone and often from Kings Cross but only a few now ; ( Thanks Martin and hope to see more of your work...cheers mate Ian
Hi Ian Brilliant !! I must admit when I was 14 I was so snobby about steam trains but you live and learn and I can appreciate everything now. Must of been fascinating to have spotted in the 50's 60's and seen the transition from steam to diesel. I used to make a nuisance of myself around Longsight and Newton Heath in Manchester. Memories that are so good they make my heart ache with Nostalgia. Thanks for watching and subscribing I really appreciate it. Let me know if you pop up North, Bye for now 👍
Hi Martin. I have always liked the Deltics and know you can book to drive one but somehow I feel I'm too old and worn out to book then have to travel by bus and or train to get there all the way from Doncaster.
Blimey Martin! Just come across this vid. Been following your Manchester history vids and can’t believe you’re a train geek too! I was born and brought up in Fallowfield and the (now) Fallowfield loop line ran past the back off my house thus fuelling my love of trains. Hope to see more of these vids...brilliant stuff.
Hi Martin I've seen semaphore signals on the railway in Droitwich. You never used to be able to see them but they knocked a building down and they are quite prominent now. Also seen them on the railways up in yorkshire. Someone told me they used to drop down to tell the train drivers to go but if a cable or linkage etc broke they would drop and fail in the "go" position so they changed it to up for go so at least if it dropped due to failure it would fail in the "stop" position. I don't know for sure if it's true but it sounds plausible especially as the guys Dad used to work on the railways
Hi Martin....can't believe I've never seen this video before! We've talked about our love of 40's before and the sound of one idling and then setting off at 3:00 takes me straight back to my childhood. I grew up in Latchford and my grandparents house was about 200 yard from the signal box so the early hours were drenched in "that" sound! Do You think you will ever get to Latchford Viaduct and Latchford Locks? Amazing engineering feats!
Hi Martin. I used to get the train at Crumpsall to Bury every day when I was a beam setter at Peel Mill in Bury, that's when that was a proper station not preserved. Would have been about 1974. It was an electrified railway then.
I always felt that diesels were even more alive than steam because there were so many more moving parts interacting and under stress, making all sorts of noises whether they were idling or at full throttle. I used to stand beside them trying to pick out the different sounds and work out what was going on inside. and also record them on an old tape recorder and run alongside them as they pulled away :) When you watch the ammeter needle you know how much load is on the engine and electrical components, combine that with the sounds and it makes your hair stand on end? It's funny how people say that steam is more romantic, etc., and internal combustion engines are soulless, then on motoring programs, the presenter shouts about the engine sounding like music to his or her ears!? (Ironically, in virtually every 'motoring' programme, the loud 'background' music usually starts up so the viewers cant actually hear the engine! Quality?)
Gday Martin ,Kate and myself was there approx a year ago Like you i myself are a Diesel Nut Basically anything with a engine Loved the Pub there such a great job done by all at preservation society . Unfortunately we only went the opposite direction to where u were filming but was a great trip Will go back next time when this virus settles down Great Video footage as per usual Mate Kate and Mike Perth Western Australia
Great short vid Trains this time, good man. A 37 and a 40 together, good job they didn’t rev up at the same time.. you would of been wet lol Will deffo go and visit now I know about it Thanks
The water thingy is a water column. The whistling noise of the class 40's (and 20's) was the type of turbocharger used on that version of the CSVt engine and there are still quite a few semaphores dotted around the railway system otherwise keep up the good work you have a great presentation style much better than Gordon or the Whitewicks
English Electric made some fantastic products...... The Deltics and the Lightning omg if only we could still make things like that ...... after saying that , living next to the Westcoast Main line I do get to see the Tornado and Sir Nigel Gresley come past 😁
Semaphore signalling a thing of the past? Get a train from Knaresborough to York - plenty of semaphore signals along there. Break the journey at Poppleton and watch the signalman close the manual level crossing gates, adjust the semaphore signal manually and collect the token from the incoming train (single track).Honestly, it is like a scene from The Railway Children! Scarcely credible that this still happens in 2017. Only 10 minutes away is York station from where Virgin Trains' fast services take only an hour and three-quarters to get to Kings Cross
Hi Tim. Thats sounds great. That would be worth doing a video on its own. Yes the difference between the York Kings x is a world away. Anyway thanks for watching the video and your comment 👍😀
It's both great to see and rather depressing that it is still happening. About 7 years ago thieves stole from one of the small stations on the route the machine that records and dispenses the tokens for the single track. Until the original could be retrieved (BTP picked it up at an auction of rail memorabilia in Stoke) Network Rail had to borrow a replacement from the National Railway Museum in York! I am going to Biarritz on Saturday, by train, and will use this section first to get to York. From York, 1hr 44 to Kings Cross - then 2 hrs 20 to Paris by Eurostar, then 3hrs 20 to Biarritz by TGV. Rather a contrast there!
Tim Diggle Wow what a story. Imagine how many tokens got thrown on the scrap head in the past. Yes your journey on Saturday will be a progressively advancing through railway engineering. Enjoy Biarritz 🌞
Hello. Can I say you have my full admiration. Your obviously a woman with tastes of quality and distinction. The 37s are a fab loco. Love all the English Electric stuff. Thank you very much for subscribing to my channel. Most of it isn't about trains but I hope you enjoy the videos anyway. 👍
Yes been freight driver since she was 23 on CL 60 and 66 with Db and feightliner . Just moved to passenger mainly due to uncertainty's of rail freight in past few years . I have worked on railways for 32 years my dad and grandad were also drivers
English Electric used to make the Lightning interceptor too. A truly great British company!
I used to wait for the crossing gates to come down and clamber up the bridge over the tracks at Paignton station in Devon so I could look down into those cooling fans & get bathed in that warm waft from the diesel exhausts.
That bridge is long gone now but it's replacement is still there.
Our first fridge bought in 1965 was English Electric. It was still trundling on until the 30 years later when it was working perfectly, but a bit rusty in places and then replaced.
Thank you for this excellent series on Manchester.
I started my working life at English Electric Vulcan Works, Newton le Willows, in 1964.
Deltics where what we were building, with that triangular engine, 3 crankshafts, 2 rotated one way and the third rotate in opposite direction. Steam perv myself, some lively machines in Carnforth and of course York Railway muesem.
I left and joined HM Forces becoming an Aircraft Tech a job which I did until I retired many years later.
Hi Martin, myself and my wife Sal have been enjoying all of your videos lately. I would like to make one comment on this one. I see you love the class 40 diesels. I knew them as English Electric type 4's in the 60's. I can see now how you could love them, at the time of working on them I hated them. I worked them as second man while I was at Tyseley including D326 which was involved in the great train robbery. It was in my final years working at Bescot MPD that I really got a dislike for the EE type 4's. We used to work a parcel train starting at Dudley via Birmingham New Street. We had to shunt parcel vans from other trains to join our train which was bound for London Euston. While doing this it meant me leaning out of the window to observe the small round dummy signals in the tunnels where I would breathe in great amounts of diesel fumes and find myself coughing my guts up all night. It reminded me of that when you said you loved to see the two great plumes of smoke when they open up!!
Way to go. We love trains. Very interesting, I hate to see neat old disappear. Thank you, thank you
Absolutely great video. When I was in my teens I used to go on the west coast line from Glasgow to Fort William. It was as far as Arrochar we went to fish in loch long. The trains were pulled by these diesels and they sounded amazing.
Totally love this within seconds and can absolutely relate having been in awe of these beasts as a child in the early 1970s.
Loving the boyish excitement in your face when you're talking about them bless😏 ya diesel boff ya😁😎
Brilliant video! I agree with you, there's certainly a romance for diesel hauled trains. To me you can't beat sitting by the window on a diesel hauled train, listening to the sounds of the loco and seeing it curve round the corner in front of you!
I must admit the old diesels did get the job done definitely. Great video as always thanks Martin 👍
Yeah definitely
And merry christmas to yourself and the rest of the team.
Looking forward to 2023s videos.
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got a few semaphore s in the back garden . home and distant . the wifes grown to love them . all the very best from wigan
Thanks very much Tracey. Bet they are a gem in the garden
I worked as a volunteer at ELR some years ago - great fun - been hauled by many of these beasts.
Brilliant arent they Pam
Diesel locos are my favourite too, great stuff!
yeah, we have one at Nunthorpe on the Middlesbrough, Whitby line. Also a lot of old diesels had steam boilers to heat the carriages and these had a water tank onboard
Apparently, D326 was at Tyseley for a while and Carl (my husband & a fireman on the steamers in the 60's) 2nd -manned it a few times and it was rumoured that it was jinxed. It had several mishaps, one of which Carl witnessed at Washwood Heath sidings, where it ran away unmanned and went through the catch points hitting Bromford Bridge sustaining damage. If you went into the engine room at night the lights would pulsate with the tick over of the engine-and it was the only one that he ever saw act like that!!! For someone who refuses to believe in ghosts or watch "Most Haunted" with me, I think that's almost a confession of spookiness!!!
Great video ! These things do have soul - maybe it's because they self generate their own power. I was lucky enough to watch the Deltics in the 1960s from Wymondley Bridge near Stevenage.
Loved this video, Yh remember these trains and love them.
Brilliance once again Martin. Thank you. Martin
Awesome combination 2:20 - Class 40 Diesel Loco (not BR Blue but good enough for me!) AND Dandelion and Burdock drink - just wish it was Ben Shaw's! Can't remember how many times we "borrowed" bottles from the lorries at the old Ben Shaw's factory between Huddersfield and Holmfirth when we were kids!
It's great to see and hear these beasts. I have a fond memory of a trip to Carlisle in the early70's of my dad asking the driver of D219 Caronia if we could look in the cab. He did one better and took us right through from one cab to the other.
Thats awesome !!!
@@MartinZero It really was. It was on a southbound express in the brief period between steam and electrification.
That whistling sound of the Class 37 - it gave me goosebumps! It's a sound that I haven't heard since I was a small kid. There's a railway line about a quarter of a mile from my house, and the Primary school I went to was right next to the cutting that carried it - literally bang next to the top of the cutting, with only a 15 foot chainlink fence preventing us from playing with the trains. I was at that school from 1968-1974, by the way, and trains were made up of proper wagons, not just boring containers. Fish vans, Geest banana vans, Bogie bolsters, Lowmacs, early Conflats, occasionally. Huge trains with new military equipment, on what, at the time, would have been Warflats. Milk tanks, Blue Circle cement tanks, and, most sinister of all, the slow-moving train coming from Sizewell/Leiston, with it's cargo of spent nuclear fuel, secured in light grey 'Flasks', on their special well wagons. The 'whistlers' pulled a lot of these. Once heard, never forgotten. Took me right back.
Brilliant stuff. I was same went to school just near a railway line and saw everything on that line during the day 😃
I too went toa secondary school next to a railway. The line from Cornbrook to Fairfield Jn. I remember in 68, slow moving strings of steam locos being dragged off to Sheffield for scrapping, probably having been stored at Trafford Park and Cornbrook. Also the Woodhead electrics to and from Reddish, which ( unbeknown to me at the time of course) I was to later work on. Also seeing the Blue Pullman and Peak hauled Pancras trains too.
It was the class 43's when I was a boy screaming up and down the west coast mainline. I missed out on these beautiful machines running the mainline but I still love them too. Hearing that raw diesel thrash is awesome.
Opinions divided on '43's....I considered them units, some did not. But either way, that Paxman screaming howl was sharply attention grabbing whichever way you saw the. Shame on the MTU or whatever they have now, a dull farty chugging. Soulless. But running so many HST stes ubder the wires? Crazy, but govt. too tight to give BR any money for anything else. I was not trained on the HST, but still drove many trips to London and back on them,,,,glad I had the chance now- history, eh!
And a fantastic selection of unusual ales in the Bury station bar. Must get back there sometime.
Martin these things definitely do have soul .
I think you and I are roughly the same age (55 next) I went to I think it was Doncaster works when the class 40's were being retired what a great shame to see them all there .
Like you I travelled on British Rail the length and breadth of the country following my passion train spotting.
Quick story, meeting my mate Mark at stalybridge station one early Saturday morning I realised I had left my train fair for our trip to York at home, a guard just coming of duty kindly lent me my fair, you wouldn't get that anymore.
Anyway great video great memories love work always fascinating to watch keep it up my any thanks
Worked on Class 40's and Class 20's the whistle is the sound of the compressor inside the turbocharger speeding up....great vid and nice to hear the English Electric thrash again.
Thanks Steve, yeah love that whistling sound
Fantastic,,,, simply fantastic.
Thank you
It was quite a surprise coming off the Metro at Bury, which is two platforms, then walking round the corner to a much bigger station which is start of the heritage line. If you've commuted from Manchester, it still feels like you're in the city. It's so urban and easy to get to.
I always get the 37 mixed up with the Baby Deltic. There's the cab of one ( Baby Deltic ) in a pub car park in Derby. A friend was working there a couple of years ago and sent me pics. I've just looked up Baby Deltic- they are class 23.
Great Video again B and W Print look best for old trains..
love trains my grandad was a train driver in Manchester in the early 1900,s , sadly I never met him he was long gone by the time I were born . i always wondered where i get my nerdiness for trains then my sisters told me about him . love your video,s
Thanks very much, we share a love of the locomotives
I love Diesels (Locomotives, tractor units-Rolls Royce Eagle etc.)
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Loved this martin.
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Thank you Martin. I shall definitely go here when in Manchester, more than welcome to be our guide!
Ooh that brought back memories! Being a teenager in Carlisle with the distant whistles of class 40's idling in Kingmoor marshalling yard. Used to go and watch them whenever I could. More recently I remember the class 37s growling past the Gareloch on their way North from Glasgow. The sprinters in use now are so forgettable, so are the class 66's that do most of the freight runs.
Hi Phil oh yes that sound of distant class 40’s I quite like 66’s 😃
Still got semaphore signals at Yeovil Pen Mill in 2020. Controlling the trains to Bristol!
There are still a few water columns on stations, Battersby on the Whitby line, and Birmingham Moor Street for example.
I smiled the entire time. Thank you.
Thanks Barbara, I was in my element there
Oh man those engines purred !
Enjoyed that video Martin. Can't say I am z train enthusiast but it harks me bCk to the early 80s when I wS a student and spent my life travelling around on British Rail. Big memories of compartments trains with the narrow corridor. Oh those were the days hey ?
I don't know how I missed this one, but I liked it, I love the rail , but the diesel engines didn't have the same personality as the English trains. Just great to see them. Thanks again for the video.
Class 37’s 👍🏼 remember watching them
At Arpley sidings as a kid not seen one for a good 10+ years
Get yourself down to the Great Central Railway at Loughborough, just walking in to the station is like going back in time and they have Diesel Galas
Sounds good Craig
British Rail history right there!
The 40s are my favourite, followed by the 37s and 20s, wow!! Take care...
Cant beat that English Electric Magic Thrash !!! 👌
Lovely video, but just to say, semophore signals are still in active service on the Cumbrian coastal line, which is still an active line
Hello. Thank you, yeah I got a bit of a roasting for what I said about the semaphore signals, never realised they were still so much in use. Thanks glad you liked the video and thank you for subscribing 👍😃
Martin Zero thank you for replying, also, your video has prompted me to go to the Ribble diesel gala in April, thank you very much.
Hello, Have a great time, If I can get there I might go myself
Martin Zero if you do I may see you there, keep up the good work.
I’m sure it is just the approach to Shrewsbury and Cumbrian branch itself hasn’t got any real signals just signs
Great vid. LOVE those early diesel locos. Got a chance to actually drive 40135 on the Severn Valley Railway last year. Totally wet my pants!!
Wow thats definitely on my to do list. Drive a 40
Great vid as a usual Martin, I was also a spotter geek in my youth, o spent my weekends sneaking round tinsley, Toton, Healy mills etc with my old fella... and got caught a few times i still remember him shouting to me and my step brother to “ leg it !!” When we were seen sneaking round the sheds and sidings.
My favourites were the 40s and peaks. Sad I know but still enjoy watching vids on TH-cam.
Great stuff Martin you should do this more often. Get up there with Smile video and Admirals corner. Many thanks.
Cwoar.. The growl of those engines made me go weak at the knees..
When we were kids we used to mess about on the line that went south from Heald Green. There was always a myth about the "Navvy Train", we never believed it.. Then one evening we saw a train coming, there was no train due.. As it got closer we started to hear the massive diesel engine.. The front was painted with yellow and black chevrons.. We got a bit nervous so legged it up the embankment. As it reached where we were it screached to a halt and a gang of men piled out onto the track.. We legged it over the fields and hid.
I guess the Navvy Train did exist.
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Ha great stuff
1 min to the video, and I hit that thumbs up button - excellent video thanks
Thank you very much
Just catching up on the videos Martin, and have to come out as another spotter/basher. *Love* the sound of a 40 or a 37, and that 37 is also split-headcode. Lovely stuff!
Beautiful arent they !!!
Taah muchly, Martin. That's IDENTICAL to my 'yoof' at the same age, same location, same faves, same love (incl. esp. industrial archaeology).
At the risk of repeating a previous post, I'll just comment of the "whistling" of Inghie 4s/Whistlers/40s: it was thanks to their turbochargers spooling up/down, spun round by the exhaust gases.
You can distinguish TWO very different sounds as the driver revs up/backs down the power: the much higher-pitched sound TRAILS the main engine roar by a little moment, both during increase AND decrease of throttle application. Practically ALL larger diesel engines are turbocharged ...... it was the little shunters (incl. English Electric) that made do without.
Lmho...your reflection doing the close up....the....captions🙈😂. Quite interesting,lovely monsters aren't they,I spent many a time chokin in Manny Vic and the echo shook through ya 👌
Just watched your video,really enjoyed it,im a deltic man myself,ive enjoyed your other videos on manchester ,a great city especially the old buildings,well done👍♥️
Man, I have watched many of yer vids, even when your looking at bridges somehow there are tracks in it, knew we had something deep in common(!!!), me too obsessed with diesels, more obsessed with the Peaks(44/45/46) than the 40s - (Sulzer Engines) visiting me Gran for my birthday, a class 26 at idle in Perth station in 71 was the first thing I recorded on my cassette player. Cant find the tape mind, but can still hear it in me head. Your getting loads more subscribers, well done mate you deserve it, keep up the good work , blah,blah!!
Magnificent machines, it was good to see the class 37 inter-cooler groups. So much went into building these locos but it’s so sad when you see them being scrapped and cut up at places like Booths in Rotherham.
Hello, Yes I really wanted to go through the engine room but we couldn't. I love the technology that went into them. Those pics of all the Loco's stacked on top of one another are heartbreaking. Thanks 👍
Thanks again Martin enjoyed this video I worked at Mayfield parcels depot NCL PART OF BRITISH RAIL started at Watson St of deans gate where the tall hotel is now it was the ambulance service St he built in to the arches above.john Rooney
Thanks for the novice chat on the platform, most preserved railway vids assume arcane knowledge that casuals like me don't possess.
Absolutely wonderful diesel locos. Great video. Greetings from Germany.
Hello Norbert, greetings to Germany. Thank you for watching my videos and subscribing 👍
My step dad drove diesel trains based at Oxford rd station began as fireman footplate. Is retired know in his 90s. John
Wow lovely video.. I like trains my self and did overnight spotting at Doncaster station yes your right its diesel porn cant beat the old class 08. 20. 31. 37. 45. 47. 50
They once let me do a break test in York station on a H.S.T once
They do diesel weekend on the North Yorkshire Moore's railway at times .... More train vids please 👌😆👍
Hi Andy thanks. Yep love the diesels. Can’t beat a 25 rasping away 😃
Class 40's!! Love 'em!!
Don't mind the 40s, nice locomotives, am more of a class 24/25 man myself especially if they were Double heading. Bin to ELR a couple of times especially diesel gala's, great railway, lovely scenery.
Fantastic video as always Martin 👍👌
I grew up in Yorkshire and know about Black Puddings too and now live in London and still find them!
Hi, Martin and thanks for a great video. I too was a trainspotter in my early years from about 7 when I got my first proper model train set and through the years the 1950s to late 60s used to travel all around Yorkshire trainspotting and making a nuisance of myself in loco sheds Leeds Bradford area. Obviously, I liked Steam but Diesels too and of particular interest were class 40s to 45s and the way they worked. By that, I mean the Buffer Beam was attached to the Bogie rather than the frame. So many happy memories and of course it was all ruined when I discovered GIRLS..! Mind you it was not all bad....when I was courting tried to be clever and cultured and say to a girlfriend..."Do you wanna see where the Bronte sisters grew up in Howorth?" It worked every time and got the Steam train from Keithley station along the Worth Vally Railway. I'm retired now and watched many videos and getting out to Ongar & Epping Railway. Anyway, enough of my rabbit and I have subscribed and treated myself to a Camcorder.
There used to be much more Steam in the London area with weekly excursions from Marylebone and often from Kings Cross but only a few now ; ( Thanks Martin and hope to see more of your work...cheers mate Ian
Hi Ian Brilliant !! I must admit when I was 14 I was so snobby about steam trains but you live and learn and I can appreciate everything now. Must of been fascinating to have spotted in the 50's 60's and seen the transition from steam to diesel. I used to make a nuisance of myself around Longsight and Newton Heath in Manchester. Memories that are so good they make my heart ache with Nostalgia. Thanks for watching and subscribing I really appreciate it. Let me know if you pop up North, Bye for now 👍
Martin Zero come over to Ireland and you will taste the best black pudding ever. Clonakillty Is the brand name, made in clonakilty County Cork
Great vid Martin
Been there loads of times...inc Santa express good times...
Yeah great place
In some places we still use semaphore signals, a lot of the Aberdeen to Inverness mainline uses them.
Love them
Hi Martin. I have always liked the Deltics and know you can book to drive one but somehow I feel I'm too old and worn out to book then have to travel by bus and or train to get there all the way from Doncaster.
Spent many a happy hour on the ELR. Can't wait for the extension to Castleton.
Blimey Martin! Just come across this vid. Been following your Manchester history vids and can’t believe you’re a train geek too!
I was born and brought up in Fallowfield and the (now) Fallowfield loop line ran past the back off my house thus fuelling my love of trains.
Hope to see more of these vids...brilliant stuff.
Ha Thanks Brian, Yeah I have a good Diesel Locomotive pedigree
Hi Brian, what would you see on the Fallowfield Line?
“Got to tell you...I’m a bit of a geek”😂😂brilliant Martin..been here myself with my little lad ,a great day out .Great video again.
It is a great place Carl. many thanks
Could never tell a 40 from a 37 until I looked at the wheels!
I'm with you on the passion for the diesels. Steams good but man I love the diesels. I love the 37s and of couse 55s.
Hi Graham, yeah they were my era. I was lucky enough to be around in the early 80's so saw most of them, yep love a Deltic 👍
I used to go to school in retford and often saw the 37s pulling coal in to West Burton. And our school was right near the east coast main line.
Lucky you, I was on the Rochdale line so it was 25,37,40, 47. My mate told me about Deltics it was years before I saw one
Sad thinking it was the norm and didn't think about photos back then and they were expensive to do. I'd love to drive a 37 or any classic diesel .
I keep thinking of going to do the driver experience at the East Lancs Railway
Hi Martin I've seen semaphore signals on the railway in Droitwich. You never used to be able to see them but they knocked a building down and they are quite prominent now. Also seen them on the railways up in yorkshire. Someone told me they used to drop down to tell the train drivers to go but if a cable or linkage etc broke they would drop and fail in the "go" position so they changed it to up for go so at least if it dropped due to failure it would fail in the "stop" position. I don't know for sure if it's true but it sounds plausible especially as the guys Dad used to work on the railways
Definitely sounds plausible that Roger. Didn’t the southern region go down for go ?
Class 37, 40 and the mighty Hoovers, The Class 50 are pure EE porn.
Hi Martin....can't believe I've never seen this video before! We've talked about our love of 40's before and the sound of one idling and then setting off at 3:00 takes me straight back to my childhood. I grew up in Latchford and my grandparents house was about 200 yard from the signal box so the early hours were drenched in "that" sound! Do You think you will ever get to Latchford Viaduct and Latchford Locks? Amazing engineering feats!
Used to wag Burnage high school to go sit at Mauldeth Road and wait for the class 50 freight pullers.
Fab !!! 😆
Hi Martin. I used to get the train at Crumpsall to Bury every day when I was a beam setter at Peel Mill in Bury, that's when that was a proper station not preserved. Would have been about 1974. It was an electrified railway then.
Hi Alan, was it Bolton street you mean. I do remember the third rail 1500 volt electrified multiple units that ran along that route before the Trams 👍
Yeah, Bolton St. And it was Woodlands Rd we used to go from not Crumpsall.
An old video now Martin but still massively entertaining! Keep up the good work my friend :-) stay safe
hi. great video. hope you like the 08 shunters as they are quite cute and a simple loco
I always felt that diesels were even more alive than steam because there were so many more moving parts interacting and under stress, making all sorts of noises whether they were idling or at full throttle. I used to stand beside them trying to pick out the different sounds and work out what was going on inside. and also record them on an old tape recorder and run alongside them as they pulled away :) When you watch the ammeter needle you know how much load is on the engine and electrical components, combine that with the sounds and it makes your hair stand on end?
It's funny how people say that steam is more romantic, etc., and internal combustion engines are soulless, then on motoring programs, the presenter shouts about the engine sounding like music to his or her ears!? (Ironically, in virtually every 'motoring' programme, the loud 'background' music usually starts up so the viewers cant actually hear the engine! Quality?)
Thats true, if it was a car.....
Gday Martin ,Kate and myself was there approx a year ago Like you i myself are a Diesel Nut Basically anything with a engine Loved the Pub there such a great job done by all at preservation society . Unfortunately we only went the opposite direction to where u were filming but was a great trip Will go back next time when this virus settles down Great Video footage as per usual Mate
Kate and Mike Perth Western Australia
Thanks very much Kate and Mike, yes its a fab place not been for a while
D 326 ( 40126 ) was the loco in the great train robbery
Indeed it was. Used to see it all the time in the early 80's
Great short vid
Trains this time, good man.
A 37 and a 40 together, good job they didn’t rev up at the same time.. you would of been wet lol
Will deffo go and visit now I know about it
Thanks
Its a great day Phil 👍
Hey Martin, great video! I remember that railway station, I went there as a kid for one of the Thomas the tank engine days. It was phenomenal. 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
Cheers Pal. Thomas still makes an appearance 😆
The water thingy is a water column. The whistling noise of the class 40's (and 20's) was the type of turbocharger used on that version of the CSVt engine and there are still quite a few semaphores dotted around the railway system otherwise keep up the good work you have a great presentation style much better than Gordon or the Whitewicks
English Electric made some fantastic products...... The Deltics and the Lightning omg if only we could still make things like that ...... after saying that , living next to the Westcoast Main line I do get to see the Tornado and Sir Nigel Gresley come past 😁
Fab 👍 yeah amazing machines
Vulcan works near me remember my uncle took me before they demolished it, it’s a housing estate and an Aldi 🙄
Great video Martin but no Deltic my favourite dese I I used to love watching them power through York station.
Cant beat a Deltic. The first one I ever saw was Number 11, Royal Northumberland Fusileer
Great suff martin..
Cheers
NICE!!!!!
It's the 4 Napier turbos that whistle mate.
And it sounds damm fine
I drove the Great Train Robbery engine on several occasions. D226, I think. Was always a weird feeling being on it.
Wow, Wasn't it renumbered to 40 126 ?
Yes, but it's pre 1970s number was, I think, D226.
Best video yet!
The whistle you hear is most likely a turbocharger, a turbo uses the power of exhaust gasses to feed more air into the engine, more power can be made,
Indeed it is Dave
love diesel day at elr - hope to see you there sometime :) #cfps
btw - my mate works at elr now - he used to work on Keighley -worth in yorks ;)
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Nice video! 😀👍
Thank you very much. Glad you enjoyed 👍😃
👍👍 as usual fantastic video amd thats good for me to know about trains u know bcz we Dont have it here so thank you 👍👌🙏
Thanks Mohammed. No Trains ????
Martin 0401 yes we dont have trains in Palestine 😅
Semaphore signalling a thing of the past? Get a train from Knaresborough to York - plenty of semaphore signals along there. Break the journey at Poppleton and watch the signalman close the manual level crossing gates, adjust the semaphore signal manually and collect the token from the incoming train (single track).Honestly, it is like a scene from The Railway Children! Scarcely credible that this still happens in 2017.
Only 10 minutes away is York station from where Virgin Trains' fast services take only an hour and three-quarters to get to Kings Cross
Hi Tim. Thats sounds great. That would be worth doing a video on its own. Yes the difference between the York Kings x is a world away. Anyway thanks for watching the video and your comment 👍😀
It's both great to see and rather depressing that it is still happening.
About 7 years ago thieves stole from one of the small stations on the route the machine that records and dispenses the tokens for the single track. Until the original could be retrieved (BTP picked it up at an auction of rail memorabilia in Stoke) Network Rail had to borrow a replacement from the National Railway Museum in York!
I am going to Biarritz on Saturday, by train, and will use this section first to get to York. From York, 1hr 44 to Kings Cross - then 2 hrs 20 to Paris by Eurostar, then 3hrs 20 to Biarritz by TGV. Rather a contrast there!
Tim Diggle Wow what a story. Imagine how many tokens got thrown on the scrap head in the past. Yes your journey on Saturday will be a progressively advancing through railway engineering. Enjoy Biarritz 🌞
Diesels all the way 4me😍
Hi, I am a major class 37 fan. Adore them! Yes, I am a proud female train spotter. Diesels are romantic to me too.
Hello. Can I say you have my full admiration. Your obviously a woman with tastes of quality and distinction. The 37s are a fab loco. Love all the English Electric stuff. Thank you very much for subscribing to my channel. Most of it isn't about trains but I hope you enjoy the videos anyway. 👍
Not the most comfortable cabs ' good loco though .Cant beat nice class 60 though youngest daughter likes them finds them nice drive and very capable
andy mathieson Hi Andy. Love all the old diesels. Is your Daughter a train driver then ? Brilliant 👍
Yes been freight driver since she was 23 on CL 60 and 66 with Db and feightliner . Just moved to passenger mainly due to uncertainty's of rail freight in past few years . I have worked on railways for 32 years my dad and grandad were also drivers
Definately in the Family then. I once had a go in a 37 and loved it, I keep meaning to do a driver experience