Joseph Prince blasphemes God by accusing Him of giving the law to kill & condemn us

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    Joseph Prince blasphemes God by accusing Him of giving us the law to kill & condemn us - By Rev George Ong
    Note there is one video each on Derek Prince & George Ong & 2 videos on Joseph Prince & one short write-up each by John Stott & Martyn Lloyd-Jones.
    Excerpt No 1 from the Article:
    In conclusion, if 3 giants of expository preaching in the Christian Faith, namely, Derek Prince, Martyn Lloyd-Jones and John Stott, have all demolished JP’s blasphemous teaching that the law, not sin, is responsible for killing and condemning us, those who stubbornly choose to go along with Joseph Prince’s teachings are shooting themselves in the foot.
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  • @tanky815
    @tanky815 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    20 years ago JP would someitmes end his sermons with " I preach myself happy".
    Look like he is still the same. Ownself say ownself shiok.

  • @vijayrem-mn6id
    @vijayrem-mn6id 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    9 of the Ten Commandments are repeated in the NT. Only the Sabbath law is not repeated as Christians are never taught to keep the Sabbath.
    "His DELIGHT is in the law of the Lord and in His law he meditates day and night" (Ps 1)
    The law contains principles of righteous conduct and ethical living, principles of permanent relevance. Its always wrong to murder or to take the name of God in vain. The law provides training in righteousness for people of God ( 2 Tim 3)
    "Honor your father and mother" is the first commandment that has a promise attached to it, namely, "so you will live well and have a long life." (Eps 6)
    False preachers do not delight in the law. They hate the law because they know it condemns their practices: they are taking the name of God in vain by wilfully preaching half-truths and heresies. This hatred is expressly shown, as in JP's case, in their denigration of the law, maligning it as a killer from God.

  • @lindakoo5221
    @lindakoo5221 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    How can JP be allowed to continue with his deception, by preaching again and again heresies, distorted views and half truths of the word of God???

    • @JT-wu1gt
      @JT-wu1gt 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      When the flock does not study the Bible, they can't differentiate between truth and error.

    • @lindsaylim5806
      @lindsaylim5806 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      NCCS finds this acceptable? 😢😢😢
      Sheep sent to the slaughter worldwide and NCCS still keeping quiet

  • @davidwong6048
    @davidwong6048 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Wow.!..very clear teaching to show it is SIN that Kills and CONDEMNS

  • @davidching7803
    @davidching7803 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    JP has gravely misinterpreted the Bible.

    • @kengoppingoppin
      @kengoppingoppin 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Hard to believe that a preacher who always gives the impression he is anoited and Christ-centred can be so wrong on such a important subject

  • @siewfuayding114
    @siewfuayding114 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    False preacher

  • @achakvenn
    @achakvenn 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Why did JP preached a message " Tithing Under Grace" if he says the law kills? Tithing is clearly a Mosaic law. Did he see enormous financial bonanza in preaching this law?

    • @lindsaylim5806
      @lindsaylim5806 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Shows his double mindedness and hypocrisy

    • @lindsaylim5806
      @lindsaylim5806 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Also shows that his mind is set on $$$$ instead of truly preaching and teaching on the Son of God, Jesus Christ, as revealed in the Bible.
      He's indeed very dangerous!

  • @desmondteng3025
    @desmondteng3025 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I wonder how many of his NCC members have watched this and still belueve him?

    • @edmundsim6251
      @edmundsim6251 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      They also believe that Leah is a slave woman too and that Rachel is more blessed than Leah in the eyes of the Lord. It is a different version of the bible already.

  • @wizzhowenwizz
    @wizzhowenwizz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    At the Jerusalem Council the Apostles came to the decision that Gentiles need not be cicumcised (law). But they did not stipulate that Gentiles should cast away the 10 Commandments. This was a watershed event at which they could have intimated that Gentiles need not follow the 10 Commandments. Why didn't they take this opportunity if the law, as JP teaches, really kills? Surely the Apostles, in sharp contrast to JP, must have viewed the 10 Commandments with profound respect.

  • @Matrixqc777
    @Matrixqc777 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    *Revealed 115 years ago (1909) 👉 "As God is eternal, His Truth remains the same. Whatever that is out of harmony with His revealed TRUTH, with His CLEAR REVELATION the same is a LIE, are false and misleading."*

    • @Matrixqc777
      @Matrixqc777 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      *SIN IS A SPIRITUAL DISEASE; AND IS "AN AWFUL AND DIFFICULT PROBLEM". Because SIN exist, MORAL EVIL exist. Even angels were affected by Sin. Sin had caused a third of God's mighty angels to fall from Heaven (οὐρανός - ouranos - the eternal abode of God, Rev.12:4-9) into our present physical Universe. Our Universe is under a SPIRITUAL QUARANTINE!*
      *Revealed 115 years ago (1909) - Page 118 - Moral Evil. "How Sin can exist in the world (Cosmos) with all its terrible consequences in connection with God's RIGHTEOUS GOVERNMENT, is an AWFUL AND DIFFICULT PROBLEM, the COMPLETE SOLUTION of which is NOT POSSIBLE TO MAN IN HIS EARTHLY LIFE {meaning, the presence of Sin in our Universe}. But Sin DOES EXIST, and God permits it for reasons of His own, not fully revealed to men. In Heaven it could not be so. No taint of Sin can ever enter the gates of this City. If an angel should again sin God would instantly cast him down to Hell."*
      *After Adam, 'there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and is not (affected by) Sin' (Eccl. **7:20**).*
      *"The Atonement" has a DUAL purpose - "The death of Christ was 1. VICARIOUS (substitutionary) and 2. PROPITIATORY (reconciliatory) and that by it, DIVINE JUSTICE is satisfied; and God can be just and the Justifier (Romans 3:26) of all who believe in Christ Jesus, and that PARDON AND SALVATION (Col.**1:13**-14; Hebrews 9:22) is freely offered to all men, upon (true) 1. REPENTANCE AND (true unfeigned) 2. FAITH" (Mark 1:15).*
      *Similarly, for "DIVINE JUSTICE" to be "satisfied", a believing sinner must meet the dual requirement of "repentance and faith" (Mark 1:15).*
      *1. True repentance appropriate Christ's Substitutionary Sacrifice for the believing sinner - God the Son*
      *2. True unfeigned faith appropriate Christ's Reconciliatory Sacrifice for the believing sinner - God the Holy Spirit*
      *The Substitutionary Sacrifice of the Son on the Calvary Cross ATONED for the sins of the "believing sinner" ('if anyone does sin, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous, He is the propitiation for our sins' - 1 John 2:12) and, His Reconciliatory Sacrifice enables the Holy Spirit to reconcile the believer to God the Father (through the process of regeneration and sanctification of the believer throughout the believer's lifetime of "working out" his/her "salvation" based on "repentance and faith", with, "fear and trembling" Phil.**2:12**-13).*
      *Hebrews 12:1 - 'We must TPT: let go of every wound that has pierced us and the sin we so easily fall into; TLV: get rid of every weight and entangling sin; Williams: throw off every impediment and the sin that easily entangles our feet; and let us run with endurance the race set before us.'*

  • @WordsofGodThe
    @WordsofGodThe 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    The Bible never says that *LAW* kills or law is the root problem which condemns. On the contrary, it says that *SIN* kills, sin condemns, and sin is the 'sting of death' or root problem of death: 1Co 15:55-57 KJV O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? (56) The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law. (57) But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. So, once the problem of sin is taken care of or settled, law is life because it is the law of God or the law of the Spirit of life that leads to life:
    Rom 7:22-25 KJV For I delight in the *LAW* of God after the inward man: (23) But I see ANOTHER LAW in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of *SIN* which is in my members. (24) O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? (25) I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the *LAW* of God; but with the flesh the law of *SIN* .. (8:2-8) For the *LAW* of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of *SIN* and death. (3) For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned *SIN* in the flesh: (4) That the righteousness of the *LAW* might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. (5) For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. (6) For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. (7) Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the *LAW* of God, neither indeed can be. (8) So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
    Do you notice that there are two laws: the law of God and the law of sin? When we are under sin or lawlessness, we are under the law of sin. However, when we are set free from the law of sin by Jesus Christ, we are under the law of God. Yes, we are not supposed to be 'under the law'; however, whenever Paul talked about that, he was referring to the old covenant or the old law before we are set free from the law of sin. Once we are set free from the law of sin, we should live under the law of the Spirit of life which is from God (which is the law of God and subject to the law of God). If we have been truly set free from the law of sin, we would not only delight but also love the law of God. Otherwise, we would still believe and preach like Joseph Prince who condemns all the law of God because he is still living under the condemnation of sin (or under the law of sin), and therefore, subconsciously or unknowingly, he would hate all kinds of law that restrict his freedom and his carnal flesh under the law of sin and death

    • @WordsofGodThe
      @WordsofGodThe 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Joseph Prince makes *TWO VERY SERIOUS* blunders that he needs to explain to all the churches; or else there will be serious problems of sins or lawlessness in our generation or next generation:
      1. he says the law kills th-cam.com/video/a5DV8DkV_g4/w-d-xo.html
      2. he also says the Ten Commandments are the ministry of death th-cam.com/video/a5DV8DkV_g4/w-d-xo.html
      2Co 3:6-9 KJV Who also hath made us able ministers of the *NEW TESTAMENT;* not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life. (7) But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away: (8) How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious? (9) For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.
      Please think again, Having known the root problem of sin as able ministers of the *NEW TESTAMENT,* do we still think that the Ten Commandments are the ministry of death? No, like what Paul said, once we have been set free from the law of sin, we should now see all the law of God including the Ten Commandments as the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus. And that is the 'Spirit of the New Testament' to obey God and subject to the law of God too:
      Rom 8:2-8 KJV For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death .. ..(4) That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit .. .. (7) Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. (8) So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
      Do you know how serious it is if you do not know the root cause of your sickness? You can never be healed or find the treatment for your sickness. Similarly, if you do not know the root cause of your problem (which is sin), you can never be set free. You will forever live in hypnosis or hallucination of a false righteousness, false Christ, or false salvation, and you will become an easy prey to the 'lawless' servants of the iniquity:
      Mat 24:11-12 KJV And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. (12) And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

    • @WordsofGodThe
      @WordsofGodThe 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Joseph Prince says "THE TEN COMMANDMENTS KILL" ! th-cam.com/video/a5DV8DkV_g4/w-d-xo.html However, did the Bible say that? No, when the Bible says that the letter kills but the Spirit gives life in 2 Cor 3:6, it simply means that the Ten Commandments have now become the Spirit or Law of God that dwells in us and leads us to life. Yes, God's Commandments are *NO LONGER WRITTEN AS LETTERS* on the tablets of stones now; however, will God replace the content and essence of His Commandments (the Ten Commandments)? No. If Joseph Prince would disagree and say that the Ten Commandments have all been replaced by just love or the 'commandment to love' only, obviously his 'commandment to love' is not a God's commandment; but a false commandment that has *NO OBEDIENCE TO GOD* ! When a preacher or false prophet believes or 'observes' a false commandment that has no obedience to God, he will never obey God; but only himself, and he will create many more false commandments that benefit himself only, for example: a hypocritical set of laws that is subject to his own carnal desires like the 'law of prosperity', the 'law of the transfer of wealth', the 'law of sowing and reaping to get more riches', the 'law of not touching the anointed ones', the 'law of righteousness by confession', the 'law of changing your mind positively to get more from God', the 'law of positive confession', the law of 'sonship' to 'inherit' more riches from this world, the law of a false discipleship carrying his false effortless cross, the law of meditation (on the law of God to enrich himself only), .. .. and etc.

    • @WordsofGodThe
      @WordsofGodThe 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Why do we need to speak out against Joseph Prince? It's because he makes *TWO VERY SERIOUS* blunders in his preaching of God's words or God's laws. First, he preaches against the law of God; next, he preaches against the Ten Commandments. Do you know how serious would that be in the eyes of God? It could be much more serious than committing an adultery or killing a man. When a servant or preacher of God preached against the law of God, do you know what it means? It means great betrayal to God and that he has turned himself into a servant of lawlessness or Satan. It means that he would also preach against God by raising an idol to replace God who gave us His Commandments. So, it is not surprising to know that Joseph Prince will sooner or later create an 'idol' of worship for you too; however, it would not be an 'idol ' with a clear identification to Satan or the devil. Instead, he would create an 'idol' of similar identification to God or Jesus Christ or an 'idol' that is similar to the golden calf that was worshipped by the Israelites:
      Exo 32:4-6 KJV And he received them at their hand, and fashioned it with a graving tool, after he had made it a molten calf: and they said, These be thy gods, O Israel, which brought thee up out of the land of Egypt. (5) And when Aaron saw it, he built an altar before it; and Aaron made proclamation, and said, To morrow is *A FEAST TO THE LORD.* (6) And they rose up early on the morrow, and offered burnt offerings, and brought peace offerings; and the people sat down to eat and to drink, and rose up to play.
      Do you know what is the similarity between the golden calf and the 'idol' of worship created by Joseph Prince? They are both 'celebrated' or 'worshipped' in the name of the Lord, but the worshippers would all think that the idols are closer and more loving than God Himself. So, you might ask, What is the 'idol' of worship created by Joseph Prince? I would think that anything that is created to be 'celebrated' or 'worshipped' in the name of the Lord to make the worshippers or believers think that it is better than God is an idol. In fact, Joseph Prince has created so many such 'idols' that I do not know which is the 'real idol' now. It could be 'Grace1' which is a 'tool' he used to preach against the law of God or 'Grace2' which is a 'Jesus' to replace all the doctrine of Christ. It could also be the 'Holy Communion' which he labelled as the 'Fountain of Youth or 'Great Medicine'. In fact, the 'Holy Communion' has been celebrated like *A FEAST TO THE LORD* too, like a feast before their 'golden calf' who can answer all their physical, financial, or medical needs. Of course, this is totally different from how Jesus would want us to take it to remember His death. It is definitely not a 'feast to celebrate' how we can have all our needs met. Now do you know how serious it is when a preacher of antinomianism, lawlessness, or 'golden calves' can affect you and your destiny? The Lord's warning in Mat 7:15-23 is already very clear against the teaching of false prophets who are against His doctrine. If you still insist that you 'need' to support, collaborate, and follow the teaching of these false prophets (like Joseph Prince) after you have been shown with almost 'everything' here, you should know that your following of Joseph Prince is not just because of your love for a man; but because of your own hardened hearts of unbelief on God's commandments too:
      Heb 3:12-13 KJV Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God. (13) But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.

    • @dust5717
      @dust5717 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ok so answer me a simple question. Is it possible for anyone to follow the law perfectly? And what happens if u dont? Why did Jesus say "Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill" ( Matthew 5:17)

    • @dust5717
      @dust5717 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Your entire essay is filled with nonsense. God makes things very clear, straight, and simple for us. The law was put in place to honor God but also so we may struggle with it all our lives acknowledging our futility in observing it to God's standards as it is impossible for we are sinners.

  • @edmundsim6251
    @edmundsim6251 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    This is one of the main reasons why I felt that JP has been preaching heresies by condemning the 10 commandments. This 10 commandments is not death like JP has said but rather, it is the great guiding principles to understand God. Which commandment, do you think that kills anyone? None! If you look at all the 10 commandments, it is a guide to lead a proper and just way with God and to walk with him.
    For example, even Jesus says, "Love the Lord your God and Love your Neighbours', these two are the two greatest commandments of God. Did Jesus come to condemn the 10 commandments? No! He comes to endose the original commandments!
    How is it possible for so many thousands of so called 'Christians' like 30k to believe in JP's nonsense and tongue twisting? Because they are just buds and have not come to harvest yet. And JP cut them at the buds at an early stage to prevent them from growing spiritually and into full harvest so God the Harvester cannot harvest them.

    • @salsadancertradermuaythai81
      @salsadancertradermuaythai81 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Jesus didn’t come to endorse the 10 commandments. He came to fulfill them

    • @luke-h5xl
      @luke-h5xl 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Rom12:8-10 written by Paul:Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one another, for whoever loves others has fulfilled the law. 9 The commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not covet,”[a] and whatever other command there may be, are summed up in this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”[b] 10 Love does no harm to a neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law. Did Jesus come to fulfill the law thus excusing us from the fulfillment of the law? obviously NOT. Jesus Himself said He did not come to abolish the Law. Paul talks about the law is not easy to understand and comprehend, there are associated conditions and applications and the limitations and constraints of the law under the old covenant (letter and the law is external to the man) and the spirit of the law in the new covenant (written on the circumsized heart) motivates by love.... something like that, I am still in the process of grasping it honestly and hoping someone can come up with a comprehensive book on the subject rather than treat it on peace meal basis. Kudos to Rev GO on the excellent rebuttal and teaching. Enough said jp is antinomian bordering on lawlessness. Sermon on the mount is where Jesus identifies Himself with the voice of God who spoke from heaven over Mount Sinai giving the ten commandments.

  • @yosefguangjingchen6481
    @yosefguangjingchen6481 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Unless Joseph Prince repented, he will go to hell when he died.

  • @ar2784
    @ar2784 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The Bible is very clear, the ministry of death is the Law, it's amazing how the brothers in this channel twist and turn it into something else when the scriptures are so clear, the Spirit give life and Law leads to death. Are you under Grace or Law

    • @edmundsim6251
      @edmundsim6251 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Love of God is the underlying reason we are to keep the 10 Commandments. Jesus said, “If you love Me, keep My commandments” (John 14:15). Noting the same concept, the apostle John later wrote: “For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments.
      I don't want to argue with a budding Christian that is already twisting his tongue for the sake of a particular cult and a person. You don't even know how the 10 commandments come into being in order to say that.

    • @davidching7803
      @davidching7803 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      The Bible is clear but you are unclear.
      You are misinterpreting the Bible and parroting the same tune as JP with half truth.
      Go watch the whole video, understand the Law in the Bible in its right context before uttering nonsense here.

    • @lindsaylim5806
      @lindsaylim5806 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Which bible are you reading?
      Don't fall into the trap of picking what is meant for you and what is not meant for you from the Bible as a Christian. A true Christian holds on to the whole counsel of God. Only a false teacher like Joseph Prince dictates what NCC should believe or not believe from the Bible.
      Why do JP and those in NCC call themselves Christians if they treat God's Words so frivolously??

    • @michellechuah37
      @michellechuah37 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​​@@lindsaylim5806
      Hi I am not from New creation church but I support his grace preaching. If u are a Christian then bring souls to God. Stop all the condemning towards a servant of God...Your character is not Christlike!
      Are u an unbeliever????.

    • @edmundsim6251
      @edmundsim6251 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@michellechuah37 Does God needs ungodly souls? By blasphemy against the Holy Spirit and the Words of God, many can't be harvested for they become the followers of Satan instead.
      Also, a servant of God won't spread lies about the bible, called Leah a slave woman (factually wrong obviously) and calls for people not to believe in the 10 commandments, among many other things that directly go against the teachings of Jesus and his Apostles.
      There is a reason why Jesus left behind his Apostles to affirm his teachers. JP's prospersity teaching is against what the Apostles have said. Stop quoting them left and right, they have never endorse what JP has said or else it would be long been written already. Follow Jesus' teaching for Christ's sake.
      Against all the evidences, you have chosen to cast your lot with a follower of satan who by his own admittance, broken all 10 commandments and practiced witchcraft, even got proclaimed by a pastor as demonic possessed at one point.
      Clearly, your soul is not saved for not reading your bible and disregarding the teachings of Christ.
      You may support his grace teaching but this only means that you are following JP and not Christ.
      Didn't Jesus himself says that there will be many that called upon his name but he will say that he did not know them?
      Before you totally discard the teachings in the bible which is from God, think again if you are of the right harvest.
      I am sure that you are painting yourself a very beautiful picture where you will surely go to heaven when you die because you are the believer of Christ. Do you even know what is the First Resurrection and Second Resurrection of the Christ body means? Obviously you don't because you are having a mindset that Jesus is only coming to save the Christians.
      Turn back and be obedient to the teachings of Christ, listen to his warnings, the Apostle warnings. Buy a bible with explainations as footnotes.