Right?! He started his video by saying Gen rushing and then said invocation. You could literally do 2 gens in the time it takes to use this hideous perk.
Partially true. I break down the math in my full video but it does10 seconds to every generator which is 70 seconds of progress on the generators but only 50 seconds of progress on the generators you are trying to complete, but it’s hard to put an time on the amount of time it would take to run around and do 10 seconds of work on each generator. Or it’s hard to put a value on the pressure you put on the killer by giving every generator less charges. But 120 seconds for an invocation is a long time
i mean if you can teleport and apply permanent pressure to all the gens it would be better alternatively you can just have your friend bring the invocation as well and then its actually mathematically better not just realistically better and even quicker invocation aswell
@@SthLoopStraz You're also not taking into account the amount of time you can waste having an extra health state. The perk is mathematically horrible. 10 charges on 5 generators is 50 charges gens take 90 charges to complete aka u are spending 120 seconds to only do a lil more then half of a single gen. Time is better spent on gens. as u can legit just sit on an entire gen for 90 seconds (Not running around between gens since u can just be on the one gen) and u already did SO much more then invocation weaving spiders. So your theory about oh its not accounting for running between gens, is wrong because u would never need to do that when you can just sit on a single generator and complete it. Also its not realistic that you and your friend will both be able to be down in the basement. Aura reading perks will quickly have your invocation canceled or someone getting hooked will require ur teammate to save them. Perk builds are meant to be efficient and strong every game if you care about meta and winning. AKA you need a build that can consistently work every match not some niche 10% chance that you can have all the perfect things line up for you to just break even.
@@BrandonPyatte You do not need the most optimal build in every scenario, the video title isn't correct in that this is the best genrushing build, but you do NOT need to run the most perfect consistency build every game. If you feel that way then you are part of the reason why this game gets boring for people, and why it is unfun to balance things because you prefer efficiency over fun
@@user-ko7gk7wp5xit takes 60 seconds now. For mobile at least 😭. Still, id just run Purple toolbox with extra charges/speed •Scavenger • Stakeout •Hyper focus • deja vu The value on this is crazy bc it’s gonna keep recharging your toolbox + speed up gen.
Games physically impossible to get into for new players unless they dedicate over 600 hours just to reach below average and have to spend a shit ton more money to get the necessary perks to keep up with meta at higher ranks. Its busted garbage thats only fun if you hate your life or yourself.
This guy is def a killer main trying to get dumbasses killed. A real gen build is Stakeout/Hyperfocus/Resilience/Built To Last, with a Commodious Toolbox and two charge addons.
Man is speaking facts. Nobody is gonna run Invocation to actually do gens. Its right up there with self-care as being basically a killer perk Toolboxes and raw speed are still the ways to go
i prefer fogwise over resilience, since it lets me basically always know exactly where the killer is at any given time so i can run before they even show up. i also don't have built to last unlocked, so i just play detective's hunch because it's underrated.
So it’s 10 seconds of un-regressable progress to all gens. Which is definitely valuable in the right situation. I would definitely recommend running this with a swf so your team can help with the invocation and then also take chases while you crush gens.
@@dariusbrawl3759I dont think weaving spiders is good, dont get me wrong, but that 10% unregressable does come up, since gen tapping isnt a thing anymore, say the killer is running pop or pain res, those perks are essentially worse with what amounts to a brand new part on every gen
@@dariusbrawl3759 the exact same thing that weaving spiders is, it makes perks that do percentage regression worse, and at the bare minimum a gen can only be regressed to what amounts to 10%
So THAT’S what my freak teammates were doing before we even got a single gen done. If anyone cares, we got 4k’d by a Pyramid Head with only 1 gen completed, and I was the one who finished it
Hahaha yes the invocation is a lengthy process and it works better when your in a SWF so everyone is on the same page. You almost have to lay low for the first few minutes until it’s complete or join in
Weaving Spiders at least is a permanent 10% on all the gens even if you die, which you probably will since you don't have Iron Will with this build. Yes, you are better off just doing gens but it can at least be a fun personal challenge to do a match Broken without screwing your team from the start because you are against Oni. Everything else is just like, what?
@@sturmkatze2822 I love Weaving Spiders and I know I'm 100% better of doing anything other than the Invocation. I just think it's fun. The build in this video just takes that and makes it even more of a handicap on yourself.
You'll also be flying through hook states Also, you can do more than 50% of a gen in the time it takes to do the invocation, not to mention you become a liability to your team by being insta downable.
Yeah you have to have good teammates who are able to take chases and help with the invocation. But it’s fun to crush gens once the invocation is complete
@@Ro-Ghost btw, Is not even 50% of a gen, with the right build you can legit do almost 2 gen in the time he do the invocation, of corse of he did get interupted a single time, cuz invocation progress basicaly ista reset
More like the spend a minute and a half doing an invo and getting on a gen when you would already have a gen done in that time plus you’re perma-broken because haha get owned build
Resilience and deja vu are also good substitutes for any of these. 9% repair heal vault etc when injured/broken if you have resilience or reveal the closest 3 gens in proximity to each other(so you can prevent getting 3 genned) and a smaller speed boost if you take deja vu
Let me give u a better one. Lmk iff this helps Perks: 1-hyperfocus 2-stakout 3-overzelous 4-resilance Toolbox: Comm toolbox and any add ones that u think makes it go faster
By the time the invocation is done a gen has probably been popped already and most likely someone has been hooked. Not to mention your chases are now much shorter because you only have one health state at all times.
Idk what the actual best gen rusher build is but i run: Deadline, hyperfocus, stake out, and either built to last or that one gabriel soma perk that lets you repair your tooblox.
I love Invocation: Weaving Spiders but even I know that I'm not playing optimally if I'm using it. Iron Will and Resilience are already WAY better for a Weaving Spiders build and it gives you a free forth slot for another perk of your choice.
Personally I run Deja vu Streetwise (That one felix perk with the ruler) Prove thyself Then I bring in a commodious with max charges and find a friend to do the Gen with. After which I get into a locker to reset 99% charges on my toolbox and repeat. It’s insane how fast a Gen can be done with this combo.
@@SthLoopStraz It's even better if your friend that you are doing a gen with has a toolbox as well to even speed it up even more. I don't know how good it is compared to Hyperfocus stakeout but the ease of use compared to it makes it feel more consistent.
Invocations got buffed with half the time, so this build can actually buy a lot of time. Of course, I'm a This Is Not Happening enjoyer, and it does pair well with Hyperfocus since it can pretty much make most of your skill checks become greats, but if you are fine with just Stake Out, obviously replace This Is Not Happening with Resilience. But for the meme, I'll use This Is Not Happening.
I like Dejan vu, prove thyself, friendly competition, and resilience. Overall buff to gen speed without hiding in basement for 2 minutes. Good build though
invocation is getting a buff (probably). It will only take 60 seconds instead of 120. And regress per second is going from 20 charges per second to just 1.
Invocation weaving spiders is sable ward. Hyper focus is Rebecca chambers. This is not happening is just a general perk. And stake out is detective tapp!
Do not run any of these perks especially hyperfocus if you're new Invocation is Sable Ward's perk, but it's a bait because it tooks too long to complete, can get interrupted and you become injured for rest of the game This is not happening is a general perk and it's straight up trash and not worth bringing under any circumstance. Hyperfocus is Rebbeca Chambers' perk. A tricky perk that you need to be extremely good at hitting skill checks, which is for veterans Stake out is Detective Tapp's and you can actually bring that one. As long as you stay in killer's terror radius, you hit skill checks better with extra progress.
I run something close to this and it works..but invocation is such a pain. Invocation, resilience, deja vu and built to last along with a bad ass toolbox and youre good to go.
I love stakeout, sometimes that extra progress can save the game. It's saved me, fun to do with deadline and double suture medkit to heal in usually 5 seconds
@@SthLoopStraz my build is Strength in shadows Off the record Deliverance Spring burst And I don’t understand why everyone is hating, this is a fire build!!
my gen rush build is deja vu, stakeout, hyperfocus, resilience. paired with a maxed out toolbox, you can fly through. prove thyself and built to last are also strong perks you can use in place of resilience depending on the overall vibe of the play session
My build: hyper focus, built to last, stake out, + any perk e.g. Fogwise for reading aura and you will avoid the coming killer, resilence for 9% or Streetwise. Without forgetting about green toolbox with max charges.
Here's an option for a FREE version without having to spend money on licensed characters or leave up to RNG in the shrine to get the perks from: - Streetwise - Deja Vu - Scavenger - Potential Energy The last two perks can be gotten from unlocking two characters using iridescent shards instead of having to purchase two licensed characters. The reason I put scavenger is because of using a great tool box to speed up the process of repairing, and then after it's depleted, you can just hit skill checks to refill it, so you never have to stop repairing the gen. Potential Energy is kind of a niche choice, but I like to use it for "emergency" situations by stocking up on tokens first, and then holding onto them until I see the killer running at me repairing the gen. I then pop the tokens, make instant progress, and book it out of there.
Commodious Toolbox w/Built To Last, Streetwise, Stakeout and Hyperfocus. For more ease of use, drop Stakeout and Hyperfocus for Overzealous and Resilience
Here's a gen build I use, try invocation of weaving spiders, deja vu, resilience, and no mither. Itself definitely a slow start but it pays well, this build with a 4 stack is amazing for gen aggression
This is terrible, the invocation is mathematically always a time waste, but if you use it still, using resilience is almost mandetory. Hyperfocused is good, but wasting another perkslot for it makes it inefficient again.
My personal generation build is: fast track, resilience, invocation weaving spiders, and then potential energy, and then you add a toolbox and some add-ons and you’re all good
This perk can reduce generator progess up to 50% (100% progress of generator takes around 80 seconds) so 50% would be around 40 seconds while invocation takes up to 120 seconds and I don’t think it can take only 40 seconds even if you did it with 3 friends (For a briefly calculation it would be around 48 seconds). However, one of you will get get broken which considerably lessens chase time for that survivor, making killer ends the chase by downing you quicker and we also neglected the fact that killer might walk into basement. So right now this perk is real useless. There is no benefit to use it after all.
This actually seems somewhat viable now with the buff that the invocation only takes 60 seconds. I'd replace stake out with Resilience that way you get additional repair speed, on top of easier skill checks.
Bruh who let this man cook? Just run Built to Last & Streetwise with a good toolbox. Trust me anybody who's new you'll thank me, his build is beyond counterable. Might as well just throw the game if you unironically plan on running his build.
If you’re on PC or even just able to consistently hit great skill checks Scavenger is a better perk than BTL, yes it does come with a slowdown when it procs, but it gives you a full toolbox instead of diminishing returns
a much better build if you still want to use invocation would be: invocation resilience hyperfocus stake out / off the record (choose either pure genrush or survivability)
Or use a better perk build using: Invocation weaving spiders, resilience, stake out, and hyperfocus. That would actually be good. However, I don’t use all-gen perks. I just use stake out, hyperfocus, bite the bullet, and lithe as it’s a balance of generators/looping build.
@SthLoopStraz im moreso hating on the game than anything else ... I just don't understand how changing up such minor things can make repeating the same task every game fun ... this game has so much diversity when it comes to killers for a game that has one single thing for survivors to do.. needs to be like devour where every map is a dif task
@@ericwtfsky as someone who played dbd there’s a lot more to the game than gens for example looping killers healing teammates and creating/ destroying boons. dbd is one of the games where the fun relies on the players and since you’ll be playing different killers and people the gameplay loop with always be somewhat fresh
@@ericwtfsky I feel you man. Take a little break if it isn't fun. When TCM dropped I thought it was super cool all the tasks you had to do but I also got tired with that real fast. I try random builds as survivor and I have fun with it but if its boring switch it up a bit. Or try finding a build you enjoy
@@SthLoopStraz You arent gen "rushing" with this perk you are doing gens slower. This is a killer perk. You really shouldnt be trying to spread misinformation, we dont need more random people in solo queue throwing games trying to use this perk.
i get what you're saying but TINH perk could be replaced for Built to last. then you can pair that up with a Toolbox with duration add-ons. or even resilience because it gets value all game when you're broken after the invocation.
With Lara Croft released, she has a perk that does what invocation does but rather than wasting time on a thing then getting broken, you waste time on a thing that might give you a toolbox. Specialist I think it’s called
Personally, I use: -Streetwise -Hyperfocus -Stake out -Scavenger This build, matched with a good toolbox I find insane if you focus in with great skill checks/get some stake out tokens
Swap out the Invo for De Ja Vue. Helps prevent 3 gen and don't have to be injured the whole game for it. Might only be 6%, but still better than being a health state down constantly.
NGL I did this last night with a modified "Discount" variant. Instead of hyperfocus and stake out I had deja vu and kindred. It worked 3/5 times, 4 of which had me succeed in the invocation but 1 of them we died due to good killer play after 3 gen.
Deja Vu, Built to last, Prove thyself, streetwise (Or Hyperfocus), paired with a tool box (I like the 32 charge one), if you want to live, remove one perk and exchange for Kindred or another perk of your choice that keeps eyes on the killer like Fogwise. If you're prone to injury, swap one perk with Resilience. If you want to screw with the killer, swap a perk of choice for blast mine. Just what works for me. 🤷♀️
The point of invocation is to perma lower the time it takes a surv to repair any gen by 11.11% (10 charges of 90) Its not ideal for gen rushing! its best used for gen harass. Mostly helpful for breaking 3gens. It forces killers to aim for shorter chases because a surv poking at gens is more effective. Paired with a missing part addon or laras chest perk to further reduce max time on gen you can more easily do gens safely between killer patrol checks.
I understand the point of these are to just make a maybe viable build using any of the new perks, but just off the top of my head: IWS, No Mither, Iron Will, Resilience. You're already taking the downside of NM so you just take tve increased stealth and functional immunity to slugging (although in the way that youll just get hooked instead). IW to finish off the grunts of pain, so you are silent and leave no blood. Resi to give you the gen repair speed. Additional improvements over this: no paid DLC, you only need to prestige the free David and Jake instead of paying for Tapp and Rebecca. You maximize strengths from your weaknesses instead of counteracting your strengths with eachother (as TINH's entire value is replaced by Stakeout)
Invocation: weaving spiders Resiliance Deja vu Iron will Perma-insta down, but you do gens in 68 seconds, sooo... (Ps, i use this build regularly, its pretty fun)
I would change Weaving Spiders for Deja Vu. The best perk against the three-gen endgame, and 6% bonus repair aint bad too. Technician is another good option.
I just use invocation for fun. and now specialist is coming out soon i could get more value technically so yeah. I feel like this build is only actually good if every teammate uses brand new part as well and also bringing specialist.
For me I’d use weaving spiders with resilient for the permanent boost to many stats whiles injured combined with dead hard for some extra survivability and iron will of all things cause your so noisy when injured and will be exhausted less with dead hard.
The biggest mistakes survivors make is burning a basement offering with the invocation. I just wander to the basement after a little while and they are ALWAYS sitting there like idiots.
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Never let this guy cook again
Right?! He started his video by saying Gen rushing and then said invocation. You could literally do 2 gens in the time it takes to use this hideous perk.
Honestly its not a bad gen build if ur playing with a swif
@@DanFrazier-pt2rkliterally just use prove thyself lol
@@DanFrazier-pt2rk if you want a good gen build just use prove thyself, stake out, fast track and hyperfocus/resilience
@@jellybaathis
No way you’re telling me the best build starts with “this is not happening”
It helps since hyperfocus speeds up the skill check speed and i run it with needle and suture med kit to speed up healing alot
@@alybadry203this is not happening is quite literally the worst perk in the game
@@r1singhell”Up the Ante” enters the chat 💬
If you’re broken the rest of the game why not run resilience?
@@marcv913 nah even THAT is better than this is not happening
As a killer player, thank you for making this short!
Yeah, we don't to being slow downs anymore, he Is doing It for us lol
I am so grateful that survivors are wasting perk slots 😅
@@MyLuvAbu
60 seconds is a good change for the perk
It’s probably around a B tier perk.
The broken status symbol is to a killer what light is to a moth.
@@mindofshadow1780bro what the fuck are you saying?
If you do the math the time needed for invocation is better spent on a gen
Partially true. I break down the math in my full video but it does10 seconds to every generator which is 70 seconds of progress on the generators but only 50 seconds of progress on the generators you are trying to complete, but it’s hard to put an time on the amount of time it would take to run around and do 10 seconds of work on each generator. Or it’s hard to put a value on the pressure you put on the killer by giving every generator less charges. But 120 seconds for an invocation is a long time
i mean if you can teleport and apply permanent pressure to all the gens it would be better alternatively you can just have your friend bring the invocation as well and then its actually mathematically better not just realistically better and even quicker invocation aswell
@@SthLoopStraz You're also not taking into account the amount of time you can waste having an extra health state. The perk is mathematically horrible. 10 charges on 5 generators is 50 charges gens take 90 charges to complete aka u are spending 120 seconds to only do a lil more then half of a single gen. Time is better spent on gens. as u can legit just sit on an entire gen for 90 seconds (Not running around between gens since u can just be on the one gen) and u already did SO much more then invocation weaving spiders. So your theory about oh its not accounting for running between gens, is wrong because u would never need to do that when you can just sit on a single generator and complete it.
Also its not realistic that you and your friend will both be able to be down in the basement. Aura reading perks will quickly have your invocation canceled or someone getting hooked will require ur teammate to save them. Perk builds are meant to be efficient and strong every game if you care about meta and winning. AKA you need a build that can consistently work every match not some niche 10% chance that you can have all the perfect things line up for you to just break even.
@@BrandonPyatte You do not need the most optimal build in every scenario, the video title isn't correct in that this is the best genrushing build, but you do NOT need to run the most perfect consistency build every game. If you feel that way then you are part of the reason why this game gets boring for people, and why it is unfun to balance things because you prefer efficiency over fun
Does that counter tinkerer if I bring bnp
Anyone suggesting Invocation is clearly just a Killer trying to bait for basements 💀💀
every killer player is gonna check basements
@@spaceacepl4636I never do unless I see scratch marks
60 seconds isn’t bad for invocation.
But neither is my terrorial imperative.
@@C0d0psit takes 120 seconds to activate it.
@@user-ko7gk7wp5xit takes 60 seconds now. For mobile at least 😭. Still, id just run
Purple toolbox with extra charges/speed
•Scavenger
• Stakeout
•Hyper focus
• deja vu
The value on this is crazy bc it’s gonna keep recharging your toolbox + speed up gen.
We getting new players killed with this one.
Yeah new players shouldn’t be broken the whole game.
No they shouldnt be using this is not happening
@@Hero_AR15 I've been playing since before the Saw chapter, and Technician has never failed me.
@@YillanTheVillaintechnician is only good for noobs, you’ve been playing for 6 years, I think you need to take it off buddy
Games physically impossible to get into for new players unless they dedicate over 600 hours just to reach below average and have to spend a shit ton more money to get the necessary perks to keep up with meta at higher ranks. Its busted garbage thats only fun if you hate your life or yourself.
This guy is def a killer main trying to get dumbasses killed. A real gen build is Stakeout/Hyperfocus/Resilience/Built To Last, with a Commodious Toolbox and two charge addons.
👀🤔
Man is speaking facts. Nobody is gonna run Invocation to actually do gens. Its right up there with self-care as being basically a killer perk
Toolboxes and raw speed are still the ways to go
I think scavenger is better that Built to Last
i prefer fogwise over resilience, since it lets me basically always know exactly where the killer is at any given time so i can run before they even show up. i also don't have built to last unlocked, so i just play detective's hunch because it's underrated.
@@supergamer869yt7how?!
Spending 2 Minutes to gain a 50s time save is insane to consider good
So it’s 10 seconds of un-regressable progress to all gens. Which is definitely valuable in the right situation. I would definitely recommend running this with a swf so your team can help with the invocation and then also take chases while you crush gens.
@@SthLoopStrazthat "unregressqble" point really only comes up if you pop a gen *via* this perk
@@dariusbrawl3759I dont think weaving spiders is good, dont get me wrong, but that 10% unregressable does come up, since gen tapping isnt a thing anymore, say the killer is running pop or pain res, those perks are essentially worse with what amounts to a brand new part on every gen
@@demon_spawn1535 Yea, but afaik, the main benefit of parts is that it's a -10%
@@dariusbrawl3759 the exact same thing that weaving spiders is, it makes perks that do percentage regression worse, and at the bare minimum a gen can only be regressed to what amounts to 10%
As an oni main I greatly support this build and think survivors should use it for sure, very good build
As a singularity main i also support this build, they Need to use It more
Why would you call it good if you main killers you wouldn't care or dislike it cuz it's good
@@tanyaneilsen5680 that’s the joke, easier for them to get a 4K if 1-2 people sit in basement and waste time on this 😂
@@aliciabutler8424 I would love it, if someone does this all the survivor's make it out or make out both are good
@@tanyaneilsen5680they are being sarcastic 😅
only thing this build rushes is you onto the basement hooks
FORREAL I hate this perk
So THAT’S what my freak teammates were doing before we even got a single gen done.
If anyone cares, we got 4k’d by a Pyramid Head with only 1 gen completed, and I was the one who finished it
Hahaha yes the invocation is a lengthy process and it works better when your in a SWF so everyone is on the same page. You almost have to lay low for the first few minutes until it’s complete or join in
average weaving spiders match
PLSSS I may have been on that match too
@@rayvenbird6650 Yamaoka estate? With the basement in the center monument?
@@SthLoopStrazand of the killer have 1 single aura perk or Just appen to pass by your entire team Is Just dead
Sound like a usefull perk
As a killer if I see someone with invocation I leave them because it takes some balls to use it
😂😂
Thank you
i love this perk as a killer always giving me free kills especially as nurse 😂
Especially if you have aura reading perks kinda puts an end to a build like this
@@SthLoopStraz yeah and i got like 4 aura perks on most my killers 😂
@@fr4styyy 💀💀
Nah others telling me 😂@SthLoopStraz
Same for me as a blight, the only problem with aura reading perks is that if survivors r using distortion w r fucked up xd
If I see another teammate using invocation im gonna loss my shit
Same. I just get myself killed on purpose if I see anyone using invocation. You wanna waste time in the basement? I’m going next, byeeeeeee
Will it look anything like your profile picture? 😅
Bro tried to sneak spiders in there
Weaving Spiders at least is a permanent 10% on all the gens even if you die, which you probably will since you don't have Iron Will with this build. Yes, you are better off just doing gens but it can at least be a fun personal challenge to do a match Broken without screwing your team from the start because you are against Oni. Everything else is just like, what?
@@TheOneWhoReportsForDuty this build is just really bad in general lol
@@sturmkatze2822 I love Weaving Spiders and I know I'm 100% better of doing anything other than the Invocation. I just think it's fun. The build in this video just takes that and makes it even more of a handicap on yourself.
@@TheOneWhoReportsForDuty atleast you acknowledge it lmao
You'll also be flying through hook states
Also, you can do more than 50% of a gen in the time it takes to do the invocation, not to mention you become a liability to your team by being insta downable.
Yeah you have to have good teammates who are able to take chases and help with the invocation. But it’s fun to crush gens once the invocation is complete
@@SthLoopStraz but why not do gens normally and not be in a perma insta down state?
@@Ro-Ghost btw, Is not even 50% of a gen, with the right build you can legit do almost 2 gen in the time he do the invocation, of corse of he did get interupted a single time, cuz invocation progress basicaly ista reset
@mindofshadow1780 im aware im just sayin at minimum you can do more than 50% so that in itself makes it a waste
So in other words, get myself tunnelled build…
More like the spend a minute and a half doing an invo and getting on a gen when you would already have a gen done in that time plus you’re perma-broken because haha get owned build
Resilience and deja vu are also good substitutes for any of these. 9% repair heal vault etc when injured/broken if you have resilience or reveal the closest 3 gens in proximity to each other(so you can prevent getting 3 genned) and a smaller speed boost if you take deja vu
Resilience sure but...this is not happening, if your bad at hitting great skill checks whatever run it. But resilience is a better perk for this
Let me give u a better one. Lmk iff this helps
Perks:
1-hyperfocus
2-stakout
3-overzelous
4-resilance
Toolbox:
Comm toolbox and any add ones that u think makes it go faster
Literally every time my team mates use this perk they waste the entire match trying to get the perk to work while letting their team die on hook 😂
Yes!.. invocation mixed with other perks is so OP
By the time the invocation is done a gen has probably been popped already and most likely someone has been hooked. Not to mention your chases are now much shorter because you only have one health state at all times.
Did you just unironically tell people to use the dollar-store resilience perk?
*kicks shack gen with nowhere to hide
" Well would you look at that,free kills doordashed straight to the basement" 😂
Yeahhhh that would be terrible. You need to have teammates to keep the killer busy
@@SthLoopStrazor Just don't run that terribile perk bruh
@@mindofshadow1780 and yet he has a popular TH-cam channel and you dony
Idk what the actual best gen rusher build is but i run: Deadline, hyperfocus, stake out, and either built to last or that one gabriel soma perk that lets you repair your tooblox.
Replace invocation with de ja vu TBH
might be about 5 seconds of value, but it prevents 3-gens, and would be a *positive* time difference
Yeah Deja Vu is a really good perk. You really can’t go wrong using it
I love Invocation: Weaving Spiders but even I know that I'm not playing optimally if I'm using it. Iron Will and Resilience are already WAY better for a Weaving Spiders build and it gives you a free forth slot for another perk of your choice.
Be a man. Run No Mither in the year of the Entity 2024. (I truly don't care about min-maxing, have fun)
Personally I run
Deja vu
Streetwise
(That one felix perk with the ruler)
Prove thyself
Then I bring in a commodious with max charges and find a friend to do the Gen with. After which I get into a locker to reset 99% charges on my toolbox and repeat. It’s insane how fast a Gen can be done with this combo.
Sounds like a fun gen rushing build as well! I might have to give that a go
@@SthLoopStraz It's even better if your friend that you are doing a gen with has a toolbox as well to even speed it up even more. I don't know how good it is compared to Hyperfocus stakeout but the ease of use compared to it makes it feel more consistent.
Invocations got buffed with half the time, so this build can actually buy a lot of time. Of course, I'm a This Is Not Happening enjoyer, and it does pair well with Hyperfocus since it can pretty much make most of your skill checks become greats, but if you are fine with just Stake Out, obviously replace This Is Not Happening with Resilience. But for the meme, I'll use This Is Not Happening.
I like Dejan vu, prove thyself, friendly competition, and resilience. Overall buff to gen speed without hiding in basement for 2 minutes. Good build though
invocation is getting a buff (probably). It will only take 60 seconds instead of 120. And regress per second is going from 20 charges per second to just 1.
friendly competition is terrible just because the buff is so small
I scrolled past your video so fast as son as I heard the invocation perk
Who has these perks? Im new-ish to the game, thank you!
Invocation weaving spiders is sable ward. Hyper focus is Rebecca chambers. This is not happening is just a general perk. And stake out is detective tapp!
@@SthLoopStraz thank you!!
@@micahhughes8447 please dont run this build its not good
Do not run any of these perks especially hyperfocus if you're new
Invocation is Sable Ward's perk, but it's a bait because it tooks too long to complete, can get interrupted and you become injured for rest of the game
This is not happening is a general perk and it's straight up trash and not worth bringing under any circumstance.
Hyperfocus is Rebbeca Chambers' perk. A tricky perk that you need to be extremely good at hitting skill checks, which is for veterans
Stake out is Detective Tapp's and you can actually bring that one. As long as you stay in killer's terror radius, you hit skill checks better with extra progress.
@@Ineedabigboi1771or just let them play the game the way they want to
I run something close to this and it works..but invocation is such a pain.
Invocation, resilience, deja vu and built to last along with a bad ass toolbox and youre good to go.
Yeah that seems like a fire build also
I had two people try and get that going against me. Two free kills before a gen was done lol
I love stakeout, sometimes that extra progress can save the game. It's saved me, fun to do with deadline and double suture medkit to heal in usually 5 seconds
Stake out a great perk. It always comes through in the clutch
But you could also use resilience for that extra boost!!
Yup either works. It’s really just a preference. I experimented with that a fair bit as well
@@SthLoopStraz my build is
Strength in shadows
Off the record
Deliverance
Spring burst
And I don’t understand why everyone is hating, this is a fire build!!
@@WRSHalloween well looks to me like a self unhook / anti tunnel build
my gen rush build is deja vu, stakeout, hyperfocus, resilience. paired with a maxed out toolbox, you can fly through. prove thyself and built to last are also strong perks you can use in place of resilience depending on the overall vibe of the play session
Proceeds to get tunneled with no anti tunnel
Ds ?! Also why should there be an anti tunnel ? If a survivor can gen rush then a killer can tunnel 😂😅
Gen rushing doesn't account for an anti tunnel anyway lol
@@PintOfMintand this suck as a gen rush XD
Tunnel?
As someone who has 15 hours on dbd, even i wouldn't fall for this one
This man is trying so hard to make weaving spiders good at all lol.
My build: hyper focus, built to last, stake out, + any perk e.g. Fogwise for reading aura and you will avoid the coming killer, resilence for 9% or Streetwise. Without forgetting about green toolbox with max charges.
Here's an option for a FREE version without having to spend money on licensed characters or leave up to RNG in the shrine to get the perks from:
- Streetwise
- Deja Vu
- Scavenger
- Potential Energy
The last two perks can be gotten from unlocking two characters using iridescent shards instead of having to purchase two licensed characters. The reason I put scavenger is because of using a great tool box to speed up the process of repairing, and then after it's depleted, you can just hit skill checks to refill it, so you never have to stop repairing the gen. Potential Energy is kind of a niche choice, but I like to use it for "emergency" situations by stocking up on tokens first, and then holding onto them until I see the killer running at me repairing the gen. I then pop the tokens, make instant progress, and book it out of there.
good strategy bro
Commodious Toolbox w/Built To Last, Streetwise, Stakeout and Hyperfocus. For more ease of use, drop Stakeout and Hyperfocus for Overzealous and Resilience
I do not like weaving spiders, feel like the broken and time is not worth it
Yeah it made me feel a bit useless in a match but I did feel like I was shredding generators
@@SthLoopStraz Why not run No Mither, Resilience and Deja Vu. No pools of blood, 75% reduce grunts, 15% increased gen speed
@@portcomet18 Thats an option also. I experimented with resilience and deja vu but I liked this build the best.
Here's a gen build I use, try invocation of weaving spiders, deja vu, resilience, and no mither. Itself definitely a slow start but it pays well, this build with a 4 stack is amazing for gen aggression
Yes, sure, mister Blight in disguise, haha.
This is terrible, the invocation is mathematically always a time waste, but if you use it still, using resilience is almost mandetory. Hyperfocused is good, but wasting another perkslot for it makes it inefficient again.
Why not no mither too?lol
Resilience is much better option than TINH. You need it for escaping a situation anyway, due to the 9% vaulting/unhooking speed.
Anytime i see a teamate using invocation, i always fast enter the basment lockers😂
Technician+hyperfocus+fog wise and aim for the perfect skill check yourself without having to be in killer's radius(stakeout)
Nah. You gotta bring self-care to get rid of the broken status effect
Self care is mid
@@SthLoopStraz I know, but it’s needed in this build
@@SthLoopStrazbro wdym, self care goes crazy
My personal generation build is: fast track, resilience, invocation weaving spiders, and then potential energy, and then you add a toolbox and some add-ons and you’re all good
Invocation is just a perks for killer at thdi point, not worth at all, a nightmare for solo Q
This perk can reduce generator progess up to 50% (100% progress of generator takes around 80 seconds) so 50% would be around 40 seconds while invocation takes up to 120 seconds and I don’t think it can take only 40 seconds even if you did it with 3 friends (For a briefly calculation it would be around 48 seconds). However, one of you will get get broken which considerably lessens chase time for that survivor, making killer ends the chase by downing you quicker and we also neglected the fact that killer might walk into basement. So right now this perk is real useless. There is no benefit to use it after all.
Use streetwise. Don’t use invocation.
This actually seems somewhat viable now with the buff that the invocation only takes 60 seconds. I'd replace stake out with Resilience that way you get additional repair speed, on top of easier skill checks.
Ash tier strats
The sheer amount of times that ive grabbed people off invocation is actually insane. Especially since i play Legion not a stealth killer.
Yeah if you don’t have teammates help you out and/or distracting the killer
If they're invoking they will commit and not get up
@@PintOfMint The fact that it takes so damn long to stand up from invocation is funny to me. I've gotten so many downs from healthy because of it.
@@Dystopian_k1ng yeah that's part of why they commit. Not worth getting off
Bruh who let this man cook? Just run Built to Last & Streetwise with a good toolbox. Trust me anybody who's new you'll thank me, his build is beyond counterable. Might as well just throw the game if you unironically plan on running his build.
If you’re on PC or even just able to consistently hit great skill checks Scavenger is a better perk than BTL, yes it does come with a slowdown when it procs, but it gives you a full toolbox instead of diminishing returns
a much better build if you still want to use invocation would be:
invocation
resilience
hyperfocus
stake out / off the record (choose either pure genrush or survivability)
please stop promoting this perk its garbage and because of you all guys people start using it and wasting time in game please stop this...
Well it's way fester now
Or use a better perk build using: Invocation weaving spiders, resilience, stake out, and hyperfocus. That would actually be good. However, I don’t use all-gen perks. I just use stake out, hyperfocus, bite the bullet, and lithe as it’s a balance of generators/looping build.
But I never used the invocation perk. Just seemed like a waste of a time, me personally
wow gotta min max on a game where u literally have 1 task fun game
Hey if there is a way to do things faster, people are going do it. I like playing all different styles as survivor. Keep it fresh.
@SthLoopStraz im moreso hating on the game than anything else ... I just don't understand how changing up such minor things can make repeating the same task every game fun ... this game has so much diversity when it comes to killers for a game that has one single thing for survivors to do.. needs to be like devour where every map is a dif task
@@ericwtfsky as someone who played dbd there’s a lot more to the game than gens for example looping killers healing teammates and creating/ destroying boons. dbd is one of the games where the fun relies on the players and since you’ll be playing different killers and people the gameplay loop with always be somewhat fresh
@@im_javii but you're healing them so they can... fix generators lol
@@ericwtfsky I feel you man. Take a little break if it isn't fun. When TCM dropped I thought it was super cool all the tasks you had to do but I also got tired with that real fast. I try random builds as survivor and I have fun with it but if its boring switch it up a bit. Or try finding a build you enjoy
Best build to give your teammates aneurysms when they see you not on gena for like 2 minutes
brother, invocation is a meme.... no way you actually want touse it
Invocation is a metal perk brother 🤘🏻. Yeah it’s kinda a meme but it’s fun even solo gen rushing with this build
@@SthLoopStraz You arent gen "rushing" with this perk you are doing gens slower. This is a killer perk. You really shouldnt be trying to spread misinformation, we dont need more random people in solo queue throwing games trying to use this perk.
The 3 territorial instinct users are drooling over the Sable perk
i get what you're saying but TINH perk could be replaced for Built to last. then you can pair that up with a Toolbox with duration add-ons. or even resilience because it gets value all game when you're broken after the invocation.
With Lara Croft released, she has a perk that does what invocation does but rather than wasting time on a thing then getting broken, you waste time on a thing that might give you a toolbox. Specialist I think it’s called
Personally, I use:
-Streetwise
-Hyperfocus
-Stake out
-Scavenger
This build, matched with a good toolbox I find insane if you focus in with great skill checks/get some stake out tokens
Build to last , is 10x much better than streetwise!
I frequently have been using steakout, dejavu, hyperfocus and either shadow step, delivi, fogwise, or your prefered exuastion perk
Yeah that seems just as solid! Probably more well rounded
The invocation perk looks so cool and the execution is badass
Swap out the Invo for De Ja Vue. Helps prevent 3 gen and don't have to be injured the whole game for it. Might only be 6%, but still better than being a health state down constantly.
The final piece is that the friend should bring prove thyself
for those who think that they can hit most hyperfocus skillshecks, throw in Deadline instead of Stake out for more skillshecks=more progress.
NGL I did this last night with a modified "Discount" variant. Instead of hyperfocus and stake out I had deja vu and kindred. It worked 3/5 times, 4 of which had me succeed in the invocation but 1 of them we died due to good killer play after 3 gen.
Only thing I would change is "This is not happening" If your good at skill checks its not needed. So "Resilience" would be better for the 9%
Today I improvised a build for gen rushing, I used Déjà Vu,
Stake out,
Prove thyself,
Resilience or
Streetwise
"just have a friend".. i did not expect to get assaulted like that :(
Deja Vu, Built to last, Prove thyself, streetwise (Or Hyperfocus), paired with a tool box (I like the 32 charge one), if you want to live, remove one perk and exchange for Kindred or another perk of your choice that keeps eyes on the killer like Fogwise. If you're prone to injury, swap one perk with Resilience. If you want to screw with the killer, swap a perk of choice for blast mine. Just what works for me. 🤷♀️
Side note, but what's the song near when you bring up Hypercocus. Sounds like Animal Crossing and I dig it.
We NOT getting out of the basement with this one
Scavenger would be a better perk to add than invocation. It compliments all the other perks and refills a beefy toolbox infinite times
As a blight one trick I greatly recommend this build to all survivors in my trials
Ive been running; built to last, deja vu, hyperfocus, and stakeout with a toolbox and charge add-ons... 👍🏼👍🏼
Just so you know, I’ll be running noed, No way out, Undying, and Grim Embrace 😊
The Best Build Is Stake out hyper-focus fast track and Bardic inspiration
Bruh, I was just playing this build before I seen this short...sweeeeeet !!🎉
The point of invocation is to perma lower the time it takes a surv to repair any gen by 11.11% (10 charges of 90)
Its not ideal for gen rushing! its best used for gen harass. Mostly helpful for breaking 3gens.
It forces killers to aim for shorter chases because a surv poking at gens is more effective.
Paired with a missing part addon or laras chest perk to further reduce max time on gen you can more easily do gens safely between killer patrol checks.
Dejavu, resilience, and overzealous: am I a joke to you?
I understand the point of these are to just make a maybe viable build using any of the new perks, but just off the top of my head: IWS, No Mither, Iron Will, Resilience. You're already taking the downside of NM so you just take tve increased stealth and functional immunity to slugging (although in the way that youll just get hooked instead). IW to finish off the grunts of pain, so you are silent and leave no blood. Resi to give you the gen repair speed.
Additional improvements over this: no paid DLC, you only need to prestige the free David and Jake instead of paying for Tapp and Rebecca. You maximize strengths from your weaknesses instead of counteracting your strengths with eachother (as TINH's entire value is replaced by Stakeout)
Just wondering how many hours do you have?
No matter what the answer is, giving "advice" like this should relegate you to the "sub 50 hour noob" tier
Invocation: weaving spiders
Resiliance
Deja vu
Iron will
Perma-insta down, but you do gens in 68 seconds, sooo...
(Ps, i use this build regularly, its pretty fun)
I don't why or how but this has been the best build ever i have escaped twice from it now i dont want to overhype it but it's great for me!
Instructions unclear, just got tunneled out of the game 7 games in a row, thanks youtube dbd guy.
Brand New Part looks really shiny to use
Ahaha that’s where I’m at. Just want to do something different
I would change Weaving Spiders for Deja Vu. The best perk against the three-gen endgame, and 6% bonus repair aint bad too. Technician is another good option.
I just use invocation for fun. and now specialist is coming out soon i could get more value technically so yeah. I feel like this build is only actually good if every teammate uses brand new part as well and also bringing specialist.
For me I’d use weaving spiders with resilient for the permanent boost to many stats whiles injured combined with dead hard for some extra survivability and iron will of all things cause your so noisy when injured and will be exhausted less with dead hard.
Make sure to bring a brand new part aswell🤭
The biggest mistakes survivors make is burning a basement offering with the invocation. I just wander to the basement after a little while and they are ALWAYS sitting there like idiots.
I mean.... A free kill Is a free kill