When I think of the greatest improvisational musicians, these four are always on that list. And there are so many others, for example ,you have to mention Corea and Cobham, just out of respect. But, then there’s Pat Metheny. He just operates on another level. Not to say he’s better, or more talented, than these other aforementioned greats. But he just goes to places, that most musicians cant even contemplate. When he goes off on one of his playing tangents, the others in the group must be thinking “ I sure hope he comes back to us at some point !” . Kudos to Jack and Dave for keeping the rhythm section perfectly timed around Pat and Herbie’s improvisational swinging. This is just a fantastic version of Shadow Dance. Wow!
I can't get enough of this song. The way Herbie comes in on the off beat then Pat tearing it up on Guitar. Holland and DeJohnett carrying the tune. Should be a Jazz standard for the next 100 years. I love that they look like they real enjoy playing with each other.
ohhh, i remember this time, Metheney and Hancock, so different so freaky so special and then this Switzerland Clockwerk called DeJohnette and Mister Perfect Dave Holland---- it can´t get better and more creative...
This music helps me to better understand Quantum Physics; whereas the "event horizon" is where ever the listener is in space and time; and each musician masterfully applies all attributes of the particular force of nature they represent; Jack is time (continuum), Holland is the "gravitational force" , Pat is a cosmic event , a star (literally & figureably) and Herbie represents the "singularity", the black hole that absorbs even light particles (ideas) into the unknown....
@Shrimping Business Speaking seriously, this group WAS overwhelmingly powerful, as are the 2 distinct branches of post-Newtonian physics: general and special relativity on the one hand, and the interpretational confusion and conflict engendered by quantum mechanics of n the other. Shadow Dance FLOWS, in it's magnificently stark, brilliant and hugely impersonal way, as do these 2 huge pillars of our contemporary understanding of physical reality. The WHOLE OF reality? Fascinating philosophical question.. ) .. And exactly LIKE these theories there is a beautiful yet strictly disciplined FLOW of technique and ideas whose a solute MASTERY had taken its practitioners a considerable portion of their LIFETIMES to attain. In the cases both of superb modern jazz such as Shadow Dance and GR and QM within physics, similarly the theorist/ listener simply DOESN'T KNOW IN ADVANCE where these forms of state-of-the-art thinking and interlocking musical expression are TAKING us. Incidentally, Shrimping Business, what's YOUR take on the vexed question of the interpretation of quantum mechanics?
yeah right, dumn ass... this music helps me to understand music, art, and it connects with my feelings....it doesn't help me to understand stephen hawkings, or the universe...but off course you understand pluto and mars better as well as black holes...always these misguided fuckers on this planet who think they are connected to some-thing....jesus...
One of the best concerts I ever seen? I remember whatever year 9897 when they came through Meadowbrook Theatre in Auburn Hills, Michigan one of the best concerts. I’ve seen in my life. Thanks for posting.
Holy cow, what endurance and they look so chill! Everybody was rippin. Pat's solo was so weird and fun. I gotta give props to Dave: to compose those walking bass line parts, and then take those to new places was sooo great.
My favorite kind of fusion tbh. I love the more rock sounding stuff too, because I come from a rock background, but when I think to myself I want to hear some fusion or jazz, im really thinking a lot heavier on the jazz side, since its fairly new to me and i'm very used to the cliches and commonalities found in rock, when its more striaght ahead like this I find it more unpredictable and intresting.
Herbie takes place and it becomes another story with my outmost respect to all of the rest who happen to me in my pantheon of musical gods. But, Herbie creates drama. It just becomes something else . Monster performance by all. Blessings.
fretbuzz59 I once read that he made a decision way back that he would only play one sound on the synth guitar, lest the anticipation of the sound coming out of the guitar would draw attention away from the tune. Pat is probably the greatest jazz musician, composer, improviser, you name it. He defines the term serious musician. Check the Seminario clip on TH-cam. Incredible. 9 over Reggae or whatever it’s name (the first song) was composed by Pat and Jack.
@@eleetse6701 Interesting and logical decision about the guitar synth. Always found it amusing that he made that sound-- which is really pretty cheesy --*his* sound. For decades, Pat has been my favorite musician, for the reasons you cite. Been listening to him for 36+ years.
Parallel Realities is still one of my fave jazz albums of all time...a "supergroup" in every sense of the term...all of them with limitless improvisational skills. Nothing better than the sound of PM's Roland synth guitar. Definitely worth checking out!
Outperforming is subjective to say the least. They are all on the summit of Everest here. If ya held a gun to my head …. it’s Jack. And I’m a bass player. DeJohnette is making it easier let alone possible for the other three to defy gravity. ✌️💚🎵
I saw this quartet in Philadelpha - at the Academy of Music in Center City, aay 1990ish. Damn Good Show! I remember that Mr. Hancock seemed to be trying to make his synthesizer sound like a guitar by adding bends to his notes and Mr. Metheny was trying to make his guitar sound like a keyboard with his delay effects and amplifier settings.
13 minutes in. Holy Shit! Totally delightful musical insanity. Incredible chemistry and groove maintained at stellar intensity. Jack is the master glue.
This is impossibly perfect, in so many ways. Herbie is absolutely SMOKIN’. Thank you all for such a dynamic performance. And thank you Dave Holland for writing it!
impressive, really, line up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! we are lucky generation to listen to so incredible musicians!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! to all young musicians: please, listen to these Masters-Monsters!!!!! you, we all, have to learn a lot from these fantastic persons-musicians!
I've been lucky enough to see Dave Holland live a number of times (in a number of different groups as well as his own ensembles) and I own dozens of albums on which he's featured and the guy is NEVER not killing it. Even when he's just comping or walking. An amazing musician!
What a monster track this is, i like how each musician really adds something to this piece as Jack DeJohnette kicks off the proceedings on the drum kit followed closely by Dave Holland on bass and Herbie Hancock on piano who all come on stage one by one to their respective instruments as the music really starts to build up slowly, until finally at 4:59 Pat Metheny comes on stage to make his presence felt in the only way he knows how as business really picks up with all of them together as one as the song fully comes to life. What an unbelieveable perfomance. It doesn't get any better than these 4 true legends.
I try to never say anything negative about music since everyone has their own opinion, but the drums and bass alone made a really beautiful duet- I loved the way they played together. But then everything after that started to hurt my ears. Jagged notes all over the place just getting louder and noisier. Fusion can be done well, or it can just be note salad. IMHO.
@@davidar7352 One thing that this UNBELIEVABLY BRILLIANT composition, arrangement (Herbie, almost certainly!) and playing thereof ISN'T is ANY KIND of "note salad". In fact, it's a promising contender for "the most amazing piece of music that I've ever heard". Seriously.
4 mostri sacri,un sound pieno di energia,che mi accompagna in un viaggio sublime,ormai da anni.E poi nel 1992 gli ho visti dal vivo a Viareggio.Uno spettacolo meraviglioso
NICE! Thanks for posting this. Pat and Herbie. Didn’t even know they played together at all...been off the grid a bit. I know Pat has played with Dave Holland. But this is my intro to Jack DeJohnette...dude is happening😊
I love that moment of Pat's solo @ 7:55...with that ascending quasi-chromatic sequence, meanwhile Herbie starts comping a descending quasi-chromatic chord sequence @ 8:00, he turns toward Pat, grinning like...whoa, talk about contrary motion...Harmonic Meltdown Eargasm.
The modality of this is so out there . Obviously there is one key center for the first part of the song, but my mind cannot figure out the theory or cohesion of what Pat and Herbie are playing... any thoughts on the modality or chord structure here? Not yer grandpa's be-bop thats for sure...
I saw them in July 1990 Lugo-Ravenna(Italy)and it was unforgettable gig.... see them now on you tube and wooooow,they're still too far ahead. Thanks for the video document.
SafaJah I cannot stop listening to this. I CANNOT!! I came across it just over 2 years ago, when u first uploaded it to me. I have listened to it > 500x. I repeat: I CANNOT STOP LISTENING TO IT. You are distributing a CLASS-A drug, and should be ARRESTED for it! 😎😎😎
Man! That base line painted all the lines on that highway for everyone to ride on! Incredible!
Good God there's nothing like Jack's time sense, out of this world!!
Jack DeJohnette, Dave Holland, Herbie Hancock,Pat Metheny... Nothing more to say except world's top class
Jack’s tunings, dynamics, silky attack make this amongst the most musical drum solos recorded
Absoultely - that;s what grabbed me right off on this cut.
Has anybody played the drums in more of a variety of ways than Jack DeJohnette.
Jack was the continuation of Elvin Jones drumming
trouble is the solo never stopped for the entire piece
An entire piece? Jack could solo for an entire day.
So much talent on one stage, it's incredible.
I love the sound of Jack's drums. The way they are tuned.
Yeah, he tunes his drums to actual notes.
@@DrummerGrrrl and the way he hits them !!!
The sound of his ride cymbal is the sound I hear in my head when I think of a ride cymbal.
yes agreed....but the drums sound like drums.....10 other guys could play that kit and it wouldn't sound like that ......it's all JD
Jack is the greatest drummer ever and can do anything on the drums.
This has be one of the best things on the internet.
When I think of the greatest improvisational musicians, these four are always on that list. And there are so many others, for example ,you have to mention Corea and Cobham, just out of respect. But, then there’s Pat Metheny. He just operates on another level. Not to say he’s better, or more talented, than these other aforementioned greats. But he just goes to places, that most musicians cant even contemplate. When he goes off on one of his playing tangents, the others in the group must be thinking “ I sure hope he comes back to us at some point !” . Kudos to Jack and Dave for keeping the rhythm section perfectly timed around Pat and Herbie’s improvisational swinging. This is just a fantastic version of Shadow Dance. Wow!
"This is just a fantastic version of Shadow Dance. Wow!" ISN'T IT, though?
Herbie's opening chords. Goosebumps.
You ain't kidding. The entire 15 MINUTES of this amazing piece of music gives me goose bumps.
I can't get enough of this song. The way Herbie comes in on the off beat then Pat tearing it up on Guitar. Holland and DeJohnett carrying the tune. Should be a Jazz standard for the next 100 years. I love that they look like they real enjoy playing with each other.
It's a wonderful feeling when you discover a gem like this in all the rubbish on YT. Thanks for uploading!
I am so fortunate to have heard these men playing at Roy Thompson Hall. Fantastic concert.
What year?
As far as I know, they only made one tour in 1990 or 91.
DeJohnette killing it in this one.
ohhh, i remember this time, Metheney and Hancock, so different so freaky so special and then this Switzerland Clockwerk called DeJohnette and Mister Perfect Dave Holland---- it can´t get better and more creative...
When THAT is the opening number, you KNOW you're in for a mind-blowing set...
Jazz, in the moment.
Priceless.
What an amazing ensemble of phenomenal musicians!
This music helps me to better understand Quantum Physics; whereas the "event horizon" is where ever the listener is in space and time; and each musician masterfully applies all attributes of the particular force of nature they represent; Jack is time (continuum), Holland is the "gravitational force" , Pat is a cosmic event , a star (literally & figureably) and Herbie represents the "singularity", the black hole that absorbs even light particles (ideas) into the unknown....
@Shrimping Business Speaking seriously, this group WAS overwhelmingly powerful, as are the 2 distinct branches of post-Newtonian physics: general and special relativity on the one hand, and the interpretational confusion and conflict engendered by quantum mechanics of n the other. Shadow Dance FLOWS, in it's magnificently stark, brilliant and hugely impersonal way, as do these 2 huge pillars of our contemporary understanding of physical reality. The WHOLE OF reality? Fascinating philosophical question.. ) .. And exactly LIKE these theories there is a beautiful yet strictly disciplined FLOW of technique and ideas whose a solute MASTERY had taken its practitioners a considerable portion of their LIFETIMES to attain. In the cases both of superb modern jazz such as Shadow Dance and GR and QM within physics, similarly the theorist/ listener simply DOESN'T KNOW IN ADVANCE where these forms of state-of-the-art thinking and interlocking musical expression are TAKING us.
Incidentally, Shrimping Business, what's YOUR take on the vexed question of the interpretation of quantum mechanics?
Incidentally I hope u managed to sail through ugh the exam confidently and successfully!! 👍
yeah right, dumn ass... this music helps me to understand music, art, and it connects with my feelings....it doesn't help me to understand stephen hawkings, or the universe...but off course you understand pluto and mars better as well as black holes...always these misguided fuckers on this planet who think they are connected to some-thing....jesus...
You took a hit of that quantum pipe before writing this didn't you
Amazing comment. Génial. Thank you from France 👍🙏✌️☮️
Masters of the Universe. Galactic level.
This is one of my favorite live recordings. This quartet was so right. Grateful there is such a beautiful capture of it. ❤️
The whole set is a masterpiece .Even on the fashion aspect.
LOVE YOU LISA!
@@ericdesrey7881 hahaha!
blk. vlcn Awe 💗 thank you! Love you!
Buongiorno
One of the best concerts I ever seen? I remember whatever year 9897 when they came through Meadowbrook Theatre in Auburn Hills, Michigan one of the best concerts. I’ve seen in my life. Thanks for posting.
Had the privilege to see this in Pittsburgh ....one of the best ever ...thanks mostly to Mr. DeJohnette..Thanks for posting !
What is going on. How does someone be this good
Holy cow, what endurance and they look so chill! Everybody was rippin. Pat's solo was so weird and fun. I gotta give props to Dave: to compose those walking bass line parts, and then take those to new places was sooo great.
I like this because it's on the straight ahead Jazz side of fusion, which is something you don't hear very often.
My favorite kind of fusion tbh. I love the more rock sounding stuff too, because I come from a rock background, but when I think to myself I want to hear some fusion or jazz, im really thinking a lot heavier on the jazz side, since its fairly new to me and i'm very used to the cliches and commonalities found in rock, when its more striaght ahead like this I find it more unpredictable and intresting.
This is the most crazy outside solo Metheny ever played, even Herbie was laughing - what a beast lol
Insane solo!
It's amazing does anyone know what kind of pedals he used and what tunning. The tone is funky ASF
@@Sl33zytheclown GR300
@@TheSlayerswe what is that?
@@Sl33zytheclown the guitar synthesizer that pat uses here
Herbie takes place and it becomes another story with my outmost respect to all of the rest who happen to me in my pantheon of musical gods. But, Herbie creates drama. It just becomes something else . Monster performance by all. Blessings.
PAT METHENY IS THE ONLY GUITARIST THAT IS STILL PLAYING AND HAS TAKEN THE ROLAND MIDI GUITAR TO SUCH A INCREDIBLE LEVEL AND MAN WHAT A LEVEL.
And he uses the most basic sound in the thing...the balloon sound.
fretbuzz59 I once read that he made a decision way back that he would only play one sound on the synth guitar, lest the anticipation of the sound coming out of the guitar would draw attention away from the tune. Pat is probably the greatest jazz musician, composer, improviser, you name it. He defines the term serious musician. Check the Seminario clip on TH-cam. Incredible. 9 over Reggae or whatever it’s name (the first song) was composed by Pat and Jack.
@@eleetse6701 Interesting and logical decision about the guitar synth. Always found it amusing that he made that sound-- which is really pretty cheesy --*his* sound. For decades, Pat has been my favorite musician, for the reasons you cite. Been listening to him for 36+ years.
@@fretbuzz59 air going out of a balloon, love it
with that "mjau mjau" Pat destroys the acoustic feeling.But that's him 🤷♂️
Parallel Realities is still one of my fave jazz albums of all time...a "supergroup" in every sense of the term...all of them with limitless improvisational skills. Nothing better than the sound of PM's Roland synth guitar. Definitely worth checking out!
Bass player is outperforming everyone on stage! Great musicians great performance.
I don’t hear anybody outperforming anybody on that stage they are all shredding
@@brendenbaughman662 I'm happy for you.
I don't know. I think they are all equally excellent.
Outperforming is subjective to say the least. They are all on the summit of Everest here.
If ya held a gun to my head …. it’s Jack. And I’m a bass player.
DeJohnette is making it easier let alone possible for the other three to defy gravity.
✌️💚🎵
Top of the tops. The core of jazz.
This is like a totally out of control fire.
To put that out into the universe, WOW!!! THANKS GUYS
du jamais vu, jack dejohnette est sûrement le meilleur batteur du monde, un quartet à déchirer
Herbie is incredible. He has monster hands too.
I saw this quartet in Philadelpha - at the Academy of Music in Center City, aay 1990ish. Damn Good Show! I remember that Mr. Hancock seemed to be trying to make his synthesizer sound like a guitar by adding bends to his notes and Mr. Metheny was trying to make his guitar sound like a keyboard with his delay effects and amplifier settings.
Jack de Johnette ... what an opener ....
Their playing trancends the ordinary logic into super logic which is in another dimension of time and space....beyond words
13 minutes in. Holy Shit! Totally delightful musical insanity. Incredible chemistry and groove maintained at stellar intensity. Jack is the master glue.
This is impossibly perfect, in so many ways. Herbie is absolutely SMOKIN’. Thank you all for such a dynamic performance. And thank you Dave Holland for writing it!
Simply can't get enough of this, always come back to it.
Was, very Lucky to See,these Guys on this Tour in N.Y. Incredible EXPERIENCE.
No words!! Just unreal....
impressive, really, line up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! we are lucky generation to listen to so incredible musicians!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! to all young musicians: please, listen to these Masters-Monsters!!!!! you, we all, have to learn a lot from these fantastic persons-musicians!
You gotta love this opening. Jack is incredible.
Jack Dejonhette! Impressionante, monstro!
Monstruo.
@@danielsuarez1431 más que mountruo, un, ángel... Saludos desde la pat agonía.
Jack and Antonio. Tough choice
These Cats are way to serious, love this Quartet sound 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
The Holland’s bassline is killin’ !!!
I've been lucky enough to see Dave Holland live a number of times (in a number of different groups as well as his own ensembles) and I own dozens of albums on which he's featured and the guy is NEVER not killing it. Even when he's just comping or walking. An amazing musician!
This man's playing and sound are amazing. I've seen him live also.
The opening of this quartet was so cool👍 And, they were so young‼️
I saw this quartet at Roy Thomsom Hall, Toronto, back... I want to say '89 - splendid show.
Du jamais vu en live
Une démonstration de Talents réunis
Hats off to these 4 legendary performers.
Quatre "monuments" du jazz... Prestation de grande qualité !!!
This is why he's fly!!! Remarkable talent. Cool as cool gets!!! 💖🌟✌️
The best of batera
The guitar solo of pat✨, and herbies synths taking it to a different dimension. Amazing
What a monster track this is, i like how each musician really adds something to this piece as Jack DeJohnette kicks off the proceedings on the drum kit followed closely by Dave Holland on bass and Herbie Hancock on piano who all come on stage one by one to their respective instruments as the music really starts to build up slowly, until finally at 4:59 Pat Metheny comes on stage to make his presence felt in the only way he knows how as business really picks up with all of them together as one as the song fully comes to life. What an unbelieveable perfomance. It doesn't get any better than these 4 true legends.
warhawkBeyond2040 true!
John
I try to never say anything negative about music since everyone has their own opinion, but the drums and bass alone made a really beautiful duet- I loved the way they played together. But then everything after that started to hurt my ears. Jagged notes all over the place just getting louder and noisier.
Fusion can be done well, or it can just be note salad. IMHO.
@@davidar7352 One thing that this UNBELIEVABLY BRILLIANT composition, arrangement (Herbie, almost certainly!) and playing thereof ISN'T is ANY KIND of "note salad". In fact, it's a promising contender for "the most amazing piece of music that I've ever heard". Seriously.
I think this performance is one of the best I have ever see....
..Academia on stage... Huge huge, and huge performances by 15 minutes.. Hats off
TOP!!! Great music...Great sound...AMAZING JAZZ TIME....INCREDIBLE MUSICIANS!!!!
Great concert everybody plays great and Jack plays amazing :)
What an opener! That's how you warm up a rhythm section. Dave Holland in beast mode.
YEH.........................................!! What an intro by Jack and Dave. Pat's guitar play is just from another world.
I was at this show where they were recording. Fantastic.
Wow more Awsome!
This is truely and all Star band in the best sense!
All seine Gedanken dazu und Mut Musik 🎶 🎶 🎶 so love wie es ist ja schön........danke für inspiriert wow best wunder in der Bar...
This concert is contained in the "Flower Hour" double CD, an unauthorized bootleg album by Pat Metheny released in 1992.
Once in a lifetime band ! Love it
How can you not love this?
Do you like that guitar tone?
@@JakeMcBain Worst!!!!!
Noobs don’t get the roland sound. Sounds wicked.
@@shawnmarko7131 PM must have been off this night, sounds terrible. Herbie saves the day
The greatest superbands and musicians ever
God, I would have LOVED to see this quartet!
Que se puede decir. Tremendos músicos... Gracias por existir... Saludos
Spick inglish!
@@jonnifjader speak english, You want tell.
This is already a Classic!!!
Favorite jazz drummer
pure magic man....and why i love jazz..
4 mostri sacri,un sound pieno di energia,che mi accompagna in un viaggio sublime,ormai da anni.E poi nel 1992 gli ho visti dal vivo a Viareggio.Uno spettacolo meraviglioso
NICE !!!
Jack must have taken Pat shopping for a shirt before the gig
NO STRIPES!!
it was the second shirt in his life
A bit girlish but a pretty nice one...
Lol
Yeah, all the times I have seen him, he goes with the white and black horizontal stripe shirt. This one is totally cool!
fantastic jazz by fantastic musicians
So good, I need to revisit it every few weeks or so. What talent on stage!
Hypnotic!
Magic!
Hyperuranium!
They are Magicians!
🧙♂️🔥✨
This is a great piece of music history! Thank you so much guys!!!
NICE! Thanks for posting this. Pat and Herbie. Didn’t even know they played together at all...been off the grid a bit. I know Pat has played with Dave Holland. But this is my intro to Jack DeJohnette...dude is happening😊
Dayum!! Go Herbie!
What a quartet! Giants. Amazing performance.
I think I just heard free jazz. Eclectic and pure free jazz. Love it!
Hell yeah this is rockin' ... Jack opens up with so much drive ... Omg...
House band in heaven...
What a beautiful and sensitive song...so intense and at the same time smooth...lovely
This quartet requires each of these master musician to create space in the sound while spontaneously conversating on their primary instrument...primo
Stuart Dailey
"Conversating"?
Conversing, my man. Conversting is not a word.
Thank you
Quatuor des plus grands virtuoses.... Priceless
I love that moment of Pat's solo @ 7:55...with that ascending quasi-chromatic sequence, meanwhile Herbie starts comping a descending quasi-chromatic chord sequence @ 8:00, he turns toward Pat, grinning like...whoa, talk about contrary motion...Harmonic Meltdown Eargasm.
Yes and what a walking bass line..
So true. It always blows my head!!!
"...the bridge resolves the rising chromatic pattern. Nice? WONNNDERFULL!"
;)
The modality of this is so out there . Obviously there is one key center for the first part of the song, but my mind cannot figure out the theory or cohesion of what Pat and Herbie are playing... any thoughts on the modality or chord structure here? Not yer grandpa's be-bop thats for sure...
@Kenneth Liburd look for "best of jazz club". It was a British musical satire show. Brilliant! :D
I saw them in July 1990 Lugo-Ravenna(Italy)and it was unforgettable gig....
see them now on you tube and wooooow,they're still too far ahead.
Thanks for the video document.
The BEST SHOW BEGINNING of a jazz concert EVER!! I saw it live! Just fucking amazing! Fantastic concert.
Gaaash..the Quartet is cooking!!!!!!!!
SafaJah I cannot stop listening to this. I CANNOT!! I came across it just over 2 years ago, when u first uploaded it to me. I have listened to it > 500x. I repeat: I CANNOT STOP LISTENING TO IT. You are distributing a CLASS-A drug, and should be ARRESTED for it! 😎😎😎
I feel that way about so many songs and albums by Herbie Hancock and Pat Metheny. Combining them is just too much to handle!
@@timothycreech8057Touche! 👍😎
Now, this is Jazz at it's best ❣️
Amazing performance!!! Wouuuuu!! 💪💪💪🎼🎶🎵👏👏👏👏👏👏
This is the best tonic for all jazz grooves brilliant cheers.
The Not Smooth Jazz side of PM! Love it! Even included a little shout out to his mentor, Wes Montgomery, with some octave licks.
The Best of the best. Find me talented musicians of this calibre in 2020. Freddie Hubbard and Wayne Shorter to the band!
The Joshua Redman/Brad Mehldau/Christian McBride/Brian Blade quartet is on this level.
Hmm, let me see... how about Herbie Hancock?
@@antonhvidthingstup1911 lol, nailed it. No need for the nostalgia-fest yet. The man's not dead!
@@antonhvidthingstup1911 I saw Herbie last June. He's still bringing it!
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