Team, it has turned out to be a solid decision to move to the podcast format amidst the routine 10 min review which is literally like a memorized script .. this is more direct from the heart
@@asadperwaiz1759whoever does it first has nothing to do, because each team have their own understandings and opinions …. And great move for the team ! 🤝👍
With average life of cars as 1st user being a min of 3 yrs and up to 7 yrs, I would go for a top spec of lower car just to get best of tech and safety features. In time by the time I get to change my current car, these features might be available as standard or in mid specs also
Is there a future for iMT? Thniking about HTK+ IMT and confused between this and Magnite CVT Turbo. Which one do you reccomend for a family of 4? Yearly drive less than 4000 KMs and mostly in city.
Interesting price comparison between the fully loaded Sonet and slightly less loaded Seltos. What’s the difference in mileage for the Sonnet Turbo DCT and the 1.5 IVT Seltos?
@zigwheels i think a car with all the loaded feature is the best option to buy..because we should not feel regret about the features we miss after we bought a car.. What you say @zigwheels..?
Looking at the old Sonet, I would've leaned towards the Seltos. The back of the old Sonet was a bit off, but now it's a no-brainer. At the 16-18 lac price range, I'm definitely going for the top-notch Sonet X Line.
seltos ivt cost 19.30lakh in my city and GT Line sonet which I booked waiting for delivery this month cost 16.80 lakh with more features and the matte paint on the X line is harder to maintain when the car gets abit old
Sonet vs Seltos is a doubt that shouldn't rise honestly. You buy a car based on your needs. If the need is for daily commute, city runs, second car, etc sonet just makes sense. Especially the top end model cos if your driving it daily it better have all the comfort features!
I will go with the Kia Sonet 1.5 U2 CRDi GTX+ diesel automatic for the reason is best in class features and the same engine & gearbox tune as Seltos, Carnes, Venue, Creta, Alcazar its load is in small packs which is favourable in City and highway both so why spend extra on Taxes by buying upper segment car 95% of Seltos features are available in Sonet its wise & smart to go with Sonet which I am doing.
I have a budget of 16lac max,im considering sonet Htx diesel automatic,we are family of four,both kids under 5. Looking at it from perspective of one car to do it all. Highways,weekends,holidays to the beaches where streets are narrow and being small in size its easy to navigate anywhere it goes(as opposed to a bigger car) Also i feel this would do well as my primary vehicle in the city where i use it for 3-4 days a week.
If you are OK with loosing certain gizmos, then I feel fronx seems a better option, and with the latest crash test and in real world fronx seems to do better and at 13lakhs with some discounts, turbo zeta looks a better option for me, and you get that mild hybrid tech too, so that the lag at the bottom end is greatly reduced
Yes do a comparison between a fronx manual vs a venue / sonet imt or a manual, I feel that mild hybrid takes the fronx in front when launched and the sonet might take over due to its better power, but drivability wise the fronx might be better, which is what is what I feel. And fronx is lighter too. So that 100hp is enough to keep the fronx flying.
@@chiraggowda4928exactly as I said a manual vs manual, will be a good idea, as for a auto it's a torque converter vs a dct, I feel a dct in a sonet is laggy or not the same as the dct in a Verna or a seltos
Kia service needs lot of improvement some service centres in Chennai swapping spares between cars I myself faced this issue and Hyundai service is always the best.
Just booked the GT Line sonet for 16.80 lakh automatic and was looking at seltos too but the ivt version is 19.30 lakh round 2 lakh extra which i didn't want to spend on a car which had less features than sonet
I really wish the hatchback segment is resurrected like the VAG group did for sedans a couple of years ago. I seriously couldn’t buy this jacked up hatchback madness. Being a proud Virtus (car) owner, I would like to see proper hatchbacks on the road instead of these so called sub-compact suvs!
One thing I noticed in virtus is my budget is 15 lakhs, but in virtus, the base without reverse camera itself costs 14 lakhs and next highline goes directly to 17lakhs, I think they have to get their pricing right
@@zigwheels Unfortunately it seems lyk you've now accepted and given up on the rudimentary Indian road network...and yeah its' a shame for us as a nation...albeit with idiosyncratic bhakts !
Nice unbiased Info. Between middle seltos vs high end kia sonet. I have purchased Sonet DCT GTx because. City driving , parking space , most of the time only 2 members in car including driver. senior citizen , find those additional features very useful.
So the Sonet has cemented itself as the premium offering the the sub 4m crossover market so kudos to Kia for that. However this car for all its features and flash is not practical for a small family despite the split fold rear seats, let me explain. That boot was bad before the facelift and its slightly worse now especially if you have a small child. A sensible stroller(think a 3 wheeler with a food tray) will take all of that boot with maybe a small soft bag on top, but the parcel shelf will have to go. Additionally that rear seat is too cramped for a child seat and a passenger(and btw isofix is a necessity if you have a child seat because playing seatbelt origami every time you have to load the child and the child seat in is a big problem), so for instance if one parent has to stay with the baby in the back its going to be difficult to straddle the baby bag in the back and tend to the baby if lets say for instance the baby throws up. Point is this car is best if youre a family of two and you dont have to carry large objects. p. s they should have scrapped the 1.2 and used the 1.5l NA instead as that is a better lower end all round engine, but I guess it would pump up the base price and Kia still needs to give the illusion that this car is still in the price range of the segment.
@@brokeguy5607dude, dont look at litres, that measurement doesnt amount to anything when you have to load actual things in the boot. When you load things like strollers(im talking proper 3 or 4 wheel strollers with tables, not those thin 3d printed ones)you will. Have problems getting them in because of the boot height and width.
@@brokeguy5607 the Brezza does a decent job due to its squareish boot that is taller than the competition's so you could put the stroller in vertically.
@@mindfreeze0838 If stroller is a prerequisite for you to buy a Sub-4m Compact SUV, then I suggest you shell some extra money and buy a stroller which can be easily folded 🙏 . Those models barely costs 6k.
Yaar thoda toh sach bol liya karo video mein. The guy is saying her friend got a Seltos HTX+ IVT for 18L On Road. Firstly, there is no HTX+ IVT. It only comes with iMT or DCT. Secondly, even if there was this variant existing, no way you would get that for 18L On road. Even the lowest configuration for HTX+ costs 21+ On Road.
Could someone confirm the facelifted Sonet supports the full-screen Android auto in the 10.25-inch versions(X-line, GT-line), I could see a full-screen Android auto in this video, which is not supported in the pre-facelifted model.
Would choose Sonet only for the Diesel Auto variant... This combination is rare nowadays around this price point.. Mostly the price has increased bcz of gimmicks it carries with itself.. If not a diesel, going for an Elevate makes more sense.
The seat size & cushion on the seats of Kia - Both Seltos & Sonet.. Still remains worst in class!!.. Adding on is the stiffest/ lumpiest ride quality in the class as always.. Thanks to hatchback like limited suspension travel!.. So comfort wise.. The Kias remain the worst in class respectively.. The tough/ long travel suspension of Nexon & XUV300 cant be matched by anyone still 🤷♀️
If you require the space, the Alcazar is a better car. But we’d recommend you wait since the updated Alcazar is expected. You can also consider the new Creta.
It’s not any different. The front seat has been scooped and the seat base angle has been changed, but the difference isn’t that noticeable we’d say. So yeah, still not the most spacious cars around.
Team, it has turned out to be a solid decision to move to the podcast format amidst the routine 10 min review which is literally like a memorized script .. this is more direct from the heart
Thank you so much for the feedback Parikshit. We think this helps us cover finer details too. :)
They are just copying motorinc 😂
@@asadperwaiz1759whoever does it first has nothing to do, because each team have their own understandings and opinions …. And great move for the team ! 🤝👍
With average life of cars as 1st user being a min of 3 yrs and up to 7 yrs, I would go for a top spec of lower car just to get best of tech and safety features. In time by the time I get to change my current car, these features might be available as standard or in mid specs also
Fair enough!
Is there a future for iMT? Thniking about HTK+ IMT and confused between this and Magnite CVT Turbo. Which one do you reccomend for a family of 4? Yearly drive less than 4000 KMs and mostly in city.
Interesting price comparison between the fully loaded Sonet and slightly less loaded Seltos. What’s the difference in mileage for the Sonnet Turbo DCT and the 1.5 IVT Seltos?
@zigwheels i think a car with all the loaded feature is the best option to buy..because we should not feel regret about the features we miss after we bought a car.. What you say @zigwheels..?
Going for a fully loaded Sonet
Looking at the old Sonet, I would've leaned towards the Seltos. The back of the old Sonet was a bit off, but now it's a no-brainer. At the 16-18 lac price range, I'm definitely going for the top-notch Sonet X Line.
Why not pay a tad more and go with Seltos instead ? 🤔
@@FoodKartthe Seltos X Line costs 23.5 Lacs approx (in my city at least)
@brilltwoant27 Okay.. but i still think buying a small car for 18Lakhs its better to upgrade a tad more - Rest both choices are amazing
X line matte colour difficult to maintajn
seltos ivt cost 19.30lakh in my city and GT Line sonet which I booked waiting for delivery this month cost 16.80 lakh with more features and the matte paint on the X line is harder to maintain when the car gets abit old
Good video guys but funny that Left guy says - confusing with choices - then he says he wanted one more variant 😂.
Sonet vs Seltos is a doubt that shouldn't rise honestly. You buy a car based on your needs. If the need is for daily commute, city runs, second car, etc sonet just makes sense. Especially the top end model cos if your driving it daily it better have all the comfort features!
I will go with the Kia Sonet 1.5 U2 CRDi GTX+ diesel automatic for the reason is best in class features and the same engine & gearbox tune as Seltos, Carnes, Venue, Creta, Alcazar its load is in small packs which is favourable in City and highway both so why spend extra on Taxes by buying upper segment car 95% of Seltos features are available in Sonet its wise & smart to go with Sonet which I am doing.
I will definitely go with Kia Sonet Facelift
I have a budget of 16lac max,im considering sonet Htx diesel automatic,we are family of four,both kids under 5.
Looking at it from perspective of one car to do it all.
Highways,weekends,holidays to the beaches where streets are narrow and being small in size its easy to navigate anywhere it goes(as opposed to a bigger car)
Also i feel this would do well as my primary vehicle in the city where i use it for 3-4 days a week.
Creative plus amt nexon petrol or sonet htx diesel automatic or breza zxi automat - choose over any of these
Which one you brought?
@@nayanwagh1306 I have decided to wait for sometime, will extend my budget and opt for a bigger car.
At this price point the Elevate makes way more sense with even less confusion.
Great review guys! Can you please also tell what is the 0 to 100 time for this facelift Sonet?
If you are OK with loosing certain gizmos, then I feel fronx seems a better option, and with the latest crash test and in real world fronx seems to do better and at 13lakhs with some discounts, turbo zeta looks a better option for me, and you get that mild hybrid tech too, so that the lag at the bottom end is greatly reduced
The Fronx is a dark horse. That turbo engine really makes it fly! Should we do a Fronx v Sonet? 👀
@@zigwheels Please do Fronx vs Sonet Sir. Even better if you compare variants with similar price range.
Yes do a comparison between a fronx manual vs a venue / sonet imt or a manual, I feel that mild hybrid takes the fronx in front when launched and the sonet might take over due to its better power, but drivability wise the fronx might be better, which is what is what I feel. And fronx is lighter too. So that 100hp is enough to keep the fronx flying.
@@chiraggowda4928exactly as I said a manual vs manual, will be a good idea, as for a auto it's a torque converter vs a dct, I feel a dct in a sonet is laggy or not the same as the dct in a Verna or a seltos
@@zigwheelsdefinately Fronx vs Sonet it's must video for 1st time car buyers like me!!
Thanks in advance!!
Hope to see the video soon
Kia service needs lot of improvement some service centres in Chennai swapping spares between cars I myself faced this issue and Hyundai service is always the best.
Just booked the GT Line sonet for 16.80 lakh automatic and was looking at seltos too but the ivt version is 19.30 lakh round 2 lakh extra which i didn't want to spend on a car which had less features than sonet
wow u got it in a good deal i booked the gt plus for 17.3l
What is the GNCAP rating for this car?
Which is best imt or mt
I really wish the hatchback segment is resurrected like the VAG group did for sedans a couple of years ago. I seriously couldn’t buy this jacked up hatchback madness. Being a proud Virtus (car) owner, I would like to see proper hatchbacks on the road instead of these so called sub-compact suvs!
That’s unlikely to happen anytime soon. Ground clearance and a high seating position is a need more than a want for a lot of buyers!
One thing I noticed in virtus is my budget is 15 lakhs, but in virtus, the base without reverse camera itself costs 14 lakhs and next highline goes directly to 17lakhs, I think they have to get their pricing right
@@zigwheels Unfortunately it seems lyk you've now accepted and given up on the rudimentary Indian road network...and yeah its' a shame for us as a nation...albeit with idiosyncratic bhakts !
Nice unbiased Info. Between middle seltos vs high end kia sonet. I have purchased Sonet DCT GTx because.
City driving , parking space , most of the time only 2 members in car including driver. senior citizen , find those additional features very useful.
So the Sonet has cemented itself as the premium offering the the sub 4m crossover market so kudos to Kia for that. However this car for all its features and flash is not practical for a small family despite the split fold rear seats, let me explain. That boot was bad before the facelift and its slightly worse now especially if you have a small child. A sensible stroller(think a 3 wheeler with a food tray) will take all of that boot with maybe a small soft bag on top, but the parcel shelf will have to go. Additionally that rear seat is too cramped for a child seat and a passenger(and btw isofix is a necessity if you have a child seat because playing seatbelt origami every time you have to load the child and the child seat in is a big problem), so for instance if one parent has to stay with the baby in the back its going to be difficult to straddle the baby bag in the back and tend to the baby if lets say for instance the baby throws up. Point is this car is best if youre a family of two and you dont have to carry large objects.
p. s they should have scrapped the 1.2 and used the 1.5l NA instead as that is a better lower end all round engine, but I guess it would pump up the base price and Kia still needs to give the illusion that this car is still in the price range of the segment.
Boot was never bad at all. You're totally wrong. An example of a bad boot is that of Xuv300, but Sonet and Nexon has segment leading boot capacity.
@@brokeguy5607dude, dont look at litres, that measurement doesnt amount to anything when you have to load actual things in the boot. When you load things like strollers(im talking proper 3 or 4 wheel strollers with tables, not those thin 3d printed ones)you will. Have problems getting them in because of the boot height and width.
@@mindfreeze0838 Strollers will have problem being loaded in any Sub 4 mtr Compact SUVs. It's not specific to Sonet.
@@brokeguy5607 the Brezza does a decent job due to its squareish boot that is taller than the competition's so you could put the stroller in vertically.
@@mindfreeze0838 If stroller is a prerequisite for you to buy a Sub-4m Compact SUV, then I suggest you shell some extra money and buy a stroller which can be easily folded 🙏 . Those models barely costs 6k.
Yaar thoda toh sach bol liya karo video mein. The guy is saying her friend got a Seltos HTX+ IVT for 18L On Road. Firstly, there is no HTX+ IVT. It only comes with iMT or DCT.
Secondly, even if there was this variant existing, no way you would get that for 18L On road. Even the lowest configuration for HTX+ costs 21+ On Road.
I think he meant HTX IVT
A slip-up on my part, I meant HTX IVT. Which is why I mentioned the missing ventilated seats for example - Tushar
Could someone confirm the facelifted Sonet supports the full-screen Android auto in the 10.25-inch versions(X-line, GT-line), I could see a full-screen Android auto in this video, which is not supported in the pre-facelifted model.
The 10.25 system is wired Android auto whereas 8 in one is wireless
The thumbnail should have been
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Pricey but premium?
Hahah! That surprisingly works too! 😄
I need diesel sonnet new facelift.. 360 deg camera and fully automatic version.. My need... How much will be on road price..
19L on road
Would choose Sonet only for the Diesel Auto variant... This combination is rare nowadays around this price point..
Mostly the price has increased bcz of gimmicks it carries with itself..
If not a diesel, going for an Elevate makes more sense.
Yeah, the torque converter is so much superior compared to the AMT on the diesel Nexon.
We’re curious - why Elevate and not any other 4.3m SUV?
@@zigwheels Because Honda is a Honda is a Honda
Hai..can you please clarify whether the diesel model has dpf or not.I wish to know if adblue equipped models doesnt need dpf at all or what
Yes. AdBlue equipped models have DPF.
Adblue equipped model has auto dpf where add blu is use automatically so no need to worry
The seat size & cushion on the seats of Kia - Both Seltos & Sonet.. Still remains worst in class!!.. Adding on is the stiffest/ lumpiest ride quality in the class as always.. Thanks to hatchback like limited suspension travel!..
So comfort wise.. The Kias remain the worst in class respectively..
The tough/ long travel suspension of Nexon & XUV300 cant be matched by anyone still 🤷♀️
Really good observation. Venue and sonet are really bad in size and ride quality.
What about nexon cng is it come?
The only point is though it’s pricy it’s the only cheapest Diesel automatic in India right now the htx diesel automatic is the best buy..
Nice breakdown of sonet
venue or sonnet ??
Which one should be purchased alcazar or sonet in diesel
If you require the space, the Alcazar is a better car. But we’d recommend you wait since the updated Alcazar is expected. You can also consider the new Creta.
@tushar right now I am missing good old ecosport
What about second row space? Less space still?
It’s not any different. The front seat has been scooped and the seat base angle has been changed, but the difference isn’t that noticeable we’d say. So yeah, still not the most spacious cars around.
Thanks @@zigwheels
Plastic bonnet? The sound when knocked it in the first couple of seconds 😂
Hahaha. No, not plastic 😄
Too many engines and transmission but there's No good option for those who want a loaded petrol with manual transmission .
Wat is safety ratings ??
It hasn’t been tested yet.
GTX + is now 19.6 lacs on road
There is no MANUAL TRANSMISSION which made me change my decision towards fronx
Save fuel?my country only petrol 1.5
No question. I'd personally get the top spec Elevate for that price.
Interesting choice! Why?
Dont think.. alloy wheel design makes any difference.. especially when its a good thing
Lookwise I would blindly choose Venue.... dont know why I felt sonet looks so weird.... round shape everywhere... a KUV100 vibe..
I would go with seltos HTX instead. Fully loaded sonet.
What about safety? 0
Safety tech has been elaborated on in the video and the package is very extensive. No word on crash safety so far.
Worst design, failure for Kia 2024
Kia sonet is Overprice than seltos