NEW ATEM Mini Extreme Portable Kit Tour
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 มิ.ย. 2024
- Today we check out my new portable live stream studio in a box. It was a super quick project but I am super happy how it has turned out! Check out the video for more information on what is in it and how it was made.
Here is a live stream going into more detail on the setup of the rack!
• LIVE Q+A Answering you...
If you would like to support the channel please consider using my Amazon affiliate link! Helps me out a lot! amzn.to/3DsgoRS
Please consider subscribing if you like the content! Would love to have you part of the team!
Here is the H2R Gear Map of the build
h2rgear.com/plan/nrJMBuM6XNhZ...
Here is a list of the equipment used
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...
Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:18 Montage
0:51 Reveal
2:08 5 Goals
3:48 Whats inside
6:32 Audio
9:20 Networking
10:37 What did I learn
13:33 Outro
Music by Fynn’s Arcade
open.spotify.com/artist/1Axzp... - ภาพยนตร์และแอนิเมชัน
I know this video is a year old but as a streaming n00b I found it very informative. I just built a rig which is less than half the budget of that one and it's based on a ATEM mini pro iso. What you've got here would probably be my version 2. Looking forward to seeing the rest of your content.
Very impressive Ryan. Great work. 👍👍👍
Thank you for the detailed description of the equipment and the equipment connection diagram!
I've just started my 3rd "pelican case" rig, but this rack design is next level. whats better the company is only 20 minutes away !! I must rethink it all now. well done.
Haha glad to have got you thinking! Hope it’s not a too expensive thought!
Great video - thanks for sharing! One suggestion: hook and loop (like Velcro) instead of zip ties. It makes it easier for adjustments in the future and saves your hands when you brush against them. I look forward to future videos like this!
I get it in someways, but also typically I am feeding zip ties through little holes to be able to tie something down, also i wouldnt trust cable stress management on zip ties on a portable item.. I personally prefer the zip ties as I know its not going anywhere :)
Great video Ryan. You might consider adding an H2RGear diagram for the next one. It would be great to see all of the signal flows.
Ahh good point! I forgot about that, I have put a link in the description to that. thanks!
Super nice setup.
Really good implementation well done.
Great piece Ryan - very informative indeed! Many thanks
Thanks mate!
Damn! That is impressive. Thanks for the inspiration. Subscribed.
great stuff Ryan!
this is what i need to build... fantastic!
Wow, looks fantastic!!
Thanks Petra!
Awesome Setup Ryan 😀 very similar to what I want to build. So lots of idea’s cheers. Hope you guys are out of lockdown soon. We’re so lucky here in SA 🇦🇺
Thanks Darren! Hope so to! But don’t see us out this year at this rate :(
@@RyanSomerfield Hopefully not 🤞 thank goodness for live streams / Tech to keep us busy 😉 Keep up the awesome work buddy. Look forward to your series with John. One Aussie to another stay safe 😀
@@darrendayman likewise mate… it’s a tough time for all!
Well done I’m Building one now not as complex but suits my needs
😉 I put everything in the ATEM Television Case.
Atem MINI ISO, Mac Mini and 4 Bi-Converters and a litle Netgear router. With the big BlackMagic Monitor. 🙌
Definitely gave you a like and sub… thanks for the video man!
Glad you enjoyed! thanks for subbing!
Just all of this is great
This is amazing!
You're amazing :)
Lovely solution. Thanks for the inspiration. Nice to see people getting creative with the Blackmagic Design gear. I'd be interested in hearing how exactly you use the Ultrastudio Mini 4k for the lower thirds and stuff. Cheers and greetings from Germany …
I think ill have to make something, had a few people ask for similar :)
The xair is a great idea
*mindblown*
Great Job Ryan. Very neat and tidy but there were a couple of things I didn't understand. First was why you used the Ultra Studio for lower thirds when the Extreme can do this on its own. The other was why you used Ras Pis to drive the Stream Decks instead of running Companion on your laptop and just connecting them all to the USB hub you already had installed. A word of caution with the Behringer. Always use the seperate router you have installed in the box rather than the integral one in the Behringer. They don't cope well when there are a few hundred devices in close proximity with the wifi on like you might get at a large conference or in the audience of a school play. Well done
Great questions! Few reasons, the ultra studio is a super handy tool for getting true key and fill into the switcher from anywhere, I use it to get lower third animations in and such through obs which is super awesome, the raspberry pi was the best thing I did, it means that it’s always setup and ready to go regardless of what computer is plugged in to the system. Also for redundancy, If the computer dies the show can still go on. And yes not using the wifi on the behringer, using the wifi router to do that :) thanks for watching!
Great setup! Regarding your streamdeck setup: what is the button string to rescan the usb ports for all the surfaces?
Great video, thanks. I'd like to have seen the rear. Where does the XR16 sit in relation to the front items?
"this is a box...... its a black box".... Cracks me up every time. 😂😂
Nice video! It will be nice to take it step by step in another video! i want to build a case for my streams and im still lookings few details before i start!
Thanks! Interesting idea.. I think the difficult part is everyone would have a different requirement and usecase. Even if I was to do a detailed video i would certainly miss things as there are constantly things that I do on the fly because of unforseen issues etc. So if I was to put in that much effort it would be difficult to be perfect.. This is one big reason I do consulting, not just for the money but it means that I can tailor the design to an individuals actual need... I do videos like these to hopefully inspire people of whats possible rather than instructional which is hard in a one way video.. hope that makes sense!
@@RyanSomerfield from my point of view your contect can be longer because everybody wants to know how the set up you have works and how is connected so they can fit few parts on their set up! You can also make Live shows so people can ask few questions and answer them live and that will give you also content for new Live show or videos! Always Friendly George!
@@KosLiveStudio I think I did do a live stream like that.. LIVE Q+A Answering your questions Using my New Livestream Studio in a box
th-cam.com/users/livetZIy-FGd_yU?feature=share
Sorry if I missed that I’m new subscriber! 😇
Great video and box. How do you set up multiple mix-minus buses for multiple remote quests with just a single computer? Do you use analog aux outputs and patch independent buses? I use USB output with Sound Devices Mixpre audio recorder/mixer/interface for this purpose, but applications like Zoom and Skype support only USB1 and USB2 channels.
Great compact set up! I would love to see a video on the networking side and Companion. I have a similar set up but still have issues sometimes with hard wired internet into the router and IP conflicts.
What kind of issues are you having?
@@RyanSomerfield Some of this I've figure out but still have random issues with connection on instances dropping occasionally. Also, when does the GUI (wired/wireless) matter in opening Companion?
@@mbs4298 hmm.. I have seen this happen sometimes but not known what’s causing it.. mostly when I’ve been playing with it.. not sure on this one sorry! Even today I was trying to set it up on a nuc and just couldn’t get it to connect.. but didn’t put that much time into it..
Great video! There are only a few tutorial videos like this that are so richly filled and explained. In the rear view you describe the two pieces of "Raspberry Pi" you have installed. Do you have any more detailed information on this? Is the "Raspberry Pi" sufficient for the video output or can it also be the ODRUID if it is a new acquisition?
Hey Reinhard, thanks for the kind message! I have been using bytehive playoutbee on the pi and it’s been pretty good! I have a video talking about that in my channel too which goes a bit more in depth into it. For general small clip playback it’s been pretty good! But my go to is still the hyperdeck which I recently purchased 2 of :)
Thanks for showing your great streaming setup! Does the Raspberry Pi and Playout bee work well? And what Pi would you recommend? Thank you!
It does a good job! I haven’t done a lot of in depth testing just yet but for my use case for occasional video playback and easy triggering it’s great! I’m using the pi4 with 8 gigs ram but I believe only 4 is needed
Nice box learned a lot, I wish you had a list of parts and links, that'd be so helpful.
Done :)
Nice setup. I just wish your cut aways showing the installation and kit wasn’t so quick and with “dark” fx as I’d like to have seen more of the installation as you were talking about the various bits of kit, rather than the lock off wide. But very interesting setup.
Love it, I think I will do the same :)
Pretty crazy build. How much did it cost you for the parts?
Hi there, great video and very nice looking setup! Do you mind sharing how did you mount the pieces of gear to the rack? I mean the ones not natively supposed to be rack mounted like the convertors etc. thanks!
3M double sided tape pretty much! ;) and zip ties for some things too. but mostly double sided tape which has held on for me pretty well!
@@RyanSomerfield thanks. Care to share a link for the tape?
I am hesitant to use tape for travelling racks but maybe I should give it a try. I currently use zip ties and I hate it 😃
Hi Ryan, would love to know a bit more about how you use the behringer for mix minus for zoom etc
I do have a video on just that! th-cam.com/video/rpcoL5LIssM/w-d-xo.html hope this helps!
With a year into the project. How does it work for you or did you change some items?
Nice setup!
Where's the XR16 inside your rack case? I can't see it in any of the shots, and it doesn't look like there room for it.
Thanks mate! It’s in the last shot of the montage at the back of the rack, it’s tight but it all fits!
Great rack build. How did you mount the unrackable components like the sdi converters ect.
just some heavy duty double sided tape, Gorilla i think was the brand
@@RyanSomerfield Great, thanks for the info.
Hello, Wow, Congratulations. Cool 👍👏👏👏👏 I am impressed. Excellent 👍
I would do it llke that anytime.
one advice : you can use instead of a mackook (pro or air) a mac mini. It allows to use much less thunderbolt cables and adapters (it has natively 2 thunderbolt, a separate power output, a RJ45 port, classic USB 3 and 2 HDMI out). The only downside is to have a monitor for it. But I find so much easier to have all these ports without using a single adapter. And last but not least : you can rack it !
I did think about doing that, but it meant that i had a computer perminantly stuck inside the rack which i dont use all the time, and the laptop i can use for other things wherever i need. The thunderbolt solution has been amazing as i can just drop in any laptop (with thunderbolt) or desktop and its ready to go depending on the needs of the production
I racked a Mac Mini with 4x Thunderbolt 3 ports along with an 8-port Ethernet switch to control a BMD TV Studio HD switcher. It works well as a built-in BMD SW controller and video server. However, you need to set it up to auto-boot after AC power shut off and remember not to use the Apple-menu Shutdown option. Reason being, software shutdown will force you to use the hardware button on the corner of the case to restart, which is hard to access after it's rack mounted. As with all Macs, the HDMI output imposes HDCP encryption on all video signals, which is incomptible with BMD HDMI inputs, so you need a box to bypass that as well.
Folks, has anyone seen that 13.75" shallow sliding shelf available in North America?
Beau travail... Est-ce que plusieurs Stream Deck en même temps peuvent fonction avec le logiciel Stream Deck ou c'est avec Companion ? Merci...
I am sorry, im not sure how many work with the stream deck software, I have only used Companion
I'm in the middle of planning out a briefcase-sized Atem Mini broadcast kit and now I have the strangest sense of inadequacy 😂
I am going to nick the idea of putting a mixer in front of the mic inputs, but can I ask why you have L and R going to the two channels rather than combining them into stereo? I feel like I'm missing something...
Oh I might have written that wrong in H2R, but I am using stereo xlr to single mini jack trs stereo into mic 1
Hey Ryan, how are you using the different power supplies? Any diagram for the power routing?
Basically the AC power comes in, all of the AC connectors are joined together, then split off to the 12v and 5v power supplies, essentially I either cut off the mini power supplies from the cables and soldered them together before screwing them into the dc power supplies, nothing really special in terms of wiring, just wired together depending on the power requirements
Just curious - do you power down the Raspberry Pis in an elegant way, or just cut the power?
Typically just kill the power..
4:42 - You said you have 2 Raspberry Pi's for running both Companion and Playoutbee. Do you think an 8gb Raspberry Pi 4 would be able to handle both of those tasks?
I am currently using my Raspberry Pi to run "Speedify" to bond mobile, wifi and ethernet networks together for a more reliable stream connection.
Hmm maybe, I haven’t tried.. but I use the pre built ISO’s for both of them so you would have to set it up yourself.. the thing that scares me is both are pretty important so if you crash it you lose control and playback which is scary..
Hey, the 12V power supply you use, could it be used to power the Switcher and 4 x BMPCC 6K cams (with 12v extention cable)?
Would need a bigger one for sure.. but you fall into issues of long cable run voltage loss.. so I would do 12v for the atem and the highest possible voltage for the cameras, (might be 20v but definitely check that first!!) so by the time it reaches the camera there is enough power.. might need to do a psu per camera potentially
@@RyanSomerfield Cool thanks, trying to keep it tidy :)
You should invest in some HDMI right angle thingys.
good call, but this kit is being decomissioned soon, New rack incoming ;) once the 4ME Constellation HD actually ships
Why are u using elgato when the extreme can capture via the usb C port ?
Good question! It gives me options, sometimes I might need to send a remote guest another feed other than program, or I might be using the USB ports for tethering backup and recorder so don’t have 1 free, few different reasons but it is handy!
How are fixed the monitors?
They come with battery plates so I took them off and used them as washers basically through the grilled rack blank panel
How it is portable? Wheels? What is the weight?
It weighed about 36kg. No wheels but as you saw enough to carry around, but not far ;)
The only issue what I personally have with this setup is, that ATEM Mini (correct me if I'm wrong) doesn't support video syncing of video inputs (by frames/ms). Normally it would be not issue as I have professional video cameras various quality but me as a smaller streamer I have to work with different people on different projects who can bring their own cameras, DSLRs or on some events GoPros (of course not as main cameras :D) - and in that situation I have an issue with video synchronization. That's why I chose to go with a bit more expensive way but way more universal to customer needs - NDI & DANTE (transfer video & audio over ethernet). :)
The ATEM mini series does actually scale all inputs which is an awesome feature, so regardless of your framerate or resolutoin (not 4k though) the atem will scale it to the project, obviously keeping it the same is ideal but its nice that it does work! just tested 720 and 1080 and they both work straight away. :)
@@RyanSomerfield But i was talking about desynchronization. All professional video cameras are in sync but when I connect to ATEM like DSLR, GoPro or wireless video transmitter, there is 4-7 frames latency and I can't align it on ATEM (correct me if I'm wrong). :) Of course I always match framerate & resolution on all devices. :)
@@BuriTechVids ahh my apologies , yes you are correct, it will take it as quickly as it arrives. So do you convert your devices from hdmi to NDI to go through tricaster?
@@RyanSomerfield We're using vMix & BirdDog Mini HDMI->NDI converters (Full NDI; or BMD SDI Mini Converters if we need it). I have rack with digital mixer Soundcraft UI24R & 24 port ethernet 10 Gbps switch where I have DANTE converters (for MASTER & MONITOR channels), so I can put my rack anywhere in the venue and I need only single ethernet to get video, audio, intercom & internet to vMix. :) Here is small preview of my workflow & rack if you're interested th-cam.com/video/p52Lie-T1DQ/w-d-xo.html :)
I'm glad that I invested to NDI. At the beginning it was very frustrating. Even as a programmer & networking guy it was kinda unstable (mainly when you have cheaper gear) but now it's very universal. vMix has 4 video outputs (and kinda can do more) and this makes a hugh space for options & creativity. Mainly when your customer wants different sound & video mix in venue and different to Zoom & TH-cam..
I'm pretty sure that all Atem switchers are supposed to support input syncing. The original 4 input Atem Minis had a Texas Instruments TDMS171 receiver chip on input 1 and Analog Devices ADV7610 chips on the other 3 inputs. The main difference between these chips is that the TI chip has a 4 channel retimer that provides sync timing to all 4 inputs. Another unintended difference is that the TI chip has greater input sensitivity and consequently works with longer camera cables on that port. I haven't ripped the lid off an Atem Mini Extreme yet but my experiments have determined that both inputs 1 and 2 are more sensitive than the rest so I expect they both run the TI chips and provide sync timing to the rest. This retimer only provides frame rate syncing to reduce dropped frames and can do nothing to fix lag caused by slow cameras or converters.
How did you connect. theberingher to the atem mini?
The xlr outputs were sent to a hum eliminator then minijack to the mic in on the atem mini
Thank you! Mind if i ask which hum eliminator?@@RyanSomerfield
@@pietrocercone8065 Ahh i missed that in my gear list. I have updated it and it is down the bottom :) not that exact one but something like that
Can you use this for making videos not just live streams ?
Do you mean for recording? Absolutely! I have done it a bunch of times :)
@@RyanSomerfield so this could be used for video podcast, advertising products and stuff of that sort ?
@@wardogdauwdd3020 yep it could do for sure! Basically it’s a good system to bring together a bunch of video sources, audio and graphics. Might do some things slightly differently but yeah
@@RyanSomerfield for audio I say buy a rodecaster pro 2
@@wardogdauwdd3020 I need to do more research on this but I am loving the flexibility of the behringer in terms of auxes and routing etc, rodecaster is good for simple things but very quickly run into limitations. For what I do it doesn’t have enough for me
As I plan on doing live stream for the first time and currently looking for a setup this video is too complicated. Wish this guy could take things slower and explain how each device is connected and show the cabling and explain it a bit more. It's just a waste of time watching it otherwise imho. Thanks for the video anyways