This video Trad Man, shows why you are the BEST!! I admire you so much for your true work ethic. I get so tired of seeing sloppy, slam bam, just get it done work quality and people who take no pride in doing it right. Even if you need to charge a little more, I can't see anyone that wouldn't want to hire someone like you that truly cares about the job there doing and wants to be proud when there finished. I wish there were more tradesmen out there like you. Don't ever give in to just good enough Trad Man and stay safe.
Thanks mate!! My dad always drilled into my head, "if a job is worth doing, it's worth doing right" That stuck with me and I've always tried to do a 100% clean on all jobs. I've seen some will say they are happy to leave solution round the edges because there customers won't see it. I think that's poor work ethics and shows an untrustworthy attitude. They are willing to do the minimum just to get the money fast. For me I just charge accordingly for a proper clean everytime. I know from reading comments on Facebook etc, that a lot of folks argue how quick they are etc, for me that's of no interest. I would rather charge a bit more, work steady and know the job is perfect everytime, and I encourage others that your reputation is worth a heck of a lot. The customers are not interested in how fast there window cleaner is (most don't like someone who is too fast as they feel they don't get time spent on the job they should and may question the qualitly) Instead I think it's better to try and teach people to work at a steady pace, price it properly and do a qualitly job everytime, not missing bits to save time. Thank you very much indeed for your support and taking the time out to watch the videos, it's honestly really appreciated a lot. If you ever want to chat, ping me a message on the Trad-Man Facebook page 👍🏻👍🏻✌🏻
Being a traditional window cleaner for 15 years im thinking of going part time with a wfp 50/50 with work difficult jobs off ladder you will never beat the quality of a traditional clean
Yeah I get you 👍🏻 All depends on the service folks want to offer and also how they've priced it. Some customers don't want an expensive deep clean like this so may prefer just the wfp to keep the costs down. Ladders though are perfectly fine so long as you treat them with respect and know what your doing. Ie placed at a safe angle, and the feet are secure. Also taking your time going up and down, not taking safety for granted. Having a respect for the ladder and how important safety is, I've personally never ever fallen from a ladder or had issues in over a decade. Problems with ladders are near enough always user error, ladders placed on unsure surface, bad angle (too steep or shallow), going up or down too quickly etc. Unless the ladder is in poor repair and breaks, then it's down to the user to use the ladders correctly and safely. I personally know people that swapped to wfp because of falling off a ladder, but with further enquiry I've always found it was user error and carelessness why they fell. Thank you for your imput, it's always truly appreciated!
Totally agree - the point of WFP is to eliminate unsafe ladders. and why put soap on again after pure water - the whole point of pure water is to eliminate soap residue build up and usage
CMW CMW how would you remove paint, cement, silicone or hard water stains only using wfp? Please tell me because if there’s a way then I’m all for it, if not then you have to do what has been demonstrated in the video. Get the worst of the debris off with wfp, then everything else is removed with either bronze wool, razor and specialist cleaning products. Ladders are only unsafe if used incorrectly or taken for granted. With proper use and respect, the ladders are a perfectly safe option so long as you know what your doing. Accidents with ladders come with incorrect use, ie set up at a bad angle or unsafe ground beneath. Wfp is a grand tool, no arguments there, it will not however remove the things stated above. Some window cleaners are happy to only clean what the wfp will remove and that’s fine if they are happy with that and so are the customers. For me I teach people how to perfectly restore/clean windows using every tool at a window cleaners disposal. Thanks for your comment, much appreciated 👍🏻👍🏻😀
Great video 💪👌 To be honest every time we get a new job, I always clean the windows frames etc always by hand (Squeezing) I feel this gets it ready for the next clean using wfp . Its always quicker and gives me great satisfaction lol. Keep up the good work Trad Man 🏴🇮🇪💪
Top job as always Trad Man, I would have just done it all traditional then the next time wfp. Understand why you have done it this was but seems your creating double the work.
😊👍🏻 The waterfed pole is great for taking the worst off and then using the trad tools after to get rid of anything the wfp didn't. Doesn't mean every window gets done again just a few that didn't come up 100% with the wfp. hope that makes sence. You of course can trad a job then wfp later but on this job I needed the wfp out anyways for the velux, so might aswell give the whole job a flick over then touch up any bits left with the trad gear. 👍🏻
Good video, first clean, use a soap injector system and use the garden tap water connected into the water feed pole, using at high flow rate cleanses all the frames and glass and flushes out cobwebs and leaves etc the slight soap rate of injecting brings everything new again instead of using pure water, then inspect and bronze wool and use a spray bottle with pure water and a very small drop of detergent and squeegee off, this method is good for regular cleaning so you don't have to reclense the glass and you can do the pure water pole method 👍😀
Yes that's why I always do the up close visual inspection and use bronze or scraper to remove any paints or silicon sticky tape hard water stains etc , same as you done in your video but use the injector and tap water the first wash , and spray bottle and squeegee after when all is 100 percent cleaned off the glass 👍😀
hola , se que este video es antiguo pero me gusta mucho, quisiera preguntarte como cobras la limpieza de vidrio con poste alimentado y con métodos tradicionales. muchas gracias
Another fine video Peter, very thorough indeed 👍. I see your using the Exceed sleek connection ! Personally find those overpriced chunks of bulky plastic, anything but sleek !
@@TradMan Good luck with it mate but im certain you will come to hate it ! I found it catches on the corners of buildings so easily , leaks as well and constantly needed adjusting! To big & clunky all round and not terrible strong!
Hi Pete , great job as always . A quick question if you don't mind . Brian here from limerick in Ireland , do you have any advice regarding removing stuburn water stains .
Good video Peter,but tbh you've soaped the windows after using WFP which could cause spotting the next time you clean them using the pole.i tend to give 1st cleans a clean twice over .
TRAD - MAN THE WINDOW CLEANER Yes sir!! Not sure if you have seen my channel or not but you have definitely inspired me a lot to do these videos. Trying to talk more in my videos but having a hard time for some reason..more i do the better I’ll get I suppose
Precisely, wfp is a good tool but it doesn't remove everthing and especially windows like that where you have tracks at the sides to clean out, but it's handy to get rid of the worst of the dirt with wfp and then check over the windows with your trad gear, you may not need to trad every window again, only the ones that didn't come up very good with wfp and while your up there you clean the side tracks out with a cloth and clean the sills properly as they are not viewable from the ground when using the wfp
G’day Bro, I suppose if you go to the job with the intention that wfp is only going to do a pre scrub of the frames and glass, then you won’t be disappointed. I think some guys see wfp asthe total elimination of havin* to use a ladder, but when it comes to quality results, especially on first clean, and for peace of mind, trad is definitely better. My view is that wfp is a compliment or partner to my chief way of cleaning which is trad.
Artillery fungus, on maintenance cleans, it would probably be a problem, and is. Trad only there? Even bronze sometimes doesn't take it off, and the only way with a steel blade. Is there a WFP brush that will eliminate it from both the window and the frames?
Hi trad love the vid as normal why dont you use the bronze wool pad on the back of the brush or a water feb pole detergent on the windows only using water on a 1st cleans not really a standard method good wfp cleaners would use a detergent on a 1st clean as standard 9r bronze wool pad the glass or both The bits missed on frame was a really good point and i liked the way you went up and dealt with those but a sil brush might have reduced those since they are better at getting to the edges of frames etc and are normally recommended for 1st cleans a block brush on sash windows is a really bad idea and not correct i only use a sil(radius brush) right brush for the job right. But the results from your method of just wfp and basic bursh where the best anyone could get no one would be able to get them better.
Yeah the problem is windows at around 20ft or higher, always seem clean from the ground. When you go up the ladder you often see small bits missed. No matter what chemical you use or brush (although I've no doubt they would help) not being able to see the window up close can leave bits of debris not seen from ground level. Once you've done the initial clean and got the worst of the dirt out of areas the brush can't get into especially up high, then the wfp would be no problem at all for return maintenance cleans. Thanks for your thoughts buddy. Truly appreciated! 😁👍🏻👍🏻
The tank comes with brackets so all you need to do is bore the holes in the floor and screw it down. Window cleaning warehouse also can fit it for you. Van pulls no problem at all buddy. No issues
I use both methods all the time. Lower windows are almost always dirtier than a window thirty feet off the deck. WFP don't remove hardwater and can take longer to clean a very dirty piece of glass than traditional methods would.
Sorry but when I switched to WFP I DITCHED my ladders. Isn't that the whole point of WFP? To eliminate the need and the risk of ladders? Sorry but what an absolute waste of time that is doing it both ways. All you needed to do was spray your brush with a choice of TFR. Give the window a good soaking, apply the TFR, let it dwell, then give it a good scrub and a better rinse. Job done. I honestly hope you're charging accordingly for all that extra effort! Don't get me wrong, I really respect your worth ethic not questioning that one bit. Just overkill for me personally but each to their own ;)
Yes indeed I get where your coming from. The problem is especially on first cleans that windows at 20ft up and above and this style of window with little areas hard to clean, are impossible to get right no matter if your using chemicals or not, you need to be up there either on a ladder or access it from inside to get it perfect. Depends on the service you want to provide. No waterfed pole and chemicals would of cleaned those windows 100%. I needed a razor to get some of it off plus bronze wool. I've used tfr and others like it, it's great for removing the green from frames etc, but how does it cope with paint spots, concrete and silicone? Can you tell me what wfp is getting that off? Going up ladders pointless? No sorry that's incorrect. If you would be ok leaving stuff like that inside the frames or on the glass that would be up to you. Also I say multiple times to "charge accordingly" so is it a waste of time if your being paid for it? No Thanks for your imput 😁👍🏻
@@TradMan I will admit I commented quite early before you mentioned about charging accordingly so yeah as long as you're getting paid ;) as for the concrete, paint etc...I regard that as a builders clean. Something that I personally don't do and I know many other water fedders don't either and I explain this to the customer. As long as expectations are met.
deltafit see that’s the difference there buddy, I don’t regard myself as just a wfp’r or a trad’r, I use both tools depending on the job. For me cleaning the window means removing everything off it that you can. If a person doesn’t have the tools to take off paint, silicone, hard water stains etc that’s fair enough. But just using the wfp alone on everything is not going to get windows 100% unless it’s just general dirt that’s on the window, ie dust, mud, spiderwebs etc. That’s why in my area I’m the most expensive window cleaner, because I provide a service very few will because they don’t want to put in the effort and time, ie climbing ladders or scrubbing with bronze wool, it’s easier for the majority to just scrub, rinse and go. But if your willing to go that extra mile, you can charge really well and do less jobs in a day for the same if not more money than those that do 20+ houses just using wfp and nothing else. It’s not for everyone but the way I try to teach people is to get the windows as close to perfect as possible and be paid well for that 😃👍🏻👍🏻
Great video tradsta! Do you ever use chems with the first clean with a wfp? I found it loosens and agitates a lot of dirt that it probably wouldn’t have using pure water alone. I can see using the wfp really does speed things up for a first clean. That said your unlikely to get perfect results using wfp alone for a first clean.
Hey buddy!!! How are you doing?? Yeah I've got some chems in the van but there was stuff like paint and silicone, tree sap etc so just thought yeah that'll need a good Unger ninja razor that does lol. Hope your keeping well 😁
TRAD - MAN THE WINDOW CLEANER I’m okay mate! Swings and roundabouts. Hope you are well? Silicon is every window cleaners nightmare. I tend to leave it on the glass if it’s not too bad but I’m lazy 😂.
@@KyeHortonNinjaWindowCleaning glad your keeping ok, I enjoy your videos mate! If your ever at the stoneleigh show let me know, would be cool to meet you. Yeah I'm doing great thanks! Enjoying life buddy 😉
Yeah totally get what you mean. Problem is in the uk most don’t want an internal service only external. Occasionally I convince a few to get the in and out done but it’s not overly common here for residential work. Fortunately this job had cleaning lady’s in while I was doing the windows so they were cleaning the window sills inside as part of there clean so that was good. Usually if there is an issue with leaking windows you can see the droplets inside and as far as I could see there were no issues and customer was delighted so must of been ok 👌😜 How are you doing anyway Heather? You keeping well?
@@TradMan huh that's so odd, most housekeepers here don't clean windows to save on time I guess. Honestly sometimes interior work can be an insurance nightmare. It's been fine, my spring/summer was insanely busy. I had a nightmare construction cleanup that took over a week to do. Ever thing that could go wrong did, I wish I'd documented it. Almost made be consider another trade😔. But things have slowed a bit so I've been working on keeping a positive perspective within this industry. How has it been yourself? Things getting cold over there?
@@heatherthewindowwoman4835 yeah it's very seasonal for you folks over there. Here it's just as busy January through to December as everyone is usually once a month or every two months. Yeah getting cold here. Was very very wet today! I had full water proofs on and still got wet lol, Scottish rain is awesome haha
The wfp is great for removing most of the dirt, like spider webs, debris from trees, mud etc. Using the squeegee after (on windows that need more tougher stains removed) is the final thing to get the windows perfect. Also using the wfp saves a lot of cloths to as it's doing most of the hard work for you.
asboss63 the wfp is great for getting the worst of the spiderwebs and dirt off, leaving only debris that bronze wool or a razor will remove. This job also had velux windows so might as well go over it all with wfp and inspect the windows after with trad gear to hand for any windows that didn’t come up as well as they could of. Some jobs I will just trad first time, but this one was covered in spiderwebs, debris from trees etc so it’s handy to wash away all that stuff, making the trad’n much much easier at the end. 😃👍🏻
Indeed that would help but still wouldn't solve the problem of getting the frames 100% as you can only see certain bits when your up close nose to glass. Thanks 😁👍🏻
This video Trad Man, shows why you are the BEST!! I admire you so much for your true work ethic. I get so tired of seeing sloppy, slam bam, just get it done work quality and people who take no pride in doing it right. Even if you need to charge a little more, I can't see anyone that wouldn't want to hire someone like you that truly cares about the job there doing and wants to be proud when there finished. I wish there were more tradesmen out there like you. Don't ever give in to just good enough Trad Man and stay safe.
Thanks mate!!
My dad always drilled into my head, "if a job is worth doing, it's worth doing right"
That stuck with me and I've always tried to do a 100% clean on all jobs.
I've seen some will say they are happy to leave solution round the edges because there customers won't see it. I think that's poor work ethics and shows an untrustworthy attitude. They are willing to do the minimum just to get the money fast.
For me I just charge accordingly for a proper clean everytime.
I know from reading comments on Facebook etc, that a lot of folks argue how quick they are etc, for me that's of no interest. I would rather charge a bit more, work steady and know the job is perfect everytime, and I encourage others that your reputation is worth a heck of a lot.
The customers are not interested in how fast there window cleaner is (most don't like someone who is too fast as they feel they don't get time spent on the job they should and may question the qualitly)
Instead I think it's better to try and teach people to work at a steady pace, price it properly and do a qualitly job everytime, not missing bits to save time.
Thank you very much indeed for your support and taking the time out to watch the videos, it's honestly really appreciated a lot.
If you ever want to chat, ping me a message on the Trad-Man Facebook page 👍🏻👍🏻✌🏻
Being a traditional window cleaner for 15 years im thinking of going part time with a wfp 50/50 with work difficult jobs off ladder you will never beat the quality of a traditional clean
Yeah I know what you mean. Thanks for your thoughts 😊👍🏻
I agree it may not get every little bit of crud but the whole idea of wfp is not to use ladders even to check your work.
Yeah I get you 👍🏻
All depends on the service folks want to offer and also how they've priced it.
Some customers don't want an expensive deep clean like this so may prefer just the wfp to keep the costs down.
Ladders though are perfectly fine so long as you treat them with respect and know what your doing. Ie placed at a safe angle, and the feet are secure. Also taking your time going up and down, not taking safety for granted.
Having a respect for the ladder and how important safety is, I've personally never ever fallen from a ladder or had issues in over a decade.
Problems with ladders are near enough always user error, ladders placed on unsure surface, bad angle (too steep or shallow), going up or down too quickly etc.
Unless the ladder is in poor repair and breaks, then it's down to the user to use the ladders correctly and safely.
I personally know people that swapped to wfp because of falling off a ladder, but with further enquiry I've always found it was user error and carelessness why they fell.
Thank you for your imput, it's always truly appreciated!
Totally agree - the point of WFP is to eliminate unsafe ladders. and why put soap on again after pure water - the whole point of pure water is to eliminate soap residue build up and usage
CMW CMW how would you remove paint, cement, silicone or hard water stains only using wfp? Please tell me because if there’s a way then I’m all for it, if not then you have to do what has been demonstrated in the video. Get the worst of the debris off with wfp, then everything else is removed with either bronze wool, razor and specialist cleaning products. Ladders are only unsafe if used incorrectly or taken for granted. With proper use and respect, the ladders are a perfectly safe option so long as you know what your doing. Accidents with ladders come with incorrect use, ie set up at a bad angle or unsafe ground beneath.
Wfp is a grand tool, no arguments there, it will not however remove the things stated above. Some window cleaners are happy to only clean what the wfp will remove and that’s fine if they are happy with that and so are the customers. For me I teach people how to perfectly restore/clean windows using every tool at a window cleaners disposal.
Thanks for your comment, much appreciated 👍🏻👍🏻😀
Great video 💪👌 To be honest every time we get a new job, I always clean the windows frames etc always by hand (Squeezing) I feel this gets it ready for the next clean using wfp . Its always quicker and gives me great satisfaction lol. Keep up the good work Trad Man 🏴🇮🇪💪
Thanks buddy! Yeah it does make the following cleans much easier!
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Top job as always Trad Man, I would have just done it all traditional then the next time wfp. Understand why you have done it this was but seems your creating double the work.
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The waterfed pole is great for taking the worst off and then using the trad tools after to get rid of anything the wfp didn't. Doesn't mean every window gets done again just a few that didn't come up 100% with the wfp. hope that makes sence.
You of course can trad a job then wfp later but on this job I needed the wfp out anyways for the velux, so might aswell give the whole job a flick over then touch up any bits left with the trad gear. 👍🏻
Awesome video again pal!
Always best to be confident in both methods because there will come a time we will all have that job that needs both methods
Indeed! Thanks for watching!
I sometimes use a mop on a pole drenched in ammonia. Afterwords I do wfp on the windows. That have been very useful on extra dirty windows up high.
Awesome! Thanks for sharing 😁👍🏻👍🏻
Great method, I always use the pole and a good cleaner first
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Good video, first clean, use a soap injector system and use the garden tap water connected into the water feed pole, using at high flow rate cleanses all the frames and glass and flushes out cobwebs and leaves etc the slight soap rate of injecting brings everything new again instead of using pure water, then inspect and bronze wool and use a spray bottle with pure water and a very small drop of detergent and squeegee off, this method is good for regular cleaning so you don't have to reclense the glass and you can do the pure water pole method 👍😀
Sounds good, although what about removing paint, cement, silicone spots?
Yes that's why I always do the up close visual inspection and use bronze or scraper to remove any paints or silicon sticky tape hard water stains etc , same as you done in your video but use the injector and tap water the first wash , and spray bottle and squeegee after when all is 100 percent cleaned off the glass 👍😀
@@FlashTechEngineering 😁👍🏻👍🏻✌🏻
Great video Pete. I keep a mini bronze wool pad holder on my pole all the time to give those stubborn marks a scrub 👍
Cheers brotha! I love bronze wool. Couldn't live without it now lol
Thanks Pete!
Great Video!
Keep them coming
I'll do my best buddy!
Where needed use what ever works as they are all tools at the end of the day 😊🌈
Very Nice Video
hola , se que este video es antiguo pero me gusta mucho, quisiera preguntarte como cobras la limpieza de vidrio con poste alimentado y con métodos tradicionales. muchas gracias
Another fine video Peter, very thorough indeed 👍. I see your using the Exceed sleek connection ! Personally find those overpriced chunks of bulky plastic, anything but sleek !
Thanks buddy!
Yeah using the slick at the moment, seems to be working ok so far, I'll do a review on it after its had a proper bashing lol
@@TradMan Good luck with it mate but im certain you will come to hate it ! I found it catches on the corners of buildings so easily , leaks as well and constantly needed adjusting! To big & clunky all round and not terrible strong!
@@JasonDunlop247 Yeah I did notice a bit of leaking! I'll keep an eye on it. Thank you buddy!!
Hi Pete , great job as always . A quick question if you don't mind .
Brian here from limerick in Ireland , do you have any advice regarding removing stuburn water stains .
Yup, use unger rub out and an abrasive pad. I use walnut pads
Cheers pete
Good video Peter,but tbh you've soaped the windows after using WFP which could cause spotting the next time you clean them using the pole.i tend to give 1st cleans a clean twice over .
Indeed the first return clean would need an extra rinse if you intend to use wfp from then on. 👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you for your imput, much appreciated 😁
Every tool has its job! Nice video
Mike The Glass Guy absolutely buddy! All depends on the service you want to offer and what the customer requires 👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks for watching
TRAD - MAN THE WINDOW CLEANER Yes sir!! Not sure if you have seen my channel or not but you have definitely inspired me a lot to do these videos. Trying to talk more in my videos but having a hard time for some reason..more i do the better I’ll get I suppose
Mike The Glass Guy yeah it’s not easy, keep going though, it’s good to practice your speaking skills 👍🏻👍🏻
Another great video my friend 👍
Thanks for tuning in buddy! Hope your having a nice day 😁👍🏻
What ladder and size do you use mate? I'm looking for a good quality set!
My two section is 27 rung A frame, think it's 6.5m.
The other I have is a 9 rung single a frame
Daft question. If you were going to go up with the ladders, what was the point of using WFP? Just to get the worst off to make Trad work easier?
Precisely, wfp is a good tool but it doesn't remove everthing and especially windows like that where you have tracks at the sides to clean out, but it's handy to get rid of the worst of the dirt with wfp and then check over the windows with your trad gear, you may not need to trad every window again, only the ones that didn't come up very good with wfp and while your up there you clean the side tracks out with a cloth and clean the sills properly as they are not viewable from the ground when using the wfp
G’day Bro, I suppose if you go to the job with the intention that wfp is only going to do a pre scrub of the frames and glass, then you won’t be disappointed. I think some guys see wfp asthe total elimination of havin* to use a ladder, but when it comes to quality results, especially on first clean, and for peace of mind, trad is definitely better.
My view is that wfp is a compliment or partner to my chief way of cleaning which is trad.
Travis SFWC well said!
What sleeve you using m8? U ditched the blue one?
I use an Unger ninja washer 👍🏻
Artillery fungus, on maintenance cleans, it would probably be a problem, and is. Trad only there? Even bronze sometimes doesn't take it off, and the only way with a steel blade. Is there a WFP brush that will eliminate it from both the window and the frames?
Yeah if it persisted to be a problem, then trad'n it would be the answer. We will see how the maintenance clean goes next time 😁👍🏻
Hi trad love the vid as normal why dont you use the bronze wool pad on the back of the brush or a water feb pole detergent on the windows only using water on a 1st cleans not really a standard method good wfp cleaners would use a detergent on a 1st clean as standard 9r bronze wool pad the glass or both
The bits missed on frame was a really good point and i liked the way you went up and dealt with those but a sil brush might have reduced those since they are better at getting to the edges of frames etc and are normally recommended for 1st cleans a block brush on sash windows is a really bad idea and not correct i only use a sil(radius brush) right brush for the job right.
But the results from your method of just wfp and basic bursh where the best anyone could get no one would be able to get them better.
Yeah the problem is windows at around 20ft or higher, always seem clean from the ground.
When you go up the ladder you often see small bits missed.
No matter what chemical you use or brush (although I've no doubt they would help) not being able to see the window up close can leave bits of debris not seen from ground level.
Once you've done the initial clean and got the worst of the dirt out of areas the brush can't get into especially up high, then the wfp would be no problem at all for return maintenance cleans.
Thanks for your thoughts buddy. Truly appreciated! 😁👍🏻👍🏻
What size water tank have you got mate?
225 litres
Does your van pull ok with that size of tank? Did you fit your tank yourself?
The tank comes with brackets so all you need to do is bore the holes in the floor and screw it down. Window cleaning warehouse also can fit it for you.
Van pulls no problem at all buddy. No issues
I use both methods all the time. Lower windows are almost always dirtier than a window thirty feet off the deck. WFP don't remove hardwater and can take longer to clean a very dirty piece of glass than traditional methods would.
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Sorry but when I switched to WFP I DITCHED my ladders. Isn't that the whole point of WFP? To eliminate the need and the risk of ladders? Sorry but what an absolute waste of time that is doing it both ways. All you needed to do was spray your brush with a choice of TFR. Give the window a good soaking, apply the TFR, let it dwell, then give it a good scrub and a better rinse. Job done. I honestly hope you're charging accordingly for all that extra effort! Don't get me wrong, I really respect your worth ethic not questioning that one bit. Just overkill for me personally but each to their own ;)
Yes indeed I get where your coming from.
The problem is especially on first cleans that windows at 20ft up and above and this style of window with little areas hard to clean, are impossible to get right no matter if your using chemicals or not, you need to be up there either on a ladder or access it from inside to get it perfect.
Depends on the service you want to provide.
No waterfed pole and chemicals would of cleaned those windows 100%. I needed a razor to get some of it off plus bronze wool.
I've used tfr and others like it, it's great for removing the green from frames etc, but how does it cope with paint spots, concrete and silicone? Can you tell me what wfp is getting that off?
Going up ladders pointless? No sorry that's incorrect. If you would be ok leaving stuff like that inside the frames or on the glass that would be up to you.
Also I say multiple times to "charge accordingly" so is it a waste of time if your being paid for it? No
Thanks for your imput
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@@TradMan I will admit I commented quite early before you mentioned about charging accordingly so yeah as long as you're getting paid ;) as for the concrete, paint etc...I regard that as a builders clean. Something that I personally don't do and I know many other water fedders don't either and I explain this to the customer. As long as expectations are met.
@@deltafit 😁👍🏻👍🏻✌🏻
deltafit see that’s the difference there buddy, I don’t regard myself as just a wfp’r or a trad’r, I use both tools depending on the job. For me cleaning the window means removing everything off it that you can. If a person doesn’t have the tools to take off paint, silicone, hard water stains etc that’s fair enough.
But just using the wfp alone on everything is not going to get windows 100% unless it’s just general dirt that’s on the window, ie dust, mud, spiderwebs etc.
That’s why in my area I’m the most expensive window cleaner, because I provide a service very few will because they don’t want to put in the effort and time, ie climbing ladders or scrubbing with bronze wool, it’s easier for the majority to just scrub, rinse and go.
But if your willing to go that extra mile, you can charge really well and do less jobs in a day for the same if not more money than those that do 20+ houses just using wfp and nothing else.
It’s not for everyone but the way I try to teach people is to get the windows as close to perfect as possible and be paid well for that 😃👍🏻👍🏻
Great video tradsta!
Do you ever use chems with the first clean with a wfp? I found it loosens and agitates a lot of dirt that it probably wouldn’t have using pure water alone.
I can see using the wfp really does speed things up for a first clean. That said your unlikely to get perfect results using wfp alone for a first clean.
Hey buddy!!!
How are you doing??
Yeah I've got some chems in the van but there was stuff like paint and silicone, tree sap etc so just thought yeah that'll need a good Unger ninja razor that does lol.
Hope your keeping well 😁
TRAD - MAN THE WINDOW CLEANER I’m okay mate! Swings and roundabouts.
Hope you are well? Silicon is every window cleaners nightmare. I tend to leave it on the glass if it’s not too bad but I’m lazy 😂.
@@KyeHortonNinjaWindowCleaning glad your keeping ok, I enjoy your videos mate!
If your ever at the stoneleigh show let me know, would be cool to meet you.
Yeah I'm doing great thanks! Enjoying life buddy 😉
Don’t you check your work from the interior once you’v worked inside? I’d be paranoid thinking water leaked inside due to a bad seal or something.
Yeah totally get what you mean. Problem is in the uk most don’t want an internal service only external. Occasionally I convince a few to get the in and out done but it’s not overly common here for residential work.
Fortunately this job had cleaning lady’s in while I was doing the windows so they were cleaning the window sills inside as part of there clean so that was good.
Usually if there is an issue with leaking windows you can see the droplets inside and as far as I could see there were no issues and customer was delighted so must of been ok 👌😜
How are you doing anyway Heather? You keeping well?
@@TradMan huh that's so odd, most housekeepers here don't clean windows to save on time I guess. Honestly sometimes interior work can be an insurance nightmare.
It's been fine, my spring/summer was insanely busy. I had a nightmare construction cleanup that took over a week to do. Ever thing that could go wrong did, I wish I'd documented it.
Almost made be consider another trade😔.
But things have slowed a bit so I've been working on keeping a positive perspective within this industry.
How has it been yourself? Things getting cold over there?
@@heatherthewindowwoman4835 yeah it's very seasonal for you folks over there.
Here it's just as busy January through to December as everyone is usually once a month or every two months.
Yeah getting cold here. Was very very wet today! I had full water proofs on and still got wet lol, Scottish rain is awesome haha
Ñwhy not just use trad method and you know it's done right
The wfp is great for removing most of the dirt, like spider webs, debris from trees, mud etc.
Using the squeegee after (on windows that need more tougher stains removed) is the final thing to get the windows perfect. Also using the wfp saves a lot of cloths to as it's doing most of the hard work for you.
Just trad it first then follow up cleans can be wfp..👍
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asboss63 the wfp is great for getting the worst of the spiderwebs and dirt off, leaving only debris that bronze wool or a razor will remove. This job also had velux windows so might as well go over it all with wfp and inspect the windows after with trad gear to hand for any windows that didn’t come up as well as they could of.
Some jobs I will just trad first time, but this one was covered in spiderwebs, debris from trees etc so it’s handy to wash away all that stuff, making the trad’n much much easier at the end. 😃👍🏻
Hot water system
Indeed that would help but still wouldn't solve the problem of getting the frames 100% as you can only see certain bits when your up close nose to glass.
Thanks 😁👍🏻