I took my passenger seat off and back seat.. and had a foldable mattress made at a upholstery shop so I can lay it flat on the passenger side towards the back seat. I’m 6”5 and I have plenty room that way. And When i don’t use it, I fold it in half and but it behind my seat. I hated sleeping side ways on the backseat so decided to do that.
@@TowPiglet Does the DOT not enforce sleeper birth laws? I see people on YT installing DOT compliant kits in their pickups but most have a setup like this and never mention the DOT....???
if you "swiss cheese" your "box springs" board you can put money in your pocket. cut with like 1 inch - 1.5 inch hole saw, you can probably cut down its weight by 1/3 or more. with no affect on function.
I have learned so much from your channel. I am 21, and I am looking to start my own hot Shot business. I am ready to be my own boss by owning-operating. Thanks man!
Hello I read your comment that was posted 1 year ago, i would like to know if possible did you start your own hotshot business? And if so, how is it going?
Did a rear seat delete on my Toyota Tacoma recently. Came out awesome for hunting and outdoors....but a bit small for myself and the old lady. My bucket list is to travel to Alaska in the near future. Been looking at an overland trailer or a Dodge Mega Cab to do a rear seat delete as well. Like your mattress ideal Love your video. "Oh, by the way... This is the same comment I posted to another TH-camr. Thanks!
Have you thought about putting the board on some sort of a hinge ? Somehow attach to back wall to eliminate rear legs for more storage options and you can just flip up for easy access. To your storage area. Just a thought ..
I just started for a company myself. Long hauls. And this gave me the perfect idea. Thank you. Also if you or anyone reads this who is/was a driver..aby suggestions on what to take with me? Something you needed but didn't have at the time...
New sub...getting off a big rig to go hotshot. Heard great things about it... will be watching all your content... safe travels! Looks like i need to go into my woodshop for a "bedframe"
Really liked this video. Short and to the point. Would love it if you expanded even more on things like this. Width of your mattress, height of the legs, thickness of the foam mattress and so on. Even though it will be different for most trucks it would probably be the same for other Rams.
SUPER DOPE. SIMPLE IS BEST. COMFORT IS WHAT MATTERS. ALL YOU NEED IS TO SLEEP GREAT. YOU GOT SHIT TO DO. NO TIME TO LOUNGE IN A CAB OVER. GET YOUR GRIND ON. MAKE THST DOUGH AND CHILL AT HOME WHEN THE WORK IS DONE. FYI IF YOU EVER GET YOUR OWN TRUCK GET A MEGA CAB. YEAH!!!
Yup, that’s my home town, I was born in Casa Grande, I think he is in the parking lot of the pilot in Eloy and starts filming the road at the I-8/I-10 exchange near casa grande and ends in central Phoenix near the fair grounds
Like your vids man, just a comment on idling for ac and heating, they have there after market portable ac units and heaters too, why not try those, they have a built in battery lasting about 6 hours from the videos I seen
i dont do Hotshot but if it was me I'll be trying to figure out a way to install black out curtains to have a little bit of privacy and keep light out🤣
So just a little update. After watching this video I went from the backseat of my truck which was very uncomfortable and bought an inflatable rear truck seat mattress. I bought it online 45 bucks 40 bucks I don't know, it came with a 30 day return policy and on the 30th day I got a hole in it and I couldn't find it anywhere and it would not stay inflated. Which really disappointed me because I was sleeping pretty good. anyway so I thought about it for a while and I actually came up with the idea of a extra firm baby crib mattress. They make different sizes I think the one I bought is 52 in Long by 28 in wide, there's a couple sizes that's the larger one there's a smaller one for like a toddler bed. anyway so I bought a Sealy extra firm crib mattress it fits right in the back of my truck it gives me plenty of room when I move the driver seat up as go piglet described. I sleep at the same angle he showed in the video it's a little short set the width is fine I bought a couple $3 pillows and where it's short I just put him down in there and I have no problems.. I actually after sleeping on my back seat itself for 3 days but this last night at 10 pm and a local Walmart. The good news is I slept like a baby it works very well it was $59, I also bought the crib sheet to go over it and everything works just fine. So just a little update to let you know I'm trying different things as tow piglet suggested and I think I ought to be able to stick with this for a while. Feeling refreshed and driving to get loaded. Thank you tow piglet. Hope all you guys out there have a great day. KEEP IT BETWEEN THE DITCHES BOYS. Also voice to text as I drive I hope you guys get the message
Does this count as a “sleeper” to the DOT? Because you have to either go “off duty” and leave the truck or go “sleeper berth” to stay in the truck as a for hire driver. But I think the DOT has certain mandates as to what is a legal “sleeper berth”. I’m a Class A 18 wheeler driver who’s considering Hot Shot and I’m trying to gather as much info as possible. Thanks.
steve koelliker if you don’t have a dot legal sleeper. You just go off duty and sleep in truck. Nothing says you have to sleep. Just that you take 10hrs. But you can’t claim sleeper without a legal sleeper
So looking into legal sleeper cab setups. And what I can find says DOt regulations state dimensions have to like 75” long, 2’ wide, and 2’ high from top of mattress. Also says something song the lines that off duty time can’t be spent in the truck. So that keeps you from using off duty time to rest in the truck. Hoping you have some insight
Your second section is wrong. It says the opposite Any time spent on or around a non moving truck is off duty as long as you have no obligations to the company
0:08 sounds like a garbage disposal. But how can a garbage disposal be disposing itself? Only Ram knows. I love your video of the axle breaking and catching fire on the Ram. Great example of how the engine being great is completely unhelpful. Stellantis is a shitstain more than it's an automobile manufacturer.
Can you legally sleep in a set up similar to this? I’m looking to get into hot shot trucking but I keep seeing every where that your sleeper berth has to be a minimum of 74 inches wide and have some sort of restraint.
This is the argument of time. They make kits to cut out your rear doors and counter sink trim. Removes everything in the door so you get another 7" on each end of the bed. But nonetheless the measurement has to be from the bed to the roof, no pickup has passed the bed to roof distance DOT requires. REGARDLESS of what you may see or read on any social media. More or less DOT has gotten so fed up with citing and chasing down people to give warnings that they are starting to ignore hotshots after 10yrs of them breaking the laws because their too stretched thin. So then in return, Hotshots seem to think it somehow became legal.
Best choice you can do is have 1 of many companies now taking and converting your crew into a sleeper. 10-15,000 or more, with substantial cut/body weld and rework. But then at least you pass the BASIC measurements for birth. But you still wont ever have the "CLEAR PATH to drivers seat"
This is awesome. I really want to get into this, but not sure if it make sence financially? Considering the insane wear and tear, is it still profitable with the diesel prices?
I'm getting ready to do hotshotting. What are the dimensions of the plywood for your sleeper.. Did you have to cut your mattress or it fits exact.. Thanks
Hey I thought this video was helpful. I have a hotshot and I bought an car airbed for my driver to sleep on. He says it’s comfortable but exploring other options to make it a little better back there. I’ve been hearing people talking about this platform bed which is what I see you developed. Also what’s your strategy for the winter month so the truck isn’t running idle all the time? Do you have a generator and space heater or are you running that truck 24/7?
@@TowPiglet Thank you for the fast reply! Appreciate your time and work you put into the vids to help. I will look into Enterprise, I have always been a GM guy. I think RAM is the better truck right now. (sorry Dad, God rest your soul!) I guess I will do some more research....Ford was last choice up till now, but your opinion means a lot. So you do not think a Duelly long bed will do any better?
The trucks that enterprise has are dually long bed F350. I asked if they could could get a srw and they weren’t sure they could. So if I were to go dually/enterprise route I’d have to down rate my trailer a little more and I’d have less weight available for freight but that’s a small price to pay in the grand scheme of life because I still owe about 23k on my truck and it has 423k miles on it right now.
Tow Piglet can you lease a pickup with any enterprise or is it one in general that does the leasing? Also will it have a king pin or something to tow with installed
@@TowPiglet Nice job on your super long day and 2 minutes to spare. Awesome!! Question for you. You mentioned at a previously about a enterprise in Texas that does leasing and a waiting list and 3,500 down. What was the cost per molies or months? How does that work and who do you contact for that. Do you think that is still a way to go? Thank you And...stay healthy my friend!!!
Love it!! Simple I hit the button... thinking about getting into this but seem people is flooding the market which will drive prices down or am I wrong? Is there money to be made at this? I am not doing it I was going to put a retired friend in it...
The only bad thing i can tell is if you want to sit up on the bead your head would hit the roof, The plus side you have extra storage room ,, Just curious why don't you remove the passenger seat as well
Done it and it doesn't really open up that much space. You lose a place to put a laptop, a cooler for your food, extra water bottles... when you take out the seat. Reaching onto the floor is a real stretch and things roll around. You could rig u some storage solution but threre's no room to open drawers.
The base its just flat surface . If I were u I would get with a gaps like usual bed looks like underneath of mattress. Because that let's your mattress breath
Hats off to you for that sleeping setup. I’m a 6’4” military guy, did almost 4 yrs as a geographic bachelor. Sleeping in my RAM was NOT comfortable.
I took my passenger seat off and back seat.. and had a foldable mattress made at a upholstery shop so I can lay it flat on the passenger side towards the back seat. I’m 6”5 and I have plenty room that way. And When i don’t use it, I fold it in half and but it behind my seat. I hated sleeping side ways on the backseat so decided to do that.
Most do it that way and it's also DOT compliant my only thing is I do like having a front seat
I did this way to two of my friends you need to watch for the height of the bed to reach the specification
@@TowPiglet if you remove the doors inside cover you reach more length
@@TowPiglet Does the DOT not enforce sleeper birth laws? I see people on YT installing DOT compliant kits in their pickups but most have a setup like this and never mention the DOT....???
if you "swiss cheese" your "box springs" board you can put money in your pocket. cut with like 1 inch - 1.5 inch hole saw, you can probably cut down its weight by 1/3 or more. with no affect on function.
I have learned so much from your channel. I am 21, and I am looking to start my own hot Shot business. I am ready to be my own boss by owning-operating.
Thanks man!
Hello I read your comment that was posted 1 year ago, i would like to know if possible did you start your own hotshot business? And if so, how is it going?
how did it work out my man?
Really like these videos, I'm going to get into this in a few months and I have really learned a lot from your channel!
Email me if you have questions
Perfect setup brother, great simple video! 👍💯😎
Did a rear seat delete on my Toyota Tacoma recently. Came out awesome for hunting and outdoors....but a bit small for myself and the old lady. My bucket list is to travel to Alaska in the near future. Been looking at an overland trailer or a Dodge Mega Cab to do a rear seat delete as well. Like your mattress ideal Love your video. "Oh, by the way... This is the same comment I posted to another TH-camr. Thanks!
Ugh, I’m gonna do this because I’m sleeping in my backseat 🤦♂️😂
Love the set up i did a frame with ply wood on hinges for the storage underneath
Have you thought about putting the board on some sort of a hinge ? Somehow attach to back wall to eliminate rear legs for more storage options and you can just flip up for easy access. To your storage area.
Just a thought ..
I just started for a company myself. Long hauls. And this gave me the perfect idea. Thank you. Also if you or anyone reads this who is/was a driver..aby suggestions on what to take with me? Something you needed but didn't have at the time...
New sub...getting off a big rig to go hotshot. Heard great things about it... will be watching all your content... safe travels! Looks like i need to go into my woodshop for a "bedframe"
Tony Gallegos did you finally start hot shot
It’s almost perfect you need to just the 3” memory cool foam on top and you’ll sleep an extra hour, IKEA has everything.
Does that sleeper carry the 300 pound lot lizard 🦎?
Arturo Pesqueira the trucker
You probably got aids just talking about them...
Lol that’s Tucson-Phoenix route on I -10. I drive that route quite often
Every day here
I was thinking when I get a truck I would do exactly this. It just made more sense than the lost space to the back seats.
Really liked this video. Short and to the point. Would love it if you expanded even more on things like this. Width of your mattress, height of the legs, thickness of the foam mattress and so on. Even though it will be different for most trucks it would probably be the same for other Rams.
The storage underneath is convenient and it looks like the top of mattress is about even with rear door arm rests to provide another few inches.
Just started watching your videos today (12/19/18) and I'm really enjoying the heck out of them. Keep up the good work👍
Hey bro don't feel bad I sleep in the back of a 3500 ram for 7 o 8 months until I did what you did and so far is good !!!!
Did you keep the A/C on 24/7?
@@Trucker4Lifeecurious
Just realized your near Plano TX. Followed ur videos for some time. Great info.
Great setup! Personally I'd do that but also remove the passenger set for a small fridge and a microwave
Love it! I also have a hard time paying over $100 for hotel just to sleep.
SUPER DOPE. SIMPLE IS BEST. COMFORT IS WHAT MATTERS. ALL YOU NEED IS TO SLEEP GREAT. YOU GOT SHIT TO DO. NO TIME TO LOUNGE IN A CAB OVER. GET YOUR GRIND ON. MAKE THST DOUGH AND CHILL AT HOME WHEN THE WORK IS DONE. FYI IF YOU EVER GET YOUR OWN TRUCK GET A MEGA CAB. YEAH!!!
Good idea! Kudos!!!
Most Awesome set up!! Thx
Any issues with the truck being deleted?
Yup, that’s my home town, I was born in Casa Grande, I think he is in the parking lot of the pilot in Eloy and starts filming the road at the I-8/I-10 exchange near casa grande and ends in central Phoenix near the fair grounds
Like your vids man, just a comment on idling for ac and heating, they have there after market portable ac units and heaters too, why not try those, they have a built in battery lasting about 6 hours from the videos I seen
Do you have a link?
Please share a link for the portable AC
i dont do Hotshot but if it was me I'll be trying to figure out a way to install black out curtains to have a little bit of privacy and keep light out🤣
So just a little update. After watching this video I went from the backseat of my truck which was very uncomfortable and bought an inflatable rear truck seat mattress. I bought it online 45 bucks 40 bucks I don't know, it came with a 30 day return policy and on the 30th day I got a hole in it and I couldn't find it anywhere and it would not stay inflated. Which really disappointed me because I was sleeping pretty good. anyway so I thought about it for a while and I actually came up with the idea of a extra firm baby crib mattress. They make different sizes I think the one I bought is 52 in Long by 28 in wide, there's a couple sizes that's the larger one there's a smaller one for like a toddler bed. anyway so I bought a Sealy extra firm crib mattress it fits right in the back of my truck it gives me plenty of room when I move the driver seat up as go piglet described. I sleep at the same angle he showed in the video it's a little short set the width is fine I bought a couple $3 pillows and where it's short I just put him down in there and I have no problems.. I actually after sleeping on my back seat itself for 3 days but this last night at 10 pm and a local Walmart. The good news is I slept like a baby it works very well it was $59, I also bought the crib sheet to go over it and everything works just fine. So just a little update to let you know I'm trying different things as tow piglet suggested and I think I ought to be able to stick with this for a while. Feeling refreshed and driving to get loaded. Thank you tow piglet. Hope all you guys out there have a great day. KEEP IT BETWEEN THE DITCHES BOYS. Also voice to text as I drive I hope you guys get the message
Boy that was long, ha!
can you do a video on how you built the bed frame
Does this count as a “sleeper” to the DOT? Because you have to either go “off duty” and leave the truck or go “sleeper berth” to stay in the truck as a for hire driver. But I think the DOT has certain mandates as to what is a legal “sleeper berth”. I’m a Class A 18 wheeler driver who’s considering Hot Shot and I’m trying to gather as much info as possible. Thanks.
steve koelliker if you don’t have a dot legal sleeper. You just go off duty and sleep in truck. Nothing says you have to sleep. Just that you take 10hrs. But you can’t claim sleeper without a legal sleeper
I have seen guys sleep across the seats in a day cab with just a board, just go off duty
@steve Riley done that before when i was at Halliburton lol
So looking into legal sleeper cab setups.
And what I can find says DOt regulations state dimensions have to like 75” long, 2’ wide, and 2’ high from top of mattress.
Also says something song the lines that off duty time can’t be spent in the truck. So that keeps you from using off duty time to rest in the truck.
Hoping you have some insight
Your second section is wrong.
It says the opposite
Any time spent on or around a non moving truck is off duty as long as you have no obligations to the company
I took one of those chiller units To Georgia yesterday it weighed 13000 pounds
What are the actual measurements for the board under the bed?
Excellent, I am going to you your idea.
You go to the truck and buy a dealer 😂 I love your videos
God job man👍
First hot shot I drove was a single cab I would sleep across the front seat I had heat but no ac
Hi, how much money in a week do you spend being on the road? Like food and other stuff
Have you ever seen the notel bed for pickups. It’s about $400. But you can put it in cars,jeeps or trucks
Surely your bed at the new house sleeps better but I think its great!
I removed the rear and passenger seat and made a bed from the glovebox to the rear of the cab
Casa grande to Phx in AZ. 😎
P.s. thanks for the vids..
How do you keep cool while sleeping?
I’d also like to know this.
What’s the measurements for the pieces of wood underneath and plywood on top ? 🛠📏📏✏️
Do you let your truck idle while you sleep if so is this hard on truck and fuel?
0:08 sounds like a garbage disposal. But how can a garbage disposal be disposing itself? Only Ram knows. I love your video of the axle breaking and catching fire on the Ram. Great example of how the engine being great is completely unhelpful. Stellantis is a shitstain more than it's an automobile manufacturer.
Really good video.. can i have the sizes of the bed the wood size.. i have a 2022 3500 ram .. but i need craft my bed
Looks like the truck came like that...lol
Great idea
What's? the measurements of that table? Need to build one
what kind of mattress did you get and where did you get it from?
Doesn’t the DOT hassle you about logging sleeper berth time in there being it doesn’t meet the measurement requirements of a DOT sleeper
its not a sleeper, he logs off duty
Take the passenger seat out and put in a mini fridge and oven 😄 it's been done on plenty of semi.
Is it DOT approved?
Best idea ever
Can you legally sleep in a set up similar to this? I’m looking to get into hot shot trucking but I keep seeing every where that your sleeper berth has to be a minimum of 74 inches wide and have some sort of restraint.
This is the argument of time. They make kits to cut out your rear doors and counter sink trim. Removes everything in the door so you get another 7" on each end of the bed. But nonetheless the measurement has to be from the bed to the roof, no pickup has passed the bed to roof distance DOT requires. REGARDLESS of what you may see or read on any social media. More or less DOT has gotten so fed up with citing and chasing down people to give warnings that they are starting to ignore hotshots after 10yrs of them breaking the laws because their too stretched thin. So then in return, Hotshots seem to think it somehow became legal.
Best choice you can do is have 1 of many companies now taking and converting your crew into a sleeper. 10-15,000 or more, with substantial cut/body weld and rework. But then at least you pass the BASIC measurements for birth. But you still wont ever have the "CLEAR PATH to drivers seat"
Theres also a higher fire resistance rating required for any berth mattress. Think they wont check?
Theres also a higher fire resistance rating required for any berth mattress. Think they wont check?
3:30 welcome to Phoenix
When you lease from interprice do you get your truck without the back seator you remove it yourself thx,stay safe outhere!!
What about AC?! Is there a way to install portable AC instead of using the truck's AC unit?
This is awesome. I really want to get into this, but not sure if it make sence financially? Considering the insane wear and tear, is it still profitable with the diesel prices?
I'm getting ready to do hotshotting. What are the dimensions of the plywood for your sleeper.. Did you have to cut your mattress or it fits exact.. Thanks
Is it hard getting used to sleeping in a parking lot, with people and vehicles moving all around you? I think that would be the hardest part
Yes
I think your a genius. You gotta be saving a ton of money off motel Bill's. You gotta do what you gotta do. Kudos to you Alex..
Good thinking.
Don’t you worry about crazies, people with guns, car break in?
Hey I thought this video was helpful. I have a hotshot and I bought an car airbed for my driver to sleep on. He says it’s comfortable but exploring other options to make it a little better back there. I’ve been hearing people talking about this platform bed which is what I see you developed.
Also what’s your strategy for the winter month so the truck isn’t running idle all the time? Do you have a generator and space heater or are you running that truck 24/7?
Yes the truck would run almost 24/7
Mattress details? Where did you get it from and what size? I can't find a mattress anywhere near the "40x60" size I need.
Is your truck deleted? I want to get into hot shot but my trucks deleted and don’t want to run into issues with Dot
Do you sleep with the windows down for a breeze? If so do you worry about someone creeping up on you?
No I do not
What percent of tint do you have on those back windows? Thanks
If you did not have a truck already would you get a 3500 ram duelly? Or would you still get the single? What about a RAM 5500?
I would lease from enterprise and I think right now they have only Fords. I would still be under 26k but not by choice
@@TowPiglet Thank you for the fast reply! Appreciate your time and work you put into the vids to help. I will look into Enterprise, I have always been a GM guy. I think RAM is the better truck right now. (sorry Dad, God rest your soul!) I guess I will do some more research....Ford was last choice up till now, but your opinion means a lot. So you do not think a Duelly long bed will do any better?
The trucks that enterprise has are dually long bed F350. I asked if they could could get a srw and they weren’t sure they could.
So if I were to go dually/enterprise route I’d have to down rate my trailer a little more and I’d have less weight available for freight but that’s a small price to pay in the grand scheme of life because I still owe about 23k on my truck and it has 423k miles on it right now.
@@TowPiglet Thank you for the advice.
Tow Piglet can you lease a pickup with any enterprise or is it one in general that does the leasing? Also will it have a king pin or something to tow with installed
What do you log in your ELD for sleeping? Sleeper berth or off duty? Does dot care. Thanks.
It has to be off duty because this is not a dot compliant sleeper
The law also states that when “off duty” you must be away from the truck.
I was busted in Wyoming for not complying with it.
Nice set up! Can you sleep at rest area or truck stop area?
Yes I can, I prefer it
If you can lay down and sleep it's doing the job!
YOU NEED A RAM MEGA CAB
Do you claim sleeper berth? Or off duty?
Off duty
Do you have any estimates of fuel consumption for an 8 hour sleep?
No but I'm guessing it's 5 maybe 6 gallons so that's like 20-30 dollars
What are the dimensions of the box spring that is in your truck? I’m going to try to create the same thing for my Dodge Ram 3500
5ft x 3ft
Tow Piglet thanks bro
@@TowPiglet Did you find a 5'x3' mattress somewhere, or did you just get a foam mattress and cut to fit?
I’m having hard time fitting a twin mattress in the back. It’s sticks out the door about 6 inches. Is there something special you did?
Do you idle a lot,when its hot!
Is it legal to sleep in your truck?
What size is that mattress?
Nice job TP...
How many hours per day are you driving?
Per week?
11 a day
70 a week
@@TowPiglet
Nice job on your super long day and 2 minutes to spare.
Awesome!!
Question for you.
You mentioned at a previously about a enterprise in Texas that does leasing and a waiting list and 3,500 down.
What was the cost per molies or months?
How does that work and who do you contact for that.
Do you think that is still a way to go?
Thank you
And...stay healthy my friend!!!
What company put you in a truck and said go?
Love it!! Simple I hit the button... thinking about getting into this but seem people is flooding the market which will drive prices down or am I wrong? Is there money to be made at this? I am not doing it I was going to put a retired friend in it...
You can make a living if you drive, hiring a friend usually doesn’t work out
nice videos love all the info you provide...got a question I live in TX would it be feasible to hotshot intrastate only？
In a state like TX maybe, but you'll be even more limited on freight
The only bad thing i can tell is if you want to sit up on the bead your head would hit the roof, The plus side you have extra storage room ,, Just curious why don't you remove the passenger seat as well
I thought about it many times just never ended up doing it not sure why
Done it and it doesn't really open up that much space. You lose a place to put a laptop, a cooler for your food, extra water bottles... when you take out the seat. Reaching onto the floor is a real stretch and things roll around. You could rig u some storage solution but threre's no room to open drawers.
I don't think this is a legal Sleeper Berth
Do that is legal? If DOT stop you.
Truck tent on rooftop?
its legal to sleep like that ? what about DOT
Measure ments?
The base its just flat surface . If I were u I would get with a gaps like usual bed looks like underneath of mattress. Because that let's your mattress breath
hello men how are u how i can get in to this busines thank u
That looks like Phoenix
Is it comfortable
Sir, i need that job as a driver.
If it’s super hot/cold, do you idle the truck to sleep?
Yes