HUGE NEWS!! New TRIPLE BANNER SYSTEM Coming To HONKAI STAR RAIL In Version 2.5!!? | Honkai Star Rail
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This is a double edged sword for F2P
I hope its not like that GI banner
Yeah
I was gonna say like either yall gotta give Alot more jades and or you gotta make the multi cost 1000 or 500
@@saltyismymiddlename97yup I heard the same thing when theres a leak that genshin has 3rd banner but it turns out that its literally a combination of character & weapon banner into one, and the worst thing about this banner is that guarantees doesnt carry over to the next
No it isn’t do u know how statistics work?
This is indicative of an issue: Star Rail has far too many 5 Stars and not enough 4 Stars to balance them out.
A lot of people care more about 5* characters anyway. If they make the new banner have different 4* characters then it'll be good for E6-ing them
Why is that a problem though?
agree : something like 16 new 5* per year is a lot and it means older v1 characters may take a while to come back.
It is an issue for new (or recent) comers having already missed reruns for characters like Ruan Mei or Kafka who are key in their respective playstyle (Break / DoT).
Either these playstyles are locked away for them or amongst this plethora of 5* there would be powercreeps/replacements. If Hoyo does not want to take this route, then either slowing down on the release of new 5* or introducing a 3rd banner are solutions. We also heard about "skins" for older characters which could be a way to make an old thing look new.
@@wallnut7624bc it’s impossible to keep up with and makes choosing who to pull (especially in a game like hsr where the meta is based around whoever has come out most recently) even harder for f2p?
If the older characters are available to pull more frequently, that’s a good thing. (Unless they gothe Genshin route and pity doesn’t carry over to the next banner. That was incredibly shitty thing about the otherwise ok regional banners. But I have faith in HSR)
Of course a f2p or even a low spender can’t get everyone in every banner but that’s already how it is. We always have to choose who we want the most. Having more banners to choose from doesn’t change that.
It would be better to have a new form of currency for the third banner, one that doesn't use stellar jades.
Problem is however if there are multiple characters you actually need. For example if you want a FUA team and you have both Aventurine and Robin in one banner is a nightmare.
@@LoppedofflemonsAgreed, especially one that makes online count, counts.
@@lAzurely it’s because the average f2p would get at least 1 5 star a patch. Adding in a new currency allows for a way to get an additional 5 star without having to worry about stellar jades through the triple banner.
If you are talking about the Ode banner, then yes, it was really crappy pity didn't transfer over to another banner.
If you meant "in general," I wanted to tell you that pity for limited and standard banners always transfers over to the new banner just like HSR. And I think it remembers pity up to a year now.
The only banner that doesn't remember pity is the weapon banner. That banner is a scam and I will continue to complain about it until I die. Esp for f2p players.
Personally, I hope its like Snowbreak currently, where you get to pick one of the rerun banners, but once you pick, the choice is sealed in. So it would still be only 2 banners to pull from, not 4. But with more choices, which is nice.
I think that's what will happen, but it would be a nightmare for spender I guess
thats great, now i dont have to wait so long for rerun anymore.
I hope it not like GI
Good things if we want to focus E6 our favourite character but the question is always is it worthed to E6 old character while there is always better and powercreep character coming out every patch
I would rather be thankful if they reset 200 selection standard banner
It is worth if it's your favourite, i still use e0 clara to clear every end game content, u don't need 0 cycle anything, so limited char at e6 will be always usable
E6 character will most likely last the whole game especially if it’s penacony or after
@@greenvega me too, clara is fun.. I dont even think to pull yunli, but I really wish to E6S5 maybe E1S5 or at least E0S5 my Robin, still questioning is it really worthed... Robin E6S5 hits like a truck (300k 8 times) but the price really high.. Even E0 Lingsha can do constant 150-200k alone (hmc ult though)
@@greenvega do you have any data about E0S5 or E1S5 robin damage data? I dont find it anywhere
@@donew1thita11 yeah but at what cost 😆
This will make it easier for f2p to E6 their favorite units because characters will reappear sooner and more frequently.
Eh more or less cuz then they'd have to Resist the temptation of a new character while also resisting a rerun character
Yes! Verticle investment is superior to horizontal investment, especially when it comes to supports like ruan mei and robin
no 🤦🏻♂️
@@MyLadyLuna i opted for quality > quantity. Started pulling in 2.0 2nd half.
- E0’s: Luocha
- E0S1’s: Sparkle, Jing Yuan, Robin, Fu Xuan
- E1S1’s: Jingliu, Ruan Mei, Firefly
- E2S1’s: Aventurine
- E6S1’s: Acheron
So yeah, skipped Topaz, Boothill, Jade, Argenti. Am skipping Yunli, Huohuo, Sparkle rerun. I’m gonna pull Jiaoqiu though. Pull Ratio’s lc. Skip Feixiao. Still hesitant on Lingsha, the Firefly team is really fun.
I didn’t get E2 Firefly coz that’s overkill. No joke I used her in gold and gears today (torturous difficulty). And she attacked NINE times in a row! The other day in Divergent Universe, she attacked SEVEN times in a row, TWO times in that battle.
Jingliu coz i like her. Ruan Mei coz def ignorance is crazy. Aventurine coz he’s SP positive and more debuffs for acheron. Acheron coz ppl theorised “1 year anni” “raiden mei is their favourite character so ofc itll be the most busted” “she wont be powercrept”. Now looking back, I would have pulled E1 Robin, at the time i was so hesitant to even get her or her light cone. I’ll probably pull Luocha’s lc on rerun just for the completionist/aesthetic purposes, i just didnt pull it at the time coz i had S5 Perfect Timing.
@ghotyolocanisyn2880 Yeah, eidolons on prior supports and dps(not sustains those are questionable) will always be stronger than having to invest horizontally. Especially when with vertical investment, you'll be able to clear content a lot better which means you can save your pulls to pull whoever you want for fun
As long as they don't reset the guaranteed, it's all fine. If they do, i'll not hesitate to use my guaranteed in Sparkle's rerun.
I'm ok with it tho. As long as it's only one new banner and the other 2 is rerun.
I remember we gotten info about the other one but three banners at once seems a bit too much
Don’t say that. With how many 5 stars we got, and how unique some are (topaz and kafka for instance) it is necessary to increase the amount of banners by at least one. Otherwise we’ll see each character once a year, and it’s harder in star rail to just rely on one all purpose team like in genshin (unless acheron)
Soon 4 banners in one half wont be enough as there are 2 new characters every patch lol
3 seem so ok
Watch Genshin having some character absent for over a year.
@SordidusFellatio okay chill out no need for long paragraph to explain it I understand what you mean I just hope the third one will be useful
As a F2P, I have no idea what to think about this. 😅
its great tho think about it if you want to focus on dot character but dont have kafka now you can summon for her and her light cone same with fua (topaz) i belive they are the only one that are worth summoing for if ruan mei not in it too.
its a good thing to have more banners since you won’t have to wait as long for reruns even if that mean not having as long to save
That doesn't change the fact that we F2P Players can only pull 1 character per patch. It just gives us the chance to get characters' rerun quickly
I like it since I can get characters I want earlier
I just hope that there isn't an increase in new 5*s
hmm well you see, you cry when a rerun character you want comes exactly when theres also a new 5 star character you want too xD
I certainly would like a system that makes reruns faster (or deals with them in a different way), 2nd reruns will take forever to come, and they don't stop releasing new characters at every patch
Wish they could do the dorm supply in honkai impact like when year after a character releases they put them in dorm supply so you can pull the old characters there
This is pretty good
Reruns can cycle through faster and if you even miss the one you want it wont be as long for a return
The ability to get older characters quicker is amazing since I just started playing hsr recently and just missed the Firefly and Ruan - Mei banners. So getting any of the really good characters from those banners and beyond would be cool.
I’ve been saving my tickets ever since Jade rn I’m at 96 tickets for the Acheron and Aventurine banners and might get to 140ish. I lost 50/50 to aventurine and didn’t have enough tickets for Acheron, but I am ready this time. I MIGHT wait for Jiaoqiu or my gacha impulsivity will get the best of me and make me pull for him…
Jiaoqiu is pretty much useless without acheron, aventurine is better option imo
LET'S GO GAMBLING!! 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥
Assuming the format and pity system is the same this is a massive W because it'll mean characters return more often.
i really hope its old units and not new ones cuz I NEED TO SAVE FOR ADVENTURINE RERUN AFTER E0S1 LINGSHA
AVENTURINE
So here's the thing.
You don't NEED the fancy new Limited 5 star that does 50 gigasharts of damage in one attack, especially if they're a parasitic character hog like Firefly.
When you pull for a character in Star Rail, you're pulling for the account, not a team comp. Pulling for a Huohuo or a Fu Xuan or a Ruan Mei will benefit your entire account a lot more than the shiny new DPS that'll get powercrept in 6 months.
"But how do you know?"
I've been playing for under a year. I skipped Acheron and Aventurine to pull for, and I'm not joking, Kafka, Black Swan, Sparkle, Fu Xuan, Boothill, Ruan Mei, and Huohuo, and I'm a BP/Pass player at most.
If that’s real, it means that f2ps like myself will have a chance to grab some characters that they couldn’t get before over new limited ones. It’s actually pretty good, well just have to see if the banner pity is shared :))
finally let us pick what character to wish on
once a character already have a rerun. there viability already decrease or have more better option already.
thats what we get because theres always 2 new 5 star every patch which makes powercreep become real fast.
I seriously hope they won't actually implement this(not surprised if they do though.) It'll be disastrous for F2Ps, especially considering how op/popular charas are released frequently (with op eidolons)... it'll be forcing ppl to top up, even with increased rewards.
Problem is that they keep releasing new 5* every 20 days. That's like 17 5* a year.
Because of this we will end up with 5* characters who will take months potentially years to rerun
It will be good. The characters you want will return faster
Could be worse, FEH released every 2 weeks :/
I don't see how this forces you to do anything, it just gives more choice and a chance to get more reruns of older characters.
@dylans3833 That's the problem, what if you have 2 characters you really need all at once? That's why this is a nightmare, it means you have to skip out on one of them and then you gotta wait for that character to have another rerun
You wont have enough jades but at least you won't have to wait forever for someone to rerun
I want Ruan Mei, ive lost my 50/50 on the rerun, love FF but baby do i need Ruan Mei
Now ppl can finally stop saying “seele rerun banner is gonna come before [insert character who hasnt had a rerun yet]’s banner”. This is perfect, since there’s so many characters. It feels like an eternity before your character you want comes back.
Or they could just have a store for older characters. At the very least ones that have had 2 banners.
yeah like ToF did, i mean Jingliu and DHIL barely keeping up now, there s no point pulling in their rerun, might as well put them in Standard banner and made their dupe available to be bought.
@@AhaxD-r7g you picked the best old characters too. At least they do *something* but the rest are just useless.
@@AhaxD-r7gthey can't put limited characters on the standard banner
@@cocoapuff_x why? if i remember Genshin got Tighnari limited banner then added him to standard banner later on. i doubt it has something to do with law or constitution in China, cuz ToF did that already they put outdated limited char into standard banner. so please explain why they cant
@@AhaxD-r7g because if you remember, when the livestream about tightnari banner, it’s has a small line saying this character will go to standard so it’s teased before that tighnari will go to standard banner, I don’t know if it’s has anything to do with the chna laws or not because i see others game do it too, but i do think it’s connected with something else
NOO DON DO IT HOYO PLEASE IM BEEGGGING YOU
Hi3 also reruns characters alot hsr shoul make rerun character have shorter lenth periods and rerun like 4 characters per patch
as an FGO player, I think this is hilarious
because imagine in like 4 or so years there's gonna be like 5 banners active at the same time.. oh boy this is gonna be fun
after loosing my 50/50 i must make my next one count
Like Mr. Krabs would say, "I'll believe it when I see it," or rather, when we see it.
But I swear, if there's a triple banner happening in the game, I'm gonna freak out and lose my mind!
Now, with the live stream confirmed the banners, now that I see it, I believe it...
Damn, HSR finally took an L in the face of Genshin.
Giving me major anxiety showing aventurine in the thumbnail I really hope he doesnt show up in 2.5.
I hope star rail doesn't turn into a greedy lil shi, as a f2p, three just sounds too much like really bro? If youre making three banners at once, might as well as give even more rewards for f2ps.
if you do all the events for this patch, and your dailies, you get 70-80 pulls for this version.
@@rembbokienot enoguh to guarantee a limited character + their lightcone. a lot of characters in hsr are slightly dependent on their light cones sooo
@@ThePinkyuu since that’s the average amount of pulls you get per patch, you can save. if you’re truly f2p, you’re not gonna try and get every single limited 5 star + their signature lc. you’re going to try and optimize your account, so naturally, you’ll save for the character and lightcone you really want. that’s all i was saying
I'm F2p and I've skipped several banners to get light cone and character. And got lucky. But sometimes ppl need to just don't pull.
F2p sometimes means that you won’t pull for a lot of characters to get what you want, I don’t see why that should change if they release a triple banner. Older characters that you want rerun faster and more frequently, you’re not obligated to pull for every character every patch. If you do as a f2p that’s a you problem
That’s bs, no way a character that was just released past month will be rerunning…
this is bad, i realize after i pull for Jingliu instead of Acheron, i was new, and ppl recommend me to pull JL cuz ez to build, which i regret, rerun character value in HSR is abysmal except Harmony unit.
They also started to keep releasing incomplete kit, like ever since DHIL u had to get E2 to make the unit comfortable. it becomes ToF-like powercreep but with less reward, and they didnt even put old char into standard banner, or made their dupe buyable. they also didnt rework/buff the old char like FGO, and u ll struggle to use Old char for new content cuz the meta ll shill new unit.
They always said disaster for an f2p nobody force you to play the game.developer need money to run their company
EA Games and other companies like it love gamers like you. They could even charge for breathing and there would still be crazy people playing their games.
My Sunday funds looking like my Dainslief funds
I jst want the pgr treatment for at least 1 banner to have 100% rate up for the character garuanteed
TRIPLE BANNERS? I can barely handle double banners where I don’t have any of the limited characters 😭
My wallet 😅
True, me too -holy it will be insane. 😅
If only I had a wallet😢😂
@@GARUDA_hua Also true! 😂
As a whale, this is a win
They better give us enough jades for triple. Double is more than enough some people just aren't patient enough. If they do it it would have to be character banners that haven't ran in a long time.
Seems possible for it to be 1.0 and 2.0 character returns
If my lc pity doesn’t carry over to the Acheron rerun, I’m just gonna uninstall
Im starting playing HSR at 2.2 because im hooked hearing Robin song in Sunday boss fight
Sometimes im just thankfull to Genshin that they don't do double new 5 star in every patch because they don't really drain my wallet and i can save 😂
In HSR right now im skipping the entire 2.4 just for Feixiao(must pull) and Linsha(not must), the main prize is waiting for Acheron rerun that is where the real deal. Raiden verse is also one of the reason i start HSR after hear Acheron true name
Pardon me, but don't you need Jiaoqiu for Acheron's team? I mean, it's not mandatory to have him but it'll make your life easier, unless you intend to have her E2 during her rerun
@@adnanbillychrysostome7003I heard we must at least E0S1 Acheron first, then Jiaoqiu. Idk I'm not a pro
@@Khann_2102 E0S0 is my goal at least. It's better to pull for Aventurine and/or Robin. There are many videos on TH-cam showcasing E0S0 Acheron and she still does the job. It depends on your goal
@@adnanbillychrysostome7003 Yeah she already does bonkers damage even if my Acheron is E0S0 as well, so I think I'll save for Feixiao
nah , first they need to do something bout the storage first then they can do triple banner
I hope this is not true I skipped Yunli and Jade, might skip Jiaoqiu too. Star Rail should stop releasing 2 limited characters each version.
If they do three banners then they should up the jades we receive or down the hard pity we have to hit because that is a lot
"Give them an inch and they take a mile"
It'll be received with a fuck ton of negative feedback from F2P's, aka like 65% of the playerbase. My wallet isn't infinite either so I'd hate that feature being added
Why would you want to pull for 4 limited characters every half patch. This literally doesn’t change anything compared to the current system except characters rerun faster and more frequently, you just have the option to choose between 3. If you can’t get a 2nd unit you wanted in this sub-banner, wait for the next rotation, which I repeat, is literally what you’re doing with the current system. If you pull for as many characters as there are banners as a f2p, that’s a you problem
@@cortesyes
I agree, I don't know what to think like this..like, you guys are self aware if you are f2p don't be selfish hoping to get everything , you guys don't even want to spend money to support the game but instead you protest about no sense things🤦
as a f2p i see this as a good thing
Bruh, its gonna be good only for players that spend money on the game, not f2p players
No no no no no no no no not even 3 1 was a already too much NOW THERE ARE 3 OF THEM!! i mean it is still in beta footage but still THERE ARE 3 OF THEM!!
Oh 1:33 well at least they didn't do as genshit i mean there honkai in the word not gensh-
( Just joking about Genshi- )
dayum triple banners before genshin? if its real that is, i dont count chronicled wish cause its ass
they better increase the jades for us jesus
Be glad they're more generous than Genshin 💀
@@moodiiperson7474 that's irrelevant if they're going to run 8 banners per patch
F2Pers: "Nah, I'd win."
I wonder when we’ll be able to get ruan mei again…she skipped me😭💀
SAME 😭
I got firefly early by accident cuz I was clicking too fast and pulled on the wrong banner 😭
@@kicking_ninja OMG THATS WAY WORSE THAN MINE IM SO SORRY when I was pulling for boothill I lost my 50/50 to gepard but got boothill anyways in like 78 pulls but saved up enough to get to pity on ruan mei AND LOST TO GEPARD AGAIN SO NOW IM RUAN MEI-LESS
@@raindrop9396 I actually lost ruan mei's 50/50 to e1 gepard, and then I got firefly at 16 pity cuz of the reason stated in my first comment 😭
@@kicking_ninja same I also have an e1 gepard now
Guy's some one help me i Incidentally got Yunlin With 20pity 😅 how to build he know?
Same as most crit based DPS iirc, crit.rate/crit.DMG/speed/and attack percent
@@knightmare938 SPD isn't needed for counters though
Is there any chance we can get Hoolay as a character?
No
Hoyo just dig their own grave if they do that. Better stay with the current system and increase the percentage rate of getting limited/permanent 5* character instead
Biggest cope
They need to update the year one standard banner already I'm tired of getting bailu and E3 yanqqing 🥲🥲🥲
They need to buff everyone on it since we already have E3 Young Kings and Bailus.
Yanqing is amazing
Buff yes or atleast add more 5* units to standard banner for fuck sake.
Just blew 200 of my standard banner tickets lol and got 2 bailus 😂
@@rosies69he’s the worst five star dps and it’s not even close