What a well made and edited video; I've always been interested in this subject being a Mancunian and my parents actually met in a squat on one of the crescents in the seventies. Probably the best and most insightful video I've ever seen on this matter. You'll go far in life :)
Brilliant, well done, terrific use of archive. I was christened at St Wilfred's then moved to Benchill, but witnessed Hulme being rebuilt 3 times, we saw the terraces being knocked down and the flats built whilst coming in to town on the double decker bus to All Saints, past Denmark Rd market etc.- the lego sequence is wonderful by the way. I ended up living in the Crescents for a while, the people made a proper life despite the conditions, now the University is (ironically) possibly the end of it. The demise of the Public House..I've witnessed countless 'Consultations' with the council and despite them being Labour they've always made their minds up beforehand. Only when people really organise do they listen, if there's a threat of them not getting elected or a lot of pressure otherwise."The more respectable families were getting out anyway'' is a telling phrase from the academic..
+Bob Jones - hi - It looks very much like Fitzroy - a slum area which was bulldozed to build high rise housing in the late 60's... same architecture as the high rise here. Fitzroy has become extremely wealthy in the past 20 years, so there is now a heady mix of ultra rich and extra poor. They had to build windows that couldn't open to stop the jumpers and are a cockroach playground. Too hot in summer, too cold in winter.
Not sure what you mean: "...despite them being Labour they've always made their minds up beforehand." Despite them being Labour? Really. It is BECAUSE they are Labour that they'd made their minds up: Look how the Left operates today...Disagree with any mantra they come out with and you are simply shouted down and insulted. Labour: Enemy of Democracy anywhere in the world.
@@patagualianmostly7437 Thanks for your reply. I meant that once elected, councillors tended to ignore the voices of those who'd voted them in, not entirely but it happened. Independents would stand and be bought off with a house out of the area. Sure it was a Labour run council that built the concrete estates but had little choice, there were lots of campaigns to warn of the dangers. Which political system do you think works best?
Good documentary, being a kid living in Manchester in the 80s, everyone knew Hulme was a no go area. The council just shoved all the problem families on the estate. No wonder it failed, yes the build quality was poor, it was never thought through properly. Half the estate was build on piles of rubbish, then the council wondered why they had rats everywhere lol!!!
Thanks for your reply. When I moved back to Hulme in the 70's it was rough for sure, but not a 'no go area' and not everyone was a 'problem family'. The Crescents were not good, similarly Limbeck, Medlock Court, Arnesby etc in Moss Side. There was a great sense of community as well as the bad'uns..
I've always been fascinated with social housing with the UK. Hulme seems to be historically reminiscent of the issues with Hutchesontown Area E in the Gorbals area of my hometown of Glasgow. Structural problems being the key issues but there were other issues too - e.g. employment issues related to the Thatcher Government (elected in 1979) who were very much about neoliberalism as opposed to the Keyensian economic model of full employment. It's now 2020 and there are still some social issues within social housing nowadays.
This palace was a weird strange dump of a place. But you could live there for free or nearly free. Flats were freezing and cheap early 1970s style . the streets well dodgy most of the time. It was unique in Europe…. But destined not to last
Brilliant ...... (ending a bit sudden ??). I stayed in Hulme briefly during 1980’s as a punk, and have since returned to live there since it has been “gentrified” ! Have lived back here since 2000 and love it ....
And Mark my words it will be a slum once again as the build quality of many of these new flats and houses is poor,and they will fall to bits within the next 10 years.They fucked up,and continue to fuck up.The old terraced houses,well many of them could have and should have been saved,refurbished properly and brought up to date.Yes some would have had to have been pulled down but many could have,should have been saved.Will they ever learn?
I used to have a dark obsession with Hulme as a young teenager in the early 80s. I'd walk near it going to see Manchester City games in Moss Side. Both of Peter Sutcliffe's Manchester victims came from there (Lingbeck Crescent and Grenham Avenue) and of course Joy Division had their photos taken there. I regret not exploring it more before it was demolished. As I had a deprived background myself I was not looking at the place as a privileged voyeur I might add.
I was born in moss side as a kid growing up we never walked through hulme at night it was a bad place people that thought moss side and hulme was the same place but they never lived there you could walk through moss side at night we gave hulme a wide birth...
The same that went wrong on ardwick. Demolished communities and separated families. Er wereafr to think we were lower class shipped out to the suburbs. I felt like an outcast. They should have modernised the old terraced hoises
+Anthony Vickers (Soul-Jah T-Yah) Hi - can you tell the film maker - this was fascinating and has echoes in Melbourne High Rise... thank you, it is riveting.
the real hulme has gone , i lived in hulme in the 70s, as a child, and there was a community, that was taken away, and not in a good way, this video is urmm , well not real
The new hulme is not so nice now loads of different housing providers with tenants rights gone no one organization in charge so we just have bully landlords that take the piss out of us i miss the old flats and the council Adactus housing are just nepotist idiots that just put there hand up for free flats during regeneration
Princess road was always there, but after the riots in 81 it was decided to turn it into an urban motorway to prevent a repeat of the riots, as princess road was the centre point of the riots.
@@KingJoshuaTheGreat every time the people who lived there but didn't work and got their rent paid, that was socialism along with every time they visited the doctors or hospital.
@@RM-fs4dj you know nothing about our country mate, it's called the welfare state and it is there to support everyone in society, regardless of income. Even the rich here have free health care, and the state sees it fit that it should rent to the poor at rates appropriate to them rather than the poor being at risk of rip off rent from land lords who will exploit their economic vulnerability. The Crescents failed due to lack of council funds, and those funds were lacking from government deficits resulting from this country's choice to fight the Nazis from 1939. And yet, we regenerated again and now Hulme is a successful and thriving area of Manchester.
The crescents weren't named after their creators as stated, they were named after historical figures from Britain's architectural past.
I had the best years of my life in old Hulme through the late 80's and 90's.
What a well made and edited video; I've always been interested in this subject being a Mancunian and my parents actually met in a squat on one of the crescents in the seventies. Probably the best and most insightful video I've ever seen on this matter. You'll go far in life :)
Your mum and dad was new age travels
Brilliant, well done, terrific use of archive. I was christened at St Wilfred's then moved to Benchill, but witnessed Hulme being rebuilt 3 times, we saw the terraces being knocked down and the flats built whilst coming in to town on the double decker bus to All Saints, past Denmark Rd market etc.- the lego sequence is wonderful by the way. I ended up living in the Crescents for a while, the people made a proper life despite the conditions, now the University is (ironically) possibly the end of it. The demise of the Public House..I've witnessed countless 'Consultations' with the council and despite them being Labour they've always made their minds up beforehand. Only when people really organise do they listen, if there's a threat of them not getting elected or a lot of pressure otherwise."The more respectable families were getting out anyway'' is a telling phrase from the academic..
+Bob Jones - hi -
It looks very much like Fitzroy - a slum area which was bulldozed to build high rise housing in the late 60's... same architecture as the high rise here. Fitzroy has become extremely wealthy in the past 20 years, so there is now a heady mix of ultra rich and extra poor.
They had to build windows that couldn't open to stop the jumpers and are a cockroach playground. Too hot in summer, too cold in winter.
Where is Fitzroy? In Manchester? London? Birmingham?......
Not sure what you mean:
"...despite them being Labour they've always made their minds up beforehand."
Despite them being Labour? Really.
It is BECAUSE they are Labour that they'd made their minds up:
Look how the Left operates today...Disagree with any mantra they come out with and you are simply shouted down and insulted.
Labour: Enemy of Democracy anywhere in the world.
@@patagualianmostly7437 Thanks for your reply. I meant that once elected, councillors tended to ignore the voices of those who'd voted them in, not entirely but it happened. Independents would stand and be bought off with a house out of the area. Sure it was a Labour run council that built the concrete estates but had little choice, there were lots of campaigns to warn of the dangers. Which political system do you think works best?
My Grandmother, Mother, and Aunties lived in the crescents. I escaped it by being born in sunny Burnage. Paradise compared to cockroachville.
How weird, just thinking back 45 years about my time has small child in Charles Barry crescent. Then this comes up on my feed.
Good documentary, being a kid living in Manchester in the 80s, everyone knew Hulme was a no go area. The council just shoved all the problem families on the estate. No wonder it failed, yes the build quality was poor, it was never thought through properly. Half the estate was build on piles of rubbish, then the council wondered why they had rats everywhere lol!!!
Thanks for your reply. When I moved back to Hulme in the 70's it was rough for sure, but not a 'no go area' and not everyone was a 'problem family'. The Crescents were not good, similarly Limbeck, Medlock Court, Arnesby etc in Moss Side. There was a great sense of community as well as the bad'uns..
I've always been fascinated with social housing with the UK. Hulme seems to be historically reminiscent of the issues with Hutchesontown Area E in the Gorbals area of my hometown of Glasgow. Structural problems being the key issues but there were other issues too - e.g. employment issues related to the Thatcher Government (elected in 1979) who were very much about neoliberalism as opposed to the Keyensian economic model of full employment. It's now 2020 and there are still some social issues within social housing nowadays.
Wow, this was well done. Thank you for sharing. 🇺🇸❤️🇬🇧
This palace was a weird strange dump of a place. But you could live there for free or nearly free. Flats were freezing and cheap early 1970s style . the streets well dodgy most of the time. It was unique in Europe…. But destined not to last
That was a fascinating and very well done film ❤
Brilliant ...... (ending a bit sudden ??). I stayed in Hulme briefly during 1980’s as a punk, and have since returned to live there since it has been “gentrified” ! Have lived back here since 2000 and love it ....
And Mark my words it will be a slum once again as the build quality of many of these new flats and houses is poor,and they will fall to bits within the next 10 years.They fucked up,and continue to fuck up.The old terraced houses,well many of them could have and should have been saved,refurbished properly and brought up to date.Yes some would have had to have been pulled down but many could have,should have been saved.Will they ever learn?
i was always fasinated by the cresents travelling past on the bus to old trafford, something about the bull-rings that i liked only 17yrs thats crazy
I grew up in Hulme, best days of my life, miss the place a lot. Sure it had its problems but by far was a nice place to be 2000 and onward.
I used to have a dark obsession with Hulme as a young teenager in the early 80s. I'd walk near it going to see Manchester City games in Moss Side. Both of Peter Sutcliffe's Manchester victims came from there (Lingbeck Crescent and Grenham Avenue) and of course Joy Division had their photos taken there. I regret not exploring it more before it was demolished. As I had a deprived background myself I was not looking at the place as a privileged voyeur I might add.
Used to walk over from Ardwick some days to meet mates, use the adventure, & skateboard round & round the walkways!
I was born in moss side as a kid growing up we never walked through hulme at night it was a bad place people that thought moss side and hulme was the same place but they never lived there you could walk through moss side at night we gave hulme a wide birth...
Brilliant film! Any chance of contacting the creator to obtain a source list/ bibliography?
thanks
Very interesting but am I the only one bothered by that upside down leggo?
The same that went wrong on ardwick. Demolished communities and separated families. Er wereafr to think we were lower class shipped out to the suburbs. I felt like an outcast. They should have modernised the old terraced hoises
I love the lego
Remember some from john Nash Cresent . Sale was the other alternative , they were lovely normal houses ?
NICE ONE HOLLIE :) WELL DONE
+Anthony Vickers (Soul-Jah T-Yah)
Hi - can you tell the film maker - this was fascinating and has echoes in Melbourne High Rise... thank you, it is riveting.
I will :)
17:14 jack's van remember him? Icie 71/80
the real hulme has gone , i lived in hulme in the 70s, as a child, and there was a community, that was taken away, and not in a good way, this video is urmm , well not real
The new hulme is not so nice now loads of different housing providers with tenants rights gone no one organization in charge so we just have bully landlords that take the piss out of us i miss the old flats and the council Adactus housing are just nepotist idiots that just put there hand up for free flats during regeneration
1. They ploughed Princess Road through the middle of it. Cars and image above people.
Princess road was always there, but after the riots in 81 it was decided to turn it into an urban motorway to prevent a repeat of the riots, as princess road was the centre point of the riots.
Avoiding the obvious.
Free viraj mendez i think it said in the 1980s on one of the overheads as you went into hulme on the bus looking up obviously.
i be making a video very soon off real people who have lived through the 70s until now, us people , shop onwers , ect
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Excellent documentary film. Gives a rounded view of life in the Crescents - the good, the bad and the ugly.
CALL THEM THE BULLRING………………BOG HOLE…..
Q: Hulme, What went wrong? A: Socialism.
David Ryan no where in the U.K. has ever lived under socialism, this is what happens when the profit incentive takes control of housing.
@@KingJoshuaTheGreat every time the people who lived there but didn't work and got their rent paid, that was socialism along with every time they visited the doctors or hospital.
@@RM-fs4dj you know nothing about our country mate, it's called the welfare state and it is there to support everyone in society, regardless of income. Even the rich here have free health care, and the state sees it fit that it should rent to the poor at rates appropriate to them rather than the poor being at risk of rip off rent from land lords who will exploit their economic vulnerability. The Crescents failed due to lack of council funds, and those funds were lacking from government deficits resulting from this country's choice to fight the Nazis from 1939. And yet, we regenerated again and now Hulme is a successful and thriving area of Manchester.
has anyone considered the influx of immigrants
There’s loads of places up and down the UK that are rough to this day with not one immigrant in the area
@@reemyonline369 name some
@@robdegoyim4023 Norris Green/Speke/Anfield in Liverpool. Easterhouse in Glasgow and Salford, Greater Manchester.
@@reemyonline369 lol, lol, lmao
@@robdegoyim4023 😁