The Best Miter Saw! DEWALT FlexVolt 60V DCS781 12" Double Bevel Sliding Miter Saw Review
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DEWALT did more than an update to the FlexVolt 12" miter saw, they totally redesigned this miter saw to have more power, more features, more power and the best dust collection we have ever had on any miter saw we have ever tested. In our opinion, this is the smoothest, most accurate, and easiest-to-use miter saw on the market. This saw is worth every penny and DEWALY is pretty proud of this saw!
DEWALT claims 255 cuts in pressure-treated 4 x 4 Lumber; in our testing, it will do that and more! We had to mix it up and switched to 2 x 10 lumber and even some trim and we were well over 300 cuts in before the light blinked letting us know we were near the end of our 9Ah FlexVolt batteries charge.
Feature-wise, the new DEWALT DCS781 has the most intuitive and well-thought-out buttons and knobs on the market. Each item works as it should and creates a simple and easy-to-use saw for the professional. Interestingly, The new DEWALT FlexVolt Miter saw has Regenerative Braking Technology. This means that the motor that supplies the braking for the blade returns that lost energy back into the battery. We do not know how many cuts are gained by this technology, but this saw has an amazing runtime.
DEWALT claims Up to 94% of dust captured when cutting 2x10 SPF using DWV015 Dust Extractor. We used the DEWALT StealthSonic wet-dry vacuum and the Standard AirLock port compatible with standard 1-7/8 in. & 2-1/2 in. wet/dry vacuums and believe we had very similar results. We have never made over 300 cuts with any other saw in our shop and had little to no sawdust on use and very little on the saw. There was not enough on the floor to even sweep up and our vacuum was nearly 1/2 full. The dust collection is simply unbelievable.
Specifications
Blade Speed - 3800 rpm
Bevel Capacity - 49/49
Max. Depth of Cut Baseboard - 6.5"
Horizontal Cutting Capacity - 12.1875"
Product Weight - 50.9 lbs
DCS781X1 Includes
(1) DCS781 60V MAX* Brushless Cordless 12 in. Double Bevel Sliding Miter Saw
(1) DCB609 20V/60V MAX* FLEXVOLT® Battery
(1) DCB1106 6amp Charger
(1) Blade
(1) Blade Wrench
(1) Material Clamp
(1) Stabilizer Bar
(1) Vacuum Adapter
(1) Dust Bag
(2) Base Extensions
I picked this saw up as soon as it was available. Took my time making sure to tune it up to be perfect. It was really close out of the box. This thing is awesome. The only drawback I have with mine is I don't get to use it as much as I want to and after bringing it home, my wife doesn't let me go to Home Depot alone
does she want your gf to go with you?!
😂😂😂Your not alone brother!
may i suggest home depot online then its shipped to your house too. your wife can thank me later.
@@mattdeilke1142 if it's shipping to my house its probably coming from Acme tools 🤣🤣🤣
Just picked mine up today and it is money right out of the box. Fences and surface are spot on. Just need to check 0° and 45° calibration but those are easy to adjust.
This saw th-cam.com/users/postUgkx84IcU5pbZd1Qrz8u4-YRLmJax7kdRi7B comes in handy in many ways. When I had a small (dead) tree fall I started the process of disposal by using this saw and cutting off the small branches. Then slowly work on the small trunk with undercutting and letting it fall down. With many trees on acres of land paying for a tree service can be expensive. It also is nice in that it can be used in hard to get areas like along my creek. It's also safer and quieter than a chainsaw. It obviously can't cut down massive trees but it does work fine for small ones or brush. And of course since I already own a Black
Makita user here who nearly bought the original DeWalt 120v version. If there’s a tool DeWalt can tempt me with, it’s their 12” miter saws. The 120v was (still is?) extremely expensive and I ended up finding a fantastic deal on the 36v 10” Makita miter saw, so I got it.
I’m still VERY tempted with this yellow machine though, this new model a clear upgrade over the last. Shame about the price though… I might have to get by with my (still excellent but only 10”) Makita unit.
If not cutting material that demands the full size, stay with the smaller saw - much lighter
The way you carry a dialog with the camera is very fluid. We’ll done.
As for the saw - I just bought the 12” makita 40v - blade wobble out of the box - they wanted me to bring to a service center for a week rather than send mw a blade. The thing is SO heavy - and their rolling stand is no equivalent to the dewalt one.
Returning this weekend and going with this dewalt. Only $200 more than current price on the dws780 - and it’s got better dust collection by the looks of it.
Great channel, great review as always. I have it and it’s the best saw on the market. No need for the optional ac power.
I kind of wish it had a front rail slide design, but that's a minor nit for a cordless that likely won't sit in a shop or garage in a stationary position. Looks like a winner!
Wow, I am so tempted just for the dust collection alone.
I have this and the flexvolt tablesaw. Love not having to mess with cords or find a box on the job site. Just make sure u have at least 2 9 amps for the table saw. The miter will go all day on a 6 amp though.
I got this today, haven't used it yet but am very excited.
I am very interested in this saw. Love the idea of cutting another cord.
this saw is a big upgrade from first cordless model . Due the being less weight i may upgrade to it . the dust collection from what i see is better then my kapex . this saw has some real good features .this was a well done review
I have this saw. It is a beast for a cordless saw
I’m glad I almost bought the dcs780 on Black Friday glad I waited
how much did you pay?
@@JohnQPublic345 I paid $900 or soo but thats only because I couldn’t wait any longer I bought it at Home Depot like day one or two of it coming out onto shelves. I think it’s like $600 now
Nice review! I like the single battery aspect of this but also like the ability to plug the old one in. I have a DCS780 and the cordless 7 1/4, thinking of replacing the 7 1/4 with this for the added cordless power. How does this compare to the 780? How does this slide the display at HD seems “grittier” than the 780.
The ability to plug into Mains Power is a big plus, especially if you spend a lot of time in your workshop. I'd like to see DeWalt come out with an extension cord that could be used in place of a battery on any of their 18/54Volt cordless tools.
The thing is that’s what kills the motor…. On the old model at least
Any word on the 60V A/C Power Adapter? After rolling out a single battery / 60v table saw rather than a two battery / 120v to go with the miter saw DeWALT promised a 60v adapter would be available soon! …Still waiting. I usually setup both the slider and chopper on the 723. Outside, on battery I can let the dust fly. Inside I use the A/C adapter to start a CT Mini. DeWALT hasn’t really addressed activating dust collect while on battery.
Quality review, as per usual.
Until I see an AC adapter for this saw I’m sticking with my corded 12” Dewalt slider for this reason.
Exactly - lets be so detailed to engineer regenerative braking and just forget to make it start the vac - even the dewalt vac with bluetooth thats been out for years
Is this anything more than the DWS780 with a 60V battery and a better plastic dust collector?
yes you are right this is a very good miter saw, i got my at ACME TOOLS with the dewalt 15amp battery, the battery was on sale for $249 and the miter saw $699. very happy with my buy, only one issue where did you get the ADAPTER for dust collection on the miter saw to vacuum? is there a part number? please let me know thanks
It came with the saw on the top of the box. It was taped into the Styrofoam and sort of hard to see. I did get the X1 kit, maybe that is the difference?
Does it manage to get dust in the bag without suction? Obviously less, but wondering how it would do if one had a corded vac and no cord at the job that day.
Great review as always!
Yes it does get the dust in the bag. Yes, there is a significant difference! I hav a few car/paint projects going on in the shop and I do not want too much dust. But I do show that in the next accuracy video coming out Saturday.
@@WorkshopAddict I didn’t think it was collecting all that much dust in the bag till I opened the bag and was actually surprised how much dust was in it.
Have you noticed your battery increase by 1 bar on occasion? I’ve watched mine go from 1 to 2 bars and from 2 to 3 bars many times …. I was confused by that because I expected extend it to just drain the battery slower but not see a physical increase to the life of the battery.
Thank you for the detailed review. I have owned this same for over a year now and am still very happy with it. Keeping your blade as new/sharp as possible helps maintain the battery as well. I have also found that with the correct blade, this saw rivals any other on the market (Festool, Bosch, Makita). I love that it can still be plugged in if you want to. Very thought through and tough saw!
This channel is great that was an awesome review.
I been thinking between this and the Flex Miter saw...tough call when the M18 FUEL 12 inch saw is nice too...
thats a pretty good looking saw
That thing is a beast.
Great review. Looking forward to the accuracy review.
Exactly accuracy is the bane of the 12" miter category and why some of us stick with the 10" units. Do an accuracy test out of the box.
How do you override miter detents on this one. All of my old dewalt saws have a miter detent override
Looks an awesome saw! Does it have Bluetooth to connect to a vacuum?
W O W , now that's a Saw....
Awesome Review..👍🖖
Nice review 👌
Just bought this to replace the flexvolt DHS716. I think Dewalt has something going with the regenerative braking charging the battery. Good time for them to update the cordless table saw with the same technology.
Why replace the dhs716? Broken?
@@BrandonContracting No everything works. Just updating equipment.
@@jameskelly4494 did you keep your dhs716?
@@BrandonContracting Gave it to my son. He just bought a house.
I really really wish they make a 10" and 7-1/2". Especially a 7-1/2" and make it lighter than the brushed version
+1 on 10"one
They should make a 20v miter saw line also , or make the smaller say 20v . It would be good for me as a trim guy
@@juniorbucknor1333 They have one, 20v 7 1/4 DCS361. Used it for years, some of the features on this new saw are the same as that 7 1/4. I used it a lot to cut pvc fence with a siding blade. Great cuts, slightly underpowered but I know those blades dont really cut and take a lot of power. But what annoyed me is they have a 20v 7 1/4 brushless handheld, had it when this miter came out, so why not just use the same motor and give the miter more power?
What really annoys me here is the new saw doesnt have a way to activate their vacuums, even if you had to plug something in - or bluetooth like the flex volt vac. I mean it's annoying to have a cordless saw and they go on and on about their dust collection and then just overlook how to actually turn the vac on and off. On my dcs361 I use a Christmas light cordless switch to turn on my ridgid vac, but its another thing to remember and it should be part of it
Olá ,o que vc achou dessa serra ? Do desempenho dela em comparação a de 120 v ?
Sweet tool, I just wonder why not just use a corded saw at this point?
Love the channel excellent review
Did you use M class dust extractor or normal one?
I'm curious about the long term effects on the battery discharging power and charging power constantly
The FlexVolts dont seem to care. I heat the batteries up much more with the chainsaw.
Very useful review, as it seems to have very good performance indicators.. The price is not high at all. Here in Europe, and more precisely in Bulgaria, it will probably be over $1300 with duties and taxes 😠🙄.
What you guys think between this one and the DHS790?
This is a very good saw
Imagine if they added tool connect like on the track saw
Gorgeous saw. The regenerative braking system is very interesting. I wonder how small of a saw they could fit that system on. The only unfortunate thing about the saw is the price.
To me it’s worth the money after all he said. It’s not a ryobi it’s a commercial miter saw it’s not supposed to be cheap
Is there a way to make it corded also?
HEY dont forget the offset belt drive allowing for them DEEEP cuts
I have dewalt corded too dog and if I was a contractor I definitely get that one
They took there best corded saw and turned it into a beast know
If they can also make that sae cordless and corded out if same tool I be sold
I bought the corded because I want hand mine down in 60 years
Battery system change
In 10 years they may been may be difffent voltage lol so
Hey can you test the Command Access dewalt battery field variable voltage power supply ? Looks promising but I’m not sure
Shoot me a link
It’s a top level saw on a top level price. I’m curious what size vacuum hose that is on that dewalt unit?
2-1/2
how did you connect the vacuum to the saw
Lookalike DeWalt got this redesign right! Contrast the OK but nothing special while being late to market Milwaukee track saw
The rail design is a deal breaker for me I would pick the 40v makita over this or a festool as I need to set it up in small places.
I think I'll be selling my dws799 and buying this saw.
Dust collection seems to only work well if you cut certain material or a certain procedure
does it come with a plug in option like the old one?
It does not
Would the regenerative braking damage the battery or speed up the degrading of the battery
This saw is AWESOME !! Next to my Kapex this is a very tight 2nd as my favorite saw. Im a
#yellowfellow
Do they sell that adapter separately?
If "That Adapter" is meaning the dust collection adapter, it comes with the saw. I am unsure if DEWALT offers it separately.
Dewalt! Make a smaller/lightweight version!
ok thanks, my did not came with. I am trying to fine the part number anyway super thanks
No problem 👍
You think it's expensive in the states?
Try buying it in the UK. it's £1000 for the bare unit!!!
£1300 for the kit?
Definitely being ripped off over here🤨
Power stack compatible?
No. Flexvolt only.
Всё гениальное просто
My company loved this saw…. When it worked. Our first one lasted less than 3 weeks with light work. I delivered it to the service center in Dartmouth. Stuff happens we may have got a defective one. A month and a half later we got a new one because there were no parts available to repair it. The new one stopped working after less than two weeks. The service center was rude beyond imaginable. We picked the high road. Still waiting for a response after jumping through hoop after hoop. I understand the service center is over loaded and they didn’t engineer this poor product. I would love for someone from Dewalt to contact me rather then bounce me from USA to Canada and back again.
How much sir
Lmao, this saw is awsome! But why I saw a huge blade attached to A battery powered grinder?
A Radial Arm Saw does everything. Why have they stop making them ? Is it now they are able to make you buy two or more saws to do what one Radial Arm Saw can Do, thus making more money/profits off Cosumers for themselves ? I think so ...
Saw
Too bad there's no way to tool-actuate a vacuum with this saw. I own three DeWalt miter saws and would've happily bought this one even adding a battery platform but I'd rather plug in to a dust extractor once than turn on and off a vacuum every time I make a cut. Awesome saw - absurd that with all the things they got right that this isn't part of the package in 2023.
There are relay plug-ins available for this purpose. You plug the vacuum into the outlet that will turn on when it senses power running to the saw. It's not ideal especially with a battery saw though.
@@Fractal-insights yeah how does that work with a battery saw?
@@haltz I'm pretty sure I heard that this saw has the cord option too. if not, I've seen people use a toggle switch on the floor for the vacuum
@@Fractal-insights no cord option for this saw, that's the older model. I'm aware of foot pedals and remotes.
Tstak dust extractor uses a remote.
Trying to get 100% dust collection a miter saw, or any saw, is ludicrous!
Where's the corded version?!
The 799 seems close to this, but not exact. I have no clue if that model has the dust collection ability like this one.
My guess is with the 780 and 779 still being so popular and similar in stats that they won't produce a newer corded saw for a while. I mean in theory this is called the 781 so its a cordless version of the legendary 780.
This felt like a sponsored review over and actual owners review. You keep mentioning the dust control, but guy you have this hooked up to a vacuum. My other 2 flexvolts (dhs716 & dhs790) do well on vacuum too. You talk about the regenerative "charging" saying it works well but you literally 0 basis to quantify that statement. You don't even know if it's working or not. Fwiw I'm on day two of finish carpentry and haven't had to change my 6ah batteries on my dhs716. These batteries are old too. You mention nothing about the power vs the outgoing model(s), nothing about the feel when carrying it.. and probably most importantly you mention nothing about accuracy. Even out of the box accuracy before adjustments.
All you did was praise the saw without any criticism. I'm more inclined to trust the smaller channels that review tools because they seem more honest about what it can and can't do.
My only negative with this saw is the lack of wireless control of the vacuum…. Other than that this saw has been pretty awesome…
My first week with it I did notice something odd…. I used a 9ah battery in it… there were periods of time it would go from 2 bars to 3 bars and 1 bar back to 2 bars on the battery.
It did make me think the recharging effect was real.
I can tell you over a month using it…. Changing out the battery is something you’ll do a whole lot less with this one.
I'm so mad I just bought the old version like 2 months ago
Just wait until it blows up, then you will be really frustrated...
DeWalt did not equip this unit with a 120VAC plug-in feature like the PREVIOUS DHS790. They are GREEDY & want to force customers to buy more batteries. I'll skip this model. They could at least make a 120V AC to 60v FlexVolt battery adapter! Oh yeah, that would cost them battery sales. Perhaps I'll design, build & market one...
The issue is it burns up the motor in the first generation.
You make more power with a 60v battery than a 15 Amp 120v plug. Plain and simple.
dont like this dewalt miter saw, it very loud / dust not so great cutting 4pc of 2x6 wood that is using vacuum unit / next the rail system not so smooth. hate the saw dewalt dcs781b miter saw, up for sale... GO back to my makita 40v miter saw 12inch way better than this saw.
Why would you want this tool to be battery powered?
Why wouldn’t you is more of the question I’d have….
Everyone’s working environment can be different…. My or your needs may be different.
Your not sacrificing any power with this saw by it being cordless. Sometimes getting power to your tools can be inconvenient, or maybe you just have a few cuts and you don’t want to get your cord out… or maybe you just want to cut right at your work vehicle and don’t want to drag the saw to another location…
Once you have the convenience of cordless you’d understand it better.
Here is another example…. You have an extension cord with 1 plug. Your swapping tools from your compressor to your saw… that’s annoying… or you get to a job and it either has no power….. maybe the plugs are burnt out on the saw service… or maybe your not the only sub on the job… your having to share power… it’s just nice to have that cordless option….
Now go buy the 60 volt mitersaw and thank me later
It might have the best dust collection and amazing run time. I guarantee you in 6 months the blade will wobble all the pre dent won't line up. I've had 3x flexvolt and 18v miter saws and the are the worst saws I've ever used
Milwaukee rep undercover here watchout!
Get the extended warranty if your worried
The mitre scale is made as a plate for a reason. Order a new one as they wear out. A small price to pay for adjustability
I was liking this “ad” until the bs statement
This saws dust collection is incredible
Never seen another saw that can collect dust this good…
Uh ok
Stop the bs n just say you got paid to say buy this saw 🤣🤦🏻♂️
I did not get paid a dime. Look at the saw after 300 plis cuts. Watch my channel more. I do not play the BS games for stupid azz catch phrases. I try to give you the info you need to make a decision on the tool. I stand by this. This is the best dust collection on a miter saw I have ever used. Lol. Look a few videos back at the metabo hpt miter and I talked about what that saws dust collection sucked.
did you not watch the video that clearly shows the dust collection?