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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 มิ.ย. 2024
- In this video, I examine Dead Cells most difficult patch - update 1.2 Rise of the Giant - and explain why it was so hard and how it was fixed. This video covers 0BC all the way to 5BC (5 Boss Cells) true ending.
Intro - 0:00
Normal Mode 0BC - 1:00
Hard Mode 1BC (things get bad) - 2:20
Very Hard Mode 2BC (things get worse) - 4:10
Expert Mode 3BC (it got worse...) - 14:42
Nightmare Mode 4BC (unbelievable) - 17:30
Hell Mode 5BC (cat.gif HUH??) - 22:04
Music: Official Dead Cells tracks from @valmont9287
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Would you be okay with arbiters in every biome or $250k flask charges?👇🏾
Honestly both is bad lol but probably the 250k flask
most definitely not
Is I just me or maybe you should play skill only run
I played the first release of the game when it came out. According to developers, the game was so brutal that 70% of those who bought it couldn't kill the first boss. So they had to drastically reduce the difficulty.
I remember when i played it and it only has The Concierge and Conjunctivius. I take me days to defeat Conjunctivius.
@@rafidzia6463 lmao same
Mob density is definitely the biggest difference for me. Back then, running a slow weapon is almost impossible in some biomes. That made the lightning whip so OP. Just spam it mid air and by the time you hit the ground, small enemies are probably at half HP already, and just use the wolf trap on bigger ones. It's probably the only reliable way to deal with the Clock Tower and Cannibals.
No heart of ice, no Kill Rhythm, crusher doesn't slow, only green grenade is Powerful Grenade - can't imagine fighting 12 demons as Survival in 1.2 lol
We now have tons of rats on many biomes. Yes, they are at least stompable, but the struggle of slow weapons is still here.
malaise-per-hit and malaise being lethal at full bar was also a nightmare
For me the worst part by far were shops. I can understand mob density being off or forge grind being too much, but I cant understand how shop went through QA. I remember spending dozens of games being not able to interact with the shop at all, it was a dead mechanic for most of the runs and anyone playing the game could realize that.
This might be a personal perception but I also felt like the entire game was balanced towards parry specially on higher BCs, I've always been a roll player and some mechanics just felt absolute BS without shield.
Im glad the game went through so many iterations, such a banger.
Fun fact, if you get a fresh save and get the twinblade from your first kill at hand of the king (the one version you use to kil lthe king)
That blade even today still has scrolls in it
When going for the true ending it also has the stats still
I always thought they purposely kept it there with the scrolls to show it’s really popular but I guess it could’ve been an error
I got to 4 boss cells on standard difficulty before they added the accessibility options... and thank fucking god they did. The game is unbearable on higher difficulties, yet you're locked out of a lot of content if you aren't playing on them.
Really breathed new life into it for me. As I hadn't touched the game since this update.
Definitely. The old version around launch walled me hard at 2BC and then REALLY walled me to the point I quit in 3BC. The new game only walled me at 5BC, and I restarted a fresh file like 3 times between them.
2bc used to be INSANE the jump 1bc and 2bc was mental i was stuck for months
I remember seeing a >$100k giant killer in Caverns shop. That thing had its own bonkers economy
I thought the conclusion was gonna be, that the game was more challenging and more fun back then. But this looked like unfair hell.
it was awful specially at 2bc. only viable builds were hokutos bow builds or sadist stilleto builds
Dang, I remember the arbiters and knife thrower spam. That was crazy.
This makes so much sense! I just started playing Dead Cells again and I had stopped playing before at the 1.3 update. I was wondering why everything felt easier!
Ah 2bc hell, when I first started playing I gave up after my power died and I didn’t finish the 1% hp hand of the king, now I can actually say I have all boss cells, and be less proud than when I used to say I can reliably reach the second boss in 2 bc.
getting past clock tower cavern or any of those biomes before the 2nd boss was a bigger achievement to me that winning a run today
baseball bat + stun granade + wolf trap: nah, i would dominate bosses
I´m glad there were changes. 5BC remains difficult but possible, mostly fair and with all the enemys everywhere I think a all enemys can spawn everywhere modifier could be fun now for some nasty combos xD
these were awesome streams to watch while you got this footage
yep i def do remember that mob placement and density was something of an issue in original version
and a million small things that make a mountain out of pebbles
Ah, the good ol' times
This was great to watch through to see the differences. I don't know how to look it up, but it would be neat to know what year 1.2 would've been in place. I realize the devs have made so many updates/changes that 1.2 might've lasted a month, but to be able to know how many years ago 1.2 was compared to what "modern" Dead Cells is now, would be neat.
1.2 was right around when i got *really* into dead cells and watching made me realize why i have such bad ptsd for biomes like the promenade and clock tower. Just the sheer enemy spam made it unreasonably hard.
old morass of the banished still haunts me
yeah i was wondering why it felt easier these days.
old DC i was stuck on 1BC. but now i blaze through some parts i used to struggle with. thought it was just experience but this also be the case.
Absolutely hated rerolling for scrolls.
I never cared about affixes, just the scroll colours.
stumbled upon this video. i bought dead cells on 2021 when fatal falls came out.
never really got into it and still at 0 BC.
seeing your vid makes me want to try and play it again lol.
will be checking your other vid for beginner's guide.
i got into it in 2020 when bad seed came out, played until i got wbc right around when fatal falls came out. quit cuz of how hard wbc was for me back then. returned to this game today and beat 2bc today lol
i would love to see a long play of this
I remember putting the majority of my 200 or so hours into the game during this update. Listening to your woes reminded me of all the stuff I dealt with back then and despite it all still managed to pull off more than a few 5BC wins. I do remember specifically installing a cell multiplier mod to deal with the ridiculous forge grind lol. I could not be asked to mindlessly grind for meta upgrades when the enemy density was testing me as is.
Edit: went and checked some dates and turns out I was playing post arbiter nerf, around 1.5 or 1.6. Overall a lot of this stuff was still present but enemy density probably wasn't as insane nor were the cursed chests.
As someone who used to play a lot of Dead Cells but stopped years ago, that just looks like regular Dead Cells to me. Guess we've put a timeline on when I stopped playing lol
i still have this(without giant dlc) on my old phone
knife throwers were EVERYWHERE in my run ;-;
No wonder I got stuck on 2 BSC years ago
FIRST also yeah some of the runs i do sometimes its quite sucks to get everything whenever you start a freshly save and yes lost my old save last year so yeah but sometimes its getting a lil lazy for me to get everything cause of the new yk dlc and new melee or items so yeah also love your videos vee been a fan since quarantine ❤❤
'just watched the introduction and i have been thinking about this topic recently. I had different criteria, i originally played dead cells before the rise of the giant patch. If i was to compared with now i would have looked at just before the rise of the giant patch. :)
Holy hell theres not arbiters and knife throwers everywhere anymore? That was awful. Old malaise was total garbo too, that rework was so needed.
Double boys axe - the memory lives on.
honestly from what i have heard, speedrunning was a LOT harder too because the war javlin isn't how it works now and it recuired soo many weirder stuff than now, and im thinking of actually playing it
I was stuck at the first boss in the black bridge, good thong it was reworked, im comin back
Great vid!
I'm very surprised you didn't use double binding as that seemed to be our answer for the game's brutal difficulty back in the day lol (electric whip + ice shards i'm looking at you)
Trust me, I tried but 1.2 Ice Shards has AMMO to it and dual binding just uses it all up 💀
haha yeah that and blood sword hokutos bow
dot damage used to go crazy
This was fun to watch
I played before 5bc was added and I almost exclusively used the cursed sword
It’s way easier now. Stuff like the deck and the bat alone make the game easy for people that want to use the cheesiest weapons
or the throwable objects with literally almost any weapon
scrolls in items look cool and helpfull for me
Holy, I remember this was the time when I first saw a videi if yours, I clearly remember to thing omg how does he shit on the giant so hard with just boomerangs or the shotgun while I got oneshoted 3 runs in a row? That point on I never miss a single video, also this was the patch when I got hardstuck in 4BC. Thanks for the nostalgia shot Vee, I very much appreciate it
was a blast to replay this for yall 😆
I just picked up the game after playing on release way back when. Fresh save. I got to the throne and won on my second try. First try I died from a one hit curse, otherwise I think I would have won that run, too.
I don't know remember far I got on the launch version. I know I beat the king.
I could have sworn the game was way harder and it took me tons of tries to get to the final room. Guess I was right. Just seeing the mob density in the first minute of the video confirms it.
Here I was, fresh off Hollow Knight, thinking I was just in peak 2D platformer mode.
i'm playing this game for a long time now and as i understand the game better now i decided to start over and see how fast i can prgress this time.
i'm uploading the first part (3.5 hours) of gameplay just to show my entire progress.
even though i have lots of videos on my channel already i only have 19 subscribers but still i hope you'll take a a look at it maybe give me some tips.
(as of right now youtube says it will take 6 hours to finish the upload.)
I used to think it was messed up the final boss would kill you so fast without really having any time to learn his moves. I beat the game only 4 times in around 60 runs. I know you’re meant to start again from the beginning, but somehow I wish there was a better way to tackle the final boss and learn the moves without having to run the whole game every single time
It's hard... But it give a super santisfying feeling when you beat it 😊😊
I want some of these old contact in the new dc because it's kinda "easy" maybe because I'm mobile idk
Imagine trying to use the wrecking ball or oven axe if they existed back then
survival was basically unplayable back then
Back then I wasnt able to beat 4 BC and now I recently played again I did beat BC4 and 5 first try without any problems. Its not piss easy, but its rather nicely balanced I would say.
Okay so it WASN'T just me, Dead Cells actually used to be a f***ing slog 😂🤣🤣 I played this game a few years ago and, despite really wanting to love it, I just couldn't stand how long it took to make any progress towards power scaling. I've never been a fan of roguelikes, but the aesthetics, art style, and snappy gameplay of Dead Cells really drew me in. I played for about 15 hours, and haven't touched it since. Guess I'll download it again (on PS4 this time instead of Switch) and see if I enjoy it any more than I did before!
I love Dead Cells but honestly it feels like a chore even now if you're not in the mood. I've got to 5BC right before the update that removed double weapons in the same button. Never got to unlock every weapon, never even seen the shipwreck, after getting to 5BC I've never manager to even see the hand of the king.
I'm getting back to it eventually but parry timing still feels off to me, can't get it right to save my life. Even though I get every scroll and I did grind the forge on the old hellish requirements, I always feel weak fighting bosses.
If I were to wait for myself to defeat the spoiler boss before watching Vee videos I'd just never watch any, ever.
PS: I think we should have a weapon unlock list in-game telling you how to get them. The secret behind getting them is pointless if you can see it online and there's a lot of crap like the Oil Grenade I didn't even bother trying after some time because it drops on maps I avoid.
That's why I was so happy they added the ability to lower enemy damage and health in the options. Game went from unbearable and unfun to playable again.
ahhhhh
thats why ı got oblitrated 2-3 years ago
thanks god ı can finally finish it
this is the first version i ever beat
I played this version before the present game so when i get the present game i got to the throne rome easy
Veedotme: make a list on what you think made the game hard u wont get half of them
Me a 1.1 mobile player : The game was hard?
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I wish arbiters were on like 1 more map and or had their omni directional attacks cause they're chumps in current patch in my opinion
I started crying when you said it used to be harder
Bruh I dunno bout that one. Cleared 0BC on my second run ever 2 years or some back. Stopped after that.
Recently got into Dead Cells again. At something like 20 runs. Still haven't beat 0BC... :(
Though to be fair I am rying out all kinds of shit right now whereas back then I try harded and rushed the shit outta it all.
I don't think it's been changed much, but I have clips of some absolutely whack hitboxes that I'm really not a fan of.
Oh so that's why I bounced off the game after beating 0 BC when I used to play it near release
Even with all this said i still had a way easier time beating the game before they nerfed the hell out of items. I used to like the Electric whip and it's not nearly as good now.
The density was awesome. I think the shop prices were fixed at 1.9. it took a lil while tho. Good vid player
Recovery looks kinda better in comparison to today
I am pretty sure Recovery was designed to work in this old environment, where you WILL trigger it almost all the time.
What is the little blue hand icon bottom right?
And wait I just saw you can press a button to destroy HoTK flags? Can you do that in modern? I never noticed before lol
Lastly, imo clean cut update made the game harder. The new update thats going to come out is also going to make the game harder. Only been playing for a year ish I think so not really familiar with any updates before that.
That is old killstreak icon
@@M1K0G3ah should have realized from the placement. It just looks so different and out of place. I thought it was a mutation specific mechanic maybe. Thanks for the answer.
Ah yes, old dead cells. Back when the sparta boots didn't have a combo. There were no cross overs with other games yet. You could stack "-10% damage" with necklaces and items. And running brutality after 2BSC was completely unviable. Tactics items didn't have a range you had to stay in, so you tossed them down and hid to deal with the hoards enemies. Malaise was even in 2BSC if memory serves me right. Good times. I would say new dead cells is easier because the game is more balanced. Still challenging, but also, I came back to the game to go from stuck playing at 2BSC but having the 3rd, to playing on 4 like its no big deal, and perfecting timekeeper, HotK, and conjunctivitis. I already had the perfect Concierge, garb sported by the lowliest of achievers.
Nah, rampager plus demolisher look legitimately nice in comparison with this bullshit
i have absolutely no idea what you're talking about even though i'm indeed playing this game for a long time now.
so yes, tips are very welcome.
First ahd foremost, this video essay was very fun to watch for me at least and I think you cooked. Now..
SO MANY BOMBERS!
it was tough but i'm glad to hear people like it
@@Veedotme I'm glad you did what you did.
the game was ok, when you unlocked 2bc on your 250-300+ run, not on 3rd
goat
So back when I played it wasn’t a skill issue
it wasnt bro, you either broke the game with hokutos bow or ice shards or died
I feel like this is for every game, we might be just getting better I guess.
No way I’m the 100th viewer
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Man I miss old dead cells, the game we have now is kiddie
I can say that modern bosses are much harder I cannot beat those endgame womens without no hitting them, LITERALLY.
AND THEY SAY, "GO TALK TO THAT GIRL, THE WORST THING SHE CAN SAY IS NO."
The Queen wasn't so difficult if compared to her 3 guards, at least for me.
So you actually had to play the game to win. Interesting.
You're a great player and I enjoy your content, but your vids are too long IMO.
Hi there, if you mean explainer vids like this there are a lot of points to cover and examples to show. I'd hate to cut out a point but maybe you saw a moment here that didn't build onto the story?
If you mean gameplay vids, 1 full run of Dead Cells is 1.5 hours irl time. To cut those below 30 minutes would remove a lot of the gameplay and decision making I used to win. If you have an example of a youtuber posting these action roguelikes with shorter videos, I'd love to see them 👍🏾
Dead Cells is nothing but a random spastic button mash game. Dying is completely random in these type of gaymes.
No you just suck at it. Skill is most definitely involved in killing things.
Grind that 0bc and you can make it. 😉
Skill issue