I have to say $199 is pretty steep at a first glance, but I think that the peace of mind knowing that you're preventing a possible catastrophic and expensive failure makes it more than worth it. Just ordered mine.
When we first talked about doing it, we thought about having them made in china, but wanted to have the best product we could, so we had them engineered and manufactured right here in the USA. Quality goes waaaay up, but unfortunately, the price does as well. Needless to say, it's an incredible insurance policy for the cost!
@@KiesMotorsports So I could use this instead of the full crank hub wtih 4 pins replacement? I have to replace my stock turbos because I'm having noise issues with them. My BMW dealer told me I need new turbos (just out of warranty, 4yr and only 16K miles!). they do make a loud rattle noise on start and when I cross a certain rpm range. I figured I could upgrade to something better like PureTurbos or Vargas GC since stock turbos are 6K for the pair anyway. But after doing research, I found out about the crank hub issue with the S55, especially on higher HP modified cars and that scares me. Any advice?
Bryan.. my namesake. I love you mate. I’ve been following you since you were just getting started. I love the spirit, the tenacity, the humility and the way you just look out for our community! You rock on dude! Just wanted to leave you this message in the hope that it brightens up your day a bit! Much love from Singapore.
Nour do you remember you went to do the crank cup on your m4? So this seal is it better to do rather then the crank cup you did or both? The crank cup and seal? Which one?
Removing the fan is super easy (atleast on the n55) and it gives a lot more room to work with..did it for my oil cooler housing and filter gasket. Getting my pulleys and belt tomorow , might wait for the crank seal thing and then tackle tbis job, I’m at 130k
That happened to me. 335i stick shift. Belt went inside my engine and it went all the way down to the oil tank, eventually got stuck into the filter funnel. Huge mess. I bought all the parts and fixed it myself. About 4 days by myself. Changed the head engine gasket as well since you have to open it up. I didn't add that cover since I didn't know about but I learned to keep the belt checked and dry. You can't go wrong with that. It takes some patient to work on that of you don't have a lifter. Thank you for you video. I also have am m4 and I have to install the hub crank myself since ppl are scared of that major flaw bimmer engineers messed up. I love bimmers and own 5 of them but damn. They are turning into a huge pain in the ass.
Awwwww MAN I cannot wait to get my cars to you guys. I'm waiting for parts now for my F82. Have a G82 on order I'm in Delaware, but Kies is the ONLY place I trust tuning my Ms.
first problem i ever had with my N55 was the belt getting sucked into the crank case. luckily the guys over at turner motorsports were able to get all the pieces out of the oil pan and the engine wasn't broken. definitely got lucky
I will be getting one of these for piece of mind, but in all actuality you shouldn't need one if you make sure to keep an eye on the condition of your belt, associated components, and make sure to keep oil off the belt.
@@KiesMotorsports ok so the two supporting mods to get for reliability are the crank hub kit and the crank seal guard upgrade. 👍 Thanks 🙏 for the informative parts review.
Nice product I had my belt come off due to ps bolts coming loose on my N54. I was fortunate it happened at start up not under load got the belt chunks behind pulley with a pick tool.
I don’t know how this was accomplished without removing the fan and fan shroud. I tried for hours and it is really difficult. Once the fan shroud was removed (which is also a bit of a pain especially if you have a 6AT) it was simple access. One note do not drop you harmonic balancer/crank pulley like I did and take a chip out of it as it is $500-600 for a new one…
Installed on my M235i, i ended up removing the fan for easier access. Also put my GoPro down there and cast to my phone to see the 8 bolts and tigten in sequence. The bolts for the guard are different than on the video. They are round with a hex head. I could not get the socket to fit and definately nonroom for my torque wrench. I had to tighten using an allen wrench. 22ish NM without a wrench.
Very important to answer if crank seal guard interferes with crank bolt capture? We all know N54/N55/S55 have another catastrophic flaw with the crank hub, and aftermarket crank bolt capture is critical to have.
recently just got a 13 355i, plan on doing all the belt stuff, plugs ex... including this little easy part to install for piece of mind. But has no one made a Balancer with a larger lip so it couldn't ride off? Regardless thanks for all the videos. I have learned A LOT in 3 days lol. cheers.
Excellent idea! Does anyone know if this would fit the N52/N51? I believe the front crank seal/hub design is the same as the N54. If it fits I have 3 cars that will likely need them, thanks!
Change you oil filter gasket make sure no oil leaks on the belt and change the belt also if you don’t have the money to buy the crank seal I bought my one for my n55 I need to put it on just in case tho but yeah do preventative maintenance on your BMW
Hello @KiesMotorsports , I have a stock F80 M3 CS from 2018. I don't plan on modding it, it's a daily drive car, not for track, sometimes more aggressive on highways with some down shifts. Should I be worried about crank hub? Cheers
Hi mate, Love watching your videos, they are explained perfectly, i need your help pls, my S55 M4 engine is leaking oil from valve cover gasket, its not heavy or dripping, you can just smell it sometimes.. do you have a video on how to do it DIY, if not could you do one or explain if its possible to do as DIY, i have most tools that are required, thanks in Advance, any help would be appreciated
Hmm, interesting. You make all these installs look so easy and the N55 content is always appreciated. You ever going to get a KIES South West Florida going? let me know ;-)
$200??? BMW would be proud. Definitely buying one though, looks like it has a very high quality to it, and $200 is a small price to pay versus a $4k rebuild. Nice work!
My n54 did just that. Dropped the pan to clean it which is a pricy job. Wasn’t good enough and spun a bearing. Torn between getting a 440 and an m4 right now
I am debating on doing this... should i wait until i need to do the OFHG? My 15 335i only has 28k miles currently.... also do you sell a 3.5 bar tmap sensor? don't see it on the site, and any chance of getting more Dongles in stock for bimmercode/bm3 seems like the main one is out of stock.
Is it recommended we install a Crank Bolt Capture for a N55 while installing the crankshaft cover? I heard a Crank Bolt Capture is recommended for a S55 engine.
No need to remove the fan, especially since the coolant lines get in the way. Underneath does give you better positioning when locking in the guard and starting the bolts on the harmonic balancer.
@@FritzRamos is it mandatory to remove the tensioner? When I replaced it the bolts seemed somewhat stripped so I don’t really want to take it off again
I have to say $199 is pretty steep at a first glance, but I think that the peace of mind knowing that you're preventing a possible catastrophic and expensive failure makes it more than worth it. Just ordered mine.
When we first talked about doing it, we thought about having them made in china, but wanted to have the best product we could, so we had them engineered and manufactured right here in the USA. Quality goes waaaay up, but unfortunately, the price does as well. Needless to say, it's an incredible insurance policy for the cost!
@@KiesMotorsports You made the right choice. I couldn't be happier.
@@KiesMotorsports Made in the USA? good stuff more people have to start giving jobs to Americans not dirt cheap shoddy labor from China
@@KiesMotorsports So I could use this instead of the full crank hub wtih 4 pins replacement? I have to replace my stock turbos because I'm having noise issues with them. My BMW dealer told me I need new turbos (just out of warranty, 4yr and only 16K miles!). they do make a loud rattle noise on start and when I cross a certain rpm range. I figured I could upgrade to something better like PureTurbos or Vargas GC since stock turbos are 6K for the pair anyway. But after doing research, I found out about the crank hub issue with the S55, especially on higher HP modified cars and that scares me. Any advice?
199 or 1099?
Can't believe you manage to do this job without removing the fan, good dexterity, good job.
That small wrench is clutch! lol
Bryan.. my namesake. I love you mate. I’ve been following you since you were just getting started. I love the spirit, the tenacity, the humility and the way you just look out for our community! You rock on dude! Just wanted to leave you this message in the hope that it brightens up your day a bit! Much love from Singapore.
Fantastic work guys, LOVE seeing you directly develop your own products that are superior to the rest of the market! Well done!
Thank you!
I was promoting the heck out of this, HELL YEA!!! Ima need one of these for all my cars 😂
Nour do you remember you went to do the crank cup on your m4? So this seal is it better to do rather then the crank cup you did or both? The crank cup and seal? Which one?
@@PureGamingpro For S55 engine in the M4 the Crank Hub is more prone to failure, N55/N54 is where this problem is most prevalent.
What an awesome prophylactic! An inexpensive way to prevent very bad things from happening to my N55! Guess this makes Kies the Walgreens for my BMW!
I had this problem twice on my n54! Definitely a must have!!
Removing the fan is super easy (atleast on the n55) and it gives a lot more room to work with..did it for my oil cooler housing and filter gasket. Getting my pulleys and belt tomorow , might wait for the crank seal thing and then tackle tbis job, I’m at 130k
That happened to me. 335i stick shift. Belt went inside my engine and it went all the way down to the oil tank, eventually got stuck into the filter funnel. Huge mess.
I bought all the parts and fixed it myself. About 4 days by myself. Changed the head engine gasket as well since you have to open it up. I didn't add that cover since I didn't know about but I learned to keep the belt checked and dry. You can't go wrong with that.
It takes some patient to work on that of you don't have a lifter.
Thank you for you video.
I also have am m4 and I have to install the hub crank myself since ppl are scared of that major flaw bimmer engineers messed up.
I love bimmers and own 5 of them but damn. They are turning into a huge pain in the ass.
Just ordered and received mine! Great quality build
Where can I order Mina? I was searching in the website but i haven’t found it yet. Can you help me with this please?
Very nice tutorial! Harmonic balance piece is the toughest part because you are shooting in the dark with the E10s.
You guys are awesome ! With the install videos ! ❤
Blessing us BMW enthusiasts as always. Hope you, the family, and the Kies crew are all well my man!
Wow. This is one of the steps to make a bulletproof engine. Nicely done
Awwwww MAN I cannot wait to get my cars to you guys. I'm waiting for parts now for my F82. Have a G82 on order I'm in Delaware, but Kies is the ONLY place I trust tuning my Ms.
Your videos are so much better now than when you first started. I think you sold me on this belt exclusion device for the harmonic balancer.
first problem i ever had with my N55 was the belt getting sucked into the crank case. luckily the guys over at turner motorsports were able to get all the pieces out of the oil pan and the engine wasn't broken. definitely got lucky
Did you have a leaky ofhg
Quality product and quality video per Kies standard.
I saw the quality and fell in love!!!!
SHARP THATS A GOOD LOOKING PART YOU GOT THERE BOY
Awesome! Going to order one right now, as well as the crank bolt capture.
Made that look easy! Especially with the fan still in. Definitely getting this! Thank you 🙌🏼
Clever neon light bar mounting off the hood :)
These look good! big help to those that tend to overlook or choose to ignore oil leaks 😅
Absolutely awesome piece of kit Bryan 👍👍🇬🇧🇬🇧
Wow I’m about to build a n55 out of the car and I didn’t even think about this until you took off the balancer
Will this work for the N52 engine?
Mate that’s sick !
COVID?
How can one thumb down a video like this? Thank you, Bryan. This is good stuff.
I will be getting one of these for piece of mind, but in all actuality you shouldn't need one if you make sure to keep an eye on the condition of your belt, associated components, and make sure to keep oil off the belt.
Ordered!! Wow thanks Brian 😌
Damn, this guard thing that u made, amazing, respect for that. Really, when ill have my bmw , definatelly gonna buy it
Thanks!
@@KiesMotorsports ok so the two supporting mods to get for reliability are the crank hub kit and the crank seal guard upgrade. 👍 Thanks 🙏 for the informative parts review.
Nice product I had my belt come off due to ps bolts coming loose on my N54. I was fortunate it happened at start up not under load got the belt chunks behind pulley with a pick tool.
Did u install this?
You definitely unlocked an achievement for getting those 8 screws out without dropping any
Ha, VICTORYYYYYYYY
I'm getting this, It's very important.
Ordering this very soon thanks!
I don’t know how this was accomplished without removing the fan and fan shroud. I tried for hours and it is really difficult. Once the fan shroud was removed (which is also a bit of a pain especially if you have a 6AT) it was simple access. One note do not drop you harmonic balancer/crank pulley like I did and take a chip out of it as it is $500-600 for a new one…
Can this be add to N52?
Can this be installed with a CRANK BOLT CAPTURE Kit?
Installed on my M235i, i ended up removing the fan for easier access. Also put my GoPro down there and cast to my phone to see the 8 bolts and tigten in sequence. The bolts for the guard are different than on the video. They are round with a hex head. I could not get the socket to fit and definately nonroom for my torque wrench. I had to tighten using an allen wrench. 22ish NM without a wrench.
Why does you site not list it for n54 or e series?
I was wondering the same thing
Very important to answer if crank seal guard interferes with crank bolt capture? We all know N54/N55/S55 have another catastrophic flaw with the crank hub, and aftermarket crank bolt capture is critical to have.
Was there an answer to this
can do a video for n47 f30 engine crank pulley replacements?
Make one for the N52
doesnt need it
Its nice having the engine out of the car to work on!! 👍
Awesome work. Curious how do you initially learn the torque spec for all the bolts?
Can you have this guard and a crank bolt capture?
recently just got a 13 355i, plan on doing all the belt stuff, plugs ex... including this little easy part to install for piece of mind. But has no one made a Balancer with a larger lip so it couldn't ride off? Regardless thanks for all the videos. I have learned A LOT in 3 days lol. cheers.
Maybe I missed it in the video but can we reuse the harmonic balancer bolts?
Cmon, make one for the n52!
totally different engine
Unfortunately I didn't do this and now I'm up for a complete rebuild or replacement on my n55 in my 435i. It hurts
Does not fit the N54, I had to get it machined by a local shop, however, great quality but I don't recommend getting if you have an N54.
Excellent idea! Does anyone know if this would fit the N52/N51? I believe the front crank seal/hub design is the same as the N54. If it fits I have 3 cars that will likely need them, thanks!
Does this also help prevent crank pulley wobble?
Daum he made that look easy...
Good information 👍🏻👍🏻
Will this apply for the b58 engine as well in the market for a n55 or b58
So I have a 70k 5 series and the engineers at bmw couldn't come up with this on their own?
Glad I have the N47 diesel.. I can fit at least 1 dead body around the engine. So much easier to work on.
Realy make it look easy.
What is the metallurgy of the supplier bolts?
is there any eta to the restock on these? been keeping an eye on it for a min but haven't seen them in stock
What about N52 engine ?
the belt can walk off, simply monitor and change the belt and tensioner
so basically the oil filter housing/cooler lines or upper radiator hose could leak onto the belt and cause it to walk off?
Yep, that's exactly what happens
Dumb question, but is the engine salvageable if the Crank hub spins?
Hi! Great content. Did you reused the harmonic balancer bolts?
Will it work on all e90s? Like n51, n52?
Your expertise is amazing
What about n52 will guard fit
Would you know if the newest BMW models are equipped with some kind of guard, like yours? Or not?
Thats a 👍 idea.. Pretty cool bro
Had to remove the fan but got it done 😂😅
Nice video!
Thanks!
Nice, thanks man
Thanks!
Change you oil filter gasket make sure no oil leaks on the belt and change the belt also if you don’t have the money to buy the crank seal I bought my one for my n55 I need to put it on just in case tho but yeah do preventative maintenance on your BMW
Hello @KiesMotorsports , I have a stock F80 M3 CS from 2018. I don't plan on modding it, it's a daily drive car, not for track, sometimes more aggressive on highways with some down shifts. Should I be worried about crank hub? Cheers
Does this help prevent the crank hub from spinning??
I’m looking for an N54 version. What makes it no longer compatible 😢
Does the vargos spin lock
Solution fix this problem?
Hi mate, Love watching your videos, they are explained perfectly, i need your help pls, my S55 M4 engine is leaking oil from valve cover gasket, its not heavy or dripping, you can just smell it sometimes.. do you have a video on how to do it DIY, if not could you do one or explain if its possible to do as DIY, i have most tools that are required, thanks in Advance, any help would be appreciated
Hmm, interesting. You make all these installs look so easy and the N55 content is always appreciated. You ever going to get a KIES South West Florida going? let me know ;-)
Yes he does. I think it really helps to have the engine out of the car. 😂
What’s up Brian I’m from Patterson California and I’m thinking on doing my crank hub any recommendations?
Watched the linked vid first actually lol, i see that we all learned some stuff lol
I have an N54 in my E60 535xi. Your video shows the guard fitting an N54 but your website says it will not fit the N54 in an e-series. Which is true?
$200??? BMW would be proud. Definitely buying one though, looks like it has a very high quality to it, and $200 is a small price to pay versus a $4k rebuild. Nice work!
My n54 did just that. Dropped the pan to clean it which is a pricy job. Wasn’t good enough and spun a bearing. Torn between getting a 440 and an m4 right now
Is there any for the n26 engine
@Kies Motorsports - does this work with an e90 n55 engine?
No, I’m sorry it does not
Honestly I love bmw but these stories make me want to go back and buy an RCF for comfort feeling of no more issues on the car
You’re the best !
Do I have to get new bolts for the pulley or can I reuse the ones I took off???
I am debating on doing this... should i wait until i need to do the OFHG? My 15 335i only has 28k miles currently.... also do you sell a 3.5 bar tmap sensor? don't see it on the site, and any chance of getting more Dongles in stock for bimmercode/bm3 seems like the main one is out of stock.
Does it fit e8x n54? And you should make a blue one !! I want one
Yes!!! Thank you!!!
What if your not leaking oil or coolant and you change your tensioner and belt?
Is it recommended we install a Crank Bolt Capture for a N55 while installing the crankshaft cover? I heard a Crank Bolt Capture is recommended for a S55 engine.
Are they eventually going to come in different colors?
You won’t ever see it, so why does it matter? Lol
How long would you say this takes to do?
Can you not remove the fan to get more room? and do this from under the car? i just bought car last month so wondering?
No need to remove the fan, especially since the coolant lines get in the way. Underneath does give you better positioning when locking in the guard and starting the bolts on the harmonic balancer.
@@FritzRamos is it mandatory to remove the tensioner? When I replaced it the bolts seemed somewhat stripped so I don’t really want to take it off again
Hi Bryan! I need one and try to order but it seems like you are not sending to Sweden? We have lots of BMW here :-)