Stop Using Miniature Paints NOW!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ธ.ค. 2022
- Everyone loves a good hobby paint. We paint all our minis for 40k in citadel vallejo or army painter, but what if we had another option?
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Golden Fluid Acrylic set (more useful than the one featured): amzn.to/3Fr7wPy
Golden Primary colors:
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Red: amzn.to/3XTBx1r
Yellow: amzn.to/3umY7C7
Magenta: amzn.to/3EYhBlz
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▶ Paints featured:
Vallejo Acrylics starter set: amzn.to/3uoWOTa
Golden Fluid Acrylic set (more useful than the one featured): amzn.to/3Fr7wPy
Golden Primary colors:
cyan/blue: amzn.to/3F2r9ff
Red: amzn.to/3XTBx1r
Yellow: amzn.to/3umY7C7
Magenta: amzn.to/3EYhBlz
Black: amzn.to/3urbAci
White: amzn.to/3HanTRO
Burnt Sienna: amzn.to/3gWLpqL
Use a dry pallet , or even a pop it as a pallete. You can also buy little bottles and shaker balls and pre mix a larger quantity. Also so flat is the matte line. But you can all your spray a matte varnish.
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You should try oil paints. The work flow is better in my opinion. Especially when you work Alla Prima (Wet on Wet) and the miniature is the secondary palette. Also you can put paint on and start a blend, make dinner and finish that blend 2 hours later.
Thanks for this. I got my first set of miniatures and was looking into what I needed. Found myself very confused why no one was mentioning using artist paints. I have hundreds of dollars worth of artist acrylics and could not figure out why I seemingly couldn't just use those and not spend even more money on "hobby" paint. This settles me not spending even more money and just using what I already have. I feel like as long as you understand the properties of your artist paints, what you need to add, and how to mix colors, it's actually a better option for some.
Painter here: "miniatures" paints seem to be a joke I don't understand. Add medium or water to artist-grade acrylic paint. Transparency is a plus because the subject is the size of a walnut and it's not an issue to do many thin washes. Done!
Acrylic gouache in the form of Liquitex or Golden "SoFlat" is even a step up from this!
Warning - I am not an artist, the things i am writing are just my own research over the last week:
The thing to keep in mind is artist paint sets are made for mixing.
By mixing a few colours you can make pretty much any colour - for example printers only use Cyan / Magenta / Yellow / Black (and white from the paper itself) and can produce the box art for the minatures you are painting.
Minature paints are just pre-mixed paints.
With some high pigment soft body artist paints and acrylic medium, e.g. liquitex airbrush medium for thinning, you can mix any colour you want to whatever consistency. Use water for washes when you want the paint to stay in recesses.
Minature paints are more of an overpriced convenience item.
If you have the time to learn how to mix paints you'll only need less than 10 paints,
Example Pallete:
Pyrrole Red, Hansa Yello, Ultra marine blue, titanium white, charcoal black
These would be the bare minimium, so you have a red yellow and blue.
Some colours you try to mix will come out muddy.
E.g. if you mix ultra marine blue and yellow it will make a muddy green.
This is because colours tend to be warm or cool and lean towards another colour. You can see if a colour is warm or cool by adding a bit of white.
Since Ultramarine is a warm blue -- it is more reddish -- mixing it with yellow produces a red+blue+yellow = brown.
To get around this you can add cool reds and blues to your pallete, e.g. quinacridone Magenta and phthalo green blue shade.
That way you'll palette will be able to make brighter purples and greens.
Good comment. Thank you :)
I’m a fairly longtime viewer of your main channel, and I also have recently gotten into miniatures, I totally love this content, very informative and entertaining! Keep it up!
Tri-Art Manufacturing out of Canada makes a lot of Fluid acrylics. Great consistency, largest selection of transparent pigments. My paint shelf is now full of Tri-Art, Golden, Holbein, and DaVinci fluid acrylics. I'll never go back to Citadel or Vallejo. I will continue to use the Army Painter Speed Paint Metallics though
Very good video, very relatable thanks keep up the good work
So what paints would you recommend for Necrons?
(I’m planning on creating a custom Necron Dynasty)
Hmm depends if you want to do NMM on them or not. I personally am very bad at NMM. Working on it though. A good metallic primer might be a good start. Paint brand shouldn't matter a lot. Just pick up colors you like and if you want to keep it consistent keep to a single brand (also shoot for dropper bottles over pots IMO). Vallejo has a good starter kit if you are unsure 90% of my paint jobs are done with this set: amzn.to/3uoWOTa
Thank you. I’m a big advocate to mixing my own color. I knew that the high flow were like Vallejo and GW citadel. Cheaper but over quality and qualified paint for miniature. 4.99 for 12ml vs. $-9 for 1oz(29.57ml)
You should try Nova Color paints they are just as fluid and are less expensive than Golden Fluid but just as high if not higher in quality since they make all their paints in small batches. Its a small company that's been making their stuff since the 60's. They mix their own pigment acrylics and they ship out of California, they even have a few bundles, or if you know which colors you already want they sell 4oz bottles for cheap, if you don't know what colors are which you can always get a sample swatch which has the actual paints they mixed, brushed on the paper to show you. A lot of muralist in LA use them and I have personally used them when I work on my paintings.
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Soflat paint by golden blows for minis it applies horribly even if thinned. Flow from them might be worth something but I'm going pro acryl now. Maybe one day I'll look into the flow series by golden but not atm.
You should try ak interactive's enamel paints they have worked Well for me
HAHAHAHA my art instructor mentioned 'cheating' at model painting night by bringing her golden fluid paint. Glad you caught on.
I hate the smell of acrylic paint retarder. Try using Golden's Open line of paint, which is preformulated to slow dry. Consistency is a (very) soft body, not fluid, but you miniature painters might actually enjoy it, and if not add water/medium
I've never tried it, but Golden Fluid is also supposed to be fine enough to go through a mister bottle, we were talking about improvising one to replace those paint airbrush things you guys use ;)
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golden paints sound like scale 75 artist line. They also use single pigments but these have a matt finish.
Yeap! Scale 75 is doing exactly that with the artist line. I need to get my hands on some to try it.
could you mix lets say YOUR ORK GREEN and put in a dropper bottle for use when you need it? Grab you some SOFLAT by the same brand your using.. you'll LOVE EM! Also invest in some INKS, you can use them to help tint your other paints, and make washes.
Holbein Acrylic Gouache (it's the water proof line and cheaper than the true gouache)
Army painter is a decent brand to pick up, they have some fairly good metallics, their speed paints are pretty good, and I prefer their white over Citadel’s white (because it sucks), on top of that the paints are cheaper at $3 or so a bottle
Army Painter is bottom of the barrel paint.
@trisbane4086 That was true but is no longer the case with the new line.
In the UK, on Amazon....10 x 30ml paints = £93.99....a touch on the pricey side of the hobby!!
light fastness is why the pictures of hamburgers in the window of the DQ look blue.
I use dollar tree paints and i have no issues with them
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The title doesn't make sense since. Aren't the paints you're promoting miniature paints?
Golden is painters paint. It doesn't have some of the properties that you get in a miniature paint. I think it gets confused for mini paint from the branding though. For example game color from vallejo has a varnish which will keep the paint from rubbing off with repeat touching. These paints lack that so you need to varnish it. texture wise it's not like mini paint either.
I cant get most of these hobbypaints where I live, I do have a "local" brand available everywhere, AMSTERDAM acrylic. Not the best, most certainly not already in a color to be used for models/minis but its usable when randomly mixing a lot of shit together. Though, I can get Citadel paints, only i dont know how long those'll last in comparison to 20ml acrylics.
Bottles just last longer than pots I did look Amsterdam acrylic up. They do meet like all the art standards you'd need. So I wouldn't worry about what we can buy here in the states. Could always try putting citadel in a bottle? It does say the Amsterdam acrylics are heavy body so I imagine you need medium or something to thin it down on a mini. They have cool effects paints though!
@@manapotiontabletop Ah, alright. I know about having to thin the paints, only i hadn't read up on why a retarder / similar paint thinner would be that much better than just adding water, till you covered it in this video. I currently basically have an empty cola bottle with tapwater and whenever I need to thin the smallest amounts of paint, I just try to slightly get some droplets down (I'm completely fucked if I end up having poured too much water. Gotta go over the same part 30 times before the paint sticks)
@@GENERAALBRYAN Yeah water can make it a bit difficult. Medium will make it thinner without loosing vibrancy it also won't separate if you use to much. Use retarder if you find it dries fast. They have those for the Amsterdam acrylics. So hopefully it can make it easier. These paints should last longer than any citadel pot anyway. So for sure ask you art store what they have. There might be a regular artists sized wet pallete too so you don't need to be married to the hobby brands.