Londoniyyah - Part 10 - Proofs of God's Existence / 2 | Mohammed Hijab
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- Londoniyyah - Part 9 - Proofs of God's Existence / 2 | Mohammed Hijab
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Bro’s our here dropping complex philosophy whilst drinking a Capri sun 😂
Did you understand anything he said.
With the paper straws
Complex?
*Timestamps:*
0:00 - Introduction
0:11 - Topic of the video
0:51 - Proposition of the Contingency Argument
2:24 - Contentions to the Argument
3:09 - Reply to the contention
4:04 - Proof 1
5:05 - Composition Fallacy & using multiple arguments
11:11 - Proof 2
15:14 - Proof 3
18:39 - Proof 4
21:07 - Proof 5
24:44 - How do you arrive at the 1st Premise in Proof 1
26:08 - Proving the universe began to exist
27:27 - Argument 1 for Oneness of Necessary Existence
30:25 - Argument 2 for Oneness
38:52 - Argument 3 for Oneness
45:03 - Closing Statements
SUBHANALLAH ❤️🤍❤️
_May Allah ﷻ bless and reward you for your efforts._
MashaAllah, great lecture. I can conclude that these are easy concepts which we unfortunately have to explain in such complexity.
- If there are two gods than one will dominate each other (Quran 23:91)
- Since everything needs space and time, who is maintaining space and time? - Contingency argument simplified
Jazakallah to brother Hijab for providing us such high quality and informative lectures for free
5 - 1 = 4
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And the other people in their circle like Saboor and the Jichan the Greek guy and all other brothers that I don't know the name of
You have no idea. You can’t fathom the good you’re doing brother. It may not seem like it now, but Wallah you’re doing work that will be passed down for generation educating and empowering the muslim generations.❤️. A big and warm thanks to everyone at sapience!
Please continue these serious. Wallahi I am learning more from these than all your videos. Please continue through many Key Philosophical topics
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You are really a patient person. May Allah make you strong and remind you when he lifts the obstacles from your life.
May God make ease for you and guide you to the straight path. May God help you. Ameen.
Sister ,keep calm and keep self reflecting and have a desire and voluntary quest for truth....much more props to you keep the faith and look into Islam
You are really in a very painful condition, just ignore all those animals in the form of humans they'll too find themselves in a similar situation Insha Allah then they'll get to know, please keep going things might not change for a long time but eventually it will insha'Allah, please Read Qura'an a few verses daily.
The best thing you can do is to buy Mohammed Hijabs books read them at first, and mark the things you did not understand. Then watch all his videos. You enjoy them 5 times more i swear.
because he uses the examples he writes about in his book. really cool.
Which book? Because his Kalam cosmological book is too difficult to comprehend for me
@@dr_maniac_321I think its ‘The Burhan’
You and your everyone else at Sapience Institute are brilliant. May Allah reward you for your efforts.
Would love to have a pdf at least of the Mandhooma/rhyme of Londoniyyah...
I do have. Query that arguments you are making for universe that it is contingent why can't you say same argument for God.
Because technically no can one say with full audacity that god is made of peices or not cause we don't know that much about God.
We need the poem pdf
I LOVE THIS COURSE SO MUCH
I cant get the part-whole differentiation thing. If we say that part is a piece then how can we detach something from the universe? Or on a scientific basis, someone might argue that it can only change forms as energy is not created or destroyed?
Jazaakumullaahu khairan, baarakallaahu fiikum.. Brother Hijab and Team..
Anyone from Indonesia here ?
Amazing! 👏 jazakallah khayran
Again, another tremendous and striking episode.
Where can I find the slides ?
Rational arguments for the proof of God’s existence are covered in the basic Ashari texts & commentaries .. , but there’s a need to represent them to a modern context .. I’m glad Mohamed Hijab and Hamza tzortis are reclaiming our heritage from modern Christian theologians .
What heritage ? Abrahamic religion has no association with Islam 😂
@@brotheraskedaverygoodquest3442 I'm talking about the likes of William Lane Craig, Plantinga, and other Modern Christian philosophers, and their use of arguments stemming from the Islamic Tradition.
Equal triangle doesn't have 180degrees lolol
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Excellent mashaAllah
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39:29 I think i have a much stronger argument:
Suppose that we have ultimate will 1 and ultimate will 2 call it uw1 and uw2 respectively we have 2 cases:
1) uw1#uw2 (# means different)
2)uw1=uw2 (= means exact same)
Suppose 2) then we are already done. Since there cannot be any differentiating factor. And uw1=uw2 that the 2 ultimate entities are actually the same entity therefore there is really 1 ultimate entity. I can give an example of the absurdity of the negation of my statement: Negating my statement is very much saying that rock is actually 2 rocks but they have the exact same properties. Which is absurd.
now suppose 1) That this means that whatever uw1 willed will happen and whatever uw2 willed will happen.
a) If the thing they willed is about the same contingent existence then that contingent existence is itself and not itself ( for example uw1 willed the rock to be solid and uw2 willed the rock to be liquid than the rock is solid and liquid which makes it a contradiction)
b) if the thing they willed are about different contingent existence aka they "work" synchronised. Then:
b-I)uw1 did not will a thing to happen therefore it wont happen that uw2 willed it to happen so it will happen therefore that thing that uw2 willed is in both existence and in unexistence which is a contradiction
b-II) uw1 and uw2 agreed that the respective thing unwilled by the corresponding ultimate will, will be existing by the will of the other corresponding ultimate will
So basically they willed what they didn't will to happen which is a contradiction. I hope someone understands what i said.
Salam alai’kul
Can someone give me a very easy to understand analogy of the contingency arguments? Thanks
@ 29:26 Why does the differentiating factor of God2 make Him contingent?
Probably the best hadith you ever hear 🤯
Aws bin Aws narrated:
Allah's Messenger said to me:
"Whoever performs Ghusl on Friday, and
bathes completely, and goes early,
arriving early, gets close and listens and
is silent, there will be for him in every
step he take the reward of a year of
fasting and standing (in prayer).
At-Tirmidhi (496)
Sahih hadith
Selam Alaykum brother. Why can't a necessary existence be any other way?
The best take is that we are prisoners of language ان هي الا اسماء سميتموهاانتم و اباءكم ما انزل الله بها من سلطن language is an immense collection of signifiers bringing about non-identity. The produced object is thought materialised and it retroactively constitute the imaginary character of the subject. Hence when Quran says يوم يكشف عن ساق it involves a constitutive inadequacy, misrepresentation of the inner in the outer, which should inaugurate alienated subjectivity that would do more than just interpret the world
JazaakAllahu Khairan for this gem of a series
Finally!!! Been itching for this
Wa'alaikum assalaam wa rehmatu'LLAHI wa barakatuh
first❤
May Allah bless Mohammed Hijab. I have one question you said in the previous video that Allah’s knowledge and will are necessary (meaning everything is done by these necessary attributes cannot be other way around) the universe is made by Allah with these attributes. But in the proof 2 you said anything can be rearranged is contingent (depent) things.
Question, if Allah made the universe with His necessary attributes, so universe could not have been in another way. Does it contradict the proof 2 you provide?
Yes the universe could not have been in another way shape or form but that is because we are referencing God in our belief. The universe still remains contingent as it is rationally rearrangeable but out of the trillions of possible combinations God chose this specific ones based on his absolute knowledge and wisdom. The atheist cannot say that the universe couldn't have been in another way as he does not have a necessary being to reference but we do
Wa'alaikum assalaam wa rehmatu'LLAHI wa barakatuh
16:40 we are not talking about the ladies here hahaha
baraka'allah fik br hijab blessing us with another lecture
Great evidence hijab
Wa alaykum asalam wa rahmatulahi wa barakatu
Jazak ALLAH brother
is that AlI dawah?
Jazakallahu khairan
Awsome
ما شاء الله Mashallah
❤
The fact that you couldn’t give an example of what of what is necessary shows that God Is the only necessary being
If there is a necessary being, it is not Allah
@@markorbit4752 A necessary being can't be anything but Allah. That's the whole gimmick you do not understand. Because a necessary being has certain attributes we can deduce rationally, Ever-Lasting, Omnipotence, Omniscience, First, One and Only etc ... and those are exactly the attributes of the God we worship. You wanna call it Allah as He call Himself in his revelation, good. Wanna call him God, Dieu, Gott, Elohim, Allaha, YHWH, the concept remains the same. Unfortunately for our christian friends, the trinitarian belief is in direct confrontation to rational thinking, hence why they disagree with using the word Allah. If you go to unitarian arabophone christians, they have no qualms using this nomination.
@@Ersilay all the attributes/ adjectives you are using are just an attempt by you to define this concept of a necessary being and give it the attributes which you think are logical..do you understand what I am saying?
@@markorbit4752 No. Because you are assuming the logical path we take to rationaly deduce the existence of God is us presuposing a God with certain qualities and inducing a path from that perspective. If you saw the video we're currently commenting on, it's the opposite. If Mohammed Hijab was doing what you're saying, we would have given all 99 names/attributes of God and tried to rationalise it, but he didn't, and we can't.
@@markorbit4752 What you're missing I believe is understanding of the meaning of necessary. Necessary is a quality which entails certain attributes, and other attributes can be deduced from those attributes as derivative reasoning.
Necessary = unchanging. If something was changing, it wouldn't be necessary as it would entail what depends upon it doesn't require it in its entirety to be necessary.
If it's unchanging, then it must be eternal, pre- and post-existing. Because otherwise the state of such entity would have changed, from non-existent to existent or other various ways.
Since such entity was always existing, everything that happens have a relation to it (i.e. first cause). It must thus be endowed with omnipotence as It brings rise to all phenomenas. Likewise, it must be Omniscient because every phenomena rose from him in the first place, and all knowledge must come from It.
It can only be One, because otherwise it would contradict the last 2 attributes, i.e. over all things capable and over all things knowledgeable. If there were two Omnipotent, what if one decided for the other to cease to exist and the other wanted to remain existing? It would be a paradox with no answer.
It must have a will to bring rise to phenomenas, otherwise no matter how many attributes this entity has, it will never act upon them, never bringing rise to anything, contradicting the current reality.
Tell me where I superimposed islamic beliefs? I am merely deducing things rationally.
If I was, I'd be arguing for a Just entity, or a loving one, but I can't. I can only understand this aspect through the Entity itself, I can not rationally deduce it. But the basics of the Entity are already laid down, and since there can only be One, once such Entity appear, we as humans can identify easily if It is the necessary being or not by applying what we can rationally deduce. If the boxes are ticked, then everything coming from such Entity must be True because It could very well not communicate at all. If It communicate in the first place, it can not be for It's own sake because It only is necessary, thus unchangeable and does not require depending existences to Be, change, cease to exist to remain the same.
We can go on and on, and this from an axiomatic level, which is purely deductible and rational.
Now tell me again, where exactly is the problem in my reasoning?
Masha ALLAH
AGAIN!!!!
can the contigent existences depend upon each other to exist without necessary existence? For example, a universe depend upon another universe in a multiverse to exist?
No .
No, because you would run into the problem of infinite regress as imam al ghazli put it in his book the incoherence of the philosophers in chapter one
@Naveed-fi7vj if there's 3 universe, A depends on B, B depends on C, and C depends on A. What's the counter argument when someone says, all 3 of them have existed forever?
@@endzeitxthat is a logical impossibility.
@@endzeitxRefutation:
In this chain of dependencies you have mentioned three. Now there is no logical reason to believe that there cannot be more than or less than three dependencies. Which is why even in this case we need a reference to a necessary being which is God himself.
It's just like asking why the universe is the way it is. As it could have been in any other way possible which makes it a logical necessity to believe in a necessary being
Much appreciated
I don't understand you I don't know if this is because I am not at your level or I don't know what but I don't seem to understand you.
To understand u need to have a bit background on certain stuff. Ull get there dw
@@clearlyclearor hahaha
or ahahah....
It's fine, it's not high school level philosophy. If you wanna get it more easily, I invite you to watch the episode 1 by 1 of Londonniya, he goes from the basics to those kind of arguments. It's quite the amazing job that brother Hijab is doing, granted you can understand everything.
Because it’s not Islam it’s just chit chat…only the ignorant think it’s DAWAH…SubhaanAllaah
Simplistic answers for simplistic minds
Great top matches the background and look of the room !
Proofs of God's Existence =
hahaha NOTHING!
You’re Hilarious.
@Número uno Show your 'proof' for a god - and do not use books written by men as proof...
@@hashimmohammed1794 I laugh at your evidence for your gods...
@@briendoyle4680 Did you even attempt to comprehend the video?
@@hashimmohammed1794 Did it prove your god..?.. NO!