Definitely agree the front kick is perfectly lined n n would do serious psych damage cos running onto a teep n seeing their smirk. I just like switch kivk to cross combos so id want another place to do it.
Imho, punishing em for using sound, proper technique is about the only reasonably reliable overall tactic versus a well-rounded opponent. I think Mike said it better than I did, everything else tends to be “reactive” and reliant on their mistakes.
It was great how you labeled the 3 levels. Reacting, Predicting, And Forcing. Then Ignoring would fall somewhere in there, like not falling for what they're trying to do.
Ignoring is probably under predicting and above reacting tbh. You stopped reacting, but you aren't necessarily predicting anything. Just doing what you/your coach want without worrying about your opponent.
It's always fun to see how different people carry themselves, in practices. This guy is like super gentle and polite, even though it's clear he could go much harder (and you wouldn't mind). Wonderboy holds bad enough to let you practice some things you're working on, while still keeping pressure on you. Sensei Seth kicks you in the head, whenever he gets an opening.
As a Judoka, attack by drawing comes somewhat natural as soon as you get into mma, because it's the way you want to go to ensure that you don't spend too much energy.
@@yordiquezada9706 what do you mean applied in Judo? in a Judo or mma match, attacking by drawing could be having your opponent get a certain grip on you (also called "grip baiting" by some people) so you can apply a certain technique that requires them to hold you like that. It can also mean having them push or pull you so you can also apply a technique, this can be done in many ways, like pushing your opponent so he pushes back and then you do a Tai Otoshi (or any forward projection) but i do not know if that counts as attacking by drawing. When there is striking involved (any Aikido person that is watching, please pay attention to this) like in mma, you can also bait them into over commiting to an attack so you can pull them to add to their strength and apply a technique. But how do you bait them into doing this? Easy enough, but you may do it differently when you are in the ring or in a real fight. When trying it in the ring, you must keep yourself at long range at all times, if you opponent tries to get close and attack you, DO NOT JAB HIM (this could discourage them from getting in, and we want them to try!). What you should do is to instantly back down, move backwards, slip backwards, and move around them; may it be by pivoting, karate dashing, or even check hoocking (pivot + hook). This will make them want to get in fast to finally get a good hit on you, and when they do that, *you will be ready* For a real fight, you can have more options as you can try and walk away at any point, which will make your opponent(s) way more aggressive because they will not want you to leave! You must also you voice to try and descalate the situation which will not work, but will have them know that you don't want to fight... *or at least that's what they'll think* You must do the same as in the right, constantly move backwards, but watch your step! You don't want to trip and fall on the ground! If they are slowly walking towards you, then move backwards faster than them, this will make them move faster to catch up to you, if they over commit to an attack while doing this, you can pretty much choose what Judo/Aikido technique you want to use. If they keep moving slowly, you can probably scape, remember that this is assuming that you are not surrounder or cornered and trapped! If so, you must adapt/change your strategy completely!!! Hope this helps
in fighting game terminology this is called a frame trap: where you leave enough of a gap in your offense that your opponent tries to take their turn on offense but in reality there was something else coming that they open them self up for.
This is so rad! I actually did the defensive ABD front kick in jkd sparring a couple days ago and it worked so well! I also use ABD with a long guard in Muay Thai to incentivize my training partners to throw certain punches I know I am good at defending/countering. This is such a cool video; thank you Mike and thank you Tyler for landing in a match for us all to see!
its cool how lomachenko covers one side with high hand the other lowered to draw an attack to roll or slip and pivot to establish lead foot dominance.... basically drawing to one side
100% It's how elite strikers get to become elite. I fully appreciate this method with boxers. Where they come at you with the right distance; a specific punch and body movement where you as the defender or counter-puncher have no choice but to give in to instinct (all the pad training and muscle memory) which in turn gives the attacker what he wants from you, then boom! This is also true in other full contact striking arts/sport. And Mike, that front kick could be trained further to target the liver
I’ve done attack by drawing against a “black belt” in Tang Soo Do. Not that I don’t respect all styles, but all he could do was throw front leg kicks. I taught him how to throw a punch. But besides the point. I would draw him in all the time and spinning back kick him in the stomach and stuff like that. He was also really easy to fight
I've always called it baiting the opponent. Sometimes I toss feints in there in the same category. I also don't know if I agree with not learning by sparring. I've learn a lot about grappling by rolling with wrestlers as a JJJ guy, and grabbing a couple of rubber knives and a couple of Sikh buddies helped me out a lot more with my knife game than any class.
When I was in wrestling, and I had a good idea that I was better than my opponent, I would stick my lead leg farther out, baiting them to try and shoot in on it, and I'd be sprawling back and circling behind in "one" swift movement getting my own takedown before they could do anything about it.
Exactly! It gives you a chance to practice something that you would never feel confident trying to practice against someone your skill level or better.
Icy Mike, phrasing Psychological Warfare as “fighting their mind”, is giving as eloquent/elegant a definition as I can think of (and I’m fucking BRILLIANT, lol).
something i like to do in fencing and sword and buckler fencing is to have my stance bladed with my sword hand to the rear and sword sticking out too (like half a Tpose). i pressure in and when they counter pressure and start walking i swing the svjør’edth in a downwards arc back up to give the stabbo. conversely i can lead with the sword side and have the sword hand resting by the left hip. using the same pressure strategy i then flick the sword coming either from the side or overhead
This is basically jus “give and take” you give ‘em sumn and whatever they return you take (no not take as in taking the hit) it can be a slip and rip it can be a feint side step counter feint pull counter both hands down to bait then step back counter etc.
Best was to play by your own beat instead of theirs: Trust in your speed. Trust in your instincts. Dont be scared to get hit, just mitigate it. Learn how to spill your head gravity to make your body move faster. If you know how to spill your heads gravity in any direction and hop step you really can dodge almost anything even with ur hands down. Unless they are really good at chasing you down, but technically you should be able to beat someone of equal skill that is chasing too much. The hardest thing to do in fighting is resist the flinch. When you are scared and dont know what is comming next so you stop looking and clam up, even for a split second can make you lose. Once you master the flinch you should be able to resist some incredible stuff.
My absolute favourite stuff is to pressure on the ropes and try to get a big whiff like a hook or an overhand then pullback it on reaction and counter and keep repeating untill they get me or slip out of the ropes
Maybe to super train this have 1 guy use 2' feet or 1' foot of pool noodle in each arm and the other guy can only use shoves and teeps and drags. If the pool noodle guy gets 5 hits its round over and see how many teeps, shoves, and drags the other guy can get in before hes tapped by the foam 5 times. Then when you take away the 2' extra feet he should be WAY quicker at capitalizing on a drawing technique. I bet if he gets a good shove in he can get 10+ points against the foams. Can also modify it to where leg kicks are allowed but only teeps, shoves, and drags count for counter points, legkicks are just for setups. I havent tested it just brainstorming
I have a wheel kick set up where I get them to circle towards my back side by throwing side kicks a little bit off towards my front side. They run right into the kick. Would you consider that an offensive attack by drawing technique?
I appreciate the inclusion of the fight itself because that really does help to demonstrate it in a live setting, although I also have to say that I don't think I've ever seen a more telegraphed setup outside of like TV shows. Looked like someone trying and failing to execute some Mortal Kombat move.
Attack by drawing is such a good name for it I've done something similar with a side kick and spinning stuff, don't know why I don't do it with the front kick it
I think if I see someone do a dramatic pause mid dodging im probably going to back up and start neutral invasion stepping forward little by little, try to draw out a leg kick and knee check their kick. Or pretend to be shocked by their pause and wait for them to try to blitz after a pause and do a flying knee at them.
A toe digging into the correct organ to send pain signals to the brain is my favorite kick to throw 💯 my friend and I were sparring and I hit him with it, not hard at all, yet we had to stop sparring for a little bit cause he went to go check if he pooped himself.
My boxing is restriced because of my left arm (its been injured since 2021 may and i DO can use it in a fight or sparring but i can easily dislocate my shoulder again) And im thinking about creating "new" style for myself, when i started training mma i was a fat ass and i was just using my size and range (im 188cm or 6'2) and i got long arms but i always wanted to be quick and like a dynamike i mean dynamite. Any tips? I was thinking about using my left leg as my arm if that makes sense, I'd be really active lead kicker (im left footed so its more comfortable) and i dont really know how to move in southpaw and also i dont wanna put injured arm as power arm Nice video btw have a nice day
Woahh this is really cool, i do tkd tho so i mostly just kick and then if i rlly have to ill punch (their chest bc i not allowed to punch head ) when they expect kick
hey hard2hurt ive played football my entire life and for the past 2 years have being training in kickboxing classes and have found that even though i am right footed and handed i throw kicks allot easier from south paw as well as have a better outside game but dont have the power although i struggle to kick hard from orthodox compared to south paw do you know why this could be i feel balance is worse from orthodox in terms of using my hips
I would do a round kick. When my foot landed back down my back would be facing them, then I would wait a few seconds. Sometimes they come charging in and you can give a strong side kick to the stomach that’ll lay them out
Shouting "attack by drawing!" (good advice though it was) from the corner is pretty funny. How can he succeed at attack by drawing if the opponent heard you call for the trick? Its like shouting at an apprentice magician to "hide the card up your sleeve!" If I know that you know that I know that you know... In any case, since you like the OODA loop concept, you really should check out Edward Luttwak's Strategy: The Logic of Peace and War. You'd like it. The key point is called the "strategic paradox" which says that in competition between two conscious combatants (not "conscious" in the sense of being awake, but in the sense that both entities know that they are in combat and are purposefully trying to figure the other out), the premium on doing the unexpected is incredibly high. So high that doing things that would otherwise be thought of as effective are not effective because they're expected and can therefore be easily countered, even by an opponent of lesser capability. Its basically a military historian with a PhD from the London School of Economics and Johns Hopkins explaining why Roy Jones Jr was great.
That's not how it works at lower levels. A) the other guy is likely not acting on his own corner, let alone his opponents. B) abd is an obscure enough idea that i can guarantee no other beginner from a muay thai gym understands it. Your thoughts are mostly logical, but there is very little logic involved in fighting especially at this level of competition.
I would love to incorporate a lot of self defense techniques into my Muay Thai and my BJJ. It's a complete game changer when it comes to martial arts.💯
My attack by Drawing is to step back - if the guy is angry/aggressive/dangerous he will step forward to attack. I will step back 3 times and on the 3rd time I will step back and while he is stepping forward and has his lead foot in the air and all his weight coming forward - I do a step back / step forward and with my lead foot in the air my fist is on his face with all my weight and all his weight coming forward - so he doesn't stand a chance. Punish his anger/aggression by out thinking him.
Look up Master Bakari "Shackle Hands". He deals exactly with what you're talking about. Now if you're talking about behind your back. Then you have to use your legs and deliver kicks.
@@hard2hurt we've had some cases in my country of people getting handcuffed by home invaders. And in the movies human traffickers always bind your hands with either duct tape, zip ties, or handcuffs (depending on how professional they are)
Falling into the category of determining the rhythm of the fight, and knowing the opponent's tendencies... it requires Absolute Dominance in the first instance, and previous knowledge of the opponent, and/or a super good natural "read" of Kinetics in the second instance (assuming the opponent isn't telegraphing with their eyes). Bruce Lee was, as you know, deeply interested in Physiology; so it makes total sense he'd incorporate a "read" of the opponent's physiology, or Kinetics, into a fight-plan. Even more curious is the Wing Chun, or "INTERCEPTING" fist/kick/whatever quotient... In Combination With... the various feints used in Fencing. Speed-training was crucial to Bruce, he did quite a bit of it... as did Tyson who recognized that "speed kills" ("PUT YOUR MOTHER IN A STRAIGHT JACKET, YOU PUNK ASS WHITE BOY!!!") Simply put, these concepts- even all together- are very simple to understand. In practice however, they only come to fruition after understanding the theory behind them all, each, and through training gaining the ability to combine them all together into one harmonious "idea" through successful execution. Now where Wing Chun comes into play here is that when you "catch" the opponent's attack with your arm, or leg... is your arm or leg going to shift 45 degrees upwards, downwards, or to the side in a single, exceedingly quick well-read motion? This is based on your personal training of techniques, knowing which one makes the most sense to follow through with, in combination with an actual physical reading in real-time (in the form of A Physical Contact). In this video however, Lee's "intercepting fist" portion has been completely replaced with an "Intercepting Attack". The very notion of even intercepting the fist/kick has been completely removed from the equation of possibility. If someone could establish Dominance 100% of the time, determining the rhythm, AND set the opponent up for an instant opening and a strike, Every Single Time... he'd be like Neo in The Matrix. It's good to know that, Theoretically, this can be done. However, in actuality, it's just not possible to succeed 100% of the time. Anyone, like Lee, who happens to venture off into this "nether" zone, my hat is off to you! It's very important to think about. But for most of us: we're not going to get there, or if we do, it's on total accident. I've only had ONE instance, in which I feel I totally "entered the matrix", and it was during a Kendo session. Imagine you're a person forming circle, with 5 other people, and each sword-fighter is as good as you. (Heck, some can be better, and some can even be a little worse). On the word "go!", you all begin to fight, and the winner is the last one not hit. Most times, the person to the direct left or right of you is the immediate threat, and most often they are if not singled-out, are getting double-teamed (including you!) There was just ONE time, in my entire life where I ever stabbed and hit everyone around me in like 4.5 seconds, taking no damage myself. That is, no one else in that circle made even ONE hit on another opponent. I was THE ONLY ONE who did any hitting, and I won super quick. After it happened, not even I- especially me- could believe that it even happened. It was So Fucking Ridiculous, I'm convinced it will never happen again... not just in sword-fighting, but perhaps ever, in anything. In a second I read the physiology of the group, their tendencies, the kinetics of it, the rate/speed (both mine and their own); executing incredibly instinctively based on training. There was "No Thought". I think this level of Perfection is what Bruce was after with training certain concepts like this. But me, I'm lucky to say it happened only ONCE in my life. Even if 100,000,000 other instances were to have occurred since... I don't think any of them would've carried that sort of "Perfection" with it. Everything was Perfect, Absolutely Perfect. Too Perfect to even be real... but it happened. It felt as if time had slowed, or I had complete control over it. It was instantaneous, and Ridiculously Insane. The reactions of every sparring partner, and myself included was total disbelief that it happened. I even feel as if I "wasn't even there", or after it occurred, that it "just happened". I barely even "remember" each blow. It was as if I FELT more than I even SAW with my own two eyes. This level of martial Excellency only passed through me pronouncedly ONCE in my life, and if it could happen ever again, may only occur ONCE again. But the thinking with the masters (especially Shaolin) is that it can happen Every Time. Or it must be aspired to. This was the way Bruce trained. This- his attitude, knowledge of training itself, and his actual dedication to training- is, undoubtedly why people herald his type to be of the greatest martial artists to ever exist. He aspired to, and TRAINED FOR this level of Absolute, Perfect Success. Unlike me, it was a fluke. For someone like Bruce though... it probably happened AT LEAST once a week. I've never told anyone this story before (probably because of how stupid-ridiculous it sounds), and imagine some of you may also have a similar story to share, and I'd like to hear about it as well! But I think I've managed to make it very clear how much Bruce just wasn't your average martial arts practitioner... he was very concerned about getting to this point precisely, and trained for this state of Absolute Mastery. I just hope to have made it clear, so you can really appreciate him and his approach to martial arts even more. He came from "the old school", where it was GUARANTEED; that if you put water on fire, the fire is GUARANTEED to go out. But if you fanned the fire with air, the fire was GUARANTEED to rise up into an inferno. This is the same level of intensity and fervour that was put into it by Miyamoto Musashi and you can see him talking about this in the form of elemental correspondences in his "Book of 5 Rings". I just hope somebody got something beneficial from this long rant, lol
Dope ass video. Id love to see different permutations of this principle especially for setting up knockouts. I’ve been experimenting with drawing people in to add their momentum to my power shots but I’m struggling to land flush due to mismanaging the range.
Well on macro level, tactics are tactics. The overall principle can be applied to a chess match, a boxing match, a gunfight or nuclear war. This principle could be applied to a salary negotiation. It is a higher level concept though, so it may seem difficult to employ with less parameters. On a more digestible level, we are specifically talking about a front kick setup used in the context of a kickboxing match. A huge clue would be that we are talking about a kickboxing match and showing a clip from a kickboxing match. It is the simplest to employ in contexts where you have time and information to determine tendencies and habits of your opponent and parameters that limit the number of surprises.
So.. baiting and punishing? Lol. Well that's the term for fighting games. Same core concepts. Either getting them to waste resources or open up for planned counters and combos. As I was typing this he showed off a wall combo too. Lmao. Perfect.
"I'm basically the same thing as Bruce Lee." An overrated actor who everyone thinks he can do no wrong despite him telling people that he's not perfect and has a crazy cult following that I'm part of? Well that's a surprise, I didn't know you were an actor. *sips tea* Also instructions unclear, drew Mickey Mouse, got punched in the face.
Ooou yeah you can't make a video without hopping around my friend. Let me give you some advice for this cute little kick that you failed at the end. It's called oshirogeri and your knee is supposed to point the flor as well as you foot, not point side ways. Also when you do it at a long range your best chance is to do a front kick (maegeri) with a small jump to gain some speed and cover distance, and when your opponent moves backwards to escape it, when your front kicking leg drops to the flor you transfer your weight on it and use it to turn for the second kick , the oshirogeri which should come from below and should move in a straight line (like a donkey kick (^_^) ). I've knocked many ppl with this kick. The effect it they just fly and land with no further desire to fight, that is if they can get up, if not then they get a good rest to rethink their actions. Also the oshirogeri is good for close range as well. To do it just pivit on your front leg and do it as described above. But for the long range you need the small jump, the front kick, or at least pretend to throw a front kick (lift the knee, and so on you should know how to feint), drop your front leg, pivit on it, and throw the oshirogeri. Ok i think you will get it eventually. Cheers and happy hopping bro 😎👍
@@youtubeaccount3704 FU bro. Weeb is your mom ok. Seriously you call weeb every guy who knows how to throw oshiro-mawashi? If that's the case you must have very very serious issues. Also i prefer the capoeira style of this spinning kick because it generates even more power, but for you i can make an exception by just rare naked choking you. Any way my little friend go learn some moves instead of trolling like a lame kid 😎👍
@@tigereye973 in the big, bad, cold and dark world, no one cares. So i don't care as well, and that is why i will say what i want, when i want, where i want. And dweebs like you can explode, GG WP b1thc 😎👍
You can get the Front Kick Focus course at hard2hurt.teachable.com/p/front-kick-focus
Definitely agree the front kick is perfectly lined n n would do serious psych damage cos running onto a teep n seeing their smirk. I just like switch kivk to cross combos so id want another place to do it.
The beauty of punishing your opponent for doing the “right” thing. Would love to see another video breaking down the different levels of striking
Watching Elite counter-punchers/ strikers do their thing is a piece of art. I see this a lot in boxing and Muay Thai
Imho, punishing em for using sound, proper technique is about the only reasonably reliable overall tactic versus a well-rounded opponent.
I think Mike said it better than I did, everything else tends to be “reactive” and reliant on their mistakes.
It was great how you labeled the 3 levels. Reacting, Predicting, And Forcing. Then Ignoring would fall somewhere in there, like not falling for what they're trying to do.
Ignoring is probably under predicting and above reacting tbh. You stopped reacting, but you aren't necessarily predicting anything. Just doing what you/your coach want without worrying about your opponent.
It's always fun to see how different people carry themselves, in practices. This guy is like super gentle and polite, even though it's clear he could go much harder (and you wouldn't mind). Wonderboy holds bad enough to let you practice some things you're working on, while still keeping pressure on you. Sensei Seth kicks you in the head, whenever he gets an opening.
Mean while my friends punch me in my stomache so hard that i wont be able to breathe for a few minutes '_'
Gentle pressure is underrated
As a Judoka, attack by drawing comes somewhat natural as soon as you get into mma, because it's the way you want to go to ensure that you don't spend too much energy.
But I never had a word for it, lmao
Judoka here, how so ? i mean applied in judo , what would the equivalent be ?
@@yordiquezada9706 yeah man I'm a low level judoka and just spam drop seoi nage lol. I have no idea what the guy was talking about
Exactly
@@yordiquezada9706 what do you mean applied in Judo?
in a Judo or mma match, attacking by drawing could be having your opponent get a certain grip on you (also called "grip baiting" by some people) so you can apply a certain technique that requires them to hold you like that.
It can also mean having them push or pull you so you can also apply a technique, this can be done in many ways, like pushing your opponent so he pushes back and then you do a Tai Otoshi (or any forward projection) but i do not know if that counts as attacking by drawing.
When there is striking involved (any Aikido person that is watching, please pay attention to this) like in mma, you can also bait them into over commiting to an attack so you can pull them to add to their strength and apply a technique. But how do you bait them into doing this? Easy enough, but you may do it differently when you are in the ring or in a real fight.
When trying it in the ring, you must keep yourself at long range at all times, if you opponent tries to get close and attack you, DO NOT JAB HIM (this could discourage them from getting in, and we want them to try!). What you should do is to instantly back down, move backwards, slip backwards, and move around them; may it be by pivoting, karate dashing, or even check hoocking (pivot + hook). This will make them want to get in fast to finally get a good hit on you, and when they do that, *you will be ready*
For a real fight, you can have more options as you can try and walk away at any point, which will make your opponent(s) way more aggressive because they will not want you to leave! You must also you voice to try and descalate the situation which will not work, but will have them know that you don't want to fight... *or at least that's what they'll think*
You must do the same as in the right, constantly move backwards, but watch your step! You don't want to trip and fall on the ground! If they are slowly walking towards you, then move backwards faster than them, this will make them move faster to catch up to you, if they over commit to an attack while doing this, you can pretty much choose what Judo/Aikido technique you want to use. If they keep moving slowly, you can probably scape, remember that this is assuming that you are not surrounder or cornered and trapped! If so, you must adapt/change your strategy completely!!! Hope this helps
in fighting game terminology this is called a frame trap:
where you leave enough of a gap in your offense that your opponent tries to take their turn on offense but in reality there was something else coming that they open them self up for.
Also sorta similar to a shimmy
This is so rad! I actually did the defensive ABD front kick in jkd sparring a couple days ago and it worked so well! I also use ABD with a long guard in Muay Thai to incentivize my training partners to throw certain punches I know I am good at defending/countering. This is such a cool video; thank you Mike and thank you Tyler for landing in a match for us all to see!
A real genuine plug at the end whilst saying you don't wanna plug it. Very smooth
its cool how lomachenko covers one side with high hand the other lowered to draw an attack to roll or slip and pivot to establish lead foot dominance.... basically drawing to one side
100% It's how elite strikers get to become elite. I fully appreciate this method with boxers. Where they come at you with the right distance; a specific punch and body movement where you as the defender or counter-puncher have no choice but to give in to instinct (all the pad training and muscle memory) which in turn gives the attacker what he wants from you, then boom! This is also true in other full contact striking arts/sport.
And Mike, that front kick could be trained further to target the liver
You had me at "we're gonna show you a front kick set up"
I’ve done attack by drawing against a “black belt” in Tang Soo Do. Not that I don’t respect all styles, but all he could do was throw front leg kicks. I taught him how to throw a punch. But besides the point. I would draw him in all the time and spinning back kick him in the stomach and stuff like that. He was also really easy to fight
That Korean style is focused on long distance kicks. Not really a sparring style. Big running, jumping kicks. What we would call "finishing moves".
I've always called it baiting the opponent. Sometimes I toss feints in there in the same category.
I also don't know if I agree with not learning by sparring. I've learn a lot about grappling by rolling with wrestlers as a JJJ guy, and grabbing a couple of rubber knives and a couple of Sikh buddies helped me out a lot more with my knife game than any class.
Your boy Tyler looked so happy to be participating. Could charm the paint off walls, that facial expression
When I was in wrestling, and I had a good idea that I was better than my opponent, I would stick my lead leg farther out, baiting them to try and shoot in on it, and I'd be sprawling back and circling behind in "one" swift movement getting my own takedown before they could do anything about it.
Exactly! It gives you a chance to practice something that you would never feel confident trying to practice against someone your skill level or better.
Icy Mike, phrasing Psychological Warfare as “fighting their mind”, is giving as eloquent/elegant a definition as I can think of (and I’m fucking BRILLIANT, lol).
something i like to do in fencing and sword and buckler fencing is to have my stance bladed with my sword hand to the rear and sword sticking out too (like half a Tpose). i pressure in and when they counter pressure and start walking i swing the svjør’edth in a downwards arc back up to give the stabbo. conversely i can lead with the sword side and have the sword hand resting by the left hip. using the same pressure strategy i then flick the sword coming either from the side or overhead
haha love it, didn't realize it to this technical level but I utilize this ALL the time in sparring. Now I have a good way to explain it. 🙂
They got the branding on point in these shots
Always glad to see content from you
When he said attack by drawing I thought he said attack thy groin😂😂😂
Great breakdown of attack by drawing. I also like the video planning breakdown at the end
This is basically jus “give and take” you give ‘em sumn and whatever they return you take (no not take as in taking the hit) it can be a slip and rip it can be a feint side step counter feint pull counter both hands down to bait then step back counter etc.
Best was to play by your own beat instead of theirs: Trust in your speed. Trust in your instincts. Dont be scared to get hit, just mitigate it. Learn how to spill your head gravity to make your body move faster. If you know how to spill your heads gravity in any direction and hop step you really can dodge almost anything even with ur hands down. Unless they are really good at chasing you down, but technically you should be able to beat someone of equal skill that is chasing too much.
The hardest thing to do in fighting is resist the flinch. When you are scared and dont know what is comming next so you stop looking and clam up, even for a split second can make you lose. Once you master the flinch you should be able to resist some incredible stuff.
Attack by drawing to land the front kick, I do it all the time in sparring/training, I also use the side kick in doing it
My absolute favourite stuff is to pressure on the ropes and try to get a big whiff like a hook or an overhand then pullback it on reaction and counter and keep repeating untill they get me or slip out of the ropes
Thanks Mike! Best wishes always going forward!
Maybe to super train this have 1 guy use 2' feet or 1' foot of pool noodle in each arm and the other guy can only use shoves and teeps and drags. If the pool noodle guy gets 5 hits its round over and see how many teeps, shoves, and drags the other guy can get in before hes tapped by the foam 5 times. Then when you take away the 2' extra feet he should be WAY quicker at capitalizing on a drawing technique. I bet if he gets a good shove in he can get 10+ points against the foams.
Can also modify it to where leg kicks are allowed but only teeps, shoves, and drags count for counter points, legkicks are just for setups.
I havent tested it just brainstorming
Beautiful! Having ABD imbedded into your combinations allows you to do it unconsciously. More JKD concepts in videos! 🙏
You talk clearly. Thank you :)
Good stuff, coach.
I have a wheel kick set up where I get them to circle towards my back side by throwing side kicks a little bit off towards my front side. They run right into the kick. Would you consider that an offensive attack by drawing technique?
Your new wall mats look great
JKD's 5 ways of attack are legit. Much more so than the "Jun Fan trapping" skills so many people are obsessed with.
Wow, Charlie Zelnof is so much more humble now
I appreciate the inclusion of the fight itself because that really does help to demonstrate it in a live setting, although I also have to say that I don't think I've ever seen a more telegraphed setup outside of like TV shows. Looked like someone trying and failing to execute some Mortal Kombat move.
Well i would guess you don't watch a lot of low level amateur kickboxing.
@@hard2hurt Probably. I was mostly just remarking on how far he had to go to draw the guy into swinging.
Attack by drawing is such a good name for it I've done something similar with a side kick and spinning stuff, don't know why I don't do it with the front kick it
I think if I see someone do a dramatic pause mid dodging im probably going to back up and start neutral invasion stepping forward little by little, try to draw out a leg kick and knee check their kick. Or pretend to be shocked by their pause and wait for them to try to blitz after a pause and do a flying knee at them.
love the new wall
A toe digging into the correct organ to send pain signals to the brain is my favorite kick to throw 💯 my friend and I were sparring and I hit him with it, not hard at all, yet we had to stop sparring for a little bit cause he went to go check if he pooped himself.
My boxing is restriced because of my left arm (its been injured since 2021 may and i DO can use it in a fight or sparring but i can easily dislocate my shoulder again) And im thinking about creating "new" style for myself, when i started training mma i was a fat ass and i was just using my size and range (im 188cm or 6'2) and i got long arms but i always wanted to be quick and like a dynamike i mean dynamite. Any tips? I was thinking about using my left leg as my arm if that makes sense, I'd be really active lead kicker (im left footed so its more comfortable) and i dont really know how to move in southpaw and also i dont wanna put injured arm as power arm
Nice video btw have a nice day
Woahh this is really cool, i do tkd tho so i mostly just kick and then if i rlly have to ill punch (their chest bc i not allowed to punch head ) when they expect kick
Hard2train... Hard2drill... Hard2hurt. You gotta hire me for branding or someshit. Great video man lol
hey hard2hurt ive played football my entire life and for the past 2 years have being training in kickboxing classes and have found that even though i am right footed and handed i throw kicks allot easier from south paw as well as have a better outside game but dont have the power although i struggle to kick hard from orthodox compared to south paw do you know why this could be i feel balance is worse from orthodox in terms of using my hips
I would do a round kick. When my foot landed back down my back would be facing them, then I would wait a few seconds. Sometimes they come charging in and you can give a strong side kick to the stomach that’ll lay them out
Shouting "attack by drawing!" (good advice though it was) from the corner is pretty funny. How can he succeed at attack by drawing if the opponent heard you call for the trick? Its like shouting at an apprentice magician to "hide the card up your sleeve!"
If I know that you know that I know that you know...
In any case, since you like the OODA loop concept, you really should check out Edward Luttwak's Strategy: The Logic of Peace and War. You'd like it. The key point is called the "strategic paradox" which says that in competition between two conscious combatants (not "conscious" in the sense of being awake, but in the sense that both entities know that they are in combat and are purposefully trying to figure the other out), the premium on doing the unexpected is incredibly high. So high that doing things that would otherwise be thought of as effective are not effective because they're expected and can therefore be easily countered, even by an opponent of lesser capability. Its basically a military historian with a PhD from the London School of Economics and Johns Hopkins explaining why Roy Jones Jr was great.
That's not how it works at lower levels. A) the other guy is likely not acting on his own corner, let alone his opponents.
B) abd is an obscure enough idea that i can guarantee no other beginner from a muay thai gym understands it.
Your thoughts are mostly logical, but there is very little logic involved in fighting especially at this level of competition.
@@hard2hurt I was mostly teasing. Of course, you're right.
@@hard2hurt indeed
Great video
Stylebender is great at this.
I would love to incorporate a lot of self defense techniques into my Muay Thai and my BJJ. It's a complete game changer when it comes to martial arts.💯
Dude is a black belt in vocabulary too
Have you ever seen gsp break down on how he beat bj penn 2 it’s a neat concept that also attacks his mind
I did that a lot in my fighting days. The big drawback is that when you up against experienced fighters they know it too lol.
My attack by Drawing is to step back - if the guy is angry/aggressive/dangerous he will step forward to attack. I will step back 3 times and on the 3rd time I will step back and while he is stepping forward and has his lead foot in the air and all his weight coming forward - I do a step back / step forward and with my lead foot in the air my fist is on his face with all my weight and all his weight coming forward - so he doesn't stand a chance. Punish his anger/aggression by out thinking him.
awesome way to run a striking class 🔥 where you guys located?
Hey Mike, what's your thoughts on self defense with your hands tied together (or handcuffed)
Look up Master Bakari "Shackle Hands".
He deals exactly with what you're talking about.
Now if you're talking about behind your back. Then you have to use your legs and deliver kicks.
@@complexblackness thanks, I'll look him up! 👍
It sounds like super fun content to make. I have no idea how you could justify spending time on it.
@@hard2hurt we've had some cases in my country of people getting handcuffed by home invaders. And in the movies human traffickers always bind your hands with either duct tape, zip ties, or handcuffs (depending on how professional they are)
Falling into the category of determining the rhythm of the fight, and knowing the opponent's tendencies... it requires Absolute Dominance in the first instance, and previous knowledge of the opponent, and/or a super good natural "read" of Kinetics in the second instance (assuming the opponent isn't telegraphing with their eyes). Bruce Lee was, as you know, deeply interested in Physiology; so it makes total sense he'd incorporate a "read" of the opponent's physiology, or Kinetics, into a fight-plan. Even more curious is the Wing Chun, or "INTERCEPTING" fist/kick/whatever quotient... In Combination With... the various feints used in Fencing.
Speed-training was crucial to Bruce, he did quite a bit of it... as did Tyson who recognized that "speed kills" ("PUT YOUR MOTHER IN A STRAIGHT JACKET, YOU PUNK ASS WHITE BOY!!!")
Simply put, these concepts- even all together- are very simple to understand. In practice however, they only come to fruition after understanding the theory behind them all, each, and through training gaining the ability to combine them all together into one harmonious "idea" through successful execution.
Now where Wing Chun comes into play here is that when you "catch" the opponent's attack with your arm, or leg... is your arm or leg going to shift 45 degrees upwards, downwards, or to the side in a single, exceedingly quick well-read motion? This is based on your personal training of techniques, knowing which one makes the most sense to follow through with, in combination with an actual physical reading in real-time (in the form of A Physical Contact).
In this video however, Lee's "intercepting fist" portion has been completely replaced with an "Intercepting Attack". The very notion of even intercepting the fist/kick has been completely removed from the equation of possibility.
If someone could establish Dominance 100% of the time, determining the rhythm, AND set the opponent up for an instant opening and a strike, Every Single Time... he'd be like Neo in The Matrix. It's good to know that, Theoretically, this can be done. However, in actuality, it's just not possible to succeed 100% of the time. Anyone, like Lee, who happens to venture off into this "nether" zone, my hat is off to you! It's very important to think about. But for most of us: we're not going to get there, or if we do, it's on total accident.
I've only had ONE instance, in which I feel I totally "entered the matrix", and it was during a Kendo session. Imagine you're a person forming circle, with 5 other people, and each sword-fighter is as good as you. (Heck, some can be better, and some can even be a little worse). On the word "go!", you all begin to fight, and the winner is the last one not hit. Most times, the person to the direct left or right of you is the immediate threat, and most often they are if not singled-out, are getting double-teamed (including you!) There was just ONE time, in my entire life where I ever stabbed and hit everyone around me in like 4.5 seconds, taking no damage myself. That is, no one else in that circle made even ONE hit on another opponent. I was THE ONLY ONE who did any hitting, and I won super quick. After it happened, not even I- especially me- could believe that it even happened. It was So Fucking Ridiculous, I'm convinced it will never happen again... not just in sword-fighting, but perhaps ever, in anything.
In a second I read the physiology of the group, their tendencies, the kinetics of it, the rate/speed (both mine and their own); executing incredibly instinctively based on training. There was "No Thought". I think this level of Perfection is what Bruce was after with training certain concepts like this. But me, I'm lucky to say it happened only ONCE in my life. Even if 100,000,000 other instances were to have occurred since... I don't think any of them would've carried that sort of "Perfection" with it. Everything was Perfect, Absolutely Perfect. Too Perfect to even be real... but it happened. It felt as if time had slowed, or I had complete control over it. It was instantaneous, and Ridiculously Insane.
The reactions of every sparring partner, and myself included was total disbelief that it happened. I even feel as if I "wasn't even there", or after it occurred, that it "just happened". I barely even "remember" each blow. It was as if I FELT more than I even SAW with my own two eyes.
This level of martial Excellency only passed through me pronouncedly ONCE in my life, and if it could happen ever again, may only occur ONCE again. But the thinking with the masters (especially Shaolin) is that it can happen Every Time. Or it must be aspired to. This was the way Bruce trained. This- his attitude, knowledge of training itself, and his actual dedication to training- is, undoubtedly why people herald his type to be of the greatest martial artists to ever exist. He aspired to, and TRAINED FOR this level of Absolute, Perfect Success. Unlike me, it was a fluke. For someone like Bruce though... it probably happened AT LEAST once a week.
I've never told anyone this story before (probably because of how stupid-ridiculous it sounds), and imagine some of you may also have a similar story to share, and I'd like to hear about it as well! But I think I've managed to make it very clear how much Bruce just wasn't your average martial arts practitioner... he was very concerned about getting to this point precisely, and trained for this state of Absolute Mastery. I just hope to have made it clear, so you can really appreciate him and his approach to martial arts even more.
He came from "the old school", where it was GUARANTEED; that if you put water on fire, the fire is GUARANTEED to go out. But if you fanned the fire with air, the fire was GUARANTEED to rise up into an inferno. This is the same level of intensity and fervour that was put into it by Miyamoto Musashi and you can see him talking about this in the form of elemental correspondences in his "Book of 5 Rings".
I just hope somebody got something beneficial from this long rant, lol
I like how Mike is sparring against his mutant clone.
Yooooo his clone actually has hair!!!
Icy Mike - what's your outro?
Whoever's Channel He Just Hijacked - what IS my outro?
I heard that sneaky God Hand reference in there.
Don't act like you don't like the ballbuster.
I have no idea what any of that is dude lol
@@hard2hurt The Tyson quotes you were jokingly reciting while defending feature a lot in the old beat-em-up game "Godhand" on the PS2.
God hand didn't come up with those lines, they're Mike Tyson quotes.
I'm from Huntington WV I like the Marshall university shirt he's wearing
Dope ass video. Id love to see different permutations of this principle especially for setting up knockouts.
I’ve been experimenting with drawing people in to add their momentum to my power shots but I’m struggling to land flush due to mismanaging the range.
I like the pop up front kick. Prove me wrong.
“Attacking their mind” are we being taught by a nen user?
very good
Was the start of the video a means of provoking attacks in the comments to counter? Is this what 4D chess looks like?
Yeah but I think I was a little too obvious... I failed.
Jeet Kunie Doo in action!! 🎬
Is it?
@@hard2hurt don't make me "everything is JKD" you
@@metrolinamartialarts hahahaha
@@metrolinamartialarts if everything is JKD then isn't everybody a JKD master?
@@hard2hurt no because most people aren't good at anything
I absolutely cannot stand the amount of poopoo garbage self defense adds that come up whenever I watch this kind of actually helpful content
You can also accomplish ABD by having the opponent 'chase' you.
Hard2draw
Never thought of that leg kick.
I'm a new subscriber and not sure if these tactics are for competition or defense. There's a lot here so I'm wondering.
Well on macro level, tactics are tactics. The overall principle can be applied to a chess match, a boxing match, a gunfight or nuclear war. This principle could be applied to a salary negotiation. It is a higher level concept though, so it may seem difficult to employ with less parameters. On a more digestible level, we are specifically talking about a front kick setup used in the context of a kickboxing match. A huge clue would be that we are talking about a kickboxing match and showing a clip from a kickboxing match. It is the simplest to employ in contexts where you have time and information to determine tendencies and habits of your opponent and parameters that limit the number of surprises.
@@hard2hurt Yeah, I can see that...reason I asked is my outlook is about threats and taking them to non functional.
So.. baiting and punishing? Lol. Well that's the term for fighting games. Same core concepts. Either getting them to waste resources or open up for planned counters and combos.
As I was typing this he showed off a wall combo too.
Lmao. Perfect.
Cod you make the kick a roundhouse?
There are some particulars that make the front kick work well in this case, but this can be done with any attack.
Be nice to your partners drilling this XD.
How long in advance do you make these videos because I know that you HAVE hit someone with that last move. It was me!
Lol did i? From far away? Awesome! Mission accomplished! Thank you for your service!
@@hard2hurt you absolutely did I'll DM you the clip later haha
@@Ventus_the_Heathen that's funny i really felt like i've never actually landed this
My first attack is to draw a fake moustache on opponents face.
Usually gets them to overcommit 👊
'tis good
Ya
"I'm basically the same thing as Bruce Lee."
An overrated actor who everyone thinks he can do no wrong despite him telling people that he's not perfect and has a crazy cult following that I'm part of? Well that's a surprise, I didn't know you were an actor. *sips tea*
Also instructions unclear, drew Mickey Mouse, got punched in the face.
Have you not seen my films?
I was promised the highest form of combat and yet I don't see any aikido, very sus
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Hope you have a Real sparring Like jeff chan
Butt when attack but?
master ken would like to have a word with you
Tyler looks like Charlie Zelenoff.
lol now I can't unsee it
Ooou yeah you can't make a video without hopping around my friend. Let me give you some advice for this cute little kick that you failed at the end. It's called oshirogeri and your knee is supposed to point the flor as well as you foot, not point side ways. Also when you do it at a long range your best chance is to do a front kick (maegeri) with a small jump to gain some speed and cover distance, and when your opponent moves backwards to escape it, when your front kicking leg drops to the flor you transfer your weight on it and use it to turn for the second kick , the oshirogeri which should come from below and should move in a straight line (like a donkey kick (^_^) ). I've knocked many ppl with this kick. The effect it they just fly and land with no further desire to fight, that is if they can get up, if not then they get a good rest to rethink their actions. Also the oshirogeri is good for close range as well. To do it just pivit on your front leg and do it as described above. But for the long range you need the small jump, the front kick, or at least pretend to throw a front kick (lift the knee, and so on you should know how to feint), drop your front leg, pivit on it, and throw the oshirogeri. Ok i think you will get it eventually. Cheers and happy hopping bro 😎👍
Lol ok weeb
@@youtubeaccount3704 FU bro. Weeb is your mom ok. Seriously you call weeb every guy who knows how to throw oshiro-mawashi? If that's the case you must have very very serious issues. Also i prefer the capoeira style of this spinning kick because it generates even more power, but for you i can make an exception by just rare naked choking you. Any way my little friend go learn some moves instead of trolling like a lame kid 😎👍
Imagine writing all of that just to be ignored 😂
@@tigereye973 in the big, bad, cold and dark world, no one cares. So i don't care as well, and that is why i will say what i want, when i want, where i want. And dweebs like you can explode, GG WP b1thc 😎👍
Oh look, a hard to hurt video. Wonder what this one is about? "SO IM BASICALY THE SAME THING AS BRUCE LEE...."
....yup. business as usual.
I didn't even get any bites. I'm losing my touch.
Look man, that ammo and those classes don't pay for themselves.
Attack by draw, broken rhythm hmmmmmmm smells like JKD. Now you need a video on progressive indirect attack.
Icy Mike slowly starting to sound like that one old man who teaches karate or some tradional martial artist. Where he just overly complicate things
bad guy???!!??
ignoring goes at the top and bottom of the levels of fighting
And sometimes the middle too.
It's the cytoplasm of fighting
Huh. So you just recreated Aikido.
No, no.. This works.
801st
Nope. Not d highest.
Yeah your just like Bruce Lee! Exempt you have actually had fights before . 🤣🤣🤣
I see you enjoy a good pot stir as well!
Baiting
proactive>reactive.first mover advantage else u wouldnt have intent to move at all. action>none |sum